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post #1 of 31
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I really like Burberry London. I have the original, with its accompanying aftershave and shower gel. I also have the Special Edition flanker from 2008. But the longevity and projection are confounding me.

As an experiment, I've been gradually increasing the number of sprays I use to see what it's going to take to beef up this fragrance. The other day, I used a total of 12 sprays: 2 on each arm, 3 on my neck, 3 on my chest and 2 my tee shirt. The good news is that it did increase the longevity to a reasonable 8+ hours, from a pitiful 3-4 hours with only 3 sprays. The bad news is that one hour after application, my girlfriend couldn't smell it from 2 feet away.

It would be nice if it would project a bit more, although I also appreciate the value of a more polite sillage. The problem is more that, at this rate, I'm going to rip through the bottle in no time. Not really very economical and I feel like I'm forcing it.

Any thoughts or comments?
post #2 of 31
Same problem here. I followed some recommendations that I found here and was pleased with the results to a degree.

Try shifting more of your sprays on to your clothes. This will increase longevity with less sprays. I am afraid projection isn't very good on this one for me either - so I don't know what to say there. See if that helps!
post #3 of 31
Isn't it truly sad when you love a frag and it barely lasts. I feel your pain brother. One would think that if you were in the frag business that you may want to make a frag that actually sticks to the skin a reasonable amount of time. I just don't get it and frankly it sends a negative "cheap" vibe to me about the Burberry brand ... I won't wear Burberry London because it simply does not last unless you pour half the bottle on you.
post #4 of 31
I guess, at least to my nose, Burberry London is more of a "light on the trigger-scent" (and, trust me, I'm a rather "heavy sprayer", even when it comes to powerhouses, sillage/longevity/projection bombs etc.)
post #5 of 31
London longevity on me is very poor too. Try to get some Mugler Pure Havane
post #6 of 31
I guess people's skin chemistry must have something to do with it as I don't seem to have any problem with longevity. Three sprays last me my entire work day.
post #7 of 31
I have this issue as well with many colognes. My skin simply drinks it. But some are worse than others. London, unlike it's brother Brit seems to be a problem for many. There's only one way for me and this is my suggestion to you. Instead of using a dozen sprays to start, just use 6 or 7 (I know it's still a lot), carry an atomizer and layer it every couple hours with a few more sprays. This works for me but it still requires a lot of juice. Right now, I'm waiting for the cold cold weather to hit here in the midwest and I don't know if were even going to have much of a winter. London is a great scent on any day but nice on a cold cold day.

Bogart Pour Homme (which is kind of similar and inexpensive) is a wonderful fresh cherry tobacco scent that is the closest frag I own to London. I'm loving this one more and more all the time.

Good Luck.
post #8 of 31
As you have discovered, this one performs best on clothes, however, there is little that can be done about the projection. Either a fragrance projects or it doesn't. I don't think its a matter of it being cheap or low-quality ingredients. I think the brand and the perfumer intentionally created something more discreet. I see London as a more close-quarters, high-society, elegant fragrance, where as the rest of the line is more pedestrian and common. Sometimes you just have to appreciate a fragrance for what it is and not mourn what it is not. Its a tough pill, but I eventually learned to swallow it too. Just my two cents....
post #9 of 31
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Thanks BOOMER and d4N13L for the recommendations on alternative fragrances. I think there was a thread recently too, on how Burberry London is similar to Bogart PH.

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Originally Posted by hednic View Post

I guess people's skin chemistry must have something to do with it as I don't seem to have any problem with longevity. Three sprays last me my entire work day.

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Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post

I guess, at least to my nose, Burberry London is more of a "light on the trigger-scent" (and, trust me, I'm a rather "heavy sprayer", even when it comes to powerhouses, sillage/longevity/projection bombs etc.)

If it is simply a matter of skin chemistry, then I am envious of the two of you!

If I'm putting it on my clothes, however, then maybe there is some inconsistency in the production quality? Or is there such a thing as clothing chemistry?

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Originally Posted by mike59271 View Post

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Try shifting more of your sprays on to your clothes. This will increase longevity with less sprays. I am afraid projection isn't very good on this one for me either - so I don't know what to say there. See if that helps!

Today I've got 4 sprays on me and 5 on my shirt. We'll see how it goes...

