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post #1 of 61
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i am so happy i tried it from a sample today... saved me couple of hundreds but not from blind buy madness... those hundreds will go blind for something else... any suggestions?
post #2 of 61
are you looking for niche?

Tom Ford Private Blends
Serge Lutens
Mona di Orio
Frederic Malle
CdC

just to name a few
post #3 of 61
xxv has a urine smell to me that I cant get past
post #4 of 61
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Originally Posted by cameron View Post

xxv has a urine smell to me that I cant get past

......hahaha...... not that bad, but not worth those money. i even think fille en aguilles is a better scent.
post #5 of 61
Maybe something from:

Serge Lutens
Mona di Orio
Frederic Malle
Montale
Micallef
post #6 of 61
if you want sweet spicy smoky incense, just get the best cheapie in the world and cop Eav Des Bavx by L'Occitane
post #7 of 61
Try Avignon for the best incense smell I have ever smelled.
post #8 of 61
Here are a few suggestions:

Creed Silver Mountain Water
Creed Aventus
Tom Ford Noir de Noir
Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille
Frederic Malle Musc Ravageur
post #9 of 61
Also, interesting that you didn't like Jubiliation XXV. I've been meaning to sample it for quite some time. Can you tell me what put you off from it?

I've never smelled an Amouage before, so I'm very curious. Especially regarding Jubilation XXV; I've heard a lot of good things about it.
post #10 of 61
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Originally Posted by CaliDude View Post

Also, interesting that you didn't like Jubiliation XXV. I've been meaning to sample it for quite some time. Can you tell me what put you off from it?

I've never smelled an Amouage before, so I'm very curious. Especially regarding Jubilation XXV; I've heard a lot of good things about it.

It is fantastic! I love the scent and was trying to get this one from a fellow basenoter that has decided to hold off.
post #11 of 61
It was a nice scent, a nice fruity opening, but longevity is TERRIBLE on me, this was gone in three hours or so.
post #12 of 61
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Originally Posted by mspa View Post

those hundreds will go blind for something else... any suggestions?

Maybe a couple dozen samples from luckyscent?
post #13 of 61
Incense Oud By Kilian
post #14 of 61
Dzhari by Phaedon >>>>>>>> Jubilation XXV

Dzhari definitely does what Jubilation should have done
post #15 of 61
Given all the hype here, I was fully expecting to love Jub XXV. Alas, I was sadly disappointed. I think what killed this for me is the ashiness/smokiness.

Avignon is the better incense and cheaper too.
post #16 of 61
Is the longevity really that bad?
post #17 of 61
Nope. It lasts about 10 hours on me, Very strong stuff.
post #18 of 61
I get ten hours longevity and I do like this scent. The only small thing is the blackberry note is so dominant that after five hours or so it starts to outstay its welcome.
post #19 of 61
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Originally Posted by mspa View Post

i am so happy i tried it from a sample today... saved me couple of hundreds but not from blind buy madness... those hundreds will go blind for something else... any suggestions?

Hang on, so you acknowledge the saving grace of sampling hundreds by not going in blind, but then admit to going in blind anyway.

You could be setting yourself up for a fall. I'd never really advocate blind buying unless the amount is immaterial on an oldie or similar. But to punt hundreds on the likes of private blend/amouage, you could well end up out of pocket!!

Pre-warned is pre-armed and all that...
post #20 of 61
I just ordered a sample of this stuff. Curious to see what all the hullabaloo is about!
post #21 of 61
I sampled this again last night and didn't like it as much as I thought. Too much fruits. I guess I have to look elsewhere for a fine incense.
post #22 of 61
Mine lasts all day and projects like a b*stard. Either I got a good batch, or those reformulation rumours are true....
post #23 of 61
I don't know, I'll give mine another look, but I was very unimpressed with how short it lasted. I could barely smell it on my clothes at the end of my work day. I can smell most designers with no problem whatsoever on clothes after 8 hours.
post #24 of 61
I totally agree with "mspa". I really wanted to blind-buy Amouage XXV due to the nice list of notes. I decided to buy a sample first, and I'm glad I did! Amouage is definitely not worth $300. I wouldn't even accept a free bottle of that stuff!

