Have Guerlain Vetiver and Vetiver Extreme been repackaged?

Originally Posted by danho

Upon inspection, it appears that the large size of the new bottles are 100 ml, not 125 as with the ribbed bottles. The retail price will be the same, but you get 80% of the juice. That is lame if you ask me.

Originally Posted by Xen

Yes, it's reformulated. I did a side by side comparison yesterday with the penultimate version (there were so many reformulations it gets hard to keep track!) This latest reformulation smells 'wetter' and has a vegetal smell to it. It has taken away much of the citrus sparkle that used to make GV such an invigorating fragrance. The dry hay-like texture quality of the original has also disappeared. After sitting for an hour, the distinction becomes very evident. The original retains its bracing citrusy freshness while revealing its warmer woodsy undertones, the effect of which, is a lively contrast between freshness and warmth, harmony and disorder - this is what makes the modern GV intriguing to me. The vintage GV was beautiful for its sweet scent of earthy decay - peaceful and tranquil. I could appreciate the update, which, I thought, was a poetic in its own ways for oscillating between chaos and harmony, as our modern times often were. However, I cannot (at least for now) appreciate this latest update. It has evidently been stripped of most of the characterful notes in GV and had these gaps filled in with generic green notes (I suspect poor quality vetiver). Everytime I buy a Guerlain, I can tell they have changed their bergamot stock, and I get slightly disappointed. This time round, it hasn't only changed considerably (in terms of smell), but has also been added in much lesser quantities.
However, the purported 'petrochemical' note in the GVs all these years has been removed in this version. It also loses its discordant nature (which might have pleased some and put some off). For these reasons, I think the latest GV might appeal to some people but leave many more displeased.

Originally Posted by Matthew

Has anyone else compared these new versions yet?

Originally Posted by danho

Upon inspection, it appears that the large size of the new bottles are 100 ml, not 125 as with the ribbed bottles. The retail price will be the same, but you get 80% of the juice. That is lame if you ask me.

Originally Posted by germanomio

i saw that Spiritueuse now comes with the bottle of L'Art et la Matière line ...

Originally Posted by Corrado Finardi

dear all,
after a contact with Guerlain, they told me
"I inform you that the formula of VETIVER has not been modified. Formula loyalty is an essential principle of the Guerlain brand. It is the witness of the respect of quality, our clients and the deference due to the perfume-creator.

I find useful to give you information that can explain the fragrance evolution.
The stock period of the products may vary, however the one of the maceration remains unchanged. Great fragrances, like great wine, are made of natural substances. They evaluate with the time.
The product you recently bought has probably not the maturity you are used to have as it has been recently made".

Originally Posted by Corrado Finardi

It means that if the recipe stay unchanged, the concentration has been watered down without any doubt.

Originally Posted by Primrose

I like the older ribbed bottle.

As for Habit Rouge, the newer EDT with the silver cap has less citrus and more leather, to my nose.

The EDT in the gold cap seemed to have more citrus in the top notes.

Originally Posted by hey.its.me

nothing doin, this stuff won't even come off with gojo orange and everyone knows that stuff takes the hair off superman.

Originally Posted by Hey.its.me

As a new guy take this with a grain of salt. This is the only frag I've bought blind that I not only detest, I despise it. I got it mainly because of the hype and after all 'Hey Kennedy wore it'. The store only had one bottle left on the shelf and it was a sealed quart sized version. So she raked me over the coals on it. I got this stuff home opened the box and it was the ribbed bottle. So expecting it to be even better than Thierry Mugler I gave each wrist a good shot on each and let it evaporate before giving it a sniff. I can only tell you it really brought tears to my eyes and NOT in a good way either. I should have stopped reading at the Creed story that it was their version of vetiver that Kennedy wore. I figured that since summer was coming I could always use this to fool the mrs. pay the kid down the street to cut the lawn, spray some of this on while I listened to the ball game and drank beers. Nothing doin, this stuff won't even come off with gojo orange and everyone knows that stuff takes the hair off superman. So my only option now is to hold on to it in case we get invaded and use the stuff in chemical WARFARE. Perhaps the poster above is correct in that the people mixing the formulation varied the quantities I know that some of the Chinese have a problem with their Engrich... perhaps they have the same problem with their French conversions too.

Originally Posted by denondj

does it smell so different from old package? i found vetiver in a good price here but its that new bottle.

Originally Posted by Corrado Finardi

aFTER THE "TEST OF TIME":
I have to admit I WAS TOTALLY WRONG. guerlain has by far IMPROVED ITS VETIVER.
The new version is far better than the old one. I have 3 bottles (1 new, and 2 old-ribbed bottle). After many and many TESTING-times, I can assure that the new version has an higher overall quality and concentration.
Explication?
In fact, it is common at Guerlain to have EDP versions with more water than the EDT versions (consider also Heritage). This means they list water as third element in EDT BUT second in EDP.
new Vetiver is more long lasting than the previous, which was probably the "missing link" btween the traditional , old EDC and the new one, which in fact is more an EDP version (I have also Habit Rouge EDP, and believe me, vetiver edt lasts far longer).
HENCE, I bluntly admit that Terry Wasser is RIGHT when complaining about stupid blogger as me that sometime mover useless criticisms. However, the web allow for corrections. Here I am.
More transparency by producers however should be desirable, explaining better the new releases and the rationale and choices behind. Often the lack of such a transparency allow us to think bad things. Sometime they are right sometime wrong. In case of Guerlain, nice discover.
ps as a side note, I tested recently the new Eau pour Homme of Armani. Being skeptical at the beginning, for the "reformulation fear", I was pleased to learn that this new version is..... the same, minor a invisible part of clove which is presently out of time. The bergamot accord is apparently also brighter. I have to say,a after a side by side comparison that the winner is... the new one.

Originally Posted by Renaissance_Man

God knows what reformulation happened this time...I hope they don't mess it up more and more.