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Anyone else lusting after the New iPad?

post #1 of 59
3/8/12 at 10:22am
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Well, here we go again.



Another launch of an amazing Apple gadget that is better than its predecessor by just enough to make it lustworthy. In this case, the stunning screen resolution, good camera, 1080P HD video recording, and the promise of amazing apps powered by the new quad core graphics processor make it a must-have for me.

The iPhone 4s fell short of the "must have it" mark for me. I wanted the better camera - the iPhone has become my main camera (all of my "Today I Bought" photos are taken with it). But I'm still happy enough with my iPhone 4 to wait for the 5.

Apple press release

Gizmodo's take on the new iPad

Here's the official trailer:

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post #2 of 59
3/8/12 at 12:09pm
I usually skip a generation. I had an iPhone 4. Didn't get the 4s. May get the 5.
Switched to a Samsung Note (android) only for the massive screen size of 5.5" and resolution of 1280x800.
This was my 17 monitor resolution in 1997!

I have an ipad. I didn't get the ipad2. Will definitely get the ipad3.

As I said. I skip a generation. The differences between current and next are usually small. Not worth the hassle of migrating.
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post #3 of 59
3/8/12 at 4:30pm
Yes I want one for sure!!! I will not be able to purchase one at this time.....In the near future I hope!!!
Gary
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post #4 of 59
3/8/12 at 4:30pm
I might also consider one.
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post #5 of 59
3/8/12 at 5:12pm
Does it play Flash and Shockwave yet, so that one can surf the net properly?
Does it perhaps have a USB port or two?

Without these, I just thought the two earlier versions were crippled computers which, for my needs and wants, were outperformed by much cheaper netbooks. And yes, I know that I don't really know what I'm talking about because
"The Ipad is not a computer, but is instead a really cool gadget" - as I've been told lots of times.

I haven't joined the Apple fan club yet.
Though I will admit that the Ipad is the best thing for reading electronic newspapers and magazines on.
Regards,
Renato
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post #6 of 59
3/8/12 at 6:35pm
I got the iPad 2 last year so I'm gonna sit this one out. I'm a huge Apple fanatic and I'd love to have this one for the processor and graphics, but the iPad 4 will be even better!
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post #7 of 59
3/8/12 at 6:45pm
Lusting but showing the same restraint as always. I'll check it out, but not sure if I'll buy one. My old iPad is trucking along pretty nicely.
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post #8 of 59
3/8/12 at 6:46pm
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Hedonist: I normally skip generations too - I have an iPhone4 and passed on the 4S. However, I have an iPad2, but I think I will get the new one anyway. I'll pass my old one to my wife and get the new one.

Renato: No Flash still, so if that's a deal breaker for you, this one won't change anything. I wasn't sure how I'd use mine at first, but I find it indispensable now. It's my primary web surfing device now - no Flash doesn't seem to affect me much. It's an occasional annoyance.

The Amazon, eBay, and Facebook apps are nice. I take photos with my iPhone, they automatically sync to the iPad with Photostream, and then I edit them there using an excellent app called FilterStorm. From there I upload to Flickr or Photobucket using their respective apps. When I sell stuff on eBay, I use this workflow to get edited photos on the iPad, and then create the listings using the iPad eBay app.

Games are cool, too. And there are lots of nice interactive reading apps and educational games for kids.

None of this stuff works as well on a netbook or a standard laptop, at least for me.

I expect that with the new one, I will begin shooting video with it, editing in iMovie, and sharing to YouTube and posting to Facebook. The iMovie app is pretty amazing, but I'm too lazy to transfer video to the iPad to work with. Maybe there's an easy way to do it from my iPhone, but I haven't figured it out.
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post #9 of 59
3/8/12 at 11:36pm
Serious lusting here too... I have an iPad 2 as well, so really I should not think about it as I am very happy with mine. iPad 4 is probably when I change...
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post #10 of 59
3/9/12 at 12:18am
Poor timing for me: I had no idea apple were bringing out a new model and only recently upgraded to an ipad2 (yes, I live under a rock).
I'm very happy with what I've got though. Apart from general internet browsing, I mainly use my ipad to listen to world radio, so my techy needs are minimal.
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post #11 of 59
3/9/12 at 1:23am
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Originally Posted by gandhajala View Post

Poor timing for me: I had no idea apple were bringing out a new model and only recently upgraded to an ipad2 (yes, I live under a rock).
I'm very happy with what I've got though. Apart from general internet browsing, I mainly use my ipad to listen to world radio, so my techy needs are minimal.

Hi g. Which world radio app do you use?
Can you listen to it and use other apps in tandem?
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post #12 of 59
3/9/12 at 1:34am
^ H. - I use tunein radio. Pulls in 1000s of stations from around the world. You can search for podcasts too, record programmes, use it as an alarm clock, set up a list of favourites etc. Runs in tandem with other apps, so you can listen & browse web or whatever at the same time. I can honestly say it was the best 59 pence I have ever spent.
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post #13 of 59
3/9/12 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by rubegon View Post

Renato: No Flash still, so if that's a deal breaker for you, this one won't change anything. I wasn't sure how I'd use mine at first, but I find it indispensable now. It's my primary web surfing device now - no Flash doesn't seem to affect me much. It's an occasional annoyance.

Thanks for the info - that is disappoinying.

I just bought a small Android gadget for $99 that puts the internet on TV sets. It has a tiny bug in it such that when I click on various sites it often says "Falshplayer required", and after a nearly a second it remembers it has Adobe Flash player and starts playing the item. This happens an awful lot of times. FLV files are all over the place. Does your Ipad have a work around for use on say You Tube?

Actually, the way Apple syncs so seamlessly is what I hate about it. My wife wanted and got an Ipod. I put Itunes on several computers to put songs into the Ipod. Only problem was, the minute I plugged the Ipod into the second computer from which I wanted to transfer some other songs into the unit, because that computer didn't have any songs in it's library, it automatically synched, and wiped off the first set of songs I'd previously transferred on the first computer. The Ipod seems designed for use on a single computer as far as I can tell. I haven't followed my wife's example and have stuck to MP3 players.

As for photos, the vast majority of cameras require USB ports for backing up/ saving photos. I have four DSLRs and a high end point and shoot, and a dozen other cameras - none of which I can use with an Ipad - but all of which work fine with a Netbook, into which I have Photoshop Elements installed. I'm struggling to figure out what people would do with the pictures they take with their cameras on overseas trips, if all they had was an Ipad - when it is very important to back photos up on USB sticks and hide them in case you get robbed.
Regards,
Renato
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post #14 of 59
3/9/12 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

FLV files are all over the place. Does your Ipad have a work around for use on say You Tube?

