Dumbo is a Disney creation. Urban Musk is a Tom Ford creation. I wished I could flap my ears when I tried it, anything to fan away the odor of the elephant house. Yes, this was a big dumpy poo...
This fragrance gave me headaches and nausea. It smells like chemical liquorice. It reminds me also the candies in the drugstores. It's old-fashionned and not really wearable.
This Serge Lutens beauty is like a fresh gingerbread cookie or cake. Wore this one a few times,and it has a slight old school vibe (probably because of the ginger and cinnamon), which seems to be...
If you like Bath and Body Works' Midnight Pomegranate, (which is very popular), you will most likely like Viva La Juicy. I love both. There is a very caramel, praline deepness to both of them....
Well, not much to say about this, it's floral, it's fruity, it even has some "beach" feeling, but the game is too short and boring...how can they just think that someone would pay that price for...
Just out of curiosity, where did you download the dataset?
I didn't download it. I compiled it from numerous authorized retail stores and from friends' collections, as well as my own. I sorted them into two categories; "observed" and "reported." Only those that I have visually inspected go under the "observed" category. As you can imagine, most of the variation I've seen has been in the "reported" section. Nonetheless, the data collecting was the most tedious step.
Awesome research. Reminds me of cigar bulletin boards.
Oh don't get us started on fake Cubans...lol.
I'm just glad I have a good collection of friends who travel to Cuba and dont smoke. I can always send them some cash and direct them towards the Partagas factory.
Contribootin -- bear in mind I cannot recall the situation of purchase due to selective and/or failing memory.
Green Irish Tweed 4.0 -- REF 11120-32 LOT A3210F01
Royal Water 4.0 -- REF 561205 LOT A3610A01
Original Vetiver 4.0 -- A4009Y02
Tabarome 4.0 -- unmarked (sticker has fallen off box, too.)
Royal Water tester 2.5 -- REF 5607536 LOT A361B08
Royal Delight tester 2.5 -- REF 5607555 LOT CL1Q05
Silver Mountain Water tester 2.5 -- LOT S3509X02
Himalaya tester 2.5 -- A3909Y02
Royal Scottish Lavender 2.5 -- LOT CH22C06
Erolfa 2.5 -- LOT A3108E01
Green Irish Tweed 2.5 -- box marked 2002 in the date rectangle
Love In Black tester 2.5 -- REF 5607560 LOT C6008K01
Vanisia tester 2.5 -- REF 5607553F
Fleurs De Bulgarie tester 2.5 -- 56075-51 on box
This thread probably deserves to be stickied, considering the no. of posts wondering if their Creed is legit.
And somehow I don't see this sort of threads appearing in the Female Fragrance Discussion Boards.
I agree it should be stickied.
If anyone has any question if their creed is real....and you know they will!!....they can just read these posts and figure it out themselves.
This thread probably deserves to be stickied, considering the no. of posts wondering if their Creed is legit.
And somehow I don't see this sort of threads appearing in the Female Fragrance Discussion Boards.
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I agree it should be stickied.
If anyone has any question if their creed is real....and you know they will!!....they can just read these posts and figure it out themselves.
It doesn't really authenticate anyone's purchase though, it just identifies, well, the identity according to which scent and what time frame. As the thread notes, there are bottles without codes on them as well.
But to your point about a sticky, it would then more properly belong to the Basenotes FAQ forum, one of the top two on the index of forums page I think. No stickies about any certain house, please. We could all direct the newCreedworriers to the FAQ forum.
Definately an anomaly and outlier. I have it recorded.
Thanks for the info!
Keep it up, there is definitely something in your theories. Think there is a bit of 'randomness' about Creed e.g. a recent thread describing how they ran out of a certain colour cap and so used a different colour on some bottles of a particular fragrance (they confirmed it when the guy wrote to them regarding this). Also the box of my that has 2different lot nos, but the bottle inside just the one (printing error?).
