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post #61 of 121
11/9/11 at 3:16am
Britney Spears Fantasy or Queen by Queen Latifah for me. When I wear these I take my bra off and let my boobies bounce!
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post #62 of 121
11/9/11 at 3:23am


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post #63 of 121
11/9/11 at 4:03am
Absolue pour le soir-MFK(has a bit of a "nail polish" scent) a great scent IMO
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post #64 of 121
11/9/11 at 4:15am
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Ludlow View Post

While it's trivially true that fragrances have no genitalia in vacuum (pun kind of intended), they do in our culture to a certain extent. One might not care about this, which is obviously fine, but to imply that the question is not valid because a fragrance in itself does not have gender is quite restrictive in my opinion. While I do understand this attitude, all it really does is destroy one legit branch of conversation.

Anyway, Shalimar and Carnal Flower I wear with confidence, but wouldn't wear certain florals heavy on aldehydes. For me No. 5 is very feminine. It's cultural, yes, so what? Sphere of culture is real, for us atleast. Clothes have no genitalia either, I still wouldn't feel too comfortable wearing a dress.


Well said. Absolutely spot on.
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post #65 of 121
11/9/11 at 5:26am
Musc Ravaguer and Absolue pour le soir.
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post #66 of 121
11/9/11 at 6:56am
Comme des Garçons Red Carnation is said to be unisex--I am trying to build up my swag to wear it! For a similar carnation-y thrill, try the feminine Opium (pre-reformulation).
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post #67 of 121
11/9/11 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Ludlow View Post

While it's trivially true that fragrances have no genitalia in vacuum (pun kind of intended), they do in our culture to a certain extent. One might not care about this, which is obviously fine, but to imply that the question is not valid because a fragrance in itself does not have gender is quite restrictive in my opinion. While I do understand this attitude, all it really does is destroy one legit branch of conversation. ..... Clothes have no genitalia either, I still wouldn't feel too comfortable wearing a dress.

Good point! Of course in Scotland, men do wear kilts- but then, maybe they are more like a skirt than a dress...
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post #68 of 121
11/9/11 at 11:18am
Carnal.
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post #69 of 121
11/9/11 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by hobbes22 View Post

I don't think Carnal Flower is hard to pull off for a guy.

Me neither, its my bf's after shower fresh fragrance.

For me (as a woman) these are some of my regular fragrance staples:
Fille En Aiguilles
Yatagan
Tribute
Memoir Man
Micallef's and Le Labo's: Gaiac
Tirrenico
Sel Marin
Real Patchouli
Mecca Balsam
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post #70 of 121
11/9/11 at 1:11pm
I often wear Penhaligon's Night Scented Stock and Habanita.
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post #71 of 121
11/9/11 at 2:30pm
Unisex: Original Vetiver, Chevrefeuille Original
Feminine: Coco EDT, Tommy Girl







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http://frompyrgos.blogspot.com/
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post #72 of 121
11/9/11 at 4:05pm
I don't actually wear many things that were intended as unisex, so in that sales category ... Musc Ravageur? When it comes to fragrances intended to be sold to women: L'Heure Bleue.
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post #73 of 121
11/9/11 at 4:26pm
Black Orchid, also coincidentally my SOTE

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post #74 of 121
11/9/11 at 4:39pm
I didn't even realize Black Orchid was a female-marketed scent. The other day I was shopping in the PX at a military base and it was a) in the men's section b) sold out.
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post #75 of 121
11/9/11 at 5:34pm
Hmmm, was always under the impression that it was feminine, as listed in the directory, but it could be unisex as well!

http://www.basenotes.net/ID26125725.html
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post #76 of 121
11/10/11 at 5:48am
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Originally Posted by JakeStiebs View Post

Van Cleef & Arpels - Midnight In Paris

Same for me.
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post #77 of 121
11/10/11 at 5:53am
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post #78 of 121
11/10/11 at 6:41am
Sa Majeste la Rose by Serge Lutens.
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post #79 of 121
11/10/11 at 7:34am
Wow, I haven't seen a feminines worn by men thread in a couple of weeks. It used to be a daily thing around here. I regularly wear Shalimar, Jicky, Eau des Iles, Bois d'Armenie; occasionally I wear other scents that people might consider feminine as well... I find Shalimar to be at least as "masculine" in smell as Pi or Jaipur personally.

Also, it's not quite as easy to put scents and clothes in the same gender category. Many so-called "feminine" scents smell much more masculine on a man's skin. A dress doesn't mix with a man's musk and change in character like a scent can. If I smell Sous le Vent on me and on my sister side by side they smell like two completely different scents.
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post #80 of 121
11/10/11 at 7:42am
Midnight in Paris
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post #81 of 121
11/10/11 at 7:59am
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Originally Posted by mrclmind View Post

Also, it's not quite as easy to put scents and clothes in the same gender category. Many so-called "feminine" scents smell much more masculine on a man's skin. A dress doesn't mix with a man's musk and change in character like a scent can. If I smell Sous le Vent on me and on my sister side by side they smell like two completely different scents.

