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Craving this accord: Vetiver - resins - birch tar

post #1 of 48
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Im craving perfumes with this motif:

Vetiver - resins - birch tar

Any suggestions?
post #2 of 48
l'artisan Coeur de Vetiver Sacre maybe?
post #3 of 48
Askew - by Humiecki & Graef (missing the resins)
Rosier Ardent - by Nez a Nez (missing the birch tar)
post #4 of 48
La Fumee by Miller Harris (missing the vetiver)
post #5 of 48
coeur de vetiver sacre, la fumee and askew miss the mark a lot, if I get what you mean.
however, you might be lucky

do you think patchouli and black pepper would be good additions to that mix?
post #6 of 48
Diptyque Essence Of John Galliano?
post #7 of 48
I don't dare recommend you anything.
post #8 of 48
Man, this is pretty tough for several reasons...

1) You don't want something that includes those notes. You want something that smells EXACTLY like the sum of the parts. LOL
2) I've been looking for something similar many times but, unfortunatley, I haven't come across many fragrances...
3) The John Galliano suggested by Suga could fit the bill but, if memory serves me well, you already own it.

Here are a few suggestions that, IMO, come close to what you ask

Athunis by Sigilli
Fumidus by Profumum
Tuba by Mekkanische Rose


My best suggestion, however, is to layer the Norma Kamali Incense with Onda Extrait. I'm serious
post #9 of 48
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Originally Posted by hednic View Post

Askew - by Humiecki & Graef (missing the resins)
Rosier Ardent - by Nez a Nez (missing the birch tar)

Don't like former, will try latter. Thanks Hednic.

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Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post

La Fumee by Miller Harris (missing the vetiver)

Pretty good suggestion. Didn't love it though.

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Originally Posted by sarıpatates View Post

coeur de vetiver sacre, la fumee and askew miss the mark a lot, if I get what you mean.
however, you might be lucky

do you think patchouli and black pepper would be good additions to that mix?

I wish I was lucky. But no. And yes you do get what I mean. So suggest away.
Yes patchouli and black pepper would be okay too.

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Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post

Diptyque Essence Of John Galliano?

Have it. Great suggestion. Mainly use it to freshen up the bathroom though. Cannot use it as a perfume anymore lol. Associated it with the bathroom.

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Originally Posted by moore View Post

I don't dare recommend you anything.

Why not! Give it a shot.
post #10 of 48
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Originally Posted by alfarom View Post

Man, this is pretty tough for several reasons...

1) You don't want something that includes those notes. You want something that smells EXACTLY like the sum of the parts. LOL
2) I've been looking for something similar many times but, unfortunatley, I haven't come across many fragrances...
3) The John Galliano suggested by Suga could fit the bill but, if memory serves me well, you already own it.

Here are a few suggestions that, IMO, come close to what you ask

Athunis by Sigilli
Fumidus by Profumum
Tuba by Mekkanische Rose


My best suggestion, however, is to layer the Norma Kamali Incense with Onda Extrait. I'm serious

You were one of the people I was waiting for to respond
And i think you'd also benefit from this query.

1- exactly!!!!!!!! U r number waan

2- dig deeper man
3- my bathroom owns it LOL

Will try your suggestions !!
post #11 of 48
Whatever you'll do, you'll have to put your nostrils on the Norma Kamali Incense!
post #12 of 48
Have you given the following a try?

Cuir by Mona di Orio
Versilia Vintage Boise by Profumi del Forte
Black by Undergreen

Or how about purchasing some Javanese vetiver essential oil?
post #13 of 48
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Originally Posted by Trebor View Post

Black by Undergreen

What's your take on Black, Trebor? I've rapidly tested it in Berlin and found it rather underwhelming. It has some interesting accords but overall a sort of generic modern vibe...I promised myself to revisit it on a second time but I haven't had the chance yet...
post #14 of 48
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Originally Posted by alfarom View Post

What's your take on Black, Trebor? I've rapidly tested it in Berlin and found it rather underwhelming. It has some interesting accords but overall a sort of generic modern vibe...I promised myself to revisit it on a second time but I haven't had the chance yet...