FWIW the rear bottom lip of the GIT bottle is etched with the same lot no and it is a 75 ml (the other GIT is 120 ml).
btw if that is a batch number then this kinda sucks compared to the tester in the store....I tried this in the store and the store was sweeter...smoother. this bottle is kinda harsh and mega smokey. the fruity leaves it 5 min after applied.
I bought A42B10K03 from the Natick Neiman's, but I returned it today because it varied a lot from the tester, which is C4210E01.
The SA gave me the line about variability because of natural ingredients, but I eventually got a refund after they were unable to find a C4210E01 to exchange. They either didn't know about or acknowledge the signficant variability across batches.
A42B10K03 had more pineapple than C4210E01, although the dry down of A42B10K03 wasn't as nice as C4210E01. I got less citrus and more fig/blackcurrant apple in the C4210E01. I also had concerns about the intensity and longevity of A42B10K03 compared to C4210E01. I didn't want to gamble at 280 a pop, so I'll stick to my Himalaya for now.
Thanks to this forum for validating this significant and unacceptable variation.
Awesome Thread John! Just wanted to post the serial number for the MI flacon you participated in the split of. FP3310B01. From what you said the F is for flacon. The 33 for MI. 10 for 2010 and maybe B01 for batch 01? It is nice to finally have some clue what the numbers mean and makes it easier to see if a bottle is legit.
GIT flacon FP3209X01 Newer style clear flacon. I'm thinking made in 2009? If it was older juice, what would be the harm if it was sealed? I've read where Olivier suggests to purchase older bottles. Any comments or experience?
Fantastic research! Gotta love a man with passion!
Here's my stuff. Most of it comes from reputable online stores such as FragranceX. The only one I purchased in a 'real store' is GIT.
Acier Aluminium (75ml) C1008A01
Aventus (75ml) A4210G01C
Baie de Genièvre (75ml) A1207101
Green Irish Tweed (75ml) A3208E02 (authorised Creed outlet, Sydney Australia)
Green Valley (75ml) AH1T05 (on bottle and box)
Himalaya (75ml) A3909Y02 (tester)
Millésime Impériale (120 ml)\tbatch number removed
Orange Spice (75ml) C1808A01
Original Santal (120ml) AM1T05 (on bottle) AM1W05 (on box)
Royal Delight (75ml) AL2B06
Sélection Verte (250ml) on box: “fabriqué par fragrances production 77760 URY”
Silver Mountain Water (120ml) A3508G03
Vetiver (1948, 75ml) no batch number (tester)
Virgin Island Water (120ml) A626C08
Mine is the same except as your second pictured bottle it ends in 02. Is your juice fresh and good and long lasting? My bottle came from a guy who got his at Neiman Marcus
Doesn't look like John's commenting on this anymore but thought I'd ask anyway.....
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Originally Posted by JohnHarvard
From 2008 and on Creed used the 8-character lot number designation where the first letter (usually an "A") represents the house of Creed (some newer bottles seem to have a "C" which also stands for "C"reed).
What would be indicated if the first letter starts with an "S?"
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The 6th character is always a letter, and in all my data I've only seen either an: A, E, F, G, K, X, or Y.
Again, what would be indicated if the 6th character is an "S?"
my bottle I just bought today has 7 numbers so its earlier than 08? Should I exchange it for another? This is my first Creed purchase.
If it's a newer fragrance which isn't hard to find, then yes, I'd exchange it for a fresher bottle.
If it's one of the discontinued Creeds which is hard to find, then there's really no choice. If you want it badly enough, keep it. If not, send it back. I recently found a 4 oz bottle of Green Valley and it was from 2006. But I kept it because I really wanted the fragrance and it still smells great. No way I would have kept it, however, if it was still being produced.
If it's a newer fragrance which isn't hard to find, then yes, I'd exchange it for a fresher bottle.
If it's one of the discontinued Creeds which is hard to find, then there's really no choice. If you want it badly enough, keep it. If not, send it back. I recently found a 4 oz bottle of Green Valley and it was from 2006. But I kept it because I really wanted the fragrance and it still smells great. No way I would have kept it, however, if it was still being produced.
