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post #121 of 182
3/3/12 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by Dorje123 View Post

Creed may have quality natural ingredients in them, but do not think they are more "natural" than many others, they do use plenty of synthetics too. However, I agree Creed has a more natural feel than most designer frags... but don't confuse that with being all-natural, they are not.

And the tension in Aventus is something that can easily be overlooked, most people notice it as a "fresh" feeling frag and don't pick up on the underlying dark, smoky and almost fecal aspect... which is what makes it such a great frag.

I understand that it's not all natural, but many aspects of it make me feel so natural. I get no headaches, no sneezing, ect. I've tried numerous numerous frags and most give me headaches so that's why I enjoy Creed. You're right. The first 3 hours of Aventus are very fresh and clean then it gets mysterious and birchy and dark. Love it
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post #122 of 182
3/3/12 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by Brian Chambers View Post

There is a metallic note that smells unnatural to me. That is not in itself a criticism. I actually don't care if a fragrance is made from synthetics as long as it doesn't give the impression of being overly synthetic. In Aventus, it's dialed up a little too loud.

This stuff smells very synthetic to me. I'd be surprised if it's more than 2% natural by weight. E.g. there is no such thing as "pineapple essential oil" ... all "fruit" notes not from leaves or citrus peel are lactones or esters.

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I can also smell the additives in water that are supposed to be undetectable to most people. Maybe I'm hyper sensitive.

So can I. Hypersensitive perhaps compared to Joe Schmo of Springfield, USA, but connoisseur to the BN cognoscenti.

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Why don't You talk up? Aventus is kitsch.

I get that cat picture -- it's the Chinatown dime store equivalent of Aventus. Imagine one of those luck cats with Swarovski crystals and you get close to the new Creeds IN MY OPINION, which of course is intrinsically better than others' because I have objectively better taste and opinions.

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post #123 of 182
3/3/12 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by Kron View Post

So says the guy who loves and named himself after New Haarlem. Not good with Irony?

New Haarlem is only offensive if you over spray (or over apply your sample).
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post #124 of 182
3/3/12 at 10:22am
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Originally Posted by Kron View Post

So says the guy who loves and named himself after New Haarlem. Not good with Irony?

lol
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post #125 of 182
3/3/12 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by NewHaarlem View Post

New Haarlem is only offensive if you over spray (or over apply your sample).

Just like Aventus then.


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lol

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post #126 of 182
3/3/12 at 11:42am
Gentlemen, Gentlemen...there are a lot of emotions and opinions flying around, and that's ok. Because it's all fun and games until someone get hurt. Unfortunately someone hurt my heart by insulting the genius Terrence Malick. I think I'm going to douse myself in Aventus, watch "The Tree of Life", then set myself on fire in principled opposition to this thread.
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post #127 of 182
3/3/12 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by Kron View Post

Just like Aventus then.

Not even close.
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post #128 of 182
3/3/12 at 11:56am
I am still trying to figure out WTF fragrance to wear with these suckers. I think the guy on the left could go with Spicebomb, but the get-up on the right seems like a stretch, even for CdG's new perfume - the one with the scent of packing tape and white flowers.

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post #129 of 182
3/3/12 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by NewHaarlem View Post

Not even close.

You must've had a bad experience with Aventus bc I thought I'd seen a post in a different thread that you thought it was pretty good
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post #130 of 182
3/3/12 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by xiuxia View Post

Gentlemen, Gentlemen...there are a lot of emotions and opinions flying around, and that's ok. Because it's all fun and games until someone get hurt. Unfortunately someone hurt my heart by insulting the genius Terrence Malick. I think I'm going to douse myself in Aventus, watch "The Tree of Life", then set myself on fire in principled opposition to this thread.

LOL

Grown men - fighting over perfume.

Such is the power of CREED!
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post #131 of 182
3/3/12 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by NewHaarlem View Post

Not even close.

