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Frederic Malle Noir Epices and Eau d`Italie Baume du Doge

post #1 of 12
10/27/10 at 5:02am
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Are these two fragrances a bit similar? I have read that both has a orange-note and a "christmas bakery" smell. What you think?
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post #2 of 12
10/27/10 at 5:17am
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Originally Posted by Oslo-Fjord View Post

Are these two fragrances a bit similar? I have read that both has a orange-note and a "christmas bakery" smell. What you think?

I don`t think they have something in common. Noir Epices, at least for me, had a bitter, acidic orange accord combined with aldeides and sharp spices. The acidic and aldehidic accord it`s the part that i don`t like on this one.
Baume du Doge it`s more close to L'Artisan Dzonghka, Amouage Jubilation XXV and L'Artisan Aedes. It`s the same spicy-cedar structure that Bertrand Douchafor used in this fragrances, but here interpreted in a creamy, orange confection. The orange is sweet, spicy, somehow milky, and conduct to a cinnamon proeminent base that ends in a cedar and incense base. While I enjoyed this one, i thought that the idea was better executed in Jubilation XXV, and ended selling my bottle since i didn`t used it so much. But yes, there`s a christmas sort of aura, because of the warm, spicy touch with the sweet orange aroma and the milky creaminess. If you wans something similar of Jubilation XXV, that is less sweet, more spicy, and less expensive, this is a great alternative.
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post #3 of 12
10/27/10 at 8:44am
Baume du Doge can be similar to Serge Noire on me (i wore it and two persons though i had put SN)
I really love Baume, Noir épices is a good frag too but they have nothing really common and it's more classical to my nose... I you are looking for "christmas bakery" (even if i don't know what it is lol) then Noir épices maybe more what you want...
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post #4 of 12
10/27/10 at 8:50am
I can only speak about Noir Epices. To me, it's almost entirely strong pepper, on top of flowers, or at least I'd consider it flowers. A slight citrus in the opening.

Nothing that suggest christmas bakery to me. For that, I would suggest Tobacco Vanille, Anything by Frapin pretty much especially Caravelle Epicee, maybe musc ravageur to some extent.
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post #5 of 12
10/27/10 at 9:00am
Noir epices and Baume du doge share almost nothing in common. Both are definitely spicy fragrances but at the opposites of the palette. Noir epices can be seen as a cold spice bouquet, morphed by florals and metallic aldehides with a citrus touch.
Baume du doge is a warmer spiced cream with prominent cinnamon.
If you look for a Christmas bakery try Dyptique Eau lente maybe
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post #6 of 12
10/27/10 at 9:08am
Noir Epices - cold, dry, astringent. It smells brittle and lean, yet intense. I don't actually smell any orange here.

Baume Au Doge - sweet, creamy, medicinal. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Baume Au Doge smells like an orange creamsicle dipped into some myrrh essential oil. I don't get much spice here, just an overwhelming myrrh.

For a "Christmas Spice" accord, I recommend Serge Lutens Fille En Aiguilles and Etat Libre d'Orange's Like This.
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post #7 of 12
10/27/10 at 10:05am
I know it's not what you were directly asking, but for "Christmas Bakery" smell, I'd suggest PG's un crime exotique.
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post #8 of 12
10/27/10 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by gandhajala View Post

I know it's not what you were directly asking, but for "Christmas Bakery" smell, I'd suggest PG's un crime exotique.

Yep, thats right. I`m not looking for a christmas baking scent.. That Noir Epices sounds very strange!
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post #9 of 12
10/27/10 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by Oslo-Fjord View Post

Yep, thats right. I`m not looking for a christmas baking scent.. That Noir Epices sounds very strange!

Thanks for clearing that up.
I can only speak about Noir Epices (which I own and love). Although it has prominent orange and clove notes, the staggering level of aldehydes seem to prevent it coming across as reminiscent of 'christmas baking'. To me it's more like a night sky - twinkly and cool.
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post #10 of 12
10/27/10 at 12:14pm
I will repeat my same point again. Spicy Christmas bakery? Frapin is the house you're looking for (unless you want those really cheesy smelling perfumes that actually smell exactly like a pound cake or something, try Lunableu or a similar house).

Caravelle Epicee is my favorite; It's boozy, spicy, and sweet.
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post #11 of 12
10/27/10 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by Ekove View Post

I will repeat my same point again. Spicy Christmas bakery? Frapin is the house you're looking for (unless you want those really cheesy smelling perfumes that actually smell exactly like a pound cake or something, try Lunableu or a similar house).

Caravelle Epicee is my favorite; It's boozy, spicy, and sweet.

I own Caravelle Epicee, but now I have it on my swap-list. It`s a nice scent, but in the latest stage of the dry down it smells like (on my skin) sharp body odor. It`s the cumin that ruins this fragrance for me. I love the top and the middle, but after that it only goes downhill..
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post #12 of 12
10/27/10 at 7:54pm
Noir Epices is one of those scents you must experience on your skin to understand. When I first wore it, I didn't like it - it smelled too powdery to me. But later on, I gave it another chance and something clicked that time. There is a very unique way that the citrus, geranium and spices combine in this - magical. Get a sample of it, and try it, if you can. If you like spicy scents, it is a must-try. And, while it does not conjure up the smell of Christmas, I do think it's appropriate to wear NE in cool weather.

Nothing, IMO, like Baume du Doge.
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