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post #1 of 228
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New game inspired by

http://forum.healingdao.com/general/message/11122%5C

(My favorite is question # 17
I really like it when Mathematics and Kundalini combine to produce such gems.)

So, I thought we could create our own quiz on Eastern Mysticism/String Theory/New Age, etc.
However there really must be a correct answer. Post the right reply, then post your own multiple choice question.

Want to play?

I'll start the ball rolling:

Ram Dass is:

1. The author of " Plan for Tomorrow Before It's Too Late. "
2. The brother of Haagen Dass, a.k.a. The ice cream guru.
3. Some dude named Rick Alpert who hung out with Timothy Leary.
4. Green Lantern.


Cheers,

Mario
post #2 of 228
Hey Mario, this sounds terrific. I don't get here as much lately (off-topic). I'll get back to this in a little while. Anything in this line interests me.
Cheers, ody
post #3 of 228
I will take Rick Alpert Trivia for $200 Alex

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The above picture was created by a(n):

1. East Indian Jainist

2. Contemporary Filipino artist

3. Balinese Mystic

4. 6th Century Chinese Chan Master

5. None of the above
post #4 of 228
Maharishi is:

A. A Fusion cuisine fish and Japanese mushroom dish.
B. A major Hindu guru who reached prominence in the 1960s and hugely inspired The Beatles.
C. A crazy old man who is holed up in the Swiss Alps and tears down 13th century Catholic monasteries and can only walk on rose petals.
D. All of the above.

Lemuria is:

A. A mythical civilisation of light-workers that was rumored to co-exist with more empirical, warlike Atlantis.
B. A rare, highly malignant, gum cancer, identifiable by its white, chalky appearance.
C. The original name, given by the French, for Madagascar.
D. None of the above.
post #5 of 228
This is HILARIOUS!
post #6 of 228
Indigo Children are:

  1. Unruly brats whose parents are in denial.
  2. Miniaturized clones of Amy Ray and Emily Saliers.
  3. What blue babies grow up to be.
  4. Descendents of Roy G. Biv's sixth son.
post #7 of 228
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Originally Posted by Hillaire View Post

Maharishi is:

A. A Fusion cuisine fish and Japanese mushroom dish.
B. A major Hindu guru who reached prominence in the 1960s and hugely inspired The Beatles.
C. A crazy old man who is holed up in the Swiss Alps and tears down 13th century Catholic monasteries and can only walk on rose petals.
D. All of the above.

Lemuria is:

A. A mythical civilisation of light-workers that was rumored to co-exist with more empirical, warlike Atlantis.
B. A rare, highly malignant, gum cancer, identifiable by its white, chalky appearance.
C. The original name, given by the French, for Madagascar.
D. None of the above.

I'll take B for Maharishi and A for Lemuria; though rumors that Creed was awarded an exclusive contract to supply fragrance for The Royal House of Lemuria are untrue.

(It was about 5,000 years later in Atlantis)

I'm stumped by kbe's quetion.
He did get the answer to mine right.

It looks as if it's by a Chinese Chan master but it feels too modern, so I'll have to pass on that one, Boddhidharma forgive me. Someone had better answer it, though--before Gort goes ballistic ( see the bottom of his post!) I shall not post again until this is done AND someone else takes a crack at "Indigo Children. "

Klaatu barada nikto,

Mario
post #8 of 228
For Haunani's post, I think the answer is 3. It is an interesting phenomenon.

Wabi-sabi is:
A. The potent green paste served with sushi
B. The vigorous massage you get at a Japanese steam-bath
C. The outlook of finding beauty in impermanence and imperfection
D. The slightly ill feeling you get when you've just swallowed a less-than-fresh sea urchin sushi.

& for kbe's post... I don't know, but the Chan master answer seems right to me.
post #9 of 228
You KNOW I had to fetch up at ANY thread with ANY derivative/word "Tao" in it (I am often temporarily distracted by posts with the frag Tam Dao....". Or any thread Mario starts.....

So.

We know the answer to HIS poser is - like Ken sez - Herb, um RICK Alpert. (And - not to quibble - Ram Dass is/was/are a Buddhist not a Taoist. And of course you know that.)

But none of Haunani's choices seem to be the correct one to this enlightened beach bum. And I give up on the painting.

Ah well.

Huang Di is:

a) A well-endowed DJ popular in Nolita.
b) An exotic stringed instrument popular in Hunan Province.
c) The Yellow Emperor popular in Chinese Mythology.
d) Chinese for the yellow butterfly, the popular Cloudless Sulphur


P.S. For Ody....it's C.
post #10 of 228
The answer to my multiple choice offering is No.5 'None of the above'. Mario was hot on the trail in noting it seemed more contemporary than a '6th Century Chinese Chan Master'.

click the below link for a good discussion of the brush drawing and the answer to who dunnit.

http://www.boston.com/ae/theater_art...itual_beliefs/

Hey Mario! Any rules here? OK to research online etc.? If not I am going to make up some answer doozies to those questions I don't know.