I find more than one spray of New Haarlem virtually unwearable and thats in a cold climate so respectfully I disagree.
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post #132 of 182
3/3/12 at 12:09pm
It's been well documented that anything more than 2 sprays of Aventus and your going to be "that guy that wears too much cologne."
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post #133 of 182
3/3/12 at 1:11pm
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Originally Posted by petruccijc View Post

I don't wear it because I don't enjoy the smell of it - and I wear fragrances for my own enjoyment, not because they are compliment getters.

Me too, and Aventus has gotten me compliments all 5 times I wore a sample. I really don't find Aventus to be offensive or nasty in any way. Just a scent that doesn't do much for me personally.

I do understand why it's so popular. Because people are like sheep, and just follow the pack without knowing why.
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post #134 of 182
3/3/12 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by thebeck View Post

Me too, and Aventus has gotten me compliments all 5 times I wore a sample. I really don't find Aventus to be offensive or nasty in any way. Just a scent that doesn't do much for me personally.

I do understand why it's so popular. Because people are like sheep, and just follow the pack without knowing why.

Or because - get ready for this - they actually like it!
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post #135 of 182
3/3/12 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post

I am still trying to figure out WTF fragrance to wear with these suckers. I think the guy on the left could go with Spicebomb, but the get-up on the right seems like a stretch, even for CdG's new perfume - the one with the scent of packing tape and white flowers.


I totally would wear the outfit the guy on the left is wearing. The one on the right is just ridiculous.
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post #136 of 182
3/3/12 at 1:52pm
What I thought would be a good discussion thread, because the thread starter Brian was proven to be a great read in his short time here, seems to have almost become an attempted gang-bang on him. Amazing how some guys get their back up like that.

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Originally Posted by lovingthealien View Post

....AND I just finished reading through this thread now.

Seems there are several people who feel really stupid for buying into this garbage and are desperately trying to justify those 4 ounces of radioactive Ungaro III through trash talkin' Brian Chambers who is definitely the best thing to happen to this board since I joined (The release of Aventus being the worst, by contrast)...

Totally agree ( well, until you mentioned yourself )......and don't forget that's the reformulated radioactive Ungaro III
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post #137 of 182
3/3/12 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by LloydLlewellyn View Post

Or because - get ready for this - they actually like it!

That's an interesting thought, it's one I hadn't thought of myself. I thought it was for the same reason so many people shop at Walmart. I haven't figured that one out either.
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post #138 of 182
3/3/12 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by thebeck View Post

I do understand why it's so popular. Because people are like sheep, and just follow the pack without knowing why.


I think that statement applies to Dior Homme Intense more than any other scent in existence. DHI is sickly, synthetic, offensive trash in a bottle that makes the wearer smell worse than an old womans handbag. I wouldn't even use it for a toilet freshener.

Despite Aventus being overhyped, it happens to be rather good!
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post #139 of 182
3/3/12 at 3:24pm
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Originally Posted by thebeck View Post

That's an interesting thought, it's one I hadn't thought of myself. I thought it was for the same reason so many people shop at Walmart. I haven't figured that one out either.

You see? You learn a new thing every day :-)
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post #140 of 182
3/3/12 at 3:25pm
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Originally Posted by Tropics View Post

I think that statement applies to Dior Homme Intense more than any other scent in existence. DHI is sickly, synthetic, offensive trash in a bottle that makes the wearer smell worse than an old womans handbag. I wouldn't even use it for a toilet freshener.

Despite Aventus being overhyped, it happens to be rather good!

My thoughts exactly!
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post #141 of 182
3/3/12 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by Tropics View Post

I think that statement applies to Dior Homme Intense more than any other scent in existence. DHI is sickly, synthetic, offensive trash in a bottle that makes the wearer smell worse than an old womans handbag. I wouldn't even use it for a toilet freshener.

Despite Aventus being overhyped, it happens to be rather good!

