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post #121 of 163
11/14/11 at 11:30am
"M7 (2002), rebaptized M7 Oud Absolu to stress its key component now that oud perfumes are amounting to a tidal wave on the landscape of contemporary perfumery. YSL visibly want to remind customers that they were early adopters and trend-setters."

ya think that is jibberish for re-formulation ...
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post #122 of 163
11/14/11 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by dollars&scents View Post

"M7 (2002), rebaptized M7 Oud Absolu to stress its key component now that oud perfumes are amounting to a tidal wave on the landscape of contemporary perfumery. YSL visibly want to remind customers that they were early adopters and trend-setters."

ya think that is jibberish for re-formulation ...

I agree, but if they wanted people to know they were the first they should release the original formulation in the original bottle and advertise that a "classic is back" and then actually sell it in the US again. Oh well...
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post #123 of 163
11/14/11 at 7:10pm
I wonder if this new M7, mk 3 is the same as mk 2? From the reviews thus far, it certainly sounds like it. Lucky, I have enough M7, mk 1 to last me for the next 5 years. And I recently backed-up Rive Gauche PH and Jazz.
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post #124 of 163
12/1/11 at 6:21am
Arguments and comparisons with the original, I sampled this at lunch today and loved it.
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post #125 of 163
12/12/11 at 10:46am
today I had a full wearing with the new M7 Oud absolu and I didn´t find significant differences with respect to the first reformulation. The smell is very similar if not identical, If you want : a little bit more restrained , but the differences were very insignificant.
The new Rive Gauche on paper also smell very similar to older formulations.
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post #126 of 163
12/12/11 at 11:14pm
well, i have two bottles of m7, one 100ml the other 50ml, both from 2003, i have worn them both, and also tested the new m7 against them. well, i have to say (i know i'll be killed for this) but i prefer the newer version. it is dryer, smokier, ashier, darker and also not as sweet as the original, maybe not as strong and 'in your face' as the original, the similarities are there but i personally think it's more refined. anyway, don't shoot the messenger, that's just my taste. i'll still love the original but now i have the new one as well to play with..
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post #127 of 163
12/13/11 at 2:11am
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Originally Posted by danny1967 View Post

well, i have two bottles of m7, one 100ml the other 50ml, both from 2003, i have worn them both, and also tested the new m7 against them. well, i have to say (i know i'll be killed for this) but i prefer the newer version. it is dryer, smokier, ashier, darker and also not as sweet as the original, maybe not as strong and 'in your face' as the original, the similarities are there but i personally think it's more refined. anyway, don't shoot the messenger, that's just my taste. i'll still love the original but now i have the new one as well to play with..

I fully understand what you say, danny.
I have two 100ml bottles of 2008 and wearing the new Oud Absolu yesterday, I did not feel at no time that it had anything to detract from older formulations.The new one keep the essence without losing one shred of their excellent quality.It seems to me slighty more carved, more polished, never worse.
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post #128 of 163
12/13/11 at 9:59am
Given that YSL added the label "Oud Absolu," did they amp up M7's oud note or is it just a marketing trick?
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post #129 of 163
12/13/11 at 1:51pm
I've tested the new one today.
Longevity is better than my old bottle.
It is drier, smokier, cleaner; the ugly sweetness is toned down, and the notes are better mixed than before, smooth fragrance but strong and long lasting.
This is a better M7, more mature.
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post #130 of 163
2/14/12 at 7:50pm
Well, I got a sample of M7 recently and just used it for the first time yesterday...I love the sweet cherry cough syrup opening (I guess I'm the only one?). The original M7's seem to be pretty pricey for a large bottle (anywhere from $70-$130), so I just ordered the oud absolu instead. Got a real good deal, only $54 for the 2.7oz (looks like it's one size only)...even if the sweet opening is gone I bet I will still enjoy it, as I enjoy the drydown of the M7 sample very much. I'll update when I get it

BTW, I wish some other houses would bring back some of their old stuff...mainly D&G By ^_^
or Gucci perhaps...they haven't been that great lately....Guilty \\ Guilty Intense were both dissapointing and "The One" isn't my cup of tea either.
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post #131 of 163
2/14/12 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by surge View Post

I love the sweet cherry cough syrup opening (I guess I'm the only one?).

