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Really Smokey Incense With A Touch Of Sweetness

post #1 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:00am
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I'm looking for a really smokey incense based scent with just a touch of sweetness. The sweetness should come from notes (or a combination of notes) of rose, sandalwood, (black) spice notes, amber or agarwood.

I've found such a scent in two fragrances. MoslBuddJewChristHinDao by Elternhaus and Orris by Tauer Perfumes. Sadly both are discontinued and nearly impossible to find now.

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What I'm not looking for (examples below):

Incense Rose - too sweet & tangy, almost balances the incense.

Vanille 44/John Galliano Room Spray - Although really smokey with a touch of sweetness. The sweetness is from a vanilla note, which I don't want.

Sequoia/Palisander (Series 3: Red) - sweet woody incense but not really smokey, which I'm looking for. Leans more towards woody.

2 Man/Patchouli 24 - really smokey incense, birch tar scents but no sweetness.

L'air du Desert Marocain - again, not looking for a vanilla/amber base. No vanilla sweetness please.

CdG Series 3 Incense - smokey, incense, chalky, musty, no sweetness.

Suggestions, please?
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post #2 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:18am
I'm thinking about CdG Wonderwood. It is burned inscense with the sweetness from woody notes.
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post #3 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:31am
Bond No 9 Silver Factory ?. Smoky incense with an amber / resin sweetness in the base.
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post #4 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:32am
Not really a big fan of incense, but maybe:

YSL M7- incensy fireplace-type smell
Gris Clair- smokey lavendar (not sure if this is for you, but it's quite nice)
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post #5 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:36am
Amouage Tribute or Francis Kurkdjian Absolue Pour Le Soir maybe ?
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post #6 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:39am
Memoir Man might be a fit . . . worth trying anyway.
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post #7 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:42am
have you sampled NarizB... ?
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post #8 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:56am
Halston Man Amber is exactly what you are looking for. Go try it. It has a definite smoke smell to it that turns into incense and the amber sweetness plays perfectly with it.
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post #9 of 42
10/5/10 at 7:46am
How you tried Divine L'Homme Sage? For most of its evolution it's a dry incense-dominant scent supported by resinous wood and a dash of dry amber. I wouldn't say it's "really smokey" though.
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post #10 of 42
10/5/10 at 7:52am
Annick Goutal Encens Flamboyant. Maybe not sweet enough for you, though....
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post #11 of 42
10/5/10 at 8:04am
or Annick Goutal Ambre Fetiche. It's a smokey birch-tar amber, never really gets too sweet.
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post #12 of 42
10/5/10 at 8:10am
Try the N.2 Damir Doma of Six Scents Series. It is a very odd perfume, that I personally do not like much, but it seems to fit your bill: incense, quite dry in the beginning, moulding into an ambery woody base. Again, it's an odd fragrance that develops very slowly and has got a sort of civet-musky hint to it. Sample it first, I have the feeling it reacts funny with different types of skin!
Worth checking the reviews on the net
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post #13 of 42
10/5/10 at 8:35am
You can try the new Loewe 7. It has a clear incense note over a sweet slightly floral base. Good longevity and discrete projection. Not an overpowering scent, which can be OK depending on your tastes.
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post #14 of 42
10/5/10 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by Furriner View Post

Annick Goutal Encens Flamboyant. Maybe not sweet enough for you, though....

i was thinking the same scent, myself. I find it pretty sweet.

can be had, online, for good prices also
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post #15 of 42
10/5/10 at 8:49am
Givenchy Xeryus
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post #16 of 42
10/5/10 at 9:06am
Have you tried SL Serge Noire? You might want to give it a proper wearing if you haven't. Woodsy incense with just a touch of sweetness in the base is exactly what it is on my skin. It wears like a veil and never gets heavy but the camphoraceous dry top may be a little harsh but hey, Basenoters don't judge by top notes or else this site would've been called Topnotes. I think this is one of the least understood Lutens - but definitely one of the best from the house.
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post #17 of 42
10/5/10 at 9:15am
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but hey, Basenoters don't judge by top notes or else this site would've been called Topnotes

.......lol excellent.
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post #18 of 42
10/5/10 at 9:47am
I think I know the idea that you are speaking about, as I love both Orris and the reviews I've read of that Elternhaus fragrance sounds really good. I'm surprised that you don't find Kyoto (Series 3: Incense) meeting your request, as I find this very smoky with just a wonderful tiny bit of sweetness.

I agree with the recommendations for: Serge Noire, Silver Factory and Encens Flamboyant (although the Goutal has the strangest watery type note that sort of throws this one into completely different territory). I will also add these: Japon Noir by Tom Ford, Encens Home Spray by Byredo (sorry I think this one is discontinued), Messe de Minuit by Etro and Lucifer No. 1 by Damien Bash
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post #19 of 42
10/5/10 at 9:50am
Jubilation XXV by Amouage
Fille en Aiguilles by Serge Lutens

***I'm really curious about that Silver Factory hmmmm?!?
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post #20 of 42
10/5/10 at 10:19am
It sound's to me like you've just described Ambre, by L'Occitane.
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post #21 of 42
10/5/10 at 1:08pm
There's Michael for Men, if you don't mind the tobacco note. And there's Eau l'Iparie by L'Occitane. The dried fruit type thing up top burns off within an hour or so, and then it might be just what you're seeking.
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post #22 of 42
10/5/10 at 4:03pm
Jil Sander Man 2007
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post #23 of 42
10/5/10 at 4:09pm
Montale Full Incense
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post #24 of 42
10/5/10 at 4:57pm
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think I'm going to look into Tribute, Absolue Pour Le Soir & 10 Corso Como.