You probably stick and glue your nose where you applied DHI on your skin instead of smelling its sillage, that's why you find it "synthetic" and unpleasant. Before you judge any fragrance, you have to give it space from your nose and let it develop on your skin.
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post #142 of 182
3/3/12 at 4:56pm
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Originally Posted by NewHaarlem View Post

You probably stick and glue your nose where you applied DHI on your skin instead of smelling its sillage, that's why you find it "synthetic" and unpleasant. Before you judge any fragrance, you have to give it space from your nose and let it develop on your skin.

I blind bought vintage DHI because of all the posititive reviews and consistant bumping onto BN front page. Hated it as soon as i smelled it but gave it plenty of wearings to see if it would grow on me. On each occasion i felt embarrassed to be wearing such a ridiculous trashy scent. What the hell was i doing! Definitely a low point in my search for great frags. Yup, i realised i'd been suckered. Lesson learned, never trust reviews and never blind buy.
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post #143 of 182
3/3/12 at 6:56pm
this is a near perfect example of an internet forum
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post #144 of 182
3/3/12 at 7:29pm
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Originally Posted by Surfacing View Post

Totally agree ( well, until you mentioned yourself )......and don't forget that's the reformulated radioactive Ungaro III

Haha! I meant to say during the time I've been on this forum, not that he's the best member since me!

Definitely the reformulated Ungaro III, but it's the "real" one now and adding "reformulated" to the sentence would have made the statement unwieldy and untidy looking.
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post #145 of 182
3/3/12 at 7:30pm
ungaro 3 sucks. aventus smells good.
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post #146 of 182
3/3/12 at 7:33pm
Hahaha. Agree with heperd
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post #147 of 182
3/3/12 at 7:37pm
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Originally Posted by heperd View Post

this is a near perfect example of an internet forum

Yes. Ugh and this is why I am detaching myself from this thread. The epitome of ... distasteful....
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post #148 of 182
3/3/12 at 7:53pm
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Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post

Yes. Ugh and this is why I am detaching myself from this thread. The epitome of ... distasteful....

best idea.
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post #149 of 182
3/3/12 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by heperd View Post

best idea.

Lmao. I said the same thing but u best me to it
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post #150 of 182
3/3/12 at 8:33pm
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Originally Posted by NewHaarlem View Post

You probably stick and glue your nose where you applied DHI on your skin instead of smelling its sillage, that's why you find it "synthetic" and unpleasant. Before you judge any fragrance, you have to give it space from your nose and let it develop on your skin.

+1 especially when some smell nasty up close - le male, reflection man etc
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post #151 of 182
3/3/12 at 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post

I am still trying to figure out WTF fragrance to wear with these suckers. I think the guy on the left could go with Spicebomb, but the get-up on the right seems like a stretch, even for CdG's new perfume - the one with the scent of packing tape and white flowers.


I thought the same when I found the pic... my conclusion was flower shirt guy is Muscs Koublai Khan and accordion pants guy is Byredo M/Ink
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post #152 of 182
3/4/12 at 12:57am
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Originally Posted by vbs View Post

I thought the same when I found the pic... my conclusion was flower shirt guy is Muscs Koublai Khan and accordion pants guy is Byredo M/Ink

I'll have to try that Byredo, just to see what it's like.

Incidentally, this thread made me wear Aventus tonight. Just one spray under the shirt for an evening out - it was the perfect level. Very hard to avoid the temptation of a second or third spray.

Your pictorial representation of an Aventus thread was hilarious - thanks for that. The most interesting thing to me was your representation of Aventus as a suit. Strangely, I've always imagined Aventus the same way. It really does have a "fresh, expensive clothing" vibe to it, doesn't it?

I'll just add my thanks to Brian for this thread. Despite the heat, there has been an awful lot of light (and light-heartedness) for a CREED thread, and I appreciate it!
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post #153 of 182
3/4/12 at 5:14am
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Originally Posted by Tropics View Post

I think that statement applies to Dior Homme Intense more than any other scent in existence. DHI is sickly, synthetic, offensive trash in a bottle that makes the wearer smell worse than an old womans handbag. I wouldn't even use it for a toilet freshener.

Despite Aventus being overhyped, it happens to be rather good!