I like it too. It's my favorite part, actually.
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post #132 of 163
2/14/12 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by surge View Post

...I love the sweet cherry cough syrup opening (I guess I'm the only one?). ...

Nah, yer most definitely not the only one. ~ I luv that sweet opening >>> all the way >>> right to the very last moment. There is not one single moment of this masterpiece that I do not enjoy. IMO it is still one of the v. best men's frags from the last decade. Hell, one of the best frags ever, full stop !! ...
(I do think they do differ a little. But they're close enough not to hamper enjoyment. If I couldn't have one I'd gladly take the other.)
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post #133 of 163
2/22/12 at 2:58pm
Damn...the opening of oud absolu is toned down a lot compared to orignal.
Oh well. I still enjoy the fragrance and don't regret the blind buy.
I was considering picking up Royal Oud from Creed providing I could find a good price on it, but now that I got this I'm not so sure I want to.
Any opinions / advice?
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post #134 of 163
7/6/12 at 6:48am
If you'd really like a watered down M7 but were worried the price you're paying simply wasn't enough then YSL have the answer!

For your pleasure I present, M7 Oud Absolu Crystal edition.

http://www.selfridges.com/en/Beauty/...3258-TGB22417/
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post #135 of 163
7/6/12 at 7:13am
Wow...L'Oreal is working wonders for YSL, huh? :-/
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post #136 of 163
7/6/12 at 7:36am
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Originally Posted by Kron View Post

For your pleasure I present, M7 Oud Absolu Crystal edition.

http://www.selfridges.com/en/Beauty/...3258-TGB22417/

Now I'm waiting for the Swarovski-Edition...
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post #137 of 163
7/6/12 at 12:10pm
To me m7 is a real gem but it is the oud dry down that makes it so special to me. How do the two dry downs compare. And since the original m7 is discontinued I must ask: is oud absolu a legitimate successor worthy of replacing the original?
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post #138 of 163
7/6/12 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by noirdrakkar View Post

To me m7 is a real gem but it is the oud dry down that makes it so special to me. How do the two dry downs compare. And since the original m7 is discontinued I must ask: is oud absolu a legitimate successor worthy of replacing the original?

Yes. IMHO, all the bashing is sort of ungrounded. But, again, it is my opinion: that does not invalidate other fellow BNoters opinions.
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post #139 of 163
9/21/12 at 3:46am
BUMP. Hello boys. I thought I would just chime in to say that I bought this. I have given it to my Mr to try and he's been wearing it the last week or so. It is gorgeous on him. Phwoar. Really solid stuff. Very attractive.

I don't think that it is VERY oudy though. It is orangey resinous, myrrh (and benzoin maybe?). A trace of oud, but not as smoky/rubbery as Oud Absolu suggests.

Wear it well!
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post #140 of 163
9/21/12 at 5:44am
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Originally Posted by Pollux View Post

Yes. IMHO, all the bashing is sort of ungrounded. But, again, it is my opinion: that does not invalidate other fellow BNoters opinions.

It have that great longevity and sillage of the original?
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post #141 of 163
9/21/12 at 6:23am
Foustie, I imagine you've actually smelled the original M7, yes ?? - (The one in the amber glass) ... If so, how does this one compare to the original - are there allot of differences to your nose ?? ... From what I've gathered the main difference is that this one is supposedly much fresher 'up top'. (Also apparently less 'sweet' too.) ... I'd luv to hear what u think, as this is probably still my No.1 all-time fave "woody" scent, & my original bottle (actually 3rd one already ) is again on it's very last drops. So I'm still wondering if this will do as a decent-enough replacement, or if I'm gonna have to go try source me yet another 'vintage' one somewhere. (fleabay i imagine)
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post #142 of 163
9/21/12 at 6:35am
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Originally Posted by Sybarite View Post

Foustie, I imagine you've actually smelled the original M7, yes ??