The longevity was nice on me, but the projection died after about 2 or 3 hours. After that, I would literally have to make my nose contact my skin just in order to get a smell. Amouage XXV never reminded me that it was there, and I was always quick to pick another (cheaper) fragrance over it.
post #25 of 61
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Originally Posted by Kron View Post

Nope. It lasts about 10 hours on me, Very strong stuff.

Agreed.

A small amount is very nice, but multiple sprays gives me a headache.
post #26 of 61
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Originally Posted by fitch256 View Post

It was a nice scent, a nice fruity opening, but longevity is TERRIBLE on me, this was gone in three hours or so.

It lasts for about two days on me. The stuff is relentless.
post #27 of 61
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Originally Posted by fitch256 View Post

It was a nice scent, a nice fruity opening, but longevity is TERRIBLE on me, this was gone in three hours or so.

This. One of the worst longevities of any fragrance I've ever tried. The price of this one does not match the poor quality and longevity. I took my 2nd (1ml) sample of this, decanted into a mini atomizer and sprayed the entire thing on my wrist, within an hour I could barely detect anything other than the faint trail of what is obviously raspberry ketone. Unimpressed.
post #28 of 61
Just check Creeds.
post #29 of 61
I got about 6-8 hrs off my sample...at the time I preferred LDDM but Jubilation XXV has grown on me and it got far more compliments than LDDM, a nice refined almost classy vibe with a subtle sweetness. This is my fancy dinner go to scent (can wear it more than that but thats just what comes to mind).

Alternatives I would look at Creed, TF Private Blend, maybe bond no., serge lutens.
post #30 of 61
Perhaps I'm anosmic to this fragrance as I mostly detect a kind of gourmand/vanilla type base with lots of berries on top. It's not a bad fragrance (for whatever reason it reminds me of Back to Black, one of my alltime favs). I stopped by the Perfume House today to test their Jubilation XXV (on the off chance that somehow my other samples (from 2 different mailorder places) were "off" somehow) but sure enough, within about 90 minutes there wasn't even a trace of the fragrance. Unfortunately I'm just about done trying to give this one a chance.
post #31 of 61
Just got a sample of this stuff, I think it smells very well done but it reminds me of how a hippie shop would smell or mom and pop record store. I don't want to smell like that but still...VERY well made imo.
post #32 of 61
I'll join the ranks of those who remain unimpressed with this one.
I recently made a swap in which I got a 10ml decant of this,
and I can't wait to get rid of it. A relentlessly cloying mess.
post #33 of 61
Brian Chambers made me TWO samples of it and I absolutely adore it. It lasts forever as well on me. Not sure how anyone could not love this.
post #34 of 61
Absolutely love Jubi XXV and it lasts forever on me. After a few days of continuous use I did notice I experienced olfactory fatigue as everyone else around me was getting blasted because I opted for "1" extra spray lol
post #35 of 61
I'm just so entirely confused at how some people are having abysmal longevity and others are having powerhouse experiences (and frustrating for me because like I said it's not a bad fragrance, I just feel like it's not present enough). Even 2 seconds after applying, it's got this 'barely-there' quality to it. I really do think I must be anosmic to some part of this fragrance. I generally find I have a well tuned nose when comparing my own impressions to the general consensus here on BN but people's experiences with longevity on this one seem to be all over the map. Perhaps there's a big ol' chunk of iso-e rooted deep in this one.
post #36 of 61
XXV is a masterpiece IMO.
post #37 of 61
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Originally Posted by flouris View Post

I'm just so entirely confused at how some people are having abysmal longevity and others are having powerhouse experiences...

