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How can I love Paestum Rose?

post #1 of 27
7/8/11 at 7:09am
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I recently purchased Eau d'Italie's Paestum Rose, as I was very excited to find a dark rose scent. But after a generous wearing, I got a very strong vinegar like smell, which somewhat turned me off. Is there anything I can layer this with that will remove/reduce this excessive ''tartness'' and really bring out the rose note I was in search for?
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post #2 of 27
7/8/11 at 7:39am
This the exact thing that happened to me. Thank goodness I sampled this a few times before buying, as the first time I tried it, I loved it... Then, the pickles began their invasion.

In my experience it just gets more noticeable on each wearing; I'd trade it for another. The closest I know to Paestum minus the vinegar is Penhaglion's Elixir, but it's lighter and its own entity.
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post #3 of 27
7/8/11 at 7:44am
PS: This note is common in Duchaufour's fragrances, so keep that in mind with his other creations for Eau d'Italie, L'Artisan, Penhaglion's and others.
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post #4 of 27
7/8/11 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post

PS: This note is common in Duchaufour's fragrances, so keep that in mind with his other creations for Eau d'Italie, L'Artisan, Penhaglion's and others.

This is especially true for the Eau d'Italie line - nearly every frag in that lineup has a bitter, somewhat leathery and vinegary accord in it. Which is a shame really because if you subtract this accord from Paestum Rose, its a very good frag.
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post #5 of 27
7/8/11 at 8:17am
If you don't like it, then you don't like it. I would recommend to sell/swap it, and sample other rose fragrances - then make a purchase.

I absolutely love it myself - but I love pickles also.
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post #6 of 27
7/8/11 at 9:40am
For me it smells more to olive oil than to vinegar
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post #7 of 27
7/8/11 at 10:43am
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This is especially true for the Eau d'Italie line - nearly every frag in that lineup has a bitter, somewhat leathery and vinegary accord in it.

True.
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post #8 of 27
7/8/11 at 11:23am
Starts off promising but ends up a letdown. I find the rose a little too subdued for my taste, especially if you're after a dark rose.
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post #9 of 27
7/8/11 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post

PS: This note is common in Duchaufour's fragrances, so keep that in mind with his other creations for Eau d'Italie, L'Artisan, Penhaglion's and others.

While I agree with the above statement I think it's more related to those creations that Duchafour made for L'Eau D'Italie. I don't get the "viengar note" in Kyoto, Avignon or, let's say Amaranthine. I personally appreciate Paestum Rose but can't say I love it...if you're looking for a darker rose maybe you should swap PR with Portrait Of A Lady, Eau De Parfum De George Sand by MPG, Jardin Du Nil (maybe more "dirty" than really "dark"), Noir Epices or Black Aoud.
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post #10 of 27
7/8/11 at 11:57am
You're quite right about Amaranthine and Avignon, but it's also quite prominent in L'Artisan's Dzhongka and Nuit de Tubereuse; in fact it rendered them quite intolerable for me.
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post #11 of 27
7/8/11 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post

but it's also quite prominent in L'Artisan's Dzhongka .

Yeah, you're right. In Dzhongka I definitely get it, but it's more on the boozy side to my nose.
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post #12 of 27
7/8/11 at 1:09pm
Very funny thread. I am trying out Eau d'Italie (2005) by Eau d'Italie (B. Duchaufour) and am getting what must be the annoying pickle effect.
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post #13 of 27
7/8/11 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by DuNezDeBuzier View Post

Very funny thread. I am trying out Eau d'Italie (2005) by Eau d'Italie (B. Duchaufour) and am getting what must be the annoying pickle effect.

All this talk about pickles and making love..
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post #14 of 27
7/8/11 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post

This the exact thing that happened to me. Thank goodness I sampled this a few times before buying, as the first time I tried it, I loved it... Then, the pickles began their invasion...

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Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post

PS: This note is common in Duchaufour's fragrances, so keep that in mind with his other creations for Eau d'Italie, L'Artisan, Penhaglion's and others.

What he said ^
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post #15 of 27
7/8/11 at 3:53pm
Duchaufour isn't using this note so much lately, but it was common in his fragrances up to a few years ago. I can even smell it in Jubilation XXV.