Haunani I am picking your No. 1 answer 'Unruly brats whose parents are in denial.'
post #11 of 228
Mr. K wins for Indigo Children, with "Unruly brats whose parents are in denial." I suppose that my definition was overly editorial.;-)
post #12 of 228
For Taolady's Huang Di, I pick "c) The Yellow Emperor popular in Chinese Mythology", but the well-endowed DJ was delightfully distracting. ;-)
post #13 of 228
You guys are a hoot! That's all I have to contribute. I wish I had a popcorn-eating smilie.
post #14 of 228
These are so great! I love the DJ!

Deeksha is:

A. A light-and-love-giving ritual, wherein the practitioner 'lays hands' on the recipient in order to bring him/her closer to his/her 'true purpose' and enlightenment
B. A fame-device used by popular -- and increasingly violent -- Indian 'love'-cult leaders' Bhagavan and Ama', to attract more mindless followers and sustain their filthy wealth.
C. Essentially crown-chakra Reiki.
D. A cucumber, caraway and yoghurt preparation.
E. B. & C. only.
post #15 of 228
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Huang Di is:

a) A well-endowed DJ popular in Nolita.

No, that was an Italian/American Shaolin master who became a legendary bouncer in New York.
Although he briefly made a living as a DJ, he went on to found his own system of Kung-Fu based on the ancient Tiger/Crane style: Hung-Gar.

However, he re-named it Hung Far Low for reasons I'd rather not go into . . .


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Originally Posted by kbe View Post


Hey Mario! Any rules here? OK to research online etc.? If not I am going to make up some answer doozies to those questions I don't know.

Here's two that no one can find in Wikipedia, and spoil the fun. So open your third eye!

#!. Why do Zen Monks wear black robes?

A. To get to the other side.
B. It's a Japanese thing. Though sometimes they opt for brown--go figure.
C. It's very slimming
D. Not to be confused with The Dalai Lama, or other Tibetan masters, who lean towards red and gold.
E. Who is it that is asking the question?
F. All of the above.

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Originally Posted by Hillaire View Post


Deeksha is:

A. A light-and-love-giving ritual, wherein the practitioner 'lays hands' on the recipient in order to bring him/her closer to his/her 'true purpose' and enlightenment
B. A fame-device used by popular -- and increasingly violent -- Indian 'love'-cult leaders' Bhagavan and Ama', to attract more mindless followers and sustain their filthy wealth.
C. Essentially crown-chakra Reiki.
D. A cucumber, caraway and yoghurt preparation.
E. B. & C. only.

Hm . . .I'll take A and B The right answer is probably E but I've forgotten my mantra.
There is an interesting parallel to Christianity in a guru " Taking on the karma " (or sins?) of his student. Not to mention Pentecostals, being "Slayed in (The Holy) Spirit "--- but that's another story.

OK. Gang, here's another you won't find in Wiki:

#2 What is the lineage/founder of India's "Godmen"


Imagine going to an open air auditorium to hear a holy man.
The stage is surrounded by large stemmed flowers.
As The Guru enters, the flowers all bow to him for a few seconds in recognition of his powers!!

Cool, huh?

According to "The Sorcerer's Apprentice " A delightfully funny travelogue by Tahir Shah.
India has about 500 "Godmen" in the big leagues. Some are consulted by politicians, rather as if the PM of Israel would consult Uri Geller before making any important decision.
After considerable research, Mr. Shah is convinced that their founder and their lineage comes from:

A. Krishna.
B. Helena Petrovna Blavatsky.
C. Jiddu Krishnamurti
D. Erich Weiss
E. Ascetic Sadhus

Cheers,

Mario
post #16 of 228
Hmmm... I will guess "B" for "Why do Zen monks wear black robes?", but I think all the answers are swell. :-)

Another challenge:

YANTRA is

  1. A matchmaker for the new age (a perfect job for the aging hippie!)
  2. Worship involving external objects, designs, or symbols.
  3. Enlightenment through stir-frying.
  4. One or more of the above.
post #17 of 228
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Originally Posted by Haunani View Post

Hmmm... I will guess "B" for "Why do Zen monks wear black robes?", but I think all the answers are swell. :-)

You are corrrect. And as kbe would say, hot on the trail as all the answers are indeed swell, and I could not disagree with F "all of the above. "

However as to #2 What is the lineage/founder of India's "Godmen"

(According to author Tahir Shah)

I fear I may have made it way too difficult. Here's a hint: THE FOUNDER was better known by another name---No, it wasn't Odo from Deep Space Nine--

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As to Haunani's
Another challenge:

YANTRA is

  1. A matchmaker for the new age (a perfect job for the aging hippie!)
  2. Worship involving external objects, designs, or symbols.
  3. Enlightenment through stir-frying.
  4. One or more of the above.


I know this one, it's B. Some people go to pieces over mandalas or cathedrals, or Tibetan prayer wheels, which is OK by me. However, I would worry if their object of veneration was a machete or an AK-47.

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Meanwhile, as you ponder the hint I gave re India's " Godmen" here's another one--which I hope will be far easier:

In the Soto Zen school, there is a tendency to strive for 'gradual enlightenment' rather like a ripe apple "suddenly" falling from an apple tree.