I completely agree but it kind of satisfies Saif's criteria. Anyway, another man's trash...
post #15 of 48
I said you might be lucky because I made that mix for myself when I too was searching for it. It's pretty good, the vetiver is rooty/nutty variety. There is also choya loban in it which by itself smells like a mix of birch tar, smoke and resin ( it was resin once )
post #16 of 48
The room perfume Vetiver de Java by Parfums de Nicolai is a superbitter vetiver-leather, especially as a candle. Unfortunately, it doesn't work on the body, I tried the parfum d'ambiance on skin, and it's just too rough and lacks complexity when smelled this way. But you could use it for your bathroom - so you'd stop wasting perfect vintage juice!

cacio
post #17 of 48
Andy Tauer- Lonestar Memories:

Geranium, Carrot seed, Clary sage, Birchtar, Cistus, Jasmine, Cedar wood, Myrrh, Tonka, Vetiver, Sandalwood.
post #18 of 48
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Originally Posted by alfarom View Post

Whatever you'll do, you'll have to put your nostrils on the Norma Kamali Incense!

I'll seek it out.

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Originally Posted by Trebor View Post

Have you given the following a try?

Cuir by Mona di Orio
Versilia Vintage Boise by Profumi del Forte
Black by Undergreen

Or how about purchasing some Javanese vetiver essential oil?

Yes and uninaginably so Cuir was too much for me. And I am one who dotes on challenging over the top perfumes.
Have yet to try the latter two. Alfarom, how is the Profumi del Forte?

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Originally Posted by sarıpatates View Post

I said you might be lucky because I made that mix for myself when I too was searching for it. It's pretty good, the vetiver is rooty/nutty variety. There is also choya loban in it which by itself smells like a mix of birch tar, smoke and resin ( it was resin once )

Wow sounds really nice. Is the vetiver you used single origin? Haitian or Indian Ocean?


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Originally Posted by cacio View Post

The room perfume Vetiver de Java by Parfums de Nicolai is a superbitter vetiver-leather, especially as a candle. Unfortunately, it doesn't work on the body, I tried the parfum d'ambiance on skin, and it's just too rough and lacks complexity when smelled this way. But you could use it for your bathroom - so you'd stop wasting perfect vintage juice!

cacio

LOL I never thought of it that way. I am wasting perfect vintage juice and have been meaning to re-stock it. I hope it's in stock.
Now that you made me realize that Ill probably use L'Occitane verbena or Lavendar for the bathroom.

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Originally Posted by Duke Hunt View Post

Andy Tauer- Lonestar Memories:

Geranium, Carrot seed, Clary sage, Birchtar, Cistus, Jasmine, Cedar wood, Myrrh, Tonka, Vetiver, Sandalwood.

Yes this is a good one.
post #19 of 48
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Hoping others will chime in.
post #20 of 48
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Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post

Have yet to try the latter two. Alfarom, how is the Profumi del Forte?

The Undergreen is a modern masculine that smells much like a designer in disguise. I'm wearing the I Profumi Del Forte right now. It's a pretty nice woody/resins concoction with a sparkling aromatic citrus and lavender opening and a moderately sweet drydown. There's something in it that vaguely reminds me of Jubilation XXV (maybe the sweet-ish resinous base?) and something else I can't put my finger on. Overall this is a very nice fragrace and, as usual with I Profumi Del Forte, high-quality stuff but, if I understand what you're after, this may result a tad too sweet and not as austere (or challenging) as you want. That being said, if you'll have the chance, give it a test...this is very nice.
post #21 of 48
I'm getting a more precise idea on Versilia Vintage Boisè. I don't know if this is by Duchafour (considering he orchstrated a bunch of the I Profumi Del Forte), but it definitely has his style. Part Jubilation, part Kyoto, part Timbuktu with a touch of Eau D'Italie (the line not the eponymous fragrance) thrown in...
post #22 of 48
Maybe have CB I Hate Perfume make you a custom fragrance. It seems within your budget.
post #23 of 48
have you smelled Black Tourmaline by Olivier Durbano?
post #24 of 48
Czech & Speake - Vetiver Vert is very resinous.
post #25 of 48
Myrhh Ardente
Kolnisch Juchten
Russisch Leder
Fireside Instense - Sonoma Scent Studio

Curious as to what scents you own/tried where you get this vet/resins/birch tar motif... but it's not quite hitting the sweatspot?
I see you know fumidus and eau du fier.
post #26 of 48
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Originally Posted by lovingthealien View Post

Maybe have CB I Hate Perfume make you a custom fragrance. It seems within your budget.

lol

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Originally Posted by volley2 View Post

have you smelled Black Tourmaline by Olivier Durbano?