NOPE! I have not had that pleasure. You could bung me a drop if you get another vintage bottle!
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post #143 of 163
9/21/12 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by Sybarite View Post

Foustie, I imagine you've actually smelled the original M7, yes ?? - (The one in the amber glass) ... If so, how does this one compare to the original - are there allot of differences to your nose ?? ... From what I've gathered the main difference is that this one is supposedly much fresher 'up top'. (Also apparently less 'sweet' too.) ... I'd luv to hear what u think, as this is probably still my No.1 all-time fave "woody" scent, & my original bottle (actually 3rd one already ) is again on it's very last drops. So I'm still wondering if this will do as a decent-enough replacement, or if I'm gonna have to go try source me yet another 'vintage' one somewhere. (fleabay i imagine)

I actually find the opposite true: the opening only differs slightly (M7 being a little fuller due to its sweet underpinnings), while the drydown of vintage M7 is very sweet amber (about 8 hours in being entirely vanilla and musk) and the drydown of Oud Absolu is dry myrrh, patchouli, cedar and oud. That sweet amber was a dealbreaker for me in M7, while the dry Oud Absolu drydown appeals to me a lot. I prefer OA by far. (I could see someone who loves sweet vanilla/amber having the opposite preference.)
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post #144 of 163
9/21/12 at 10:29am
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Originally Posted by Foustie View Post

[snip] You could bung me a drop if you get another vintage bottle! ...[snip]

I most certainly could do that yep ! ~ Which would be great coz you could then do a 'side-by-side' comparison test for us, & maybe then we'll finally be able to get a definitive answer as to the 'yay' or 'nay' of M7 vs. O.Abs' !?. - (which I at very least would very much welcome

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Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post

...[snip] ... (I could see someone who loves sweet vanilla/amber having the opposite preference.)

Which I am indeed quite partial to, so I could see that happening ! ... However, I'm also not averse to even "more dry & oudy" either, so I could easily prefer that too - damn !

But thanx MB' - you have indeed made it sound like there is after all a considerable difference between the two, so much so that it's entirely possible for one to even like one and not the other. ... (And it seems u confirm too that there's also allot more Oud in the new one (?) - Now that is welcome news indeed !) ...

... It seems I may just very well need a bottle of each then
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post #145 of 163
9/21/12 at 11:21am
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Originally Posted by Sybarite View Post

(And it seems u confirm too that there's also allot more Oud in the new one (?) - Now that is welcome news indeed !)

Hm, I'm not sure about the oud content, since the other base notes surrounding it differ so significantly. My estimate is that OA has the same or slightly more than vintage M7.

For reference, I have not tried reformulated M7.

I think BNers have confused things on the forums by suggesting that OA is a reformulated M7. IMO it's a full-fledged flanker, just as much as M7 Fresh is.
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post #146 of 163
9/21/12 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post

...[snip] ... I think BNers have confused things on the forums by suggesting that OA is a reformulated M7. IMO it's a full-fledged flanker, just as much as M7 Fresh is.

Now this is real interesting, and even more suggestion that they are indeed different. I mean flankers (like M7 Fresh) differ significantly from the original.

BUT as far as their press release (& the entire 'raison d'être' or 'character' of this entire collection - which is supposed to be re-releases of past discontinued classics (& not 'flankers' or different formulations), Oud Absolu was indeed supposed to be the same fragrance as M7, just re-released in a different bottle. (As the rest of them are respectively). ...
So yeah, more of "a reformulation" (if not exactly the same thing) would make more sense than it being a "different flanker" altogether. (Otherwise why bother announcing you're re-releasing old classics.)

So I certainly don't blame the confusion. (And still don't think it's supposed to be a 'flanker' - tho' from what you've said about it and it's obvious differences, it's certainly starting to sound more like one, than what's it's meant to be. (Which was, as they declared it, as just a slightly 'tweaked' M7 with a deepened oud note.)

Confusing indeed ! ......
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post #147 of 163
9/21/12 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by Sybarite View Post

So I certainly don't blame the confusion. (And still don't think it's supposed to be a 'flanker' - tho' from what you've said about it and it's obvious differences, it's certainly starting to sound more like one, than what's it's meant to be. (Which was, as they declared it, as just a slightly 'tweaked' M7 with a deepened oud note.)

To be fair, M7 Fresh differs from original M7 a lot more than OA does.