I had this problem with Jacomo Rouge. Once I began avoiding most of the top notes, I was able to not only appreciate it, but the drydown was so strong I swapped it off !
post #38 of 61
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Originally Posted by flouris View Post

I'm just so entirely confused at how some people are having abysmal longevity and others are having powerhouse experiences (and frustrating for me because like I said it's not a bad fragrance, I just feel like it's not present enough). Even 2 seconds after applying, it's got this 'barely-there' quality to it. I really do think I must be anosmic to some part of this fragrance. I generally find I have a well tuned nose when comparing my own impressions to the general consensus here on BN but people's experiences with longevity on this one seem to be all over the map. Perhaps there's a big ol' chunk of iso-e rooted deep in this one.

It's the iso e and, probably some other musks, causing olfactory fatigue (or is a musk anosmia issue). Also, the stronger the fragrance, and the more sprays applied, the more likely olfactory fatigue will set in. That's why it doesn't surprise me when powerhouse scents like XXV, Epic Man, etc sometimes get blasted for having short longevity.
post #39 of 61
Memoir and Epic are my favorites from the line but XXV is terrific too. I have no longevity problems and am light on the trigger. Like SOS said I think the trick is don't overspray.
post #40 of 61
I adore Jubilation XXV, IMO it is luxurious, potent, warm, classy perfume.
Fortunately, my nose is capable to enjoy this Masterpiece, but I agreed with some, lets say, young perfume "lovers" that compare to the avalanche of sport editions/lousy flankers and wanna be perfumes on the market at moment, for some might smell like " Urine ".
Suffice to point out that your nose needs to have some level of " understanding " to get the perfume, I do not want to sound like a snob b..., but it took me couple of years to get: Guerlain Shalimar, Habit Rouge, Chanel no5, and now I am absolutely in love with these beauties, I definitely understand that being confronted with a total different concept of doing perfumes might off put some peoples and those in such a rush to judge and to have an opinion might end up saying things like: It smells like grandpa, dated, urine etc....I am ok with that;-)
post #41 of 61
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Originally Posted by cameron View Post

xxv has a urine smell to me that I cant get past

What are you on, crack? Amouage's Jubilation 25 is one of the finest fragrances of all time!
post #42 of 61
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Originally Posted by acer3 View Post

What are you on, crack? Amouage's Jubilation 25 is one of the finest fragrances of all time!

That user has only Creed and Bond No. 9 in his wardrobe. Nothing wrong with that--but I think as Bonoanimoes points out, his is not a nose that has gone very far afield. I think XXV is magnificent myself, but also being somewhat new to fragonerdery, there are notes that my nose is not quite ready for either (e.g. the diaper smell in Mouchoir de Monsieur). It just takes time.
post #43 of 61
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Originally Posted by Ozjon701 View Post

Memoir and Epic are my favorites from the line but XXV is terrific too. I have no longevity problems and am light on the trigger. Like SOS said I think the trick is don't overspray.

Yeah, I typically wear my fragrances very lightly -- almost never more than 1 spray (I actually prefer to apply less than that, which typically is best done either via tester sprayer or sample vial). Of course, that method resulted in a virtual non-experience of Jubilation so with each wearing onward I'd gradually apply slightly more until I ran through my first sample and was on to my 2nd sample. Then yesterday at the Perfume House I sprayed it directly (from the actual bottle, not sampler) and same result.

So I just woke up this morning and before running across the streets to get my Starbucks I dabbed on a tiny bit more of jubilation.. just a barely-there smell as usual. Arrive at Starbucks, before I can even order my barista goes "oh my god, is that you? (she leans in and sniffs) wow what is that called?! that smells AMAZING!" probably the most enthusiastic remark on any fragrance I've worn. So I must obviously be anosmic to something in here because obviously others can smell it but the more I wear it the more I like it.

I did have an epiphany though, last night I realized the perfumer for Jubilation is Bertrand Duchaufour (l'artisan resident perfumer), and I've always had a problem with his fragrances being too light/airy. So my conclusion is great scent, not strong enough for my particular nose, and kind of sad about that because it's probably my favorite Amouage at the moment.
post #44 of 61
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Originally Posted by acer3 View Post

What are you on, crack? Amouage's Jubilation 25 is one of the finest fragrances of all time!