The prescribed method of meditating in the Soto Zen Set, as taught by most 21st century masters is:

A. Sit cross legged, stare at a wall with eyelids half closed, and observe/ manifest your True Mind.
B. Drive a car fast while your significant other is screaming insults at you, yet remain completely calm.
C. Sit in a comfy chair and watch any film by Andrei Tarkovsky twice in a row, and remain wide awake.
D. Sit and and watch paint dry. Do NOT let your mind wander.

(This includes making comparisons to Tarkovsky films )

E. Sit, stand, or lie down but do NOT think of a pink unicorn for at least an hour. If you do, start over.
F. Lie down and look at the shapes of clouds; let your mind wonder and open yourself to creative ideas.
G. Sit under a freezing cold waterfall and recite from Dogen's "Shobogenzo. "

Gassho,

Mario
post #18 of 228
The prescribed method of meditating in the Soto Zen Set, as taught by most 21st century masters is:

A. Sit cross legged, stare at a wall with eyelids half closed, and observe/ manifest your True Mind.

This one took a little research. It appears that the Soto folks don't use objects or images in their meditations.

Yes?

And, thanks to you, Mario, I will have images of pink unicorns dancing in my head for the rest of the day!
post #19 of 228
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Originally Posted by Haunani View Post

The prescribed method of meditating in the Soto Zen Set, as taught by most 21st century masters is:

A. Sit cross legged, stare at a wall with eyelids half closed, and observe/ manifest your True Mind.

This one took a little research. It appears that the Soto folks don't use objects or images in their meditations.

Yes?

a comment on Soto meditation:



Indirectly referencing his idea of the value of sitting Zazen (silent meditation), Dōgen Zenji, credited founder of the Sōtō sect in Japan in the 13th Century, wrote this:

Scarecrow in the hillock
Paddy field
How unaware! How useful!
post #20 of 228
I know that we are all busy researching Mario's GODMEN question, but here's an easier one for the meantime:

FINDHORN is:

  1. Another name for Uisge Eireann, one of the longest rivers in Scotland.
  2. A simple megaphone-like device used by primitive Scottish sheepherders.
  3. The location of an early New Age community complete with UFO landing strip.
  4. A decorative button crafted of bone and used to secure kilts.
  5. Both 1 and 3
  6. Both 2 and 4
post #21 of 228
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Originally Posted by Mario Justiniani View Post

YANTRA is:


  1. A matchmaker for the new age (a perfect job for the aging hippie!)
  2. Worship involving external objects, designs, or symbols.
  3. Enlightenment through stir-frying.
  4. One or more of the above.

I know this one, it's B.

Mario

???????????

I'll take C - "The location of an early New Age community complete with UFO landing strip." for Findhorn....
post #22 of 228
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Originally Posted by TaoLady View Post

...I'll take C - "The location of an early New Age community complete with UFO landing strip." for Findhorn....

This is correct, of course. It is also the longest river in Scotland (who knew), so the answer is A and C.
post #23 of 228
'Kannon' is:

A. An all-girl Japanese thrash-metal revival band, popular on Youtube, and throughout Western Europe.
B. The most important Bodhisattva in Zen Japanese Buddhism.
C. A WW II German U-boat torpedo-launcher patent.
D. The very same 'figure' as the Indian Bodhisattva Avalokishteshvara and the female, Chinese Bodhisattva Kuanyin; the name and the gender changed as the Buddhist tradition traveled Eastward along the 'Silk Road'.
E. Both B. and D.
post #24 of 228
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Originally Posted by Haunani View Post

This is correct, of course. It is also the longest river in Scotland (who knew), so the answer is A and C.

A good friend alerted me with the news that it ISN'T the longest. My source actually says "one of the longest rivers in Scotland." Sorry, guys and gals. (insert chagrined-but-not-THAT-sorry smiley)

Edit: Well, um, I'm going to take a wild stab at Hillaire's and pick "E", though I love "A". :-)
post #25 of 228
Glad you guys ignored me bein' snotty. (Picking on Mario for choosing a letter option from a list of numbers.)

So here's a RULLY easy one:

Wushu is:


  1. Last item on a Chinese menu with pork or beef options.
  2. Followed by the words "were here", cliche travel postcard message.
  3. Enthusiastic outcry at a concert or sporting event
  4. A martial art form
  5. A period in Chinese History
post #26 of 228
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Originally Posted by Hillaire View Post

'Kannon' is:

A. An all-girl Japanese thrash-metal revival band, popular on Youtube, and throughout Western Europe.
B. The most important Bodhisattva in Zen Japanese Buddhism.
C. A WW II German U-boat torpedo-launcher patent.
D. The very same 'figure' as the Indian Bodhisattva Avalokishteshvara and the female, Chinese Bodhisattva Kuanyin; the name and the gender changed as the Buddhist tradition traveled Eastward along the 'Silk Road'.
E. Both B. and D.