However, that "slight tweak" (to some marketing person's nose) was a "major base accord refactor" to mine, and made all the difference in the world -- OA being FBW for me, and M7 not.
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post #148 of 163
9/21/12 at 1:43pm
I need to smell this... I didnt LOVE M7, it was okay, but I DO love OUD, so maybe the end result will be something more up my alley. Anyone who has some and would like to arrange a sample swap, I have some great oud scents and a ton of others as well. PM me.
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post #149 of 163
9/21/12 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by walkdogg View Post

I need to smell this... I didnt LOVE M7, it was okay, but I DO love OUD, so maybe the end result will be something more up my alley. Anyone who has some and would like to arrange a sample swap, I have some great oud scents and a ton of others as well. PM me.

It's still quite similar to M7, just with the volume turned down and the lovely basenotes of the original taken away. I really wouldn't bother, the 'Oud' in the name is something of a red herring here.
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post #150 of 163
9/21/12 at 7:21pm
Sampled it last month and quite liked it. My expectations were low from the start with all the negative reviews. Much easier to wear in the hotter months, but it does lack the depth of the original in the dry down. I never cared for the cherry cough syrup opening so there was no loved lost there, but the dry down of M7 is superb. What upsets me the most is the fact M7, M7 Fresh, and this one are so expensive and hard to find. Instead I get L'homme Libre shoved down my throat.
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post #151 of 163
9/21/12 at 7:44pm
Looking forward to it
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post #152 of 163
9/21/12 at 8:26pm
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Originally Posted by d4N13L View Post

It have that great longevity and sillage of the original?

On me it works better than the original: let me explain, on me, the original is subdued upon application until time passes, then it begins to project, I would not say in a notorious way. On the other hand, the new one is more clear, transparent, it feels more balanced.

Again, my opinion. I am pretty sure many won't agree with me.
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post #153 of 163
11/29/12 at 7:28am
I disagree with all ferocious critics: substantially, the M7 Oud Absolu is not a piece of junk but almost the same of the reformulated M7, the only main difference is the lacking of the famous/infamous cherry syrup opening. Not an extraordinary scent , but an adequate one. The oud is entirely synthetic here but it's pleasant to smell.
In a few words: The M7 "toned-down".
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post #154 of 163
12/18/12 at 4:23pm
Wore this today. My wife and I both loved it. Very smooth.
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post #155 of 163
12/19/12 at 7:09am
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Originally Posted by tyler-durden View Post

Arguments and comparisons with the original, I sampled this at lunch today and loved it.

yes, the cough syrup note went down, oud risen up!

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Originally Posted by Andrè Moreau View Post

I disagree with all ferocious critics: substantially, the M7 Oud Absolu is not a piece of junk but almost the same of the reformulated M7, the only main difference is the lacking of the famous/infamous cherry syrup opening. Not an extraordinary scent , but an adequate one. The oud is entirely synthetic here but it's pleasant to smell.
In a few words: The M7 "toned-down".

you got it!
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post #156 of 163
12/19/12 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by ChuckW View Post

Wore this today. My wife and I both loved it. Very smooth.

Having bought it recently, I'm really enjoying it. I can't stop smelling myself when I wear it.
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post #157 of 163
12/19/12 at 11:19am
Been wearing this one all week now and finally had enough juice to give it a good testing. Seems to bridge the gap between M7 Fresh and M7 Reform (not the vintage). Since both of these are discontinued it's nice to have both in one package. Problem is that it's not better than either one.
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post #158 of 163
1/17/13 at 8:48pm
Just noticed that the far drydown is a good dose of nearly pure Iso E.
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post #159 of 163
2/4/13 at 9:41am
any new thoughts on this?
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post #160 of 163
2/4/13 at 9:50am
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Originally Posted by joov84 View Post

any new thoughts on this?

It's still very good.
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post #161 of 163
2/4/13 at 10:23am
Nothing new, It's still a keeper in my book,
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post #162 of 163
2/4/13 at 10:24am
Anybody in the UK willing to swap a sample of this for something that I have in my collection?
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post #163 of 163
2/4/13 at 10:26am
I like it quite a bit. If you are an M7 purist, and only like the original M7, you might want to pass on this. But if you like the M7 reformulation, you will probably like M7 Oud Absolu.

I own both the reformulated M7 and Oud Absolu and find them to be pretty interchangeable.
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