YouTube is a special case, as there is a nice YouTube app for the iPad. If you click a youtube.com link anywhere on an iPad or iPhone, it launches the app and takes you directly to that video. Youtube videos embedded in websites do the same thing when you click on them.

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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

Actually, the way Apple syncs so seamlessly is what I hate about it. My wife wanted and got an Ipod. I put Itunes on several computers to put songs into the Ipod. Only problem was, the minute I plugged the Ipod into the second computer from which I wanted to transfer some other songs into the unit, because that computer didn't have any songs in it's library, it automatically synched, and wiped off the first set of songs I'd previously transferred on the first computer. The Ipod seems designed for use on a single computer as far as I can tell. I haven't followed my wife's example and have stuck to MP3 players.

You can prevent an iPod from automatically syncing to any computer it gets plugged into. In fact, I think iTunes warns you when you plug an iDevice into a new computer before it starts to sync.

For your situation, you have at least 2 options: put all of the media you want on one computer and manage your syncing from that one; use a non-iTunes software to manually manage your content (I think the freeware iExplorer lets you do this, and move photos and other files on and off the device); and I think you can use iCloud to manage your syncing without ever plugging into any computer with the new version of iOS, but I haven't used it.

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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

As for photos, the vast majority of cameras require USB ports for backing up/ saving photos. I have four DSLRs and a high end point and shoot, and a dozen other cameras - none of which I can use with an Ipad - but all of which work fine with a Netbook, into which I have Photoshop Elements installed. I'm struggling to figure out what people would do with the pictures they take with their cameras on overseas trips, if all they had was an Ipad - when it is very important to back photos up on USB sticks and hide them in case you get robbed.

If you want to use it to backup photos from a camera and perhaps edit and upload to a web service (flickr, photobucket, facebook, ...) the simple way is to use the iPad Camera Connection Kit. This lets you pull in photos via a USB connection from a camera or from an SD card directly. It costs $29, and I understand that it lets you plug in any number of other USB devices as well. With this you can do surprisingly sophisticated editing "on the road" with the $5 FilterStorm app (cropping, rotation, resizing, color balance, highlight/shadow adjustments, RGB/luminance curves, etc., etc.). If you have internet connectivity, you can then sync to the cloud automatically (in the background) if you enable PhotoStream on the latest iOS. At that point your photos are secure. This may all have a resolution cap - not sure.

In any case, if you are taking lots of photos with a DSLR, this is not the tool for the job. This is ideal for more casual shooting with a P&S camera or the iPhone, in my case. When I take my DLSR out on a trip or something, I lug my MacBook Pro (an MB Air would be even better!) along, shoot RAW, do daily dumps to Aperture which does RAW processing on the fly, and then daily backups of my Aperture library to an external HD that I store separately from my other gear. I also make a dynamic album in Aperture that grabs my highest rated shots from the trip albums and autosyncs to an album on Facebook. Then every day when I sync, I rate the best shots, and they automatically get uploaded to the FB album. That lets friends and family see photos as we go getting updated every day.

My whole end of day workflow on trips is pretty painless and gets me double backups with RAW source images and automatic RAW processing and sharing to FB.

I feel like I'm trying to sell you on the stuff - that's not my intention! I just wanted to show that I think there is a way you can do what you want in most cases. Once you are in the Apple ecosystem, you see that there are "official" Apple ways to do things that are simple for people that can't be bothered with the techy stuff, but there are always methods to make the gear do exactly what you want it to do while still benefiting from the useful innovative features and relatively seamless integration of the devices and software.

No question though - if you are shooting lots of photos on a DSLR, having only an iPad as a support device is not workable. The MacBook Air is the perfect weapon for that job.
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post #15 of 59
3/9/12 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by gandhajala View Post

Poor timing for me: I had no idea apple were bringing out a new model and only recently upgraded to an ipad2 (yes, I live under a rock).
I'm very happy with what I've got though. Apart from general internet browsing, I mainly use my ipad to listen to world radio, so my techy needs are minimal.

Gandhajala - how recently did you buy? If it's still within the return period, you should be able to effectively get a retroactive discount at least. The iPad2 will continue to be offered at a lower price.
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post #16 of 59
3/9/12 at 2:08pm
Coincidentally I downloaded that same app gandhajala before you replied. It is a lovely app.
Was listening to Latin Jazz from Santiago.....divine.
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post #17 of 59
3/9/12 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by Larimar View Post

Serious lusting here too... I have an iPad 2 as well, so really I should not think about it as I am very happy with mine. iPad 4 is probably when I change...

My thoughts exactly L
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post #18 of 59
3/9/12 at 4:28pm
I'll buy one.
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post #19 of 59
3/9/12 at 5:06pm
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I just got management approval to proceed. Apparently my wife's brother-in-law has just pre-ordered one, and Aphrodite can not abide losing the questionable distinction of having the gadgetiest guy in the family.

(he already has an iPhone 4s, so it was already debatable)
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post #20 of 59
3/10/12 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by rubegon View Post

YouTube is a special case, as there is a nice YouTube app for the iPad. If you click a youtube.com link anywhere on an iPad or iPhone, it launches the app and takes you directly to that video. Youtube videos embedded in websites do the same thing when you click on them.



You can prevent an iPod from automatically syncing to any computer it gets plugged into. In fact, I think iTunes warns you when you plug an iDevice into a new computer before it starts to sync.

For your situation, you have at least 2 options: put all of the media you want on one computer and manage your syncing from that one; use a non-iTunes software to manually manage your content (I think the freeware iExplorer lets you do this, and move photos and other files on and off the device); and I think you can use iCloud to manage your syncing without ever plugging into any computer with the new version of iOS, but I haven't used it.



If you want to use it to backup photos from a camera and perhaps edit and upload to a web service (flickr, photobucket, facebook, ...) the simple way is to use the iPad Camera Connection Kit. This lets you pull in photos via a USB connection from a camera or from an SD card directly. It costs $29, and I understand that it lets you plug in any number of other USB devices as well. With this you can do surprisingly sophisticated editing "on the road" with the $5 FilterStorm app (cropping, rotation, resizing, color balance, highlight/shadow adjustments, RGB/luminance curves, etc., etc.). If you have internet connectivity, you can then sync to the cloud automatically (in the background) if you enable PhotoStream on the latest iOS. At that point your photos are secure. This may all have a resolution cap - not sure.