I'm beginning to think this batch thing is getting out of hand, no one is completely sure if the batch system here is correct, it just seems that way most of the time, but there seem to be all sorts of one-off variations to the rules. If it smells fine keep it. Unless it's skunked there is no reason to waste a bottle by returning it for some supposedly better newer batch. An older bottle can age beautifully, I have a 1999 bottle of Heritage I just got, it's prereformulation and it's fantastic. If you like it keep it.
I Just received a 4oz bottle of Creed Erolfa lot # S3110L01. I thought all Creed fragrances began with the letter A or C. The number on the ridge of this bottle is in ink as opposed to being etched. Does anyone have a bottle similar to this?
I'm beginning to think this batch thing is getting out of hand, no one is completely sure if the batch system here is correct, it just seems that way most of the time, but there seem to be all sorts of one-off variations to the rules. If it smells fine keep it. Unless it's skunked there is no reason to waste a bottle by returning it for some supposedly better newer batch. An older bottle can age beautifully, I have a 1999 bottle of Heritage I just got, it's prereformulation and it's fantastic. If you like it keep it.
Yeah, I think it's just a way to keep track of how old the bottle is, for the majority of the scents. Not much point in trying to note differences between "batches."
I Just received a 4oz bottle of Creed Erolfa lot # S3110L01. I thought all Creed fragrances began with the letter A or C. The number on the ridge of this bottle is in ink as opposed to being etched. Does anyone have a bottle similar to this?
Hi, I just purchased a bottle of Creed Millesime from overstock.com and the batch number is A3311N02. I'm wondering if the product is 100% authentic. Has anyone ever bought from overstock before? I noticed that the 6th number in the batch is an N and from reading that the 6th number is usually A, E, F, G, K, X, or Y I'm becoming skeptical. Can it maybe be that the 6th letter is an N becuase its an 2011 batch? Please help and reply with your opinions on if it is legit or not. Thank you.
I have:
2.5 oz Baie de Genievre lot CA21Z05 (also have an almost empty bottle with same #).
1 oz GIT lot S3211P01
1 oz MI lot IPAAD206
4 oz OV lot AK02S07
1 oz GV lot CH1W05
All lot #'s are on the boxes and bottles, OV and MI are etched on bottles all others are printed.
I have a Jasmal tester with the word Testeur and what looks like UA, something I can't make out, 58, and possibly T.
I have a 1 oz bottle of GV with no lot # on either box or bottle that I have had for at least five years and got from a reputable seller. I also have a 4 oz bottle of MI on which the gold covering on the bottle where the lot # was has flaked off and i no longer have the box. My final bottle is a 2.5 oz Royal Scottish Lavender tester with no lot #. All of my bottles I've had since before 2008 except for the GV that has a lot number and the GIT.
Actually didn't really realize I had this many Creeds until pulling them all out for this little exercise.
It was purchased from Beautyencounter and it doesn't smell good, but I'll be damned if the facts aren't pointing to it being legit. There is nothing in that code that screams "FAKE" to me.
Bare in mind that it doesn't smell horrible, but it does smell like an imitation of the intoxicating magic that is Royal Delight.
And none of this amazingly poor quality control and hours of confusing research to determine if you are buying a good or a crappy bottle of CREED concerns any of you??? I agree with someone else in another post. This could be the best marketing ploy I have ever seen. Creed purposely changes recipes of a few batches, causing endless numbers of followers to spend endless hours speculating, genius! free advertising...either that or morons working quality control.
I have been wondering if my git is a fake. If it was a fake, would the lot number work with the equation you presented? In other words, will the counterfeiters go to the trouble of making a lot number that work's with creeds lot number formula?
Give it some time. I've heard from secondary sources that Mr. Creed himself prefers "aged" batches over newer ones. I guess it's kind of like a wine, seeing that they're both comprised of organic ingredients.
For what it's worth, I think my new bottle of OV (A4009Y02), doesnt have the complexity of my older stock, but I'm not bothered and I still love it. I mean, I'm glad all my bottles of Bordeaux don't taste the same. There's something special about each one!