Originally Posted by Mudassir
1) Burling Coat Factory bulding already exists, and is more than likely being bought following the normal capitalistic processes. It is not a new building on some memorial site.That is a much more sensitive issue, and that is why any kind of structure is still missing from ground zero after 9 years.
2)Vast majority of muslims, over the centuries have been apolitical, and perhaps even anti-political where peaceful society has been the end-all and be-all and not some idealistic worldview.
3)This kind of action has much less to do with practicing religion in a normal manner, and a whole lot more with politics/making statements and what not. I don't think it would find much creedence/support with a vast majority of American Muslims simply because most of us want to live in our own world away from the spotlight. Feeling a sense of belonging culturally might not be that high up on the list for most of us as over 95% of American Muslims could count themselves as Immigrants within the last 40-50 years.
4) The organization purportedly going for this project has just as much to do with mainstream Islam as the fanatics, and both devour attention - as opposed to mainstream muslims.
5) We don't live in a perfect world, and never will. Any romantic view of some specific organized religion's past or present is half as far from the truth as that of "organized" opposition to organized religion. Get over the fact that not being a part of an organzied religion somehow makes a society more tolerant or humane. The excesses done by all the organized religions combined throughout history could come nowhere to the excesses committed by breaking away from organized religion that happened after Rennaisance.
and those excesses continue to this day...
Thank you for your observations sir, I wish you all the freedom in the world to live in your own way. I share you frustration as to why that site stands empty nigh a near decade later.
Even if I had the right to build a cathedral in the middle of Mecca, I would never do so out of respect for those that abide there...
This is an out and out provocation.
"To deny American Muslims their freedoms in their country because you consider their place of worship distasteful is to trample on the very free speech you hold dear. Being less tolerant in the US isn't going to make - for example - Saudi Arabia more tolerant, it will simply make the US a worse place to be for everyone."
This is an example of what Richard Feynman so famously referred to when he said "Keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out"
No one is trying to deny "them" their freedoms. They can build their mosque. New York is full of them. THey can speak freely as they like. As far as building or converting a space for use, that is neither a free speech or even a freedom of religion issue. That's a zoning and land use issue.
and as far as that site?
show some respect for others and some self-respect...
This goes over about as well as the Westboro Baptist Church Protesting American Soldier's Funerals...