In any case, if you are taking lots of photos with a DSLR, this is not the tool for the job. This is ideal for more casual shooting with a P&S camera or the iPhone, in my case. When I take my DLSR out on a trip or something, I lug my MacBook Pro (an MB Air would be even better!) along, shoot RAW, do daily dumps to Aperture which does RAW processing on the fly, and then daily backups of my Aperture library to an external HD that I store separately from my other gear. I also make a dynamic album in Aperture that grabs my highest rated shots from the trip albums and autosyncs to an album on Facebook. Then every day when I sync, I rate the best shots, and they automatically get uploaded to the FB album. That lets friends and family see photos as we go getting updated every day.

My whole end of day workflow on trips is pretty painless and gets me double backups with RAW source images and automatic RAW processing and sharing to FB.

I feel like I'm trying to sell you on the stuff - that's not my intention! I just wanted to show that I think there is a way you can do what you want in most cases. Once you are in the Apple ecosystem, you see that there are "official" Apple ways to do things that are simple for people that can't be bothered with the techy stuff, but there are always methods to make the gear do exactly what you want it to do while still benefiting from the useful innovative features and relatively seamless integration of the devices and software.

No question though - if you are shooting lots of photos on a DSLR, having only an iPad as a support device is not workable. The MacBook Air is the perfect weapon for that job.

Thanks for the indepth response.
I was watching an ad for a Samsung tablet on TV tonight where they said that it has Flash Player, so that "one can visit thousands of places on the internet". I still think this is the super flaw with Ipad.

Thanks very much for the link to iExplorer, I will be using it when my wife finally finds the Ipod she misplaced in our recent house move. With respect to synching, I'd only previously ever had experience with Microsoft's synching to Route 66 GPS units, and that just got the device and computer talking to each other, rather than acting. Instead, Itunes gave me the option to synch and then acted, or just gave me the option to stare at a blank Ipod. Anyhow, it'll be good to get control of that Ipod.

I can't help but feel cynical about the Ipad camera connection kit. Having to pay $29 for something that is extremely cheap to install and is standard in all other computers and rival tablets just seems like an exercise in money making exploitation of very loyal customers to me.

Also, there are lots of other uses for a USB port on a computer, e.g plugging in my portable CD burner, plugging in my GPS unit for its updates, plugging in my Kobo reader so that I can charge it and keep reading ebooks.

That Filterstorm sounds very good. The adjust shadow/highlights function is the one I use on just about every photo I take with every camera. I couldn't find it in The GIMP at the time, which was one reason why I converted my old Netbook from Linux to XP, so that I could have a program with that function (and a decent Scrabble program too), else I would have stuck to the much faster Linux suite of programs.

I don't shoot RAW very much, unless it's a wedding or there are clouds in the background that I want to capture extra well. So that's why a cheap tiny Netbook does me, whereas you'd definitely need the extra grunt.

Interesting the way you use Facebook when travelling. I haven't joined it, instead opting for shrinking photos with Irfanview and just emailing them to family and friends.

Thanks again for that program which gives me control of the Ipod. It'll be usefull because I now like playing music at parties through an MP3 player into an amplifier, and I noticed last time that my friend's Ipod had a much stronger output signal than my MP3 player.
Regards,
Renato
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post #21 of 59
3/10/12 at 11:42am
I have ip4s and iPad 2. Will be getting iPad 3 because the screen resolution on iPad 2 is poor to say the least.

Very pixelated and not sharp. iPhone 4/4s has the perfect screen. iPad 3 will almost get the same high quality non pixelated screen. I can't wait.

Will get the white iPad 3 32 GB 3G and then reuse my Vaja Libretto 200$ cover for it:

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post #22 of 59
3/12/12 at 5:33am
I never lust after apples... I just eat them...
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post #23 of 59
3/12/12 at 9:42am
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

Thanks for the indepth response.
I was watching an ad for a Samsung tablet on TV tonight where they said that it has Flash Player, so that "one can visit thousands of places on the internet". I still think this is the super flaw with Ipad.

Thanks very much for the link to iExplorer, I will be using it when my wife finally finds the Ipod she misplaced in our recent house move. With respect to synching, I'd only previously ever had experience with Microsoft's synching to Route 66 GPS units, and that just got the device and computer talking to each other, rather than acting. Instead, Itunes gave me the option to synch and then acted, or just gave me the option to stare at a blank Ipod. Anyhow, it'll be good to get control of that Ipod.

I can't help but feel cynical about the Ipad camera connection kit. Having to pay $29 for something that is extremely cheap to install and is standard in all other computers and rival tablets just seems like an exercise in money making exploitation of very loyal customers to me.

Also, there are lots of other uses for a USB port on a computer, e.g plugging in my portable CD burner, plugging in my GPS unit for its updates, plugging in my Kobo reader so that I can charge it and keep reading ebooks.

That Filterstorm sounds very good. The adjust shadow/highlights function is the one I use on just about every photo I take with every camera. I couldn't find it in The GIMP at the time, which was one reason why I converted my old Netbook from Linux to XP, so that I could have a program with that function (and a decent Scrabble program too), else I would have stuck to the much faster Linux suite of programs.

I don't shoot RAW very much, unless it's a wedding or there are clouds in the background that I want to capture extra well. So that's why a cheap tiny Netbook does me, whereas you'd definitely need the extra grunt.

Interesting the way you use Facebook when travelling. I haven't joined it, instead opting for shrinking photos with Irfanview and just emailing them to family and friends.

Thanks again for that program which gives me control of the Ipod. It'll be usefull because I now like playing music at parties through an MP3 player into an amplifier, and I noticed last time that my friend's Ipod had a much stronger output signal than my MP3 player.
Regards,
Renato

Hi Renato,

I used to feel much the same way about many of these issues before changing over. One thing I will say is that they seem like much bigger issues "from the outside". I probably sound like a major fanboy, but I changed to Mac and iDevices because overall they let me do more of what I want in less time, and they are more enjoyable to work with.

You might surprised how few web sites still use Flash these days. Many of those that do only use it for a skippable intro. I rarely come across a page that I can't use with mobile Safari, and more are getting rid of it every day. I think new Flash web development is pretty much dead because no one wants to build a new site that won't work with iDevices. Try disabling your Flash plugin and see how few pages are not usable to know for sure.

I don't think the decision to leave out a USB port was based on making people pay for an adapter. This is a company that sells major OS upgrades for $29, and I would guess that 10% or fewer users actually get the camera connection kit. I get my photos in and out via wifi sync. Apple is obsessed with reducing the number of ports on devices for aesthetic reasons (and maybe to prevent dust getting in?). Why have a big, rectangular hole in the case when you already have a slim dock connector and wireless connectivity? The things you mention are not really jobs for an tablet - can you burn a CD or update your GPS maps with an android tablet? The iPad's not meant to replace a computer. It's a more focused device.