Are we referring to the same scent? Jubilation 25 is the women's, Jubilation XXV is the men's scent. I can't speak to 25, but I do know that XXV has a urine thing going on that deters me from wearing it.
post #45 of 61
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Originally Posted by cameron View Post

Are we referring to the same scent? Jubilation 25 is the women's, Jubilation XXV is the men's scent. I can't speak to 25, but I do know that XXV has a urine thing going on that deters me from wearing it.

The urine thing you seem to be detecting could be the oud. It's not my favourite rendirion of oud here, but then again, I always feel disappointed when the heavenly top notes fade and the oud/frankincense kick in. Still, all in all, a wonderful scent.
post #46 of 61
XXV = roman numerals for the number 25 ...

X = 10
X = 10
V = 5

Yes I am referring to the mens version, i.e. Jubilation XXV ...

I haven't tried the womens version ...
post #47 of 61
I'm not a fan of this one, one of my least favorite frags in Amouage's line. The longevity issues are from some of the aromachemicals used, as SoS mentioned. Chances are people will be able to smell it 10-12 hours later even if you can't.

My favorites so far are Lyric Man and Ciel Man. Still haven't tried Dia...

Also, I agree with drseid, By Kilian's Incense Oud is a really well done incense frag. The refills and travel sprays are much less expensive than the 50 mL bottle w/box.
post #48 of 61
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Originally Posted by flouris View Post

Yeah, I typically wear my fragrances very lightly -- almost never more than 1 spray (I actually prefer to apply less than that, which typically is best done either via tester sprayer or sample vial). Of course, that method resulted in a virtual non-experience of Jubilation so with each wearing onward I'd gradually apply slightly more until I ran through my first sample and was on to my 2nd sample. Then yesterday at the Perfume House I sprayed it directly (from the actual bottle, not sampler) and same result.

So I just woke up this morning and before running across the streets to get my Starbucks I dabbed on a tiny bit more of jubilation.. just a barely-there smell as usual. Arrive at Starbucks, before I can even order my barista goes "oh my god, is that you? (she leans in and sniffs) wow what is that called?! that smells AMAZING!" probably the most enthusiastic remark on any fragrance I've worn. So I must obviously be anosmic to something in here because obviously others can smell it but the more I wear it the more I like it.

I did have an epiphany though, last night I realized the perfumer for Jubilation is Bertrand Duchaufour (l'artisan resident perfumer), and I've always had a problem with his fragrances being too light/airy. So my conclusion is great scent, not strong enough for my particular nose, and kind of sad about that because it's probably my favorite Amouage at the moment.

It always makes me very envious to hear how you guys in the US and certain other places actually GET compliments from strangers on your fragrances. It certainly is a cultural thing about being outspoken in a social interaction, because as open as Spaniards are in other senses, it is virtually impossible that anybody will ask you about what you are wearing here or telling you how much they like it, unless it is a friend or relative...
post #49 of 61
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Originally Posted by fitch256 View Post

It was a nice scent, a nice fruity opening, but longevity is TERRIBLE on me, this was gone in three hours or so.

Can't agree more. Can we petition Amouage to make an extrait version of this one? I've grown to absolutely adore it but the longevity is just atrocious!

It's a nice, cool, dark rainy day here so I wore 4 sprays of it today (that's a lot for someone who is typically one spray only) and now, about 3 hours later, it's just a barely-there lingering at best.. it even fades rapidly from clothes. I know Bertrand does the L'Artisan line and they can be on the weaker/transparent side as well but I really wish a stronger version of this one existed. Lyric Man lasts 12 hours without breaking a sweat, XXV barely passes the 3 hour mark. I have no idea how people are saying they get 10 hours from this.
post #50 of 61
Something's up. I don't think that variation is possible. Where did the three hour juice come from? I would contact Amouage.
post #51 of 61
This has always been a 6-spray-minimum scent for me. No one-spray-wonder. But generously applied to the upper body it has a presence/aura which can be described as "poetic" - and people never seemed to be bothered.
post #52 of 61
Brian: Over the last couple months my Jubilation xxv use has come from one 5ml decant I purchased, two 1ml samples from Aedes, and I've used the tester bottle at a local perfume shop here 4 or 5 times. Each juice appears to be identical version and each version totally phones it in on the longevity, the same way as many of Bertrand's other scents do. The Jubilation longevity issues remind me of the Back to Black ones, half seem to get one thing and the other half get something else.