'Have been called names in reaction to a way more polite but negative statement about the DIOR home thing. Same with Terre d'Hermes.

Reagrading the Aventus I would suggest to try a solid vintage or funny contemporary specimen of a smoky woody masculine - DERBY or JE SUIS UNE HOMME or the GUCCI.
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post #154 of 182
3/4/12 at 9:14am
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Originally Posted by thebeck View Post

The perfect reason. I believe you. I think women love Aventus even more than the men here on Basenotes. I'm married so Aventus isn't needed, but if I were single again, I would have a bottle of Aventus in my wardrobe at all times - maybe even make it a signature scent.

Women do seem to love it, but as a single guy, I've gotten similar positive reactions from Puredistance M and Back to Black, which are the other 2 frags I'll generally wear on dates. I dated one woman who was starting a cosmetics biz and dabbled in making perfumes, and she loved BtB a lot... But all 3 have gotten very, very positive reactions. It is also true my male friends don't like any of these that much, I have gotten a couple negative comments on Aventus from males, but never females. I think it is just the case that most males don't wear frags around here, so they find it unusual, and not in a good way... OTOH, women find it unusual in a good way.
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post #155 of 182
3/4/12 at 10:02am
Brian, I've seen some of the stuff that you have and IMO, you have excellent taste in fragrance choice. If you don't like, enjoy or wear Aventus, that's perfectly fine. I don't think any amount of pushing, prodding, manipulating and stories of sexual conquest is going to make anyone like a fragrance they don't .
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post #156 of 182
3/4/12 at 10:07am
When I think about it objectively, I can really see the smarts behind the composition. It rides the wave of currently popular fruity scents that women love, but picks a more gender-neutral fruit note. Then it does the smoky masculinization, but just enough to make it decidedly mainstream men's - in no way so much as to seem retro, out-of-date, or avant-garde. Keep enough similarity to popular items in Macy's, but give it unmistakable Creed polish.

I've made it a habit to ask the SAs about how Aventus is selling, and it only seems to get more popular. At this point, I feel that Creed is using price and availability to keep it in a sweet spot. You can get it, but it's in no danger of becoming commonplace.
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post #157 of 182
3/4/12 at 11:29am
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Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post

I am still trying to figure out WTF fragrance to wear with these suckers. I think the guy on the left could go with Spicebomb, but the get-up on the right seems like a stretch, even for CdG's new perfume - the one with the scent of packing tape and white flowers.


I think it might be Xerjoff Nio on the right.
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post #158 of 182
3/4/12 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by Brian Chambers View Post

I think it might be Xerjoff Nio on the right.

LOL! I can definitely see a certain house resemblance! (Although one might argue that Russian mobsters might deserve association with something a bit more... ahem... "timeless"! )
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post #159 of 182
3/8/12 at 2:10pm
I tried aventus for the first time today. I was amazed by how well done it is but I could also relate to what the OP is saying - it's obnoxiously attention-seeking and, as someone said, "cloyingly good".
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post #160 of 182
3/8/12 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by PWJ View Post

I tried aventus for the first time today. I was amazed by how well done it is but I could also relate to what the OP is saying - it's obnoxiously attention-seeking and, as someone said, "cloyingly good".

I consider those to be points in its favor , but that's just how I roll
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post #161 of 182
3/8/12 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by Dorje123 View Post

Women do seem to love it, but as a single guy, I've gotten similar positive reactions from Puredistance M.

I have also gotten crazy compliments on Puredistance M. And I was not expecting them. The highest compliment I've ever gotten was from a woman on M. She is a good friend of mine but also the creative director for a major couture house (one with their own fragrance line). She's the sort of woman that makes any guy feel like a total schlub. So I was pretty stunned when she said, "You smell amazing!"

She went on to be extremely amused that I knew what a flanker was.
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post #162 of 182
4/14/12 at 5:24am
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I thought the same when I found the pic... my conclusion was flower shirt guy is Muscs Koublai Khan and accordion pants guy is Byredo M/Ink

Weird! Way before I stumbled across your reply, I too came up with M/Mink for the guy on the right. The only other scent that might work would be Michael Storer's Djin.