Yes, FilterStorm rocks! I just crop and make curves adjustments for now, although I've been playing with other features. It has more than I will ever use.

I was convinced to start shooting RAW when I realized how much image data is discarded in jpg conversion. RAW images are 12-bit, where jpg are 8-bit. By discarding 1/3 of the image data, you always lose highlight and shadow detail that was there. You can see this if you have a RAW+jpg mode, and software that processes RAW. It is a hassle to work with though, unless you use an image management system that makes it transparent, like Apple Aperture, Adobe Lightroom, or now ACDSee Pro (I think).

Sharing photos is almost the only thing I use FB for now. It's nice to upload them to one place automatically and have everyone be able to see them. The social aspect is nice, as people can comment and discuss them, rather than just looking at them once. On a road trip we took last year, I created an album for the trip, and added 20-40 photos a day to it, over almost 3 weeks. Friends and family could see when new photos were posted, and I got notices when people commented on the photos. It's great for this sort of thing.

Let me know if iExplorer works for you. I haven't actually used it, but it may be something useful to carry around on a thumb drive.
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post #24 of 59
3/12/12 at 8:50pm
The screen is REALLY tempting...but I like my ipad2, I'll probably wait for the 4th generation.
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post #25 of 59
3/18/12 at 8:25pm
Got mine today.

Retina display is all it's made out to be. I expected it to be "good", but expectations fully exceeded after watching some HD vids.

Waiting to see how the 4G LTE affects battery performance before making a final judgement, but so far, I'm having fun with it.
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post #26 of 59
3/18/12 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by gandhajala View Post

Poor timing for me: I had no idea apple were bringing out a new model and only recently upgraded to an ipad2 (yes, I live under a rock).
I'm very happy with what I've got though. Apart from general internet browsing, I mainly use my ipad to listen to world radio, so my techy needs are minimal.

Likewise, my iPad2 is also very new. Very happy with it and didn't buy the original so won't look to upgrade anytime soon. The new features sound nice though.
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3/18/12 at 11:30pm
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post #28 of 59
3/19/12 at 1:22am
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Originally Posted by gandhajala View Post

^ H. - I use tunein radio. Pulls in 1000s of stations from around the world.

Me too. (Hello gandhajala)
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post #29 of 59
3/19/12 at 2:06am
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

As for photos, the vast majority of cameras require USB ports for backing up/ saving photos. I have four DSLRs and a high end point and shoot, and a dozen other cameras - none of which I can use with an Ipad - but all of which work fine with a Netbook, into which I have Photoshop Elements installed. I'm struggling to figure out what people would do with the pictures they take with their cameras on overseas trips, if all they had was an Ipad - when it is very important to back photos up on USB sticks and hide them in case you get robbed.

Hi Renato,

Thought I'd offer my perspective on this. I have just returned from 5 weeks in the sub-continent. I downloaded the photographs my GF and I took each day onto the iPad. Firstly, it's a much bigger (and therefore better) screen to review your photographs on than the back of your camera. Secondly, I blogged the trip, so it was an easy process to upload photographs to the blog.

Also, I use the Kindle app on the iPad, so the GF had books to read, and we had travel guides without lugging them around. (Ditch your e-reader. Kindle is the best app, and iPad is the best platform).

Almost every hotel we stayed in had free wifi, so I never had to look for an internet cafe, or plug my equipment into something you couldn't be sure about.

When I came home last week I transferred them all from the iPad to my PC, and I can set the iPad up at work to a slideshow to keep my colleagues entertained (or show them specific photographs or events).

I hear what you're saying about getting robbed, but simply, I kept the iPad close, and no one was getting it without a fight.

Also, in your other post about $29 for the camera connection kit - by the time you've paid for a 64GB, WiF, 3G iPad $29 just doesn't matter. Ditto the absence of Flash - there have been a handful of websites that won't work on the iPad, I can live with that.

I use mine primarily for work - it's mobile web and email access on a much bigger and better screen than a phone will ever give you - but it gets a work out on weekends, or when I'm away too.

I should declare, I'm no Apple fanboy.
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post #30 of 59
3/19/12 at 2:28am
I will be getting the new iPad. I will use it only really for watching movies in bed. I really love watching movies on them anyway and would love to upgrade to a quad core cpu.
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post #31 of 59
3/19/12 at 3:30am
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Originally Posted by thaifighter View Post

Got mine today.

Retina display is all it's made out to be. I expected it to be "good", but expectations fully exceeded after watching some HD vids.

Waiting to see how the 4G LTE affects battery performance before making a final judgement, but so far, I'm having fun with it.

Pros will be many. I'm interested in cons compared to either previous iPads.

The only thing that is terrible abut apple is the lack of ability to change batteries.
When i first bought my ipad 2 years ago the battery would last a good 2.5 days with heavy usage. I'm talking constant exchange (push mail too) mail, connecting via wifi or 3G. Playing online games.

Now the battery lasts a day.

Itw not easy for me to migrate to a new device because i have set up my ipad just the way I like it. Using jailbreak. I've paid for all my apps. I dint support piracy. But i use jailbreak for other reasons:

-Update apps larger than 20mb via 3G - I have a 10th monthly plan. I can afford to update apps on the fly.

-I use Atomic Browser. A real browser. If i didn't jailbreak all links clicked from e-mails would open in Safari. Wth jailbreak i have set all links to open via Atomic. Previously i had copy the link, open atomic, paste, go back to email, copy another link. It got tedious and made me feel barbaric.

-No lock screen. I find the lock screen to be an unnecessary obstacle.

And some others.

So migrating to a new device is not as easy as if i hadn't jail broken. That's why I'm wondering whether the new ipad is worth the hassle.
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post #32 of 59
3/19/12 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post

Pros will be many. I'm interested in cons compared to either previous iPads.

The only thing that is terrible abut apple is the lack of ability to change batteries.
When i first bought my ipad 2 years ago the battery would last a good 2.5 days with heavy usage. I'm talking constant exchange (push mail too) mail, connecting via wifi or 3G. Playing online games.

Now the battery lasts a day.

Itw not easy for me to migrate to a new device because i have set up my ipad just the way I like it. Using jailbreak. I've paid for all my apps. I dint support piracy. But i use jailbreak for other reasons:

-Update apps larger than 20mb via 3G - I have a 10th monthly plan. I can afford to update apps on the fly.