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Originally Posted by OlfactoryExperience View Post

As you have discovered, this one performs best on clothes, however, there is little that can be done about the projection. Either a fragrance projects or it doesn't. I don't think its a matter of it being cheap or low-quality ingredients. I think the brand and the perfumer intentionally created something more discreet. I see London as a more close-quarters, high-society, elegant fragrance, where as the rest of the line is more pedestrian and common. Sometimes you just have to appreciate a fragrance for what it is and not mourn what it is not. Its a tough pill, but I eventually learned to swallow it too. Just my two cents....

This is a good point and there are definitely some situations in my life where low sillage is actually desirable. For example, some people at my workplace are hyper-sensitive to fragrance, but they don't seem to be bothered by scents that stay closer to me. If only London would stick around long enough without 12 sprays, maybe I could appreciate this more
post #10 of 31
Find this one lacking in longevity and/or projection as well. Seems to disappear rather a little too quickly.
post #11 of 31
I dunno why people have such longevity problems on this one. On my skin, it does quite well with 2-3 sprays. I get 8+ hours, and good projection for about 4 of those hours.
post #12 of 31
OP sounds like me + Cacharel. 10+ sprays and I notice it vaguely after 20min.
Bloody shame: it used to be very potent back in the days.
post #13 of 31
I have the exact same problem with it.
I douse myself in it, as I walk outside it's only faintly perceivable.

By the time I get to college or work, I can't even smell it anymore.
post #14 of 31
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Originally Posted by hednic View Post

I guess people's skin chemistry must have something to do with it as I don't seem to have any problem with longevity. Three sprays last me my entire work day.

This I the number one factor, Friend has the same issues
post #15 of 31
I have an update to share. Yesterday I sprayed just one spray of Burberry London to the back of my hand expecting it to be gone within an hour BUT to my surprise, it lasted all day long, easily 8 hours or more! Perhaps olfactory fatigue takes effect with this one. What a fantastic, classy and smooth scent. I am glad I gave it another try. It may be my Super Bowl party frag.
post #16 of 31
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Originally Posted by hednic View Post

I guess people's skin chemistry must have something to do with it as I don't seem to have any problem with longevity. Three sprays last me my entire work day.

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Originally Posted by Oupavoc View Post

This I the number one factor, Friend has the same issues

I wish skin chemistry was the number one factor. I have been moving more of my sprays onto my clothes and it makes only a small difference to the longevity.

Yesterday I sprayed 2 on me, 4 under my tee shirt, and 3 on top of my tee shirt. Managed to get about 6 hours. Today I'll try 10 sprays, which would be 2 less than my original post and a modest improvement to economy by spraying mostly on my clothes.

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Originally Posted by pbjguy View Post

I have an update to share. Yesterday I sprayed just one spray of Burberry London to the back of my hand expecting it to be gone within an hour BUT to my surprise, it lasted all day long, easily 8 hours or more! Perhaps olfactory fatigue takes effect with this one. What a fantastic, classy and smooth scent. I am glad I gave it another try. It may be my Super Bowl party frag.

I totally agree about what a fantastic, classy and smooth scent Burberry London is. The problem is not olfactory fatigue however, because I have double checked with my girlfriend when I have met up with her after wearing it for x number of hours. She confirms that this scent doesn't last on me

If it isn't just skin chemistry or olfactory fatigue, I can only think there must be batch inconsistency...
post #17 of 31
wore it once with two sprays to neck and it projected well for first few hours.
post #18 of 31
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Originally Posted by pbjguy View Post

I have an update to share. Yesterday I sprayed just one spray of Burberry London to the back of my hand expecting it to be gone within an hour BUT to my surprise, it lasted all day long, easily 8 hours or more! Perhaps olfactory fatigue takes effect with this one. What a fantastic, classy and smooth scent. I am glad I gave it another try. It may be my Super Bowl party frag.

You didn't wash your hands for the entire day then or did the scent over come that too
post #19 of 31
I do get 6-8 hours from my London 100 ml bottle bought at Beauty Encounter in October 2011.

But if you want to up it a bit try what I do occasionally -

Spray 2 sprays of Caron PUH in each arm pit and one on the chest. Then spray 1 London on the chest and one London in each arm pit.

The spray 2 London on the neck and one to the back of your head.

This gives me 12-14 hours of very nice classy Caron PUH and London blend.
post #20 of 31
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Update: lately, I've been wearing about 20 sprays of Burberry London Special Edition 2008 and find that to be about right. I went up as high as 25, but that ended up being a bit too heavy... somehow too dense. It never seems to project much, but at 20 sprays (14 under my clothes), it does last all day
post #21 of 31
I just don't know why this juice lasts 10+ hours with very good projection on me with only three sprays of application, whilst on everyone else it seems so tame.
post #22 of 31
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I just don't know why this juice lasts 10+ hours with very good projection on me with only three sprays of application.