The guy on the left? Hmm, I'll go with Noir Epices.
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post #163 of 182
4/14/12 at 5:33am
I tried Aventus and well, I just do not care for it. Royal Oud was very nice.
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post #164 of 182
4/14/12 at 5:53am
My reason is more straightforward, I prefer my money to be in my pocket, not CREED's. I'm sure if I really need a compliment I just can give somebody a fiver.
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post #165 of 182
4/14/12 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by Brian Chambers View Post

The first time I smelled a sample of this, it certainly caught my attention. it smells really good. I bought a small decant of it and have worn it a few times. Then I stopped.

I've been trying to articulate exactly why I've lost interest in it. The last time I wore it, I do remember feeling a little...I don't know...cheap? It isn't cheap juice for sure. But it's kind of a cheap thrill. It smells good but that's all it does. No tension, no contrast, no intrigue. Just a Big Good Smell. I enjoyed it once but wearing it over and over is liking watching an action movie over and over; once you know the plot, there's not much else to sustain your interest in repeated viewings.

The projection/sillage aspect almost made me self-conscious. Not only was it a cheap thrill but I wanted to share it with everyone within a 15 foot radius. It was like I was broadcasting a message to the world, a very loud and piercing message, that said, "Hey, look at me! I'm not very sophisticated and my tastes are pretty simple. BUT LOOK AT ME!"

I still enjoy the smell of it in small doses. I think if someone passed me on the street wearing it, I'd be happy to get a whiff of it. But I don't know how people can live in that synth-cloud deathgrip for 8+ hours. It's rather fatiguing.

While I own this and really enjoy it I can also identify with what you're saying - especially "No tension, no contrast, no intrigue". Part of the reason I joining BN was to find fragrances that would do just that. Out of curiosity (and to add to my list of frags to try), what would you recommend as frags that achieve this?
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post #166 of 182
4/14/12 at 10:09am
^^ I agree. It smells nice but not special enough for the money
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post #167 of 182
4/14/12 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by Mr G View Post

While I own this and really enjoy it I can also identify with what you're saying - especially "No tension, no contrast, no intrigue". Part of the reason I joining BN was to find fragrances that would do just that. Out of curiosity (and to add to my list of frags to try), what would you recommend as frags that achieve this?

That is the $64,000 question, isn't it? The things I'm wearing most often right now are Windsor, des Sens et Bois, Kinski, Vetiver 46, and Harrods Oud. They are all intriguing and smell really good.
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post #168 of 182
4/14/12 at 10:38am
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Originally Posted by Rüssel View Post

My reason is more straightforward, I prefer my money to be in my pocket, not CREED's. I'm sure if I really need a compliment I just can give somebody a fiver.

WoW new tone for a basenoter

Saving $$$$ instead of 'investing' them in niche frags that's a first in here.....
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post #169 of 182
4/14/12 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by Brian Chambers View Post

That is the $64,000 question, isn't it? The things I'm wearing most often right now are Windsor, des Sens et Bois, Kinski, Vetiver 46, and Harrods Oud. They are all intriguing and smell really good.

Cheers Brian. I'll try get my hands on some of your suggestions.
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post #170 of 182
4/14/12 at 6:32pm
I rarely wear the same scent daily but I enjoy throwing Aventus in the mix at least weekly and dependant on the weather. To some degree I can see the OP's point but Aventus feels nice for me and I havent come across anyone down here wearing it so eh
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post #171 of 182
4/14/12 at 6:34pm
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WoW new tone for a basenoter

Saving $$$$ instead of 'investing' them in niche frags that's a first in here.....

kinda sounds like Heresy!!
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post #172 of 182
4/14/12 at 6:46pm
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I have a special talent for driving any thread into a ditch.