Candide: While you're probably right, no juice costing $250-300 should require that many sprays. It seems like a very light EdT formulation to be honest. The scent itself is off the charts. It took me a while to fully appreciate it but it has quickly jumped into my top 5.
post #53 of 61
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Originally Posted by flouris View Post

[...] no juice costing $250-300 should require that many sprays.

This is reasonable thinking and despite a perfume-spleen one should (from time to time) ponder on basic economics, too.
post #54 of 61
A masterpiece!
post #55 of 61
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Originally Posted by flouris View Post

Brian: Over the last couple months my Jubilation xxv use has come from one 5ml decant I purchased, two 1ml samples from Aedes, and I've used the tester bottle at a local perfume shop here 4 or 5 times. Each juice appears to be identical version and each version totally phones it in on the longevity, the same way as many of Bertrand's other scents do. The Jubilation longevity issues remind me of the Back to Black ones, half seem to get one thing and the other half get something else.

Candide: While you're probably right, no juice costing $250-300 should require that many sprays. It seems like a very light EdT formulation to be honest. The scent itself is off the charts. It took me a while to fully appreciate it but it has quickly jumped into my top 5.

Maybe it is just different skin types, but the delta is so big. I put on 3 sprays at 8am this morning, and I'm going to see how it goes. I also wear Memoir and Epic, so I want to make sure I'm not confusing them in my memory. I'll let you know how it goes.

- - - Updated - - -

Update at 5.3 hours: still going strong. I would characterize projection as medium now, down from huge at 8am. My memory of this scent is that it will stay at this plateau for at least another 4 hours. I'll update again at the end of the day.
post #56 of 61
I have had two samples made from Brian's bottle of XXV and I'll attest that they both have excellent sillage and last upwards of 6 hours on me with only 3 sprays.
post #57 of 61
I wonder if people have different definitions of what constitutes a fragrance 'lasting'. Are you including the barely-there wisp of scent that still lingers on the skin? Or are you saying after 6 hours it's still going full steam the way something like Tobacco Vanille does?

The only other logical explanation would be batch inconsistencies. I've tried about 2 more full wearings over the weekend, each with 4 sprays, and after 3-4 hours it's toast. I did a side by side on my wrist on Saturday and Back to Black outlasted xxv. There seems to be many others in just about every xxv thread on BN that comments on the weak longevity of this fragrance which is why I think this spreads beyond just one or two folks being anosmic to something in it.
post #58 of 61
You're not even going to believe me when I answer your question.

At the 6.5hr mark, my boss came walking toward me, stopped in his tracks about 12 feet away, and said, "It smells like perfume over here." He was so far away that I was certain it wasn't me. He knows I'm into it, and I said, "I hope it's not me." He came a few feet closer and said, "Yes, it's you." So I am apparently projecting like a mofo with my 3 sprays. (And am now pretty embarrassed.)

I totally believe you about it being gone in 3 hours. I just have trouble believing that skin alone is the contributing factor. It's such a HUGE difference. If you want to try some of my batch, you are welcome to. That might answer a question or two.

- - - Updated - - -

And we're not talking wispy yet. At 7.5hrs, I am still getting big lungfuls.
post #59 of 61
Interesting. I'll chime in just to say that the three or four times I've tested it I thought it was a very light, sheer, incense-y scent, not particularly strong or having much projection. But other people really noticed it, and I'd find that I'd get unexpected wafts of it even after I thought it had disappeared, at least seven or eight hours in. I like it.
post #60 of 61
At hour 9, it definitely feels diminished to me. (But after the feedback earlier, I'm hesitant to say that would be the case for anyone around me.) I wouldn't call it wispy yet. It's still very present every time I inhale. But it's not as strong as it was this morning. Still very enjoyable though.
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