-I use Atomic Browser. A real browser. If i didn't jailbreak all links clicked from e-mails would open in Safari. Wth jailbreak i have set all links to open via Atomic. Previously i had copy the link, open atomic, paste, go back to email, copy another link. It got tedious and made me feel barbaric.

-No lock screen. I find the lock screen to be an unnecessary obstacle.

And some others.

So migrating to a new device is not as easy as if i hadn't jail broken. That's why I'm wondering whether the new ipad is worth the hassle.

Frankly if you find the screen quality of your iPad 2 satisfying and don't read books on it - wait for iPad 4 !

I however find my iPad 2 screen lacking in quality and will definitely upgrade cause of the better screen and higher resolution in iPad 3.
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post #33 of 59
3/19/12 at 10:02am
Resolution on myipad1 is suffice for my needs. I wouldn't mind higher resolution.

The resolution on my Samsung Note mobile is 1280*800 on a 5.5" screen.
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post #34 of 59
3/19/12 at 11:40am
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Resolution on myipad1 is suffice for my needs. I wouldn't mind higher resolution.

The resolution on my Samsung Note mobile is 1280*800 on a 5.5" screen.

If you wouldn't mind a higher res and better screen and have the money for the new one at hand, then buy it now
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post #35 of 59
3/19/12 at 12:49pm
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If you wouldn't mind a higher res and better screen and have the money for the new one at hand, then buy it now

Re-read the 4th paragraph of post # 31.
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post #36 of 59
3/19/12 at 1:09pm
Lusting lmao I hope your kidding....more like laughing at the sheep's that bought it :P

It has to many issues and not worth the price tag imo!!!

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26...eported-issues

http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/18/i...ad-heating-up/

Its barely any better then the quadcore tablet on the market now and more are on the way that will be more powerful then the ipad. TBH there's nothing revolutionary about it, and its not a true Retina display. The iphone 4 has more pixels on that tiny screen. Iphone 4 326 pixels per inch while the new Ipad has 264. No thanks.
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post #37 of 59
3/19/12 at 5:54pm
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Hi Renato,

Thought I'd offer my perspective on this. I have just returned from 5 weeks in the sub-continent. I downloaded the photographs my GF and I took each day onto the iPad. Firstly, it's a much bigger (and therefore better) screen to review your photographs on than the back of your camera. Secondly, I blogged the trip, so it was an easy process to upload photographs to the blog.

Also, I use the Kindle app on the iPad, so the GF had books to read, and we had travel guides without lugging them around. (Ditch your e-reader. Kindle is the best app, and iPad is the best platform).

Almost every hotel we stayed in had free wifi, so I never had to look for an internet cafe, or plug my equipment into something you couldn't be sure about.

When I came home last week I transferred them all from the iPad to my PC, and I can set the iPad up at work to a slideshow to keep my colleagues entertained (or show them specific photographs or events).

I hear what you're saying about getting robbed, but simply, I kept the iPad close, and no one was getting it without a fight.

Also, in your other post about $29 for the camera connection kit - by the time you've paid for a 64GB, WiF, 3G iPad $29 just doesn't matter. Ditto the absence of Flash - there have been a handful of websites that won't work on the iPad, I can live with that.

I use mine primarily for work - it's mobile web and email access on a much bigger and better screen than a phone will ever give you - but it gets a work out on weekends, or when I'm away too.

I should declare, I'm no Apple fanboy.

I hear what you're saying, and have no doubt it works fantastically for you. But security is an issue - you can't carry your Ipad everywhere - e.g to a restaurant every single night. What gets stolen is cameras and computers, which is why I always transfer everything to USB sticks and store them separately - that way they'd have to have steal everything to lose all one's photos.

We'll have to disagree about Flash - every night I'm seeing the ad for the Samsung Galaxy tablet which digs it in - "with access to millions of webpages with Flash". I know I use them on my main computer.

As for E-readers, if one wants to read just novels - they can't be beaten. They are just so much lighter than books and the Ipad. My friends have Ipads and e-readers, and they haven't abandoned their e-readers. And we tend to avoid Kindle - very expensive for what they are, with a smaller range of available books. Is there a version of Adobe Digital Editions for reading Epub books on Ipad?

Cheers,
Renato
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post #38 of 59
3/19/12 at 8:22pm
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Lusting lmao I hope your kidding....more like laughing at the sheep's that bought it :P

It has to many issues and not worth the price tag imo!!!

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26...eported-issues

http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/18/i...ad-heating-up/

Its barely any better then the quadcore tablet on the market now and more are on the way that will be more powerful then the ipad. TBH there's nothing revolutionary about it, and its not a true Retina display. The iphone 4 has more pixels on that tiny screen. Iphone 4 326 pixels per inch while the new Ipad has 264. No thanks.

More pixels per inch, not more pixels.

iPhone 4: 960 x 640
New iPad: 2048 x 1536. That's better than an HDTV that has only 1920 x 1080, and on a 9.7" screen. That's not good enough for you? You prefer one of the tabs that has a higher resolution, I suppose? Which ones are they again?

I am a happily lusting sheep. Apple devices work better because the hardware and software are designed as an integrated system. Other devices that claim better specs always have a crappy user experience despite their purported superiority.

I've used other devices - phones and tabs - and they all feel last-gen. They may have faster processors, but they always feel sluggish and unresponsive.

I'm not a fanboy - I just like to use devices that work well. Apple's do.
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post #39 of 59
3/20/12 at 11:15am
No issues thus far. I am using my ipad professionally and have neither heat problems nor anything less than creamy whites...

Battery life is enough to get me through a day with heavy use.

I am still waiting on my console cable from Redpark so I can work on Cisco devices with this on Iconsole.
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post #40 of 59
3/20/12 at 4:37pm
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More pixels per inch, not more pixels.

iPhone 4: 960 x 640
New iPad: 2048 x 1536. That's better than an HDTV that has only 1920 x 1080, and on a 9.7" screen. That's not good enough for you? You prefer one of the tabs that has a higher resolution, I suppose? Which ones are they again?

I am a happily lusting sheep. Apple devices work better because the hardware and software are designed as an integrated system. Other devices that claim better specs always have a crappy user experience despite their purported superiority.

I've used other devices - phones and tabs - and they all feel last-gen. They may have faster processors, but they always feel sluggish and unresponsive.

I'm not a fanboy - I just like to use devices that work well. Apple's do.

