Splits policy revision 11/9/2012, UPDATE 3/26/13- PLEASE READ

Since decant sales are forbidden on Basenotes, any "bottle splits" must follow some guidelines:
All splits MUST be arranged and paid for in ADVANCE of the purchase with the cost of the bottle posted. Any new splitter with less than 500 posts(some who have been doing splits successfully prior to the rule change may continue to do so) may not start a split and anyone with less than 50 positive feedbacks may not post more than one split at a time. Anyone with any negative feedback may not post splits. The first split a new splitter attempts may not be for more than one split. No offering of the split after the bulk purchase will be allowed and and no resale of the splits will be allowed on Basenotes, as they are then considered to be decants. "Splits" are supposed to be a way for a prospective buyer to defray his/her costs by getting a small amount for themselves at cost. They are not supposed to be a profit making endeavor. Despite this fact, it is still in the thread starter's interest to see them completed. This policy will not please everyone, but unless someone can offer a reasonable alternative I will have to enforce this as stated. The bumping rules here should be less strict as the supposed lack of a profit incentive should keep things more reasonable than the sale board threads. Just to be fair to all however, I think posts such as "I wish I could get in on this but I can't" or "What color atomizer will I get?" should be relegated to PM's. Let's see how it goes. Thanks for your cooperation.


NOTE- if you claim a spot in a split and are not able to pay within several day as required by the splitter, please give all those involved the courtesy of a timely statement to that effect. If you fail to pay without notice, you may not be permitted to participate in splits in the future. Anyone committing to the last spot in a split and then backing out may not be permitted to participate in any other splits.

REVISION 9/8/2012:
30 ml. bottle must cost $90 | £56 or more, minimum split is 5 ml.
50 ml. bottle must cost $125 | £78 or more, minimum split is 10 ml.
60 ml. bottle must cost $150 | £93 or more, minimum split is 10 ml.
75 ml. bottle must cost $165 | £103 or more, minimum split is 15 ml.
100 ml. bottle must cost $200 | £125 or more, minimum split is 20 ml.
125 ml. bottle must cost $225 | £140 or more, minimum split is 25 ml.
150 ml. bottles must cost $250 | £156 or more, minimum split is 30 ml.
250+ ml. bottles must cost $350 | £218 or more, minimum split is 50 ml.

Any exceptions for smaller sized extremely expensive fragrances will be considered on a case-by-case basis. One split per fragrance is allowed until the first is completed, unless the first has a geographic restriction. Then a second split in a different restricted area would be allowed. If a fragrance is truly available in a given country at a higher price than in others, that country's price will be allowed to fit under the cost rules.

NOTE 7/19/2012- Although Basenotes has no responsibility to "fix" bad deals, we can put rules into place to somewhat protect members in the marketplace. Anyone subscribing to "offsite" deals is 100% on their own.

NOTE 8/31/2012- Leaving feedback here is no less important than in any other marketplace board. Please do so.

NOTE 11/9/2012- If you are considering offering a split (or splits), please do not do so if your job or personal life is so hectic as to prevent you from fulfilling the split in a timely manner. Splitters want people to pay promptly and subscribers want splitters to ship promptly. Anyone causing problems on either side may be subject to being put on the "split list". Despite the attempt at humor I believe everyone gets the idea.

NOTE 3/26/2013- Those offering splits offsite to avoid the requirements to do so here are collecting large amounts of money with little or no scrutiny. Splitter beware!

NOTE 4/10/13- Please see minimum post rule clarification above.

Please read revision regarding only one split thread per person.

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All splits offered as of today will be grandfathered in and all regular splitters will be exempt. Otherwise the new rule is in effect. As some splits involve thousands of dollars, it should not be surprising that some cautions are necessary. Splitters should indeed get the courtesy of positive feedback through the proper feedback link in their profile as opposed to posting in the split thread.

The new rule is not intended to stop splits midstream. It is intended to change policy going forward. Any existing splits that are not be in compliance will be watched carefully.

As fitch256 said "...decant" sales are more the selling of very small portions of juice, as small as a few ml's. The point of a split is for everyone to get a good sized amount of juice, as if they were to buy that amount in a store, but get it for less. "I know it does make it easier for us splitters to fill splits because you don't have to deal with waiting for a 250 ml bottle to fill while everyone's buying up little 5 ml portions. So at least for me, it makes my splits run much more smooth and efficiently." Basenotes does not allow decant sales. Allowing very small amounts to be offered could easily be construed as decant sales.

It is not a question of profit. Decant sales are forbidden here. Perhaps we should not allow any splits as they could all be construed as decant sales. What is semantics to you is an opportunity for others to get smaller amounts of otherwise cost prohibitive fragrances.

Split rules revision

New members please read

Although it is odd that an extrait would be sold in a very large size, there are two issues here. One is that the market for extraits is much smaller than for edp's, edt's etc. The second is that allowing small amounts of large bottles to be split can more easily be construed as decanting. I do not think allowing a bottle to be split into 20 parts is a wise thing for Basenotes.

As the original splitters here have been so good at advising me of concerns and violations, I apologize for not catching the several splitters who have done so in violation of the hosting requirements stated on 11/9/12. Several people with less than 500 posts have started splits. They have now been locked and any outstanding issues must be resolved privately by PM.

I have no recollection of that. Whereas the Basenotes Plus membership requirement may be enough to ensure some degree of integrity in selling/swapping/posting wants, it is a small price to pay to be allowed to collect large sums of money as splits involve. The rules were changed on 11/9/12 in an attempt to add some security by requiring more of an established membership as 500 posts does. Although not foolproof, it has added the intended benefit as some members have acknowledged joining Plus just to do splits.

Skyline- You posted in the rules thread. Your answers are all here.

I am sorry, but your proposed bottle does not cost enough to split.