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post #1 of 37
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Some may know that I have a mild obsession with the character of Sherlock Holmes and the stories about him. While I was in the U.K. in late August, there was much excitement about a new BBC series, titled "Sherlock" which put the character into the 21st century. The 3-part series (I think this is correct) is being shown here in North America on the Showcase network.
In each case (UK, Canada) I wasn't able to view the show. So I'd enjoy hearing anyone's comments on the show. For example, the equally enthusiastic Mario Justiniani might have something to say! Cheers, ody.
post #2 of 37
It was bloody good! Holmes was played as bordering on sociopathic. Lots of brains, no social skills whatsoever.

Do catch it if you get the chance.
post #3 of 37
I'd love to see that. I'm a big fan of Sherlock Holmes. I'll be on the lookout for that, but I might have to wait until it comes out on DVD.
post #4 of 37
But will it come out on DVD that's viewable across the pond? My sister-in-law was kind enough to send us the Jeremy Brett series, and as I heard, people had to petition to get it to come out in DVD format that's viewable in the U.S.

(I'm still waiting for the BBC to put out DVD's of "Don't Wait Up"!)
post #5 of 37
I saw it in the UK. To be honest, I didn't think it was anything that special, but it was a reasonably entertaining, fairly watchable middle-of-the-road kind of thing. I think I heard they're doing another series, in case that's of interest.
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I think I heard they're doing another series, in case that's of interest.

That's always of interest.
post #7 of 37
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But will it come out on DVD that's viewable across the pond? ...

The fact that it has been broadcast in the North American market gives me hope.
post #8 of 37
ody, who's starring in the series? I ADORED the Jeremy Brett Holmes, really liked the old somewhat hammed-up and inauthentic old Holmes movies and TV series, and am a bit of a Holmes freak (I even love the derivative and pastiche novels out there, at least many of them).
post #9 of 37
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ody, who's starring in the series? I ADORED the Jeremy Brett Holmes, really liked the old somewhat hammed-up and inauthentic old Holmes movies and TV series, and am a bit of a Holmes freak (I even love the derivative and pastiche novels out there, at least many of them).

Holmes is played by the wonderfully named, Benedict Cumberbatch : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1475582/
post #10 of 37
You can watch the Cumberbatch Sherlock online (routed though China's Tudou broadcasting).

UPDATE … THESE LINKS ARE SUPERCEEDED BY LINKS TO BETTER-QUALITY WISEVID SOURCE 8 POSTS DOWN FROM THIS ONE.
Episode 1: The Study in Pink
Episode 2: The Blind Banker
Episode 3: The Great Game


You can locate virtually every movie and most TV shows by using Google search/videos. Choose duration "Long (20+ min.)." If that doesn't turn up what you're looking for, try "Medium (4-20 min.)," because some shows are broken into bite-size installments.
post #11 of 37
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You can watch the Cumberbatch Sherlock online (routed though China's Tudou broadcasting).

Episode 1: The Study in Pink

Wow! Thanks, Quarry! (Spoiler ahead)
When I first clicked on that, I thought I'd accidentally stumbled upon a pirated video of _Saving Private Ryan_, but then I remembered the opening of "A Study in Scarlet" and I was immediately impressed. 'Don't have time to view the whole thing, but I like the intro immensely!
post #12 of 37
I watched the first episode and most of The Blind Banker last night. Enjoyed them tremendously, aside from the lower resolution and reduced sound quality.

F.Y.I. It's my understanding that much of Tudou's content is made available against copyright laws, but we've been turning to it for years now as the only source for some programming. I expect that eventually almost everything will be available online as the communication revolution rages on.

Youku (a Tudou competitor) used to be a similar source of entertainment, but its access has now been blocked. A small side benefit of watching Tudou is learning some symbols of the Chinese written language.

P.S.
Sometimes the video feed from Tudou can lag (buffer). You can try connecting again or turn off the sound and let the movie build up in the buffer, then go back after several minutes and drag the progress button back to the beginning of the progress bar and let it play.
post #13 of 37
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It was bloody good!

I second this! I am in the middle of the first episode, and I gotta say, aside from the adjustment of not being able to understand his English well (it helps that I can rewind, and it may also be due to the fact that the speakers on my computer suck), he really is pretty darn close to a modern version of the Jeremy Brett series. I also really appreciate that they did that little intro on Watson, as I really do like him as a character in the books. He really stands on his own, it seems, in this series. I could go on and on, but I kinda wanna finish watching the first episode while the little one is still asleep!
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. . So I'd enjoy hearing anyone's comments on the show. For example, the equally enthusiastic Mario Justiniani might have something to say! Cheers, ody.

What? I may have something to say? Well . . .if you insist

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P.S.
Sometimes the video feed from Tudou can lag (buffer). You can try connecting again or turn off the sound and let the movie build up in the buffer, then go back after several minutes and drag the progress button back to the beginning of the progress bar and let it play.