Yes exactly more pixels per square inch, like you said. Thus meaning the ipgone 4 has a better screen. But not resolution, this is where the ipad wins. I've been using 2560 x 1600 resolution for almost 6yrs now, on my samsung pc monitor. It is impressive to see those resolution on a 10" device, dont get me wrong. But imo Apple is always behind on hardware side of thing, dont get me started on the pos notebooks, and I have one. For example their phones didn't have a camera flash lens until the iphone 4 came out. They implemented that simple hardware on their forth revision. I had a SE that had a camera flash most 10yrs ago. It wasn't new. Apple imo purposefully withholds tech for newer revisions as a marketing tool. Look at the latest thing, Siri. I have that working like a charm on my iphone 4, so why would I upgrade to the 4S. But Apple knew it can run it, but they wouldn't sell any new phones if Siri was available on the other models. So the purposely blocked it on the other models. AS for the other manufactures and android which is what most likely your talking about. They just finally implemented hardware acceleration, so these new phones and tables will be able to use gpu acceleration for videos, games ect just like any apple device and the software is way better then before. The days of choppy scrolling on android is a thing of the past.
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post #41 of 59
3/21/12 at 9:23pm
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I hear what you're saying, and have no doubt it works fantastically for you. But security is an issue - you can't carry your Ipad everywhere - e.g to a restaurant every single night. What gets stolen is cameras and computers, which is why I always transfer everything to USB sticks and store them separately - that way they'd have to have steal everything to lose all one's photos.

Yeah, well; when I didn't have it with me it was in a locked bag in a locked hotel room. There's only so much you can do. If one is that worried you upload everything to the web. And, I think the iPad is so light and portable, I often do take it to restaurants at night, even here in Adelaide.


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We'll have to disagree about Flash - every night I'm seeing the ad for the Samsung Galaxy tablet which digs it in - "View millions of websites with Flash". I know I use them on my main computer.

Don't believe the hype. Any website worth it's salt has a 'mobile version' which dispenses with Flash.


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As for E-readers, if one wants to read just novels - they can't be beaten. They are just so much lighter than books and the Ipad. My friends have Ipads and e-readers, and they haven't abandoned their e-readers. And we tend to avoid Kindle - very expensive for what they are, with a smaller range of available books. Is there a version of Adobe Digital Editions for reading Epub books on Ipad?

Well, you don't buy a Kindle, you download the Kindle app to your iPad. No cost involved. Range of books? Over one milllion books through Amazon, and the fact is that Kindle will read everything in ePub format, including PDFs, so if you're loyal to Readings, no problem. Lots of magazines too, from the Economist, to Readers Digest and Mens Health.

The other thing I like about the Kindle app is that you can email documents (including PDFs) to yourself. So I had my itinerary, my camera manual, my friends' postal addresses for old fashioned post cards, contact details - anything that you might once have carried as a piece of paper whilst travelling was on my iPad.
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post #42 of 59
3/21/12 at 9:54pm
Nope, luckily I don't have a gadget fetish.
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post #43 of 59
3/21/12 at 11:28pm
Using the iPad for a year now, I can say that fewer and fewer websites have no mobile version online. Hello, Guerlain, are you sleeping or don't you sell products to your customers, who want to surf your website on their iPhone etc.? How stupid! It does amaze me when big, reputable brands don't seem to pick up at all on what's going on...
I'm not an Apple fanboy (although I seriously love my iPad), but Apple is right in saying that 'Flash' is technology from stone age. It will disappear very soon, so I can say it's not an issue and hardly ever obvious.
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post #44 of 59
3/21/12 at 11:51pm
Yes I'll be frank. In the two years since owning the ipd i have used it almost exclusively everyday. I barely touch my desktop.
Only a handful of times have I not been able to access a page.

And like you Larimar, i wonder when Guerlain, Louis Vuitton and a few others will create a non-flash version.
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post #45 of 59
3/22/12 at 12:34am
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Ues, the Guerlain site is one of thise pesky, stuck-in-2008 flash only sites. Doesn't anyone in LVMH management own an iPad? I guess they just assume their clientele don't.

Even www.pnicolai.com finally got rid of their annoying flash intro.
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post #46 of 59
3/22/12 at 2:11am
I'm holding off buying the new iPad 3 now after hearing rumours of heat and yellow tint screen issues

I was anything but an Apple/Mac fan until I bought the iPhone 4 in August '10. Until that I refused to buy anything Apple because of the hype surrounding the brand and because I built pc's for a hobby for myself, friends and family. But with iPhone 4 they had me - it just worked.

I honestly after 4-6 months got bored because I'm used to tweaking mobile phones and computers to optimise its performance. But in iPhone 4 I was bored, because it worked flawlessly.

I jailbroke it - and to me a jail broken iPhone is the worlds best smartphone.

Then I bought a macbookair, then iPad 1 and and iMac 27 with SSD and extra 27 screen for my work and university studies.

I then bought iPad 2, 2 TimeCapsules and airport express. Everything just works. It's almost boring - but it works.

I love windows 7 - but mac OSx simply put just is that little bit better and smoother running and looking.

I could easily go back to a windows machine and be happy - but I probably won't be doing so.

I waited buying iPhone 4s because I heard of the issues some had, so waited 4-5 months and finally bought my iPhone 4s 64 gb in white 3 weeks ago. I luckily for me received a flawless iPhone 4s

Now i hear of small issues with the new iPad 3, which will make me wait a couple of months before I upgrade from my iPad 2. I think the screen on my iPad 2 has a lot left to be desired - honestly it's quite poor, but I will live with it until I upgrade, when Apple has fixed the early adopter issues with THE NEW IPAD/aka ipad3.

I almost only use my iPad 2 for forum reading and YouTube video watching and so far it has served me well just like iPad 1 did.

Apple has a tendency, like so many other companies, to release new stuff that they sort of expect the early adopters to 'test' before they fix the issues or at least minimise the issues.

This is not fair but in a world where new stuff is released every 10-12 months, they just can't spend the time on proper beta testing - and they know 90% of the early adopters are die hard mac fans, thus they don't complaint as much about issues with their mac /Apple devices as an average person would do.

I've skipped being Apple early adopter beta tester for good and will wait 3-4 months with my upgrade of new Apple products. It's not worth the hassle of being the first person to own a device, that has a higher chance of having issues compared to holding on to a device that works fine and still performs excellent

Just my 2 cents of wisdom for anyone who had the time to read my long post !
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post #47 of 59
3/22/12 at 10:40am
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but Apple is right in saying that 'Flash' is technology from stone age. It will disappear very soon, so I can say it's not an issue and hardly ever obvious.