Please stop trying to be reasonable/factual. These discussions do not allow for that.
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post #82 of 121
11/10/11 at 8:02am
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Originally Posted by petruccijc View Post

please stop trying to be reasonable/factual. These discussions do not allow for that.

lol
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post #83 of 121
11/10/11 at 9:17am
Ok, I'm not sure what you guys are referring to, but...

mrcImind, I just came up with an analogy; by no means meant to be taken that literally. But you are of course right.

petruccijc, you comment on how mrcImind is reasonable and factual, implying the guy who brought up this issue in the first place isn't. If that's what you think, just say so. Your post just seems condenscending and that's very annoying.
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post #84 of 121
11/10/11 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Ludlow View Post

Ok, I'm not sure what you guys are referring to, but...

mrcImind, I just came up with an analogy; by no means meant to be taken that literally. But you are of course right.

I understand you were using an analogy... I've seen the same one brought up time and again on these discussions regarding gender. I just don't think it's an apt analogy. Scent changes when it's worn. Clothes don't. Just my 2 cents. I wasn't trying to argue with you, just participating.
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post #85 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Ludlow View Post

Ok, I'm not sure what you guys are referring to, but...

mrcImind, I just came up with an analogy; by no means meant to be taken that literally. But you are of course right.

petruccijc, you comment on how mrcImind is reasonable and factual, implying the guy who brought up this issue in the first place isn't. If that's what you think, just say so. Your post just seems condenscending and that's very annoying.

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Originally Posted by mrclmind View Post

I understand you were using an analogy... I've seen the same one brought up time and again on these discussions regarding gender. I just don't think it's an apt analogy. Scent changes when it's worn. Clothes don't. Just my 2 cents. I wasn't trying to argue with you, just participating.

I was just trying to have some fun with mrclmind - I really didn't even know or remember who said what. But I do agree with him - I personally don't see how they are the same thing.
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post #86 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:14am
Oh, ok. I have never participated in such discussions.

I agree it's not an accurate analogy at all, but it wasn't meant to be. I wanted to state the obvious: that although fragrances and clothes have no genitalia, gender in both cases exist on a cultural level and thus discussing it might make sense. They are analogous only at this very general level. My post was aimed at the attitude that scents doesn't have gender and that's all there is to it. I just happen think one can say more about this subject, that's all.

I fully understand your frustration if this topic comes up over and over again and the points are always the same ones. I also already feel kind of bad that I got offended by petruccijc. He probably didn't direct it to me at all, but to this topic in general. Silly me.
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post #87 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:16am
Johnny, for what it's worth I can see your point exactly. I thought it was highly reasonable and quite factual actually.

Folks, I think that the man was making examples of preconceptions, even the preconceptions of one's own mind. I agree that it may be wrong to have them, but they exist whether we like it or not. To that end, how a scent smells on different skins/genders is not the issue.
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post #88 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by jcrich View Post

Johnny, for what it's worth I can see your point exactly. I thought it was highly reasonable and quite factual actually.

Folks, I think that the man was making examples of preconceptions, even the preconceptions of one's own mind. I agree that it may be wrong to have them, but they exist whether we like it or not. To that end, how a scent smells on different skins/genders is not the issue.

I wasn't trying to be antagonistic. I was just trying to add to the conversation. I thought perhaps I had a relevant point of view.
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post #89 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Ludlow View Post

Oh, ok. I have never participated in such discussions.

I agree it's not an accurate analogy at all, but it wasn't meant to be. I wanted to state the obvious: that although fragrances and clothes have no genitalia, gender in both cases exist on a cultural level and thus discussing it might make sense. They are analogous only at this very general level. My post was aimed at the attitude that scents doesn't have gender and that's all there is to it. I just happen think one can say more about this subject, that's all.

I fully understand your frustration if this topic comes up over and over again and the points are always the same ones. I also already feel kind of bad that I got offended by petruccijc. He probably didn't direct it to me at all, but to this topic in general. Silly me.

Johnny - This topic has probably comes up the most on BN (well maybe second after DHI reformulations). We all have our opinions on it. I wear what I like and makes me happy - and so should everyone else.

But I personally don't care about marketing, labels, what other people think, etc. If it smells good to me, I will wear it. One day I could wear Mazzolari Lui and the next day Chanel No 5. But that's just me....
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post #90 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:30am
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Ludlow View Post

Oh, ok. I have never participated in such discussions.

I fully understand your frustration if this topic comes up over and over again and the points are always the same ones. I also already feel kind of bad that I got offended by petruccijc. He probably didn't direct it to me at all, but to this topic in general. Silly me.