I did but from a vial. Then I spilled it on my laps. So need to smell it again.

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Originally Posted by Kron View Post

Czech & Speake - Vetiver Vert is very resinous.

I feel it'll be more green than dark.

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Originally Posted by DuNezDeBuzier View Post

Myrhh Ardente
Kolnisch Juchten
Russisch Leder
Fireside Instense - Sonoma Scent Studio

Curious as to what scents you own/tried where you get this vet/resins/birch tar motif... but it's not quite hitting the sweatspot?
I see you know fumidus and eau du fier.

Sweatspot? Eww LOL
They hit several sweet spots but I want MOAR.

Like:

Fumidus
Eau di fier
Or Black
Essence of John Galliano
Parfum d'Habit
Cuir - Mona di Orio
post #27 of 48
ahaha, I've got a long run through the woods on my mind.

How about Tuscan Leather? That might just hit the swweeetspot (or scratch the sweatspot) too
post #28 of 48
I'm at a loss; was going to suggest Mona di Orio Cuir.

Have you tried Dior's Leather Oud?
post #29 of 48
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Originally Posted by Kagey View Post

I'm at a loss; was going to suggest Mona di Orio Cuir.

Have you tried Dior's Leather Oud?

He's got LO already. =)
post #30 of 48
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He's got LO already. =)

He already own LO, yeah, and he also gifted half of the wolrd's population of a bottle of it Me included LOL
post #31 of 48
Etat Libre d'Orange's Fat Electrician.
post #32 of 48
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Originally Posted by DuNezDeBuzier View Post

ahaha, I've got a long run through the woods on my mind.

How about Tuscan Leather? That might just hit the swweeetspot (or scratch the sweatspot) too

It's very nice but not reminiscent of what I'm looking for.

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Originally Posted by Kagey View Post

I'm at a loss; was going to suggest Mona di Orio Cuir.

Have you tried Dior's Leather Oud?

Yep like volley2 says.


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Originally Posted by alfarom View Post

He already own LO, yeah, and he also gifted half of the wolrd's population of a bottle of it Me included LOL

Well just you and one more guy.

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Originally Posted by ajmc View Post

Etat Libre d'Orange's Fat Electrician.

Very nice but not reminiscent of the title accord.
post #33 of 48
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Originally Posted by volley2 View Post

He's got LO already. =)

Sorry! Will check next time!
post #34 of 48
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Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post

Very nice but not reminiscent of the title accord.

It seems there are quite a few vetivers combined with different resins. But as for birch tar, that's a different story.
I'm assuming your looking for a vetiver centered fragrance.

Maybe you could try a shot of Vetiver 46 with a dab of Patchouli 24 underneath.
post #35 of 48
This is tricky indeed. The closest thing I can think of is Amouage's Memoir Man. There's a noticeable vetiver note but it's part of a dry ashy woody accord (sandalwood, some smoky/ashy guiac, oakmoss). Birch tar? Maybe a bit - the scent is kind of smoky, actually it's more like carbonized wood. There is mint and absinthe/wormwood though, which kind of mimics the wintergreen elements of birch. There's a nice incense note too, although the scent is more woody than resinous.
post #36 of 48
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Originally Posted by ajmc View Post

It seems there are quite a few vetivers combined with different resins. But as for birch tar, that's a different story.
I'm assuming your looking for a vetiver centered fragrance.

Maybe you could try a shot of Vetiver 46 with a dab of Patchouli 24 underneath.

Yes you're right there there are many vetiver and resins medleys.

I'm not looking for something vetiver dominant though. Just as the title says.

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Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post

This is tricky indeed. The closest thing I can think of is Amouage's Memoir Man. There's a noticeable vetiver note but it's part of a dry ashy woody accord (sandalwood, some smoky/ashy guiac, oakmoss). Birch tar? Maybe a bit - the scent is kind of smoky, actually it's more like carbonized wood. There is mint and absinthe/wormwood though, which kind of mimics the wintergreen elements of birch. There's a nice incense note too, although the scent is more woody than resinous.

Yes Memoir Man is a good example.

Ay others?
post #37 of 48
I was gonna say Memoir Man - sort of.

But I think you should talk to Dominique Dubrana (www.profumo.it). Have you visited his Social Group here? Interesting discussion.
post #38 of 48
Thread Starter 
I'll check up on that mr.reasonable.