Right you are. Otherwise you might put your fist through the monitor. Let the whole bloody show load first!

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I am in the middle of the first episode, and I gotta say, aside from the adjustment of not being able to understand his English well (it helps that I can rewind, and it may also be due to the fact that the speakers on my computer suck),. . . .

Aiona, your speakers are fine. Though ( or because or in spite of) being born and raised in London and attending LAMDA, Benedict has a tendency to swallow his words.
I don't know if it's a bad habit or if it was his interpretation of the way Sherlock would speak. I had no problem at all understanding Martin Freeman (Watson) or anyone else in the cast.

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Holmes: I never guess!
Watson: Yes you do.

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Interesting 21st century take. Best rendition of an original character: Inspector Lestrade.

Ok, so this was nowhere near the Jeremy Brett version of the original stories, but it was intelligent and witty

Cute (for Holmes fanatics) points: The issue of Watson's wound which Sir Arthur left up in the air, as in one story it appears to be a leg wound and in another, a shoulder wound is finally decisively resolved

In A Study in Scarlet Lestrade gets it wrong and thinks " Rache" is Rachel. Holmes tells him not to waste any time looking for Rachel, as "Rache" is revenge in German. In this one Lestrade gets it wrong again-the other way around. He thinks Rache=revenge. It isn't. --It's Rachel

Holmes, when accused by one cop of being a psychopath retorts with: " I'm not. I'm a high functioning sociopath. Do your research! "

Then there's the nicotine patches: "This is a three patch problem. "

Principally, Holmes is presented as an adrenalin / danger junkie-- and Watson doesn't lag far behind in that department, either.

All in all, this was great fun to watch.

Cheers,

Mario
post #15 of 37
Yay, thanks Quarry! I've saved the link to go back and watch later this evening.
post #16 of 37
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Thanks to all for the comments and particular thanks to Quarry for the link. I watch a bit of the first episode, and I enjoyed it.
post #17 of 37
I almost hate to admit that I watched eps 1-3 yesterday (kind of in between chores) and enjoyed 'em greatly. I like the translation to modern day internet ubergeek Holmes (how else would he KNOW so much) and the little nods to the original stories. I also like the slightly anachronistic coat, nearly a frock coat, that Cumberbatch wears, and I do like the grumbling but enthusiastic interpretation of Watson.

Storyline one I more or less got the drift of immediately and figured out what kind of person they were looking for, so it was a little bit of a letdown there. But overall, the Holmes spirit is there.

Definitely love the "three patch problem" ... LOL ... yes, that's a good 21st century equivalent!

(and I found a better quality audio on another video feed by searching Sherlock, Episode 1 (etc.) as the Tudou feed's audio is atrocious.) Wisevid I think...maybe. Couldn't access it directly but could get a link to it by searching, then shutting down the popup windows that ensued.)
post #18 of 37
Good hunting, actialuna! Way better broadcast quality.

Study in Pink:
http://www.wisevid.com/play?v=4A_uwtJdxvw3
The Blind Banker
: http://www.wisevid.com/gate-way?v=0tbuwgA5A_u2
The Great Game: http://www.wisevid.com/play?v=0t_8tcwvqu90
post #19 of 37
How many episodes are there? (I'm hooked and a certain ... cough ... ciffhanger ending definitely has me hanging!)
post #20 of 37
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I think that the first series had three episodes. Based on high ratings in the UK, there is talk of a second series.
post #21 of 37
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Thought I'd give an update. I was able to view the second episode on the Showcase network. LOVED IT!! to the max.
Sure there are some new elements: a bit of the floating numbers from "A Beautiful Mind", more than a little of the forensic quick-cut razzle-dazzle of CSI, Holmes with an eidetic visual acuity... combined with a huge dose of the wonderfully quirky Jeremy Brett. I found this very entertaining, I enjoyed the interplay between Holmes and Watson. The story... a bit far-fetched but I appreciated the shadowy "M" (we all know who that is) making a virtual appearance at the end. When this is on DVD, I will get it.
PS - the sound was a bit muddled generally, thought I found all characters easy to understand for the most part. But I really had to boost the volume.
post #22 of 37
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Sure there are some new elements: a bit of the floating numbers from "A Beautiful Mind", more than a little of the forensic quick-cut razzle-dazzle of CSI

I, too, watched the 2nd episode. And yeah, I see elements of "A Beautiful Mind" and the pipettes and all from the 1st episode made me think a little of "X-Files." But really, when I think about it, all these shows that came afterwards are attempts to recreate the brilliance of the original Sherlock theme and make it less anachronistic. I mean, fingerprinting has been in use for quite a while.
post #23 of 37
Oh yeah, these were terrific viewing! I was so dissapointed there were only 3 episodes! I have a Graboid subscription and downloaded all 3 from that. The second one was only slightly less fantastic than #1 and #3.

It kept bugging me- where had I seen that actor playing Sherlock before??? In Agatha Christie's Miss Marple Murder is Easy episode- that's where.