Got that right.
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post #173 of 182
4/14/12 at 6:49pm
I've tried Aventus a couple of times and it didn't make much of an impression. I was surprised because it is hyped so much, supposed to attract hoards of women, big complement getter, etc. And I like Creed in general. So it is a bit perplexing...
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post #174 of 182
4/14/12 at 7:22pm
I mostly agree with Brian. I think Aventus smells nice, but I don't find it very interesting.

It reminds me of a lot of 80's powerhouse masculines. If I had a bottle of it, it would be in competition with stuff like Grey Flannel, Azzaro, Z-14, etc. on the rare occasion that I'm in the mood for something like that. Of course, it costs like 20x as much as those. The price point seems to have no relation to the cost. I would guess that Aventus could be sold in a Z-14 bottle for $15 profitably. What expensive naturals could it contain? Ambergris? I doubt it - I doubt any mass produced fragrance uses the stuff. It doesn't have any orris or extravagant florals. I feel much the same way about GIT.
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post #175 of 182
4/14/12 at 7:52pm
Damn. I sprayed some of my Aventus sample on my wrist earlier when I started reading through this thread.

Wouldn't you know it? I walked by my wife and she said that I smell amazing. Her panties didn't actually drop, but the night is young.
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post #176 of 182
4/15/12 at 7:50am
Ha i love the smell but had an interesting reaction yesterday that i can only attribute to Aventus. I went to a lil get together at a friends house last night and made the mistake of spraying 2 sprays of aventus. I usually spray only 1. The thing projected like crazy and someone complained that i had too much cologne on. That wans't the interesting part. My friends own a dog who would not leave me along. The dog was recently neutered. He kept on grabbing onto my leg and proceeded to hump away with reckless abandon.This happened at various points through out the night. And i was the only one he humped. I have been there before but it has never happened before.

Now ive heard the words "bitches" and "aventus" used numerous times in the same sentence but i didn't think it was used in the literal sense of the word. Next time i think ill stick to GIT or Original Santal before i head over..
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post #177 of 182
4/15/12 at 9:27am
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Damn. I sprayed some of my Aventus sample on my wrist earlier when I started reading through this thread.

Wouldn't you know it? I walked by my wife and she said that I smell amazing. Her panties didn't actually drop, but the night is young.

Sometimes it is nice to have a relatively simple, fresh, versatile frag that really smells good. Basenoters can sometimes think too much to appreciate a frag like Aventus.

And, it is fashionable to bash a frag that is popular here, as a reaction to "hype"... this word should be banned from use on basenotes IMO. "Hype" is simply other basenoters saying they like a frag, lol. When too many people like a frag, it is now "hyped", which apparently is something negative. Then, as a reaction to "all the hype" you get threads like this, which are opportunities for other members to show they are unique, "above the hype", and likely have significantly better tastes than those who enjoy or "hype" said fragrance.

It is kinda ridiculous...

And in this case, the assertion that Aventus isn't unique and has no "tension" are factually incorrect.
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post #178 of 182
4/15/12 at 9:29am
^^ I agree
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post #179 of 182
4/15/12 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by Dorje123 View Post

Sometimes it is nice to have a relatively simple, fresh, versatile frag that really smells good. Basenoters can sometimes think too much to appreciate a frag like Aventus.

And, it is fashionable to bash a frag that is popular here, as a reaction to "hype"... this word should be banned from use on basenotes IMO. "Hype" is simply other basenoters saying they like a frag, lol. When too many people like a frag, it is now "hyped", which apparently is something negative. Then, as a reaction to "all the hype" you get threads like this, which are opportunities for other members to show they are unique, "above the hype", and likely have significantly better tastes than those who enjoy or "hype" said fragrance.

It is kinda ridiculous...

And in this case, the assertion that Aventus isn't unique and has no "tension" are factually incorrect.

Yup...

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post #180 of 182
4/15/12 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by Dorje123 View Post

And in this case, the assertion that Aventus isn't unique and has no "tension" are factually incorrect.

Factually incorrect? How could an opinion of any sort, like thinking of Aventus as being unique, ever a fact? I don't think it's unique at all, and I'm certainly not asserting that as fact. I'm stating an opinion.
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