Originally Posted by phibess
I guess, we could go on like this forever... This was just a recent effort by two BNers to prompt/organize a small campaign in order to bring PPH back, it's the least thing anyone could do, send an email to P&G.. If you don't like the idea, fine but why come here and post all the negative comments - wouldn't sell, would be reformulated so f@ck it...not worth it etc. I don't refer to you personally...
Sure, some frags have been butchered, I could give you a list of frags that're still pretty good and would rather have these than none at all - Bois des Iles, Diorella...etc.
I don't think this thread creates any mystique in fact, tries the opposite. As for keeping the PPH secret to ourselves - that's a little absurd - this is a fragrance forum where ppl discuss frags and share their opinions. Cat's been out for years now and the prices have been rising for a long time.
I agree, nobody forces anyone to pay $1000 for a frag unless someone wants it bad cos they love it and can't find it elsewhere. Ppl who never tried PPH can always buy samples from PC for couple of bucks instead of dropping a grand on a blind buy.
Re Balafre - that was just an example. Dunno if it's still available at Lancome, a few years back it was, will find out next week in Paris. Same with PPH, I'll be visiting Osmotheque and will ask someone when it was discontinued.
Like you said, this is a discussion board and I'm just presenting my ideas. If you read my posts I wasn't being negative, I'm not seeking or engaging in an argument that would lock the thread, and I'd certainly enjoy a re-issued PPH (in the event such a thing would occur), I'm simply being realistic
and presenting my ideas for why such a re-issue is very unlikely. No hostility is intended or should be inferred.
My realistic approach/opinion is based on what I perceive to be a difference of perspective: For those like myself for whom vintage perfume is their primary (or only) interest in fragrance the rarity, and expense of Patou Pour Homme is typical of vintage I seek to purchase. There are literally hundreds - thousands - of beautiful vintage fragrances that are no longer being produced. Sourcing them requires patience, perseverance, and when you find them to buy them may require hundreds - or thousands - of dollars. A perfume you're looking for may appear once a year (or less) on eBay and if you don't act immediately to buy you may have to wait another year (or more). This is for the most part what it is to collect rare vintage perfumes
. Do you see vintage collectors writing letters to Patou to bring back Lasso
? How about to Lancome to bring back Fleches
? Or maybe we should write Guerlain to bring back Fol Arome
? All beautiful, all rare, all absurdly hard to find and expensive to source. It just is what it is. When I read someone wants to organize an email campaign
because the vintage perfume they enjoy is more rare and more expensive then they would like the vibe I get (and it's just
the vibe, no offense intended) is that they're not used to the reality of vintage perfume collecting.
If you really, really want PPH why not put the effort into finding a bottle? To find a PPH I spent months writing to vintage dealers and asking them to ask their vintage sources. I called mom & pops perfume shops across the planet, and I followed up on every lead. My efforts eventually yielded me a perfect, unused, rare 90ml bottle that wasn't cheap but nor was it anywhere near current prices. To me (and you can look at things differently), this is what you do
if you want to enjoy a rare vintage perfume. For myself I like to put the effort into getting a bottle instead of begging the company to make me a new one.
Now we can agree to disagree on whether we would an enjoy an inferior re-issue. Personally I think PPH is beautiful specifically because
of the ingredients it employs and how it is constructed using those ingredients. If it were to be remade with inferior materials and is only an approximation of what it once was then precisely what is the point? It would no longer be the same beautiful perfume. Since you brought it up, the 2010 version of Diorella is atrocious and doesn't deserve the name Diorella (IMHO) and I'd absolutely prefer it have been discontinued then bastardized. Diorella IS the melon/chypre topnotes and mossy drydown - without these it's not Diorella anymore. They're just using the old name to sell a new perfume. If PPH didn't have the depth of ingredients it just wouldn't be PPH anymore, it would be something else with the same name. But hey, if you have a different opinion you're of course welcome to it, but personally I can't see the point in having an inferior re-issue.
Before you accuse me of "being negative" my motivation writing this is not to be mean, but rather I'm just presenting my perspective.