Hmmm. I just find it a little odd that someone who's after civet would choose to ignore fragrances marketed at women when it seems apparent this particular group has the significantly greater number of civet-driven fragrances. I thought civet-lovers would hunt down civet wherever it may be found... I guess comfort zones vary with the individual... Is there any particular women's fragrance with civet that is too feminine for a guy to pull off?? I wear Patou 1000 sometimes...