Apple - "Flash is technology from the stone age, it will disappear soon. ............ even though we could easily put it on the machines we sell you, we won't and you can't have it"
Acolytes - "Yes, you are so wise, as is everything you say and do"

Apple - "Flash is technology from the stone age, it will disappear soon..... but we will be generous to our flock and give you access to YouTube"
Acolytes - "Thank you, Thank you, you are so wise and generous, in everything you do and everything you say"


Quite frankly, if Bill Gates had tried this arrogant caper, he'd have been excoriated mercilessly and unceasingly.
Regards,
Renato
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post #48 of 59
3/22/12 at 10:56am
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There are technical reasons not to use Flash on mobile devices. Apple's reasoning is based on the computational inefficiency of Flash as a system for delivering video and interactive web content. Their devices have better battery life that competitor's tabs. It is a bit dictatorial to ban it rather than giving people the choice.

However, it makes sense when you consider that they go to lengths to make their devices just work without making users consider technical details like this. Many iPad users are non-techy, and would not understand why they get bad battery life sometimes and not notice that it's always when they have marathon Hulu video watching sessions, or whatever.
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post #49 of 59
3/22/12 at 11:05am
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Yeah, well; when I didn't have it with me it was in a locked bag in a locked hotel room. There's only so much you can do. If one is that worried you upload everything to the web. And, I think the iPad is so light and portable, I often do take it to restaurants at night, even here in Adelaide.




Don't believe the hype. Any website worth it's salt has a 'mobile version' which dispenses with Flash.




Well, you don't buy a Kindle, you download the Kindle app to your iPad. No cost involved. Range of books? Over one milllion books through Amazon, and the fact is that Kindle will read everything in ePub format, including PDFs, so if you're loyal to Readings, no problem. Lots of magazines too, from the Economist, to Readers Digest and Mens Health.

The other thing I like about the Kindle app is that you can email documents (including PDFs) to yourself. So I had my itinerary, my camera manual, my friends' postal addresses for old fashioned post cards, contact details - anything that you might once have carried as a piece of paper whilst travelling was on my iPad.

Unfortunately, uploading hundreds of megabytes on the web may be problematic on hotel Wifi.

Others in posts after your one mention Guerlain and Louis Vuitton as only being Flash enabled. There have to be thousands of others.

With respect to Kindle, you are talking from the perspective of some one who already has an Ipad. Even so, would you really take your nice Ipad down to the beach to read a novel -putting suntan lotion all over the touch screen?
For someone without an Ipad who reads novels, a $93 Kobo reader with the button (useful on the beach) or a $130 touch screen Kobo would be much lighter than the Ipad, and much cheaper (I'm not sure who would want to buy those $219 Kindle readers they're selling at Safeway at the moment). My Touch Kobo has a wireless internet browser in it - which wsn't even documented in the manual. But as I said earlier, no argument from me about the Ipad being superior for magazines.

I was puzzling over what you were desribing your Kindle app was doing. At the end of the day, isn't it just transferring data across to the Ipad, the way I would to a netbook using either a USB port or wireless network? When travelling, I'd send myself an email containing all email addresses and anything else I needed, then go to my ISP's Webmail, locate it and store it in a separate folder. That way, I could access that email and its content from any internet computer or internet cafe where you pay to use machines.
Regards,
Renato
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post #50 of 59
3/24/12 at 2:08am
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Unfortunately, uploading hundreds of megabytes on the web may be problematic on hotel Wifi.

I uploaded plenty, and didn't have a problem.


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Others in posts after your one mention Guerlain and Louis Vuitton as only being Flash enabled. There have to be thousands of others. I know I use them on my main computer.

That's part of the experience - of course on your PC you'll find websites using flash - but on a mobile device you'll either be automatically directed to their mobile site, or you'll download the app to access the site. Check out The Age website when next you are near an iPad at DJs, or JB, or Apple.

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With respect to Kindle, you are talking from the perspective of some one who already has an Ipad. Even so, would you really take your nice Ipad down to the beach to read a novel -putting suntan lotion all over the touch screen?

You can turn the page reading books on the iPad just by touching the corner of the screen. I clean the screen regularly in any case, and I think I could wipe my finger before I started reading.


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I was puzzling over what you were desribing your Kindle app was doing. At the end of the day, isn't it just transferring data across to the Ipad, the way I would to a netbook using either a USB port or wireless network? When travelling, I'd send myself an email containing all email addresses and anything else I needed, then go to my ISP's Webmail, locate it and store it in a separate folder. That way, I could access that email and its content from any internet computer or internet cafe where you pay to use machines.

As we all used to - but you have to go on line to do that. No need to do be on line with the Kindle app on the iPad.
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post #51 of 59
3/24/12 at 10:10am
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There are technical reasons not to use Flash on mobile devices. Apple's reasoning is based on the computational inefficiency of Flash as a system for delivering video and interactive web content. Their devices have better battery life that competitor's tabs. It is a bit dictatorial to ban it rather than giving people the choice.

However, it makes sense when you consider that they go to lengths to make their devices just work without making users consider technical details like this. Many iPad users are non-techy, and would not understand why they get bad battery life sometimes and not notice that it's always when they have marathon Hulu video watching sessions, or whatever.

Thanks. I can see that battery life may be a problem for the Ipad playing Flash - but why isn't it a problem for netbooks? I'd have thought that as the main flash site is YouTube, and that is accessible on the Ipad, the other flash sites wouldn't be much of a problem. At least give people the option, and display a flashing battery logo while its playing.
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Renato
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post #52 of 59
3/24/12 at 10:34am
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I uploaded plenty, and didn't have a problem.

I guess things are different nowadays. I sometimes have had difficulty uploading 500Mbytes from my home Optus Cable and Bigpond ADSL.


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That's part of the experience - of course on your PC you'll find websites using flash - but on a mobile device you'll either be automatically directed to their mobile site, or you'll download the app to access the site. Check out The Age website when next you are near an iPad at DJs, or JB, or Apple.

So if apps exist to access all Flash sites - why don't Apple just make them part of the package? Why make you do all the work they should have done?


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You can turn the page reading books on the iPad just by touching the corner of the screen. I clean the screen regularly in any case, and I think I could wipe my finger before I started reading.

Well, if you want to take your Ipad to the beach, that's your call. My friend was telling me today one reason why her Kobo is better than her Ipad - on plane flights they would make her switch off her Ipad during take off and landing, but no one ever complains about her reading her Kobo.



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As we all used to - but you have to go on line to do that. No need to do be on line with the Kindle app on the iPad.