I am going with your answer 'E' Hillaire, as both your 'B' and 'D' seem right to me
post #27 of 228
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Originally Posted by Mario Justiniani View Post

However as to #2 What is the lineage/founder of India's "Godmen"

(According to author Tahir Shah)

I fear I may have made it way too difficult. Here's a hint: THE FOUNDER was better known by another name---No, it wasn't Odo from Deep Space Nine--

Well, I'm going to say that since these 'Godmen' do unusal acts rather like magic tricks, their 'founder' is Eric Weiss, aka Harry Houdini. 'Founder' in a loose sense, perhaps?

"Repulse the monkey" is:
a. The latest dance craze in the discos of Goa
b. One of the moves in Tai Chi
c. A potent cocktail favored during the Raj period
d. An idiom for "when will these western wannabees leave the ashram?"
post #28 of 228
I am going to go with D., Odysseum! Okay, B. Nice one!

A 'Sun Dance' is:

A. A prismatic spiral fashioned of Crystal or plexiglas, favored by 'hippies' and 'New Agers', which 'throws' dancing rainbows it as twirls delightfully in the sun light.
B. The official name given to the very rapid and urgent, almost jumping, 'dance-like' motion the common Southwestern rattlesnake makes, when it moves across scorching desert.
C. Is a ritual bravery rite of passage for males of several Native American Plains Tribes, wherein wood skewers are driven though the chest or arm flesh, after which the subject is strung up by the aforementioned skewers until the flesh is torn through and he finally falls to the ground.
D. A rockin' 'Indie' film festival that is held in ultra-luxurious Cannes, France each year.
post #29 of 228
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Wait a minute. No one answered Toalady's Wushu question yet!

*And yes, ody it was Erich Weiss aka Harry Houdini. The book in question tells you how they fix it for real flowers to 'bow' when The Holy Man (?) enters the auditorium. Now that the cat's out of the bag, Tahir Shah got the lunatic idea after graduating from university in The U.K., to go to India and find the great Feroze, a master illusionist--and become his apprentice. It turned out many of 'The Godmen ' were former students. It's a great read *


The purist's answer is none of the above, or it would be to a saffron robed Shaolin monk (yep they're still around ) or to full contact 5 times European champion and Shaolin stylist, and a nice guy from what I hear, Eshan Shafiq----Google him for some amazing bouts.
However I will answer C--er--I mean 4. A showy martial art taught throughout China, esp at The Peking Opera. What the hell, without Wushu we wouldn't have Jackie Chan movies.

Cheers,

Mario

P.S. I like Hillaire's writing style. No wonder none of my director friends make it to Sundance; they're stuck at Cannes asking about awards in bad French!
post #30 of 228
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P.S. I like Hillaire's writing style. No wonder none of my director friends make it to Sundance; they're stuck at Cannes asking about awards in bad French!

Whoops! Well, I did it on purpose, ummm.. to make you know it was the wrong answer.
post #31 of 228
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Whoops! Well, I did it on purpose, ummm.. to make you know it was the wrong answer.

It was?

OK then I'll take C.
Though The Ghost Dance is the one that really rocks!

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Which one of these great scientists was NOT considered a Mystical Crackpot by detractors?
Or for that matter, by friends?

( Note that I'm not listing scientists who were simply religious or mildly eccentric, so Francis Bacon is not a candidate, despite his works on theology and unproven rumors of membership in occult societies, nor George Washington Carver, even if he did like to talk to flowers; nor the devout theoretical physicist and Nobel laureate, Abdus Salam)

Here we go:

A. Pythagoras-- (Yeah, the guy with the hypotenuse)
B. Paracelsus
C. Sir Isaac Newton
D. Leonardo da Vinci
E. Emanuel Swedenborg
F. Wilhelm Reich
G. Carl Gustav Jung
H. Nikola Tesla


Cheers,

Mario
post #32 of 228
Wow, that is an interesting question, Mario. Well I'm pretty sure that Freud thought Jung was a little "out there", and Swedenborg definitely pushed ze envelope, & Newton pushing needles into his eyeballs to test his optic nerves... I dunno. Mind you, William Blake thought Newton only had the "single vision" so maybe he wasn't mystical enough. Pythagoras, Paracelsus, probably qualify. I'm gonna go with Da Vinci just because that seems counter-intuitive.

"Thunder, Perfect Mind" refers to:
A. The 'quiet storm' technique which is an off-shoot of primal scream therapy.
B. A Harley-Davidson ridin' branch of Mensa
C. An esoteric Gnostic text found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt
D. The stages following a severe dietary regime of beans and legumes.
post #33 of 228
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"Thunder, Perfect Mind" refers to:
A. The 'quiet storm' technique which is an off-shoot of primal scream therapy.
B. A Harley-Davidson ridin' branch of Mensa
C. An esoteric Gnostic text found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt
D. The stages following a severe dietary regime of beans and legumes.

I will go with C. Ody although a HD/Mensa link would have been a sweet one.

The first time I read it this passage from "Thunder, Perfect Mind" stopped me dead in my tracks:

"But whenever you hide yourselves,
I myself will appear.
For whenever you appear,
I myself will hide from you."

