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Is Bois d'Orage the answer to Angeliques Sous la Pluies' shortcomings?

post #1 of 9
10/8/10 at 10:49am
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I have sampled Angeliques Sous la Pluies and actually had some kind of epiphany when I smelled it the first time but I quickly realized how weak sillage and longevity are. Many reviews confirm that this is an issue that prevented many from buying it. Well I recently bought a bottle from a fellow BNer anyway but now I consider getting Bois d'Orage (aka French Lover) as a replacement.

What do you think about the current formulation (the 9% strenght)?
Did Pierre Bourdon succeed with making a stronger version of Angeliques Sous la Pluies?
Just how related are they and would a person like me like Bois d'Orage?

I love ASlP's
- peppery Anglica notes as well as the whole Gin Tonic/wet stone-accord
- transparency and airyness
- the coriander notes

but hated
- sillage and longevity
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post #2 of 9
10/8/10 at 11:18am
I think a stronger formulation of Angeliques Sous la Pluie would answer Angeliques Sous la Pluie's shortcomings.

French Lover is often cited as a "stronger" ASP, and while it does include a similar angelica note, the overall scent is very different. ASP is delicate and frosty, with a bit of sweetness, more like a summery gin cocktail. French Lover is butch: moss and wood and incense accompany the angelica, instead of fresh, sort of floral greenery. Completely different experience. I do wish ASP was stronger, but French Lover isn't the answer.

I mean, you'd probably like FL, but just don't expect an Angeliques Sous la Pluie twin...maybe a distant second cousin.
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post #3 of 9
10/8/10 at 11:26am
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Thanks, that was the sort of clarification I was looking for. I read somewhere that a stronger ASlP was the initial idea behind it but that Pierre Bourdon just took it as a reference. Sounds like French Lover is really just referencing the Angelica.
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post #4 of 9
10/8/10 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by Nasenmann View Post

I read somewhere that a stronger ASlP was the initial idea behind it but that Pierre Bourdon just took it as a reference.

Yeah, I think ASP was the inspiration, but FL took on its own personality and really diverged from its source material. Which is a good thing. I don't think we needed a re-branded clone of ASP, but I wouldn't mind a stronger ASP that is still just ASP. The smell itself doesn't need any tinkering, but the lifespan does.
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post #5 of 9
10/8/10 at 11:38am
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Yeah, let's start a petition for a Angeliques Sous la Pluies Concentree!
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post #6 of 9
10/8/10 at 2:13pm
+1 on all above. I asked Frederic Malle about this when he was here and his response was pretty casual, along the lines of 'we started playing with the idea of 'amping up / pushing the envelope' (my words) of Angeliques and this is what we ended up with'. I think it stated as an idea and then FL took on a life of it's own as they went along.

I love both of them - I just think of Angeliques as a 'sharpener' and appreciate it for what it is
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post #7 of 9
10/8/10 at 2:30pm
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I guess ASlP is a very good choice for wearing during job interviews. Thankfully I don't need to do those at the moment, so I'll stick with wearing it whenever I need a refreshment from the heavier scents and be cautiously hopeful for an amped up version in the future...
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post #8 of 9
3/17/11 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by Nasenmann View Post

Yeah, let's start a petition for a Angeliques Sous la Pluies Concentree!

Bump...

...for what is yet another thing I agree with Nasenmann about....GREAT IDEA !!!!
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post #9 of 9
3/17/11 at 4:34pm
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What do you think about the current formulation (the 9% strength)?

It's wonderful IMO.
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