It's not a problem. Like I always say, "it's just perfume, don't take it too seriously."
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post #91 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:33am
No need to play the victim, Guy. Nothing personal meant to either you or Joe.

I'm just saying that out of all of these usual threads, I think this is one of the better thought out ones. No-one is denying anyones's right to wear anything, but some of us, and I agree that I am one of them, are sensitive to being perceived as feminine. If that makes me insecure, so be it, but no one can deny that these feelings are prevalent in society. Not on here on BN, I grant you.

There are, however, sometimes comments posted on this type of thread that could be construed as being condescending. If I am wrong in my interpretation of these type of comments, then I apologize to one and all, unreservedly.
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post #92 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:36am
I believe there is one fragrance that does have genitalia, Le Male (unless that is a sock).
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post #93 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by jcrich View Post

No need to play the victim, Guy. Nothing personal meant to either you or Joe.

I'm just saying that out of all of these usual threads, I think this is one of the better thought out ones. No-one is denying anyones's right to wear anything, but some of us, and I agree that I am one of them, are sensitive to being perceived as feminine. If that makes me insecure, so be it, but no one can deny that these feelings are prevalent in society. Not on here on BN, I grant you.

There are, however, sometimes comments posted on this type of thread that could be construed as being condescending. If I am wrong in my interpretation of these type of comments, then I apologize to one and all, unreservedly.

I thought I had a good point, and I thought I made my point without any kind of condescension, but you saying that I'm playing the victim when I'm simply trying to be diplomatic rather than argumentative actually comes off as being such to me. I don't appreciate it at all.
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post #94 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:49am
Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. I meant no offence, and as I said, if I read things wrong, then I apologise.

Would you not agree though that posts 81 and 82 might not be viewed that way?
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post #95 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:56am
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Originally Posted by Rüssel View Post

I believe there is one fragrance that does have genitalia, Le Male (unless that is a sock).


Here's another one that does. Heros by Didier Calvo
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post #96 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by jcrich View Post

Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. I meant no offence, and as I said, if I read things wrong, then I apologise.

Would you not agree though that posts 81 and 82 might not be viewed that way?

Absolutely not. He was making a joke with me, and I laughed. petruccijc and I were directing our posts at each other and not at the expense of anyone else I might add. You assumed that we were directing it at someone else, but we weren't. But your snarkey comment was directed specifically at me. I don't know why you decided to be rude to me, but I really can't stand that kind of thing. I never do it here and I don't deserve that BS at all.
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post #97 of 121
11/10/11 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by jcrich View Post

Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. I meant no offence, and as I said, if I read things wrong, then I apologise.

Would you not agree though that posts 81 and 82 might not be viewed that way?

I wasn't trying to be condescending - and I apologize to you or anyone else who took it that way.
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post #98 of 121
11/10/11 at 11:00am
Guys, this started with me taking it all wrong. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to cause controversies just for the sake of it, but if something feels unfair to me, I feel I have to say something about it. In this case I just misinterpreted Joe's post. These things happen.

At the moment we are just talking past each other. Me and jcrich are discussing this issue from a different angle; I don't think there is any real disagreement here. I really appreciate both of you and your views. I also think it's cool that people here are so sensitive, that we often feel the need talk these things through. I'm absolutely certain that nobody meant to offend anyone in this discussion.

Let's move on.
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post #99 of 121
11/10/11 at 11:05am
Sorry Guy, but It wasn't directed specifically at you. I mentioned one and all.

Let's leave it to others to make their own minds up.

Peace.
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post #100 of 121
11/10/11 at 11:13am
Thank you Joe. I apologise too, and to Guy.
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post #101 of 121
11/10/11 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Ludlow View Post

Guys, this started with me taking it all wrong. I'm not the kind of guy who wants to cause controversies just for the sake of it, but if something feels unfair to me, I feel I have to say something about it. In this case I just misinterpreted Joe's post. These things happen.

At the moment we are just talking past each other. Me and jcrich are discussing this issue from a different angle; I don't think there is any real disagreement here. I really appreciate both of you and your views. I also think it's cool that people here are so sensitive, that we often feel the need talk these things through. I'm absolutely certain that nobody meant to offend anyone in this discussion.

Let's move on.

I never had a problem with what you said. I had another point of view that was equally valid. What is not OK is to have an insult hurled directly at me, unprovokded by jcrich. That was out of line, and his apology "I'm sorry if you feel that way" is not an apology. Sorry, but I'm very careful to be kind on these boards, and that kind of comment toward me is completely uncalled for.
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post #102 of 121
11/10/11 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by jcrich View Post

Thank you Joe. I apologise too, and to Guy.

