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A soft 'powdery' effect... HOW?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Any tips on how to achieve this? I've tried with Ethyl vanillin, coumarin, musk, amber, etc but still can't get even close to that lovely perfume effect - the powdery drydown - you find in the Dior bases and the like...
post #2 of 17
Which musk(s) are you using? You should be able to get a powdery drydown with Ethylene brassylate or velvione. I often use a combination of things including veramoss and ambrettolide with ethylene brass. to achieve that effect.

I think in Dior uses rose acetate though - which is fine if you want a rose note, whereas the above combination can work with a lot of different things.
post #3 of 17
Another interesting thing I am going to try out this one tonight because I had the same question and in my mind it is always
powder = iris so..
post #4 of 17
Another interesting thing I am going to try out this one tonight because I had the same question and in my mind it is always
powder = iris so..
post #5 of 17
Play with Rose & Vanilla. Iris has that affect already.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Bartlett View Post

Which musk(s) are you using? You should be able to get a powdery drydown with Ethylene brassylate or velvione. I often use a combination of things including veramoss and ambrettolide with ethylene brass. to achieve that effect.

I think in Dior uses rose acetate though - which is fine if you want a rose note, whereas the above combination can work with a lot of different things.

I haven't got those ingredients, Chris, so I might have to do some more shopping. Always more shopping required...
Thanks for the info!
post #7 of 17
People differ as to their perception of musks. I can smell ambrettolide and galaxolide fine for the first sniff, then cannot smell them at all. On the other hand, I can continue to smell habanolide, so this is the most useful one for me.
post #8 of 17
Currently I only have essential oils and absolutes and find that opoponax, benzoin and iris create a nice powdery effect.
post #9 of 17
Try playing around with this simple blend:
3 parts Amber
2 parts Geranium
1 part Bergamot
post #10 of 17
Adding Benzoin, Guaiacwood and some alpha ionone (or violet) as modifiers may help also.
post #11 of 17
dup, sorry
post #12 of 17
There are some good ideas there Nymphaea but I’m not sure what you mean by Amber - ambergris or a replacer, pyrolised fossil amber or something else?
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by Accord View Post

People differ as to their perception of musks. I can smell ambrettolide and galaxolide fine for the first sniff, then cannot smell them at all. On the other hand, I can continue to smell habanolide, so this is the most useful one for me.

The only musk I've got is Galaxolide and really can't smell it at all! I really need to go shopping for more musks - the oily ones and the flowery ones. Where did you get the Habanolide?
post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 
Some very good suggestions here. Thanks.. and keep them coming/
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by Spoombung View Post

The only musk I've got is Galaxolide and really can't smell it at all! I really need to go shopping for more musks - the oily ones and the flowery ones. Where did you get the Habanolide?

I got all of my materials from Perfumer's Apprentice.
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by Chris Bartlett View Post

There are some good ideas there Nymphaea but I’m not sure what you mean by Amber - ambergris or a replacer, pyrolised fossil amber or something else?

I should have been more clear; the commonly found Amber fragrance blend of Benzoin, Labdanum & Vanilla (+or- various accentuators) that is easily available.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by Nymphaea View Post

I should have been more clear; the commonly found Amber fragrance blend of Benzoin, Labdanum & Vanilla (+or- various accentuators) that is easily available.

Ah of course: thanks. I don’t use those because they vary between suppliers but the combination is lovely and should help add a powdery dry-down.
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