You've missed my point. Anything you can transfer to your Ipad, I can transfer to a netbook without requiring a Kindle app. But if you are wandering around a city you can still email people from other computers, if all the email addresses are on your webmail. Similarly, if your Ipad or my netbook get stolen or break down, it'll be a nuisance, but you will still be able to send emails to people using webmail from internet cafes and the like.
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Renato
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post #53 of 59
3/24/12 at 11:26am
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So if apps exist to access all Flash sites - why don't Apple just make them part of the package? Why make you do all the work they should have done?

Not all flash sites. Flash sites that have dedicated apps must be built from the ground up without flash, as native iOS apps. That's the point of having a separate app. These apps are developed to deliver pretty much the same content in a format that was developed from scratch for iOS.

Apple even bans apps produced using porting tools that automatically convert flash to iOS apps (Adobe tried to sell such a tool for a while until Apple banned the apps, if I understood the story correctly). They want the apps to be designed as iOS apps so that they will benefit from all of the features of iOS and perform better.

There is no back door to get flash to run on an iPad. Apple is consistent about this. They see it as outdated, inefficient technology that is not suited to mobile devices, and they are driving the market to move away from it. They achieve market-beating battery life by meticulous power budgeting, and flash is a power hog that just doesn't make sense to use. Yes, any netbook can run it, but if you watch flash video sites non-stop on a netbook, you will get about an hour of battery life, maybe less. Do the same on the YouTube app on an iPad, and you will get several hours easily.

Apple has always tended to be ahead of the market on technology shifts - WiFi, USB ports, firewire, HTML5 (instead of flash) and now Thunderbolt. Sometimes they get it wrong, but they are right more than anyone else about this stuff. I would be willing to bet that flash sites will be about as relevant to the WWW landscape as MySpace in 3 years.
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post #54 of 59
3/24/12 at 2:25pm
^ Honestly, I will take my outrageously good battery life on the iPad over Flash videos any day of the week. And I agree that Flash videos are becoming increasingly rare. The foresight of that decision becomes more apparent all the time.

I used to snark at Apple for their incompatibility, but once I started using their stuff, and realized that they simply refuse to tow everybody else's dead weight, I gained respect for their willingness to cut the rope on zombie tech. Apple happily accepts the good stuff that keeps up with their standards (Office Mac 2011 is amazing), but drops the hideous and the insecure (Flash) instead of prolonging the debacle, and I've come to appreciate that it's the right thing to do.

I will say this - the iPad is an amazing vacation computer. I totally agree with Dr. Rudi - they are VERY handy, and basically slip into your camera bag or daypack like a book.
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post #55 of 59
3/24/12 at 4:56pm
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Well, if you want to take your Ipad to the beach, that's your call.

Well, I wouldn't but I was trying to answer your question about sunscreen and touch screens.


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My friend was telling me today one reason why her Kobo is better than her Ipad - on plane flights they would make her switch off her Ipad during take off and landing, but no one ever complains about her reading her Kobo.

And that has everything to do with the ignorance of flight crew. The iPad has a flight mode, which I switch mine to before every journey. In something like a dozen flights over 35 days not once was I told to switch it off.



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You've missed my point. Anything you can transfer to your Ipad, I can transfer to a netbook without requiring a Kindle app. But if you are wandering around a city you can still email people from other computers, if all the email addresses are on your webmail. Similarly, if your Ipad or my netbook get stolen or break down, it'll be a nuisance, but you will still be able to send emails to people using webmail from internet cafes and the like.

And, with respect, you've missed mine. It's not about email, or email addresses. My point was about access to documents. All those pieces of paper we use to carry when travelling - no more. They're all on the iPad, and I don't need an internet connection to access them.

Really Renato, I'm not here to convince you - I gave you my perspective about how I recently used the iPad to manage the 2,500 (or so) photographs my GF and I took on our sub-continent trip, which was one of your original questions; and we've grown like topsy from there. It seems to me there's a lot you are yet to understand or experience about the iPad, so if you're sufficiently interested - and if you are still a gentleman of leisure - go and spend a few hours playing with one in a retail store. You'll learn a lot.
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post #56 of 59
3/24/12 at 5:15pm
I'm tempting to buy iPad2, as the prices are lower now
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post #57 of 59
3/25/12 at 10:20am
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And, with respect, you've missed mine. It's not about email, or email addresses. My point was about access to documents. All those pieces of paper we use to carry when travelling - no more. They're all on the iPad, and I don't need an internet connection to access them.

Really Renato, I'm not here to convince you - I gave you my perspective about how I recently used the iPad to manage the 2,500 (or so) photographs my GF and I took on our sub-continent trip, which was one of your original questions; and we've grown like topsy from there. It seems to me there's a lot you are yet to understand or experience about the iPad, so if you're sufficiently interested - and if you are still a gentleman of leisure - go and spend a few hours playing with one in a retail store. You'll learn a lot.

The missed point - all that stuff that you took over seas on your Ipad, I also took overseas on my netbook three years ago - I only mentioned putting stuff on webmail for when one doesn't have the Ipad on one's self - either because one doesn't want to carry it all the time, or it is stolen.

I played Scrabble versus my friend on an Ipad today (each of us had an Ipad in multiplayer wifi mode). We lost contact quite a few times for no apparent reason, though we managed to regain contact without losing the games. I was a bit disappointed with the game, because it doesn't disable the hint mode (where the Ipad suggests the best play) - which enables every player to cheat. Nor did it force a player to forfeit a move when a word was played which is not in the dictionary - which is contrary to the rules of the game. Other than for that, the games were quite enjoyable, since we're both honorable and adhered to the rules and spirit of the game.

I'd say the Ipad was about three times heavier than my Kobo unit. My friend's wife who has a Kobo and Ipad is adamant that the Ipad is great for magazines, but since it doesn't have the E-Ink technology of most e-readers, reading novels is better on her Kobo.

One curious thing though. I was telling my friend of some interesting things I'd viewed on Youtube using an Android device I have plugged into my TV. So he went to search for them on his Ipad using the same keywords as me. While the main entries came up, the secondary ones we also were after didn't. It was very puzzling that Youtube threw up differing results like that, and we never found the videos we wanted to find.
Regards,
Renato
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post #58 of 59
3/25/12 at 10:29am
It's cute, and sleek, and cool-looking.
Lusting after it? Definitely not.

Gadgetry is interesting and it may (enphasys on may) simplify some tasks in the short term, but they are not an absolute necessity.

cheers
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5/2/12 at 7:37am
No, my sin quota is done.
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