Same for me.
post #23 of 31
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Originally Posted by Zgb View Post

I just don't know why this juice lasts 10+ hours with very good projection on me with only three sprays of application, whilst on everyone else it seems so tame.

Same here.

My guess is not olfactory fatigue but instead anosmia to one of the major chemicals in the drydown. It seems that this one's drydown is reliant upon a chemical (some tobacco synth?) that many people are anosmic too, and this would explain why the poster's g/f above may be confirming that it is "gone" so soon, while those who are not anosmic to said chemical are probably finding 10, 15, 20 sprays insanely overwhelming.
post #24 of 31
12!?

Wow. I never go more than 4 sprays of any fragrance. I suspect olfactory fatigue both on you and your girlfriend. Really, 12, 20, 25 sprays, that's just out of control.
post #25 of 31
I was pleasantly surprised by the potency/longevity of this one after picking it up over the winter. After reading nothing but complaints about its lifespan, I expected the worst, but instead found it to be about on par with many other scents.
post #26 of 31
Dude... don't spray yourself 25 times... That's just ridiculous.
Think about all the people around you who you're making sick.

I love Burberry London, IN MODERATION
post #27 of 31
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I wonder what percentage of the population could be anosmic to some of the ingredients? I've never had a comment, positive or negative, from anyone except my gf. Even at 20ish sprays, she doesn't notice it until she's LESS than 12 inches away... next time I wear it, I'll have to make a point of asking more people if they can perceive it or not.

Seeing as a lot of my application is going on my shirt now, thereby mitigating the effect of skin chemistry, could it be that I have a bad bottle of the 2008 special edition?

Or maybe this fragrance is just designed so that it can't be over-applied? I had a sample set of the regular Burberry London, so I used it in conjunction with the aftershave and body wash, but it didn't project much either and longevity was below average. Using half the sample in one go (approximately 2.5mL), I did get it to project about 2 feet for the first couple hours...
post #28 of 31
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Originally Posted by CMcG View Post

... next time I wear it, I'll have to make a point of asking more people if they can perceive it or not.

Here's a little follow up. My flanker of the 2008 Special Edition is finished and I also went through another sample of the regular Burberry London just to double check. It's basically impossible to over apply this stuff!

Applying 10+ sprays definitely improves the longevity, but the projection remains minimal, compared to more powerful fragrances like Sung Homme, Azzaro, Fahrenheit, etc. To refute what several people have suggested here about over-application, I have asked a bunch of different people in different situations if they can smell it. I did not ask if it was too strong, because that is more subjective, just whether they could smell it at all.

With the 2008 Special Edition, I've applied 18 or 20 sprays and at least three different people, on separate days/locations haven't been able to smell it at a normal conversational distance. This is within 2-4 hours of application.

With the regular Burberry London, I used the shower gel, aftershave balm, and a 1.5mL splash of the EdT sample and 20 minutes later asked a group of 8 people whether they could detect it. People sitting at the same table could, while people at the next table could not. 2 hours late, it was back to imperceptible at conversational distance for everyone, just like the 2008 flanker.

My conclusion is that anyone who likes this fragrance, but has trouble with the longevity, should try about 10+ sprays, mixing them between skin and clothes. I don't think that 20 sprays is really necessary, because I have found diminishing returns on longevity improvement and so it becomes wasteful. For me 12 sprays is probably best.

On the other hand, Burberry London is a good option for a more safe, reserved fragrance for work because a reasonable 3-5 sprays means it won't project very much. It's also good for a situation where I might need a scent for 6ish hours, but don't want it to last all day, like if later in the day I'm planning a workout or will be meeting up with someone who is fragrance sensitive.

Of course, results may vary, so this just reflects my opinion and experience.
post #29 of 31
I've never had any problems with either longevity or projection with London. As a matter of fact, I wore it a couple of weeks ago and was told by a female friend who usually grabs my wrist to give it a sniff to find out what I'm wearing, told me I smelled like Christmas before I'd even had a chance to say hello.
post #30 of 31
I get good lasting of over 6 hours on my skin but yes projection is a problem with London. It stays close to skin.
post #31 of 31
I don't get good longevity with many frags, but strangely I do with London. Projection is poor though. Absolutely fantastic smelling frag!!
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