I happen to like it myself, but TRY BEFORE YOU BUY.
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post #16 of 27
7/8/11 at 6:08pm
I love it, but dont own it yet.

Cmax...
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post #17 of 27
7/9/11 at 9:01am
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Are there any mass market fragrances marketed to men that have a very prominent rose note? I tried Ungaro III, but I am unsure about it. I would be interested in niche offerings as well, but sometimes they are difficult to come across in Toronto, and I am no longer willing to do a blind buy. Any suggestions?
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post #18 of 27
7/9/11 at 9:32pm
There are many rose prominent designer fragrances, but almost all of them are marketed to women. Which doesn't bother me, I wear what I like the smell of, regardless of who it is marketed to.

Seems like you're going to have to go for something niche (Black Aoud by Montale, No. 88 by Czech & Speake, Lyric for Men by Amouage and Rose 31 by Le Labo are all wonderful) or try a feminine (Cabaret by Gres or Stella by Stella McCartney).

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Are there any mass market fragrances marketed to men that have a very prominent rose note? I tried Ungaro III, but I am unsure about it. I would be interested in niche offerings as well, but sometimes they are difficult to come across in Toronto, and I am no longer willing to do a blind buy. Any suggestions?
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post #19 of 27
7/9/11 at 10:18pm
I love it.

I dont get the pickles note but I do get the spice accord and like it too. But its not pickl'y to me, more peppery.
Ill have to test it further but Im pretty sure I dont get a vinegar like essence either.

As diamondflame said, I also wish the rose was less subdued and more intense.
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post #20 of 27
7/9/11 at 10:20pm
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Are there any mass market fragrances marketed to men that have a very prominent rose note? I tried Ungaro III, but I am unsure about it. I would be interested in niche offerings as well, but sometimes they are difficult to come across in Toronto, and I am no longer willing to do a blind buy. Any suggestions?

Hermes Jardin Sur Le Toit is meant to be unisex.
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post #21 of 27
7/9/11 at 10:34pm
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Duchaufour isn't using this note so much lately, but it was common in his fragrances up to a few years ago. I can even smell it in Jubilation XXV.

I happen to like it myself, but TRY BEFORE YOU BUY.

He was big into incense notes back then...and I called him the King of Darkness. And then came the pickle and vinegar phase.

I would actually be interested in an incense + pickles composition by him. It will probably be as unwearable as sh*t, but will atleast be unique. Surround the incense+pickles heart with some chocolate gourmand top notes and a sugary Lutens base, and you have a tart attack waiting to happen..
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post #22 of 27
7/10/11 at 6:05am
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Originally Posted by dreamchaser View Post

Are there any mass market fragrances marketed to men that have a very prominent rose note? I tried Ungaro III, but I am unsure about it. I would be interested in niche offerings as well, but sometimes they are difficult to come across in Toronto, and I am no longer willing to do a blind buy. Any suggestions?


One of the strongest (and best) rose accords in designer masculine (in this case celebrity) fragrances is the discontinued Iquitos by Alain Delon.
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post #23 of 27
7/10/11 at 7:26am
Try Aramis 900 too.
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post #24 of 27
10/31/11 at 8:25am
I don't get this vinegary thing from Paestum Rose (I do from Bois d'Ombrie and Sienne L'Hiver, but i don't mind it), but my only issue with it is that the longevity is nonexistant on my skin
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post #25 of 27
10/31/11 at 10:49am
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I don't get this vinegary thing from Paestum Rose (I do from Bois d'Ombrie and Sienne L'Hiver, but i don't mind it), but my only issue with it is that the longevity is nonexistant on my skin

Spray with abundance.
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post #26 of 27
10/31/11 at 12:21pm
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Spray with abundance.

I always do : )
Will try applying over unscented body lotion
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post #27 of 27
10/31/11 at 1:33pm
I don't get a vinegar note at all. I think Paestum Rose is utterly beautiful. I place it up there with No.88 as one of my favourite rose/incense combinations.

If you decide you can't live with it, I'll happily buy it from you.
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