It reminded me instantly of a famous section of text from Dogen's Genjokoan (13th Century C.E.):

"..To study the Way is to study the self. To study the self is to forget the self. To forget the self is to be enlightened by all things of the universe..."
post #34 of 228
That is a truly excellent parallel, kbe.
post #35 of 228
Krishnamurti:

A. Is a yogic devotional practice to honor Lord Krishna, wherein butter is drizzled over a representation of Him.
B. Was the name of a Indian boy sex slave, picked up on a trip to India by Annie Bessant and her Theosophical consortium; she was renowned as one of the esteemed members of Rupolph Steiner's collaborative.
C. Translates from Hindu to literally mean "black Lord", and refers to the evil aspect of Lord Krishna (sometimes represented as an actual, separate and threatening entity) that He must overcome to maintain His moral balance.
D. Was a renowned philosopher and ecumenical spiritual guru, whose eloquent and academic style opened doors for spiritual discussion in the academy.
E. Both B and D
post #36 of 228
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Krishnamurti:

A. Is a yogic devotional practice to honor Lord Krishna, wherein butter is drizzled over a representation of Him.
B. Was the name of a Indian boy sex slave, picked up on a trip to India by Annie Bessant and her Theosophical consortium; she was renowned as one of the esteemed members of Rupolph Steiner's collaborative.
C. Translates from Hindu to literally mean "black Lord", and refers to the evil aspect of Lord Krishna (sometimes represented as an actual, separate and threatening entity) that He must overcome to maintain His moral balance.
D. Was a renowned philosopher and ecumenical spiritual guru, whose eloquent and academic style opened doors for spiritual discussion in the academy.
E. Both B and D

I am going with only D. Hillaire, although it is tempting to include B. But I cannot recall or find any credible evidence of Krishnamurti being a pre-puberty sex slave (Theosophist Charles Leadbeater was an accused molester of young boys though and definitely around young Krishnamurti) or a direct link between Annie Beset and Rudolf Steiner
post #37 of 228
As a palate cleanser, I offer the immortal words of the Zen Master, Ogden Nash:

The one-l lama, he is a priest
The two-l llama, he is a beast
And I will bet a silk pyjama
There's no such thing as a three-l lllama

I hope Mr. Mario enlightens us as to the answer to his last question... or maybe no one has guessed it yet.
post #38 of 228
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double vision--i mean double post. Sorry
post #39 of 228
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No, ody you have! Go to the head of the class.

The only other possible candidate besides Leonardo would be Tesla who, despite his OCD, and his belief he was receiving messages from Venus or Mars; and that he thought his inventions could be used to talk with other planets, did not go for mysticism; unless we use that word broadly and apply it to Tesla's 'Field Theories' in which he "debunked " Einstein:

" I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view. "

At 81 he claimed he had completed a dynamic theory of gravity and solved all the problems ( left by Einstein?) but Tesla died before publishing it. Or perhaps it was spirited away by the government along with his 'death ray' or teleforce. weapon which he claimed " could bring down a fleet of 10,000 enemy airplanes at a distance of 200 miles . . . and will cause armies to drop dead in their tracks. " I better not write about this more lest black helicopters start circling overhead.----Suffice it to say Tesla made Edison look like a dimwit by comparison. An amazing man.

Pythagoras?
Google or have fun and watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlBA9_3zj9w

Paracelsus believed in astrology, but then so did a lot of scientists in the 15th century; however coming up with a " Magical Alphabet" and making magical talismans crosses the line.

Sir Isaac Newton far from his image as a total 'rationalist' was a also an occultist who--Oh, here's PBS:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIJlg...next=1&index=9

Swedenborg
First met God in a tavern; then had dreams and visions to proclaim The Truth. Freaked out The Queen of Sweden by giving her messages only known to her dead brother. He's probably better known these days as a founder of a church than as a brilliant scientist in the fields of chemistry, mathematics, metallurgy--and inventions.

Wilhelm Reich Took Freud's Libido to the nth degree. Orgasms produce the building blocks of the universe and control weather. The orgone energy is blue. (could it be love?) If you haven't read him he'll sound at times like Yoda talking of The Force. Unfortunately he felt persecuted by the government. (The FDA wanted him to stop selling machines which he claimed cured cancer or dissipated clouds) Like a latter day Galileo he died in prison for his beliefs.

C.G. Jung Also believed in astrology, which was not cool with 20th century science--unlike the century of Paracelsus---Sometimes as a last resort he would send a patient to get his horoscope done so he could finally understand him. " Magical " coincidences frequently occurred to him which formed the basis of his Theory of Synchronicity He also had visions or, as he preferred to refer to them, " Confrontations with the Unconscious." He preached, and famously published--" Seven Sermons To The Dead "

. .
Around five o'clock in the afternoon on Sunday the front doorbell began ringing frantically...but there was no one in sight. I was sitting near the doorbell, and not only heard it but saw it moving. We all simply stared at one another. The atmosphere was thick, believe me!