Thank you. BTW, people probably don't know my name here, so it's usually best to direct conversations with screen names on the boards as a general rule. FWIW the comment I took offense to was that I was playing the victim. That seemed over the top condescending to me.
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post #103 of 121
11/10/11 at 11:20am
To name a few...

from By Kilian: Liaisons Dangereuses
from Bond No. 9: The Scent of Peace, Nuits de NoHo, I Love NY for All
from Byredo: Bal D'Afrique, Pulp
from Acqua di Parma: Mandorlo di Sicilia
from Kiehl's: Original Musk
from Frederic Malle: L'Eau d'Hiver
from Creed: Love In Black, Virgin Island Water

And anything from the Fresh, Diptyque and Jo Malone lines...
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post #104 of 121
11/10/11 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by eMCizzle View Post

from Frederic Malle: L'Eau d'Hiver

This one is simply too good to be labeled only for women or for men.
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post #105 of 121
11/10/11 at 12:42pm


Green Oakmoss by independent perfumer Liz Zorn. It rides that line between Masc and Feminine.

I get way too many compliments from both sexes about it to ever stop wearing it.
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post #106 of 121
11/10/11 at 1:43pm
Diorella
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post #107 of 121
11/10/11 at 2:21pm
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Diorella

Love it!

Welcome to Basenotes!
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post #108 of 121
11/10/11 at 2:37pm
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I personally would be more comfortable in a dress than I would be wearing Chanel No. 5 or similar. That kind of scent, to me at least, is strictly for the ladies. Aldehydes and sweet florals are too feminine for many women, even.

That said, I don't mind a little Shalimar or Jicky. And I found myself, despite prior skittishness, enjoying e.g. La Fleur du Male enough to buy a full bottle.
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post #109 of 121
11/10/11 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by Korben View Post

Same for me.

That's 3 guys on this thread. It's a great frag.
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post #110 of 121
11/10/11 at 4:14pm
Black Aoud - Montale

Takes some swagger for sure
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post #111 of 121
11/10/11 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by hobbes22 View Post

I don't think Carnal Flower is hard to pull off for a guy. I had a girl friend say she couldn't imagine a woman wearing it actually (which I thought was strange).

I'm not even sure what counts as unisex. I wear Scent Intense, Jicky, Sycomore, Ambre Sultan, and Chanel Cuir de Russie - I can't imagine any of them being marketed only to women.

In fact, I'm surprised by all the Cuir de Russie comments. Does this come across as feminine to some? It smells like really dirty leather to me, I don't find it feminine at all.

couldn't imagine it being worn by a woman ? wow - that's pretty strong.
i agree re: what is 'unisex', i'm not sure there IS a line anymore.
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post #112 of 121
11/10/11 at 7:18pm
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Originally Posted by Le Grand Duc View Post

It's just, most 'ladies frags' smell a hell of a lot
better than the male ones.
But, as many here, I don't believe in male/female
within the world of fragrances.

Very curious. You effectively say that there's no such thing as masculine and feminine fragrances, but also say that most feminine fragrances smell a hell of a lot better than the masculine ones.

Regardless of the fact that I think the opposite, doesn't your assertion indicate that for you at least (and for me) there indeed is such a thing as masculine and feminine fragrances?
Cheers,
Renato
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post #113 of 121
11/10/11 at 7:48pm
thread is.....AWKWARD!!!!!!!!
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post #114 of 121
11/10/11 at 7:50pm
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Originally Posted by cameron View Post

thread is.....AWKWARD!!!!!!!!

In what way?
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post #115 of 121
11/10/11 at 8:24pm
Rose Oud By Kilian.

Wearing it today, yummmmmm.... it is definitely fem leaning but I like it.
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post #116 of 121
11/10/11 at 8:46pm
You guys need to man up!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think im going to try on TF Violet Blonde tomorrow.
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post #117 of 121
11/10/11 at 9:06pm
Three scents that are great for men marketed to women:

(very girly bottles to get over)

Womanity by Mugler: salty fig

Ma Dame by Gaultier: rose with cedar

Si Lolita by Lolita Lempicka: spicy accords, bergamot, mandarin, pink pepper, sweet peas, elemi, patchouli, tonka, amber
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post #118 of 121
11/10/11 at 9:09pm
Royal Water by Creed
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post #119 of 121
11/10/11 at 9:11pm
How come this thread has been hijacked?

The OP specifically asked about which UNISEX scents guys felt pushed the limit, not about which feminine scents can be worn.

The Basenotes directory has a huge number of scents in the "Shared" category, but very few of them have gotten a mention.
Regards,
Renato
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post #120 of 121
11/10/11 at 9:14pm
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

How come this thread has been hijacked?

The OP specifically asked about which UNISEX scents guys felt pushed the limit, not about which feminine scents can be worn.

The Basenotes directory has a huge number of scents in the "Shared" category, but very few of them have gotten a mention.
Regards,
Renato

Oh, sorry. CK One then.
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