Brits have the BEST TV shows!
post #24 of 37
I must have liked The Blind Banker the least.
I only watched it 2 times
The others, well . . .

Brilliant.
Glad to hear it was a hit series. I hope the writing is as good when the others come out.
Say, when are they scheduled to come out?

Cheers,

M.
post #25 of 37
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Hey Mario, I'm glad to see that you've enjoyed this segment of the shows. You are a great Sherlock fan, I know.
I hope the DVD set is released soon, and that there is momentum for a second series of episodes. Perhaps those in the UK will have better sense of what's happening.
... "the game's afoot!"...
post #26 of 37
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I hope the DVD set is released soon, and that there is momentum for a second series of episodes.

I didn't realize that in the UK a "series" is sometimes only a few episodes. Man! Yes, I'm hoping they'll release a FOURTH episode!
post #27 of 37
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Brits have the BEST TV shows!

We just recently got cable (after a 20+ year hiatus, the only thing that forced me to get it is that my visiting mom *had* to watch her "American Idol"), and we have the BBC America channel now. Off topic, I know, but one Sunday I watched a marathon of the latest "Dr. Who." I was never a fan of this show, but this last season was. . . amusing!

What struck me about this show is that, like "Babylon 5," it really is an epic. The episodes are based off each other, and at the season finale *SPOILER AHEAD*, everything that happened in the first episode is kind of explained.
post #28 of 37
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The shows are now being broadcast in rotation on Showcase and other North American stations. I've seen all three episodes, and enjoy them a lot. I get more out of them the second time I see them. Glad to hear that the third episode is a cliffhanger, I thought I'd missed something. Isn't Moriarty creepy? A Joker kind of figure. I'm hooked, and look forward to more!
post #29 of 37
Yes, Ody, I'm hooked, too. I've lost count how many times I've viewed them. It's nice watching them broadcast on our big screen with the closed captioning; there are always a few words noticed that way which were missed before.

For the time being episodes can be viewed via PBS Masterpiece Theatre here: http://video.pbs.org/program/979359625/
post #30 of 37
Some series two hints: http://channelhopping.onthebox.com/2...eries-2-hints/

(again, just three of 90 mins each I think)
post #31 of 37
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But will it come out on DVD that's viewable across the pond?

Yes, it is!

Viewable across the pond
post #32 of 37
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Some series two hints: http://channelhopping.onthebox.com/2...eries-2-hints/

(again, just three of 90 mins each I think)

Thanks, Grant! Wonderful news.
post #33 of 37
Love it, love it, love it! Finally saw it on Masterpiece Mystery over the last month or so (after putting my little Sapling to bed for the night). I've long been a fan of Martin Freeman, and I really enjoy him in this grittier role, though still playing a sort of put-upon everyman. Cumberbatch is new to me, and I nearly didn't recognize Rupert Graves-- Freddy Honeychurch got OLD! What does that make me? Yikes!

Edit: "Anyone who has read the story will question whether there will be a third series of Sherlock." Um, anyone who has read the story but is otherwise completely uninformed might. But it does seem odd to so soon introduce the demise of Moriarty.

DH and I were also chuffed (as you say over there) when we saw Steven Moffat's name in the opening credits. I wasn't able to make DH a big fan of Coupling, but we love his work on Dr. Who. The Girl in the Fireplace is probably my favorite thing to ever be on tv (well, top five anyway).
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DH and I were also chuffed (as you say over there) when we saw Steven Moffat's name in the opening credits. I wasn't able to make DH a big fan of Coupling, but we love his work on Dr. Who. The Girl in the Fireplace is probably my favorite thing to ever be on tv (well, top five anyway).

Wow. . . okay. Now I understand why I enjoy the latest "Dr. Who" so much. I thought I should apologize for going off-topic when I mentioned it, but thank you for enlightening me. I can see now how similar in style both of these shows are. I must look up more of Moffat's work.
post #35 of 37
"Who" crazy, too -- Baker, Eccleston, Smith, but mostly Tennant. I need to check out doctors 7 and 8, McCoy and McGann.
post #36 of 37
Moffat fans who haven't done so, should really check out Jeckyl too:

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0497298/
post #37 of 37
Thanks, Grant. Found it online here: http://www.mgoon.com/view.htm?id=2035016

It may look like the video isn't starting, but give it a minute. Even if you hear some jagged Korean advertising, just wait a few seconds without clicking on anything. Once the show starts, there are no feed problems.

Update — Here are the links to subsequent episodes.

Episode 2: http://www.mgoon.com/view.htm?id=2035029
E3: http://www.mgoon.com/view.htm?id=2035083
E4: http://www.mgoon.com/view.htm?id=2035108
E5: http://www.mgoon.com/view.htm?id=2035097
E6: http://www.mgoon.com/view.htm?id=2035156

I remember watching something of this series before, but not all of it.
What's slightly disconcerting is that the female co-star is better known to some of us as the newer Bionic Woman (with an American accent).
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