Then I knew that something had to happen. The whole house was filled as if there were a crowd present, crammed full of spirits. They were packed deep right up to the door, and the air was so thick it was scarcely possible to breathe. As for myself, I was all a-quiver with the question: "For God's sake, what in the world is this?" Then they cried out in chorus, "We have come back from Jerusalem where we found not what we sought"
--That is the beginning of the Septem Sermones. (Memories, Dreams, Reflections, p190-1)


Needless to say, I'm also rather fond of Reich and Jung In fact, all these gentlemen were quite colorful geniuses.

Cheers,

Mario.
post #40 of 228
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I am going with only D. Hillaire, although it is tempting to include B. But I cannot recall or find any credible evidence of Krishnamurti being a pre-puberty sex slave (Theosophist Charles Leadbeater was an accused molester of young boys though and definitely around young Krishnamurti) or a direct link between Annie Beset and Rudolf Steiner



She (Besant [I misspelled it!]) was a proponent of Steiner and also appointed him to the head of her Esoteric Theosophical Society in the early part of his career. They were colleagues. That was TRUE!

While Jiddhu Krishnamurti was not likely pre-pubescent, he was only thirteen (a boy) when Besant "adopted" him, and returned with him to Europe.

It was not until after his death that rumors of her 'involvement' with Krishnamurti as well as the rather indecent sexual practices of her group became a hot topic.

The spurious answer was E. But D was more correct.
post #41 of 228
Sheesh! I'm going to have to sit down and really READ this thread. Fascinating stuff!
post #42 of 228
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Sheesh! I'm going to have to sit down and really READ this thread. Fascinating stuff!

I agree. This is an excellent thread. Thanks Mario, for starting it; and to all the contributors so far.
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I agree. This is an excellent thread. Thanks Mario, for starting it; and to all the contributors so far.

You're welcome! And Hillaire has brought back a memory that may indicate E is not all that spurious.

Early 1970's talking with my first live-in gf. She asked about an article I was reading on Jiddhu Krishnamurti. I forget if it was by him or by Peter Fonda who bumped into JK at the beach and became friends.

* I love California*

Anyway I quoted something JK said which sounded 'spiritual' but rather odd to me:

" I am celibate because every part of my body is vibrant with love. "

She didn't miss a beat: " Oh. You mean he's impotent? "

If the allegations that Besant sexually abused her 'adopted son' are true, it wold explain quite a bit.

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Around this time I made the acquaintance of one of these grandmotherly ritual witches cosmic whatever ( It's California, folks) who was always seeing white auras around everything, esp things that were utter crap.

However, she had had been present in 1930 when, at a mass rally of Theosophists, Krishnamuti--The New World Teacher and, according to Besant, the re-incarnation of Jesus and
--well Jesus knows who else--
Went up to the podium and politely told them to, as we would say these days, " To get a life. "

This despite many in the audience, including "granny" having seen The Holy Spirit descend upon him.
I asked her the obvious question: Why would he deny his divinity if he was The One, and break with Theosophy and, for that matter any other form of organized religion for the rest of his life?

She replied that-- well, he could have been The Christ had he proclaimed himself that day, but his courage failed him so " He didn't make the grade. "

**************************************

This story has no sequel, unless Life of Bryan based a few scenes on this e.g; "Only the true Messiah denies his Divinity."

Cheers,

Mario
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Lan Caihe is

A. A famous transvestite musician.
B. One of the 8 Taoist Immortals.
C. A philosopher-beggar who was cavalier towards money, like Diogenes the Cynic.
D. Some dude who affected wearing only one shoe, like Oedipus.
E. A drunk who would often sleep in the snow but with alleged psychic powers, melt it.
F. A deity that curses anyone who looks her up on the internet.
G. An all-girl Japanese thrash-metal revival band, popular on Youtube, and throughout Western Europe
H. A through E
I. A 17th century Kabbalist
J. None of the above.
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What an interesting character! An itinerant, liminal figure containing all opposites -- therefore having a special power. The answer is H.

Newgrange is:
A. A Neolithic solar calendar
B. A community work project of prehistoric times, spanning many generations
C. A tomb mound in Ireland
D. An ancient religious site
E. All of the above
post #46 of 228
E. All of the above Ody.

Newgrange. New to me but a fascinating site:

"Newgrange appears to have been built as a tomb. The alcoves in the cruciform chamber hold large stone basins into which were placed the bodies of those being laid to rest. The alignment with the sun is too precise to have occurred by chance. It is speculated that the sun formed an important part of the religious beliefs of the New Stone Age people who built it. The kerbstones around the outside of the passage tomb and some of the stones inside are engraved with patterns of spirals and zigzags. Formerly the mound was encircled by an outer ring of immense standing stones, of which there are twelve remaining.

Near Newgrange are many other passage tombs, the largest being Knowth and Dowth. These were all built around the same time as Newgrange. "---WordIQ
post #47 of 228
I think the fact that it is "all of the above" is what makes it so interesting. The integrated nature of it, combining many aspects.
post #48 of 228
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Originally Posted by Mario Justiniani View Post

You're welcome! And Hillaire has brought back a memory that may indicate E is not all that spurious.