Thanks.
post #39 of 48
Winter Woods by Sonoma Scent Studios.

http://www.sonomascentstudio.com/winterwoodsO.shtml
post #40 of 48
Maybe discontinued- but still available on Douglas.de for some odd reasons - G Man by Gainsboro may be an additional suggestion to the already great frags mentioned so far. Though, only a partial hit, since it has virtually no perceptible vetiver at all, instead the resins and birch tar notes are nearly overwhelmingly strong in this one
post #41 of 48
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Originally Posted by ajmc View Post

Winter Woods by Sonoma Scent Studios.

http://www.sonomascentstudio.com/winterwoodsO.shtml

Coincidentally some perfumista angel is sending me this. Lookin forward to trying it.

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Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post

Maybe discontinued- but still available on Douglas.de for some odd reasons - G Man by Gainsboro may be an additional suggestion to the already great frags mentioned so far. Though, only a partial hit, since it has virtually no perceptible vetiver at all, instead the resins and birch tar notes are nearly overwhelmingly strong in this one

I'll keep this in mind.
post #42 of 48
I'd have +1'd on the Black Tourmaline, I'm not a fan, but it's pretty much what you described...ish
Was also randomly going to throw in Never Never Land by Smell Bent, but then I rememebred it has no birch tar nice vetiver, resins and amber and a wicked rose.
post #43 of 48
hedonist, have you got some examples of fragrances that exemplify this accord for you? I'm not sure I've experienced this.
post #44 of 48
Dawn Spencer Hurwitz's Vetyver fits this description to a "T". See the review here.
post #45 of 48
Another scent that comes to mind, although I haven't given it a proper testing yet (just an arm swipe once, and testing on paper) is Amouage's Tribute. Lots of smoky vetiver there, incense, dark jasmine, a big patch note, etc.
post #46 of 48
There are NOT a lot of fragrances that have birch tar in them. Sometimes frankincense can double for birch bark tar pretty and do it more subtly too. These all have at least two of vetiver, birch tar, tree resins, along with other appropriate stuff.

Some ideas here:

Slumberhouse Norne
Profumum Fumidus
Slumberhouse Vikt
Morabito Or Black
Black Tourmaline
Type B Henrik Vibskov
Bond No. 9 Harrod's Ltd. Edition Oud
Profumum Arso
post #47 of 48
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Originally Posted by forfreddie View Post

I'd have +1'd on the Black Tourmaline, I'm not a fan, but it's pretty much what you described...ish
Was also randomly going to throw in Never Never Land by Smell Bent, but then I rememebred it has no birch tar nice vetiver, resins and amber and a wicked rose.

I remember thinking to myself that Black Tourmaline was restrained in creation. I expected/wanted more.

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Originally Posted by laph View Post

hedonist, have you got some examples of fragrances that exemplify this accord for you? I'm not sure I've experienced this.

Can't quite out my finger on it but nothing specific. Basically I am aware of each of these notes in individuality and know that they would be heavenly in an accord.

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Originally Posted by Off-Scenter View Post

Dawn Spencer Hurwitz's Vetyver fits this description to a "T". See the review here.

Thanks Off-Scenter. I just sent an email to DSH to see whether they'll post to the uae.

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Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post

Another scent that comes to mind, although I haven't given it a proper testing yet (just an arm swipe once, and testing on paper) is Amouage's Tribute. Lots of smoky vetiver there, incense, dark jasmine, a big patch note, etc.

Tribute is nice but lacks the birch tar and resins note. Plenty of tobacco. Divine in it's own right.

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Originally Posted by Buzzlepuff View Post

There are NOT a lot of fragrances that have birch tar in them. Sometimes frankincense can double for birch bark tar pretty and do it more subtly too. These all have at least two of vetiver, birch tar, tree resins, along with other appropriate stuff.

Some ideas here:

Slumberhouse Norne
Profumum Fumidus
Slumberhouse Vikt
Morabito Or Black
Black Tourmaline
Type B Henrik Vibskov
Bond No. 9 Harrod's Ltd. Edition Oud
Profumum Arso

Fumidus is appropriate but i didn't like it much.
Or Black - I have in vintage.

I tried Arso again yesterday. Nice also but there is a sweet note that doesn't sit well with me.

I'll try the other ones too.
post #48 of 48
Thread Starter 
Thanks to a generous basenoter I was able to try Kolnisch Juchten.

It perfectly ascribes to my original request.

Those interested should definitely try it. A bit short lived but surely worth it.
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