It's kind of hard to describe what I'm looking for but it has to be a dominant smokey incense fragrance with a slight rose/sandalwood sweetness. Similar to Orris or MoslBuddJewChristHinDao.
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post #25 of 42
10/5/10 at 4:58pm
I would suggest Santal Noble. The most beautiful sandalwood I'd tried.
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post #26 of 42
10/5/10 at 5:08pm
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think I'm going to look into Tribute, Absolue Pour Le Soir & 10 Corso Como.

It's kind of hard to describe what I'm looking for but it has to be a dominant smokey incense fragrance with a slight rose/sandalwood sweetness. Similar to Orris or MoslBuddJewChristHinDao.

If you're going to sample 10CC please do sample Costes EDT as well, which is structurally quite similar but, to my nose at least, far more unique and enjoyable. Also, it has quite good projection and decent staying power, especially for an Olivia Giacobetti creation.

I also +1 the Memoir Man suggestion. It might not be sweet enough for you though.
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post #27 of 42
10/5/10 at 5:22pm
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post #28 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:00pm
Guerlain - Bois d'Arménie

and +1 on Costes, the Goutals (Ambre Fétiche, Encens Flamboyant), and Messe de Minuit
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post #29 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:31pm
hmmm... really REALLY smoky? you might laugh but- bijan. first time i smelled it i thought it smelled like ashtray. very smoky insense with sweetness...
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post #30 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:42pm
I've wanted to try that Elternhaus MoslBuddJewChristHinDao for years and Luckyscent just doesn't ever restock it. I read somewhere that Mark Buxton claimed that was his favorite incense creation and now it is impossible to find. Do you know a source?

I can heartily echo several recommendations made in this thread that I think match your quest - Jubilation XXV, Six Scents Series 2 No. 2 and Halston Man Amber are all outstanding fragrances. In fact I am still reeling from my sample of Halston Man Amber and anxiously awaiting my bottle to arrive by mail. The Halston Man Amber is an amber scent first and foremost but it is shot through with smokey sparkling woods.

The fact you want some sweetness leads me to also recommend Alexa Lixfield No. 2 - the incense is almost overshadowed by the sandalwood but it is smokey and charming wooded incense. I also like CDG Jaisalmer and surprised you didn't like that one but I don't think it has rose.
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post #31 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:45pm
Gucci Rush for Men is my go-to for smoky incense. But it's bone dry, not sweet at all. And discontinued, too. Still, if you like smoky incense, you should check it out. It's one of my favorite fragrances for clubbing, and other wild nights on the town.
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post #32 of 42
10/5/10 at 6:57pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Buzzlepuff View Post

I've wanted to try that Elternhaus MoslBuddJewChristHinDao for years and Luckyscent just doesn't ever restock it. I read somewhere that Mark Buxton claimed that was his favorite incense creation and now it is impossible to find. Do you know a source?

I had a sample from almost 2 years ago. It had The Perfumed Court label on it. They don't stock it anymore and it's nearly impossible to find now. It comes close to CDG 3 to give you an idea, maybe 60% but it's still really different. Better use of notes. Transparent, heavy white smoke with a rose/sandalwood sweetness. It's one of those atmospheric scents.

Thanks for the recommendations. Jubilation XXV is not smokey enough. I'm looking for the smokiness of Vetiver 46/CDG 2 Man. It has to be a incense/frankincense based scent with a small hint of warm fruity sweetness.
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post #33 of 42
10/5/10 at 7:52pm
La Nuit De l'Homme by YSL
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post #34 of 42
10/5/10 at 8:08pm
Silver Factory and Jubilation XXV
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post #35 of 42
10/5/10 at 8:17pm
Another one to consider is Al Oudh. To me it is quite smoky - it literally smells like aoud smoke - but also sweetened with rose and spices. The smoke here has a velvety quality to it, unlike the more ashy smoke of Memoir Man or Serge Noire.
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post #36 of 42
10/5/10 at 8:35pm
I want to say Serge Lutens Fumerie Turque but I'm afraid it may be slightly too sweet for you. The sweetness on me is more of a resinous sweetness and is very satisfying mixed with the smokey elements. I think it's worth a try though.

notes: currants, white honey, candied Turkish rose, Egyptian jasmine, smoked leather, beeswax, Balkan tobacco, Peru balsam, patchouli, tonka bean, styrax, juniper, and vanilla.
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post #37 of 42
10/5/10 at 8:44pm
Heeley Cardinal.
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post #38 of 42
10/5/10 at 9:01pm
I feel like I should suggest Nasomatto Black Afgano, because I'm wearing it right now. Very strong, smoky, slightly sweet incense with a ton of staying power.
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post #39 of 42
10/5/10 at 9:06pm
You could also try Serena Franco's "Incense Noir," a rather gothic and deep incense with 'just a touch of sweetness.' I love it and layer it with Wazamba (sweeter) or Encens Flamboyant. She is the "Ava" in ava-luxe.com perfumes. There are definite smoky notes in it, but still it has more than just charred wood or ashes. If you wanted something TOTALLY ashen, try Profumum's horrible "Fumidus," which is absolutely the worst of it's type. Maybe not as bad as Secretions Magnifique though.
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post #40 of 42
10/5/10 at 9:37pm
+1 on Bois d'Armenie

I also would recommend Aedes de Venustas and Wazamba
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post #41 of 42
10/6/10 at 6:18pm
Parfums d`Empire Wazamba
Parfums d´Empire Aziyadé
Eau d´Italie Baume du Doge
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post #42 of 42
10/7/10 at 7:54am
Sonoma Scent Studio - Ambre Noir
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