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Something like Noir de Noir?

post #1 of 29
6/29/10 at 4:58am
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I love the smell of Noir de Noir from Tom Ford's Private Collection, it's one of the most beautiful fragrances ever made imo. But, no matter where I look, what I test with similar notes, I can't seem to find anything even remotely like it. Though for some reason before I even tried NdN it smelled very familiar to my nose, I just can't place it with what the fragrance was. Something mainstream for sure, or at least sold in most stores.

Anyways, the quest continues, I can't afford a bottle of NdN at this time, but I can afford to try out some cheaper alternatives. If you know of anything that smells like it, not just something with rose as the main note -- something with this type of rose. Sorry to sound so picky. Something that can be found for under 20 bucks would be a major plus. NdN has a pretty distinctive smell, and a lot of power behind it. Smells like smokey raspberries and rose to me, with fantastic projection and longevity.
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post #2 of 29
6/29/10 at 5:45am
100% Love, Black Tie and to a lesser extent Voleur de Roses
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post #3 of 29
6/29/10 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by scent View Post

100% Love, Black Tie and to a lesser extent Voleur de Roses

To an even lesser extent, in the mainstream, Sarah Jessica Parker's Lovely, for the same rose/patchouli vibe.

Actually, it will be difficult locating a close alternative Noir de Noir in the mainstream. IMO, the closest alternative in the rose/oud/saffron stakes is M Micallef's Aoud Homme.
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post #4 of 29
6/29/10 at 9:37am
Not really cheaper, but Bond No. 9 West Side is the closest thing I've tried. Might be able to snag a pile of samples (they sell in lots on ebay... sometimes end up being a whole ounce) for cheap.
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post #5 of 29
6/29/10 at 11:41am
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Thanks guys.
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post #6 of 29
6/29/10 at 4:34pm
I would just save up and buy Noir de Noir..I love that stuff. I just cant get myself to buy it, that and Musc Ravageur. Dont know why???
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post #7 of 29
6/29/10 at 5:01pm
I love NdN, too. I think that several other Tom Fords are quite similar because of that "black truffle" accord (whatever that really is) which they all share. Black Orchid to some extent (stronger, different floral, same black truffle). Tom Ford Extreme (oodles of black truffle, but not much floral). The scent you may be thinking of, which is still in Sephora and discounters for cheap, is Black Orchid Voile de Fleur. That has less of the chypre than NdN, and more (and different) floral, but the overall feel seems very similar to me. VdF is very cheap, too, and may have more projection and longevity than NdN. I'm seriously thinking about grabbing VdF while I still can.
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post #8 of 29
6/29/10 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post

I can't seem to find anything even remotely like it. Though for some reason before I even tried NdN it smelled very familiar to my nose, I just can't place it with what the fragrance was.

When I first tried NdN, I didn't like it thinking it was the usual scent I smell on the mid-30 corporate female types that I ride the skytrain with to work.
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post #9 of 29
6/29/10 at 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post

Smells like smokey raspberries and rose to me, with fantastic projection and longevity.

This sounds like Tuscan Leather to me. Are you sure you're talking about NdN?
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post #10 of 29
6/29/10 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post

I love NdN, too. I think that several other Tom Fords are quite similar because of that "black truffle" accord (whatever that really is) which they all share. Black Orchid to some extent (stronger, different floral, same black truffle). Tom Ford Extreme (oodles of black truffle, but not much floral). The scent you may be thinking of, which is still in Sephora and discounters for cheap, is Black Orchid Voile de Fleur. That has less of the chypre than NdN, and more (and different) floral, but the overall feel seems very similar to me. VdF is very cheap, too, and may have more projection and longevity than NdN...

What he said ^
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post #11 of 29
6/30/10 at 2:39am
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Originally Posted by nsamadi View Post

This sounds like Tuscan Leather to me. Are you sure you're talking about NdN?

Definitely not TL. I get no smokey raspberries or even any fruit notes from TL. Just a very linear leather with lots of power and longevity, I do think it's one of the purest leather fragrances out there, but not really my cup of tea.

I've tried quite a number of fragrances from Tom Ford, many from the private collection. Much props to this collection, I enjoyed most except for Bois Marocain and Bois Rouge, both smelled like blood and rust to me. I do appreciate all the time and effort put into these fragrances to make them stand out from others. Whether I like them or not, all present this high quality and richness. But Noir de Noir just exceeds all of the rest from the collection, absolutely gorgeous.. something I don't say too often.