Early 1970's talking with my first live-in gf. She asked about an article I was reading on Jiddhu Krishnamurti. I forget if it was by him or by Peter Fonda who bumped into JK at the beach and became friends.

* I love California*

Anyway I quoted something JK said which sounded 'spiritual' but rather odd to me:

" I am celibate because every part of my body is vibrant with love. "

She didn't miss a beat: " Oh. You mean he's impotent? "

If the allegations that Besant sexually abused her 'adopted son' are true, it wold explain quite a bit.

-------------------------------------

Around this time I made the acquaintance of one of these grandmotherly ritual witches cosmic whatever ( It's California, folks) who was always seeing white auras around everything, esp things that were utter crap.

However, she had had been present in 1930 when, at a mass rally of Theosophists, Krishnamuti--The New World Teacher and, according to Besant, the re-incarnation of Jesus and
--well Jesus knows who else--
Went up to the podium and politely told them to, as we would say these days, " To get a life. "

This despite many in the audience, including "granny" having seen The Holy Spirit descend upon him.
I asked her the obvious question: Why would he deny his divinity if he was The One, and break with Theosophy and, for that matter any other form of organized religion for the rest of his life?

She replied that-- well, he could have been The Christ had he proclaimed himself that day, but his courage failed him so " He didn't make the grade. "

**************************************

This story has no sequel, unless Life of Bryan based a few scenes on this e.g; "Only the true Messiah denies his Divinity."

Cheers,

Mario

What an interesting assortment of information, Mario. Thanks for that.

I know that J.K. referred to his celibacy and to lost innocence... as well as to childhood harm and other "loaded" topics frequently during interviews. Lots of these bits have fueled speculation and assumption. I recall one biography of him that did not exactly tread lightly on such topics, but I do not recall the name.

P.S. Whenever I open this thread I see a white aura around my monitor. And crop circles.
post #49 of 228
Akashic Records:

A. Is a small, privately-owned, collectible classic-rock album shop in Forest Row, England. It was started in the early nineties by a local shaman and long-time mushroom-gardener for Pink Floyd's own David Gilmore.
B. Was Cat Stevens' short-lived label from 1982-1982, via which he attempted an ill-fated, self-produced comeback.
C. Also known as the "Book of Life"; a.k.a. the etheric grid template; a.k.a.the trans-linear energetic, information highway... refers to the 'place', in which all that has ever been, and ever will be is 'recorded', 'mapped' and 'stored'... and purportedly 'visited', accessed and 'consulted' by some more 'ambitious' psychics, seers, and psychoactive-drug users.
D. None of the Above.
post #50 of 228
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Say, aren't they in the process of recording a Scandinavian Heavy Metal Band called Ragnarök?
post #51 of 228
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Say, aren't they in the process of recording a Scandinavian Heavy Metal Band called Ragnarök?

Isn't 13 Bhaktun the latest hit from Ozomatli?
post #52 of 228
The answer for "Akashic Records" is C. Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

"Generic human conduit" refers to:
A. An individual acting as a neutral conveyor of information, without adding any personal touches to the message.
B. The role played by someone who channels spirits of the deceased
C. The name of a Canadian post-industrial techno/ambient band
D. An associative state experienced when one realizes that one has been in a series of linked past lives
E. None of the above
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.....P.S. Whenever I open this thread I see a white aura around my monitor. And crop circles.

post #54 of 228
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Inspired by the wealth of information and terminology we have gotten:

1. Crop circles were formed by

A. UFO's
B. Post modernist hands on artists with a flair for a hoax.
C. The Great Earth Goddess
D. B and C, they were inspired by The Goddess---see Jung on mandalas.
E. Schizophrenics.

2. According to Kundalini Yoga when the top chakra finally 'opens' it can be as if a current of light passes from the spinal column to the brain, or as if something 'pops' on top of the head and it feels as if a viscous fluid descends. In any case it's life altering. The IQ might increase, fears may vanish, etc.

Which one of these individuals did NOT have a top Chakra Kundalini experience?

A. Gopi Krishna
B. G. Gordon Liddy
C. Jawaharlal Nehru
D. " Pretty Boy" Floyd
E. B and D
F. C and D

3. " You will regret your stupid blasphemies! "

Comes from

A. 2nd Isaiah (the LORD is speaking )
B. The Koran (The Prophet speaking directly to a crowd)
C. Euripedes ( Dionysus is speaking)
D. Dogen ( Trying to help a Zen monk)

4. "Lie down and look at the shapes of clouds; let your mind wonder and open yourself to creative ideas."