Thanks guys for the feed back, I may look into this Black Orchid Voile de Fleur and see what will come of it.
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post #12 of 29
7/8/10 at 12:45am
I can tell you from personal experience that Voile de Fleur will not last longer than Noir de Noir. The oil content of Noir de Noir will see to that. As for finding a fragrance that smells similar, good luck. I would honestly just save your money. Why settle for something when you could save for what you actually want?
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post #13 of 29
7/12/10 at 12:09pm
Last night I wore Noir de Noir while I sat down to watch a movie on the couch and wow...this stuff smelled so strong on me, I don't remember it being quite so radiant and diffusive the last few times I've worn it. I smelled it for hours, until bed.

The_Cologneist - have you smelled Paestum Rose by Eau d'Italie? If not, please do. I think both of these share some similar tangy, floral, woody accords. PR is missing the chocolate note, but besides that I think you might find them related.
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post #14 of 29
7/12/10 at 12:39pm
In Black by J. del Pozo. To my nose, almost the same fragrance as Noir de Noir. Designated a feminine, but completely Unisex. Check the Basenotes reviews. This one can always be found super cheap on line.
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post #15 of 29
7/12/10 at 12:42pm
I find Caberet by Gres has some similar attributes to Noir de Noir.

Regards,

Steve
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post #16 of 29
7/12/10 at 12:50pm
Noir Patchouli by Histoires de Parfum is close I think. (I prefer it to NdN.)
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post #17 of 29
7/12/10 at 1:04pm
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Thanks on the last 4 posts. I always see In Black on Scent Monkey in the Men's section although it's a woman's frag, so thanks for that tidbit. I added both In Black, and Paestum Rose to my extensive test list. I'll look into all of these. Promlem for me is having to go mostly blind and based on reviews and other opinions, I wouldn't wanna spend more than 20 bucks if it's not gonna work out for me.
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post #18 of 29
7/12/10 at 5:31pm
I adore NdN, but it just smells extremely feminine to me. I just can't imagine an occasion when I'd actually want to wear it, but it's certainly one beautiful fragrance. So intoxicating.
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post #19 of 29
7/13/10 at 4:25am
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Originally Posted by Riverwide View Post

I adore NdN, but it just smells extremely feminine to me. I just can't imagine an occasion when I'd actually want to wear it, but it's certainly one beautiful fragrance. So intoxicating.

I too felt this way when I first tried it, I applied way too much. It's very potent and powerful, and you just need a little bit. Even now when I wear it, it still has "unisex" written all over it. Strangely enough, I don't find this too feminine anymore, nor do I find it masculine. It's like something of no classification, like a piece of heaven. If it does smell feminine to others, that's a risk I'm willing to take. It is in fact both "beautiful" and "intoxicating".
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post #20 of 29
7/13/10 at 7:10am
I agree - this one you need to go easy on the trigger to really enjoy and experience it's beauty. It's very radiant...2 tiny sprays from a plastic decant atomizer, under my shirt, scented me for more than 4 hours.
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post #21 of 29
7/14/10 at 2:51pm
I'm definitely going to try this one again. As you guys say, perhaps less is more in this case. I tend to go overboard with sprays, as I'm so often disappointed with the strength of fragrances that I like.
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post #22 of 29
3/8/12 at 12:39am
Une Rose from Frederic Malle
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post #23 of 29
3/8/12 at 1:06am
Another for M Micallef's Aoud Homme
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post #24 of 29
3/8/12 at 1:54am
Just get a split of Noir de Noir. I got a 50ml for much less than retail and it's great.
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post #25 of 29
4/7/12 at 8:04am
Lady Vengeance comes pretty close IMO.
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post #26 of 29
4/7/12 at 8:09am
Amouage Epic Woman mixed with Le Labo Rose 31
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post #27 of 29
7/14/12 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by spirit966 View Post

Une Rose from Frederic Malle

I don't see any similarities between these two.
I've just bought a decant of Noir de Noir. It strongly reminds me of Lady Vengeance.
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post #28 of 29
7/14/12 at 10:02am
Coromandel.
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post #29 of 29
7/14/12 at 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by DieNase View Post

I don't see any similarities between these two.
I've just bought a decant of Noir de Noir. It strongly reminds me of Lady Vengeance.

Indeed, and also, Armani Privé Rose d'Arabie...
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