Was in fact a method often used by:

A. Hakuin
B. Leonardo da Vinci
C. Nikolas Tesla
D. Shirley Mc Laine (see her autobiography)
E. Monty Python

Cheers,

Mario

P.S. I haven't the foggiest as to ody's question but from analyzing the sentence I'll guess E. " None of the above. " Though it could be A. *sigh*
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Inspired by the wealth of information and terminology we have gotten:
3. " You will regret your stupid blasphemies! "

Comes from

A. 2nd Isaiah (the LORD is speaking )
B. The Koran (The Prophet speaking directly to a crowd)
C. Euripedes ( Dionysus is speaking)
D. Dogen ( Trying to help a Zen monk)


Cheers,

Mario

P.S. I haven't the foggiest as to ody's question but from analyzing the sentence I'll guess E. " None of the above. " Though it could be A. *sigh*

Well, to clarify my question...
The answer is indeed A. I heard that phrase in a seminar on plagiarism and copyright law. A lawyer was speaking and said that if a person acted in that capacity, he/she need not be cited explicitly. I always thought that "Generic Human Conduit" would be a great name for a band. I posed the question to keep this thread from being too easy (otherwise the mystical answer would always be right) and to show some of the mumbo-jumbo associated with this sort of thought (B and D could be right and sound good).

I'd like to take a crack at #3.
It doesn't sound right for 2 Isaiah, nor Muhammed (pbuh). I can't imagine Zen being at all interested in blasphemy. But Euripedes (being satirical) could be poking fun at that sort of thing, in the character of Dionysus (a party kinda guy).
post #56 of 228
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King Pentheus: " You will regret your clever answers. "

Dionysus: "You will regret your stupid blasphemies! "

The Bacchae


( I forget which translation. Somewhere when the two first meet. The god is brought in to the king as a prisoner, he's a foreigner who is accused of corrupting the morals of Thebes.)

A tragedy by Euripides circa 400 B.C.

One down, three to go.

Pax,

Mario
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Originally Posted by Mario Justiniani View Post

Inspired by the wealth of information and terminology we have gotten:

1. Crop circles were formed by

A. UFO's
B. Post modernist hands on artists with a flair for a hoax.
C. The Great Earth Goddess
D. B and C, they were inspired by The Goddess---see Jung on mandalas.
E. Schizophrenics.

2. According to Kundalini Yoga when the top chakra finally 'opens' it can be as if a current of light passes from the spinal column to the brain, or as if something 'pops' on top of the head and it feels as if a viscous fluid descends. In any case it's life altering. The IQ might increase, fears may vanish, etc.

Which one of these individuals did NOT have a top Chakra Kundalini experience?

A. Gopi Krishna
B. G. Gordon Liddy
C. Jawaharlal Nehru
D. " Pretty Boy" Floyd
E. B and D
F. C and D

Well, I'll take a stab at a couple more.
For (1) I'll say B+C = D. I know that B is right, and C makes sense.
For (2) hmmm. Krishna would not need to have such an experience, since he already was divine. The others seem odd but Lord K. is the only obvious choice, as it seems to me.
??????
post #58 of 228
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Well, I'll take a stab at a couple more.
For (1) I'll say B+C = D. I know that B is right, and C makes sense.
For (2) hmmm. Krishna would not need to have such an experience, since he already was divine. The others seem odd but Lord K. is the only obvious choice, as it seems to me.
??????

Well, your batting average remains high!
For (1) I agree, it's D. I say agree because while we can prove crop circles were done by post modernist hands on artists with a flair for a hoax, how on earth are we going to prove they were inspired by The Goddess to any skeptic? Unless, of course they've already agreed with Jung on mandalas But then they'd probably be Jungians or artists themselves instead of skeptics. (Is there such a thing as a post-modernist skeptic? I hope not)

However I believe one of the reasons you're stumped on (2) is that Gopi is not Lord Krishna's first name. The gentleman in question was, I believe, born one year before or after 'Pretty Boy' Floyd--I forget which.

Oh and don't forget folks, I asked which one of these individuals did NOT have a top chakra kundalini experience
Here's a hint: There was at least one who did have this experience, wrote an autobiography wherein he described the event--but nowhere used the words chakra, kundalini, or yoga to describe what happened to him one day when he first began to experience a sharp pain on the top of his head followed by . . .

Cheers,

Mario
post #59 of 228
Re: crop circles...According to an e-mail forward I just received. Crop circles are formed by the great, geometry-whiz angel Metatron to be deciphered mathematically. Messages contained give specific instructions to light-workers about how to prepare for ascension in 2012. Most recent messages from Shropshire England circles describe the Sun's having created a parallel, non-violent "Earth", to which the chosen, liberated souls will be "transported", when the Sun comes to envelope its poor hurting child, Earth in 2012.

Get ready!
I just thought I should share, since it wasn't one of your choices, Mario.
post #60 of 228
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2. According to Kundalini Yoga when the top chakra finally 'opens' it can be as if a current of light passes from the spinal column to the brain, or as if something 'pops' on top of the head and it feels as if a viscous fluid descends. In any case it's life altering. The IQ might increase, fears may vanish, etc.

Which one of these individuals did NOT have a top Chakra Kundalini experience?

A. Gopi Krishna
B. G. Gordon Liddy
C. Jawaharlal Nehru
D. " Pretty Boy" Floyd
E. B and D
F. C and D

Time for another stab at this one.
I see that Gopi Krisha was a promoter of Kundalini thought, so I don't think he's the one.
Liddy? Rather odd
Nehru? Possibly
Pretty Boy Floyd? Quite unlikely
I'll say B + D = E
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