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post #1 of 42
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Today was a wonderful encounter with a brand new fruit: durian. I've heard about these for years; a gigantic, mace shaped tropical fruit with apparently a great taste and awful smell. In case you're unfamiliar, here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian

I bought some pre-cut into some segments and plastic wrapped from a local T&T Market ( a kind of Chinese supermarket chain ). I must give kudos to whoever packaged it up as it did not smell in that state.

Getting home and trying my first segment, I was first struck by a banana-guava scent, then overwhelmed by the smell of roasted garlic. "Okay, here goes nothing," I thought biting into it.

The first taste was a bit challenging, I will say. The texture is very pleasing - sort of like gelato left to warm up some, mixed with a pasty banana-cherimoya-mango type of creaminess. The taste is an ongoing battle between what seems like a host of different fruits ( banana, guava, overripe pear, and cherimoya come to mind, though it's very close to white sapote if you've had that, with an odd hint of pineapple occasionally ) and different alliums ( roasted garlic, carmelized onions, perhaps a touch of raw leek ), and some weird background smells and flavors ( coffee, sherry, rubber, maybe even skunk? ). It is also very intensely sweet. It's repulsive and appealing simultaneously, like someone went through a kitchen and literally decided to add a touch of everything.

I didn't know what to make of my first one, as descriptions had prepared me more for a stinky cheese type of fruit ( I was thinking pie angloys papaya, the garlic was an abrupt surprise ), but once I tried to think of it as a sweet savory dish ( it's like alive, fruity hummus! ) rather than a sweet with a bad savory clash ( it's like ice cream with raw onion! ) I enjoyed it. I've now eaten the other segments I bought, both because I enjoyed it a little more each bite ( though still feel a little ill at ease with it ), and because it stunk up the fridge something chronic it was either eat it now or have everything ELSE taste of durian.

For those who've tried it - what's your take?
post #2 of 42
Not enough Chinese and south east asians around here to have durians - I've been wanting to try it for quite a while. A HK friend told me it's a strictly love/hate thing - either one loves it (and you seem to fall in this camp) or one hates it - his parents were in different camps and his father forced her mother to eat said fruit outside of the house. However, the description he gave was more along the line of poop than garlic - and not just the taste, also the consistency.

I have tried durian candies (back when the intriguing "candy" store Aji Ichiban was in Chinatown NY), and they definitely correspond to my friend's description.

cacio
post #3 of 42
I smiled when I went to the German wikipedia to see that it was also reffered to as 'Zibetbaum', which is 'Civet Tree' in English.
post #4 of 42
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I smiled when I went to the German wikipedia to see that it was also reffered to as 'Zibetbaum', which is 'Civet Tree' in English.

Interesting. If anything, I'd say civet meets fruit would be more normal. ( Didn't they used to use civet in fruit flavorings? )

It is enormously stinky, however, and pungent in a similar way. Something I may not have gotten across in my first post is the sheer power of it. I've been burning incense all day to cover it, yet the smell of it ( now entirely disposed of, wrappers and all ) lingers on. The garlic-y smell isn't bad, but the potency meant after eating, I threw out the wrapper and seed and washed the bowl; it's just not a smell you want around that much.

Weirdly, something I've really noticed now is that it gets into you the way garlic does. My breath and sweat smell like durian now.
post #5 of 42
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Originally Posted by cacio View Post

Not enough Chinese and south east asians around here to have durians - I've been wanting to try it for quite a while. A HK friend told me it's a strictly love/hate thing - either one loves it (and you seem to fall in this camp) or one hates it - his parents were in different camps and his father forced her mother to eat said fruit outside of the house. However, the description he gave was more along the line of poop than garlic - and not just the taste, also the consistency.

Well, perhaps your coprophagist friend knows more about that than I would ( ), but I'll say the smell of my particular one did not remind me of number two. Though, there is one sort of indirect link: it smells a lot like the spice asafoetida, with that similar onions-from-hell air to it.


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Originally Posted by cacio View Post

I have tried durian candies (back when the intriguing "candy" store Aji Ichiban was in Chinatown NY), and they definitely correspond to my friend's description.

Oh! Durian candy. Interesting.

For some reason I don't want to make this into sweet food. I'm thinking I might want to mash one of these into a thick curry, like a korma or something...
post #6 of 42
I cannot stand it, just because of the stink. Cashew fruits have the stench-factor, too. (Did you know that the cashew nut is the stem of a fruit that's popular in Brazil?) But if you want to know what's just like Durian without the stink... it's jackfruit, and I LOVE it.
post #7 of 42
I'll have it once every season. Being geographically close to South East Asia we regularly see it sold in supermarkets.
It tastes nice, not outstanding, but smells terrible.
Its not as bad as media/drama-queens make it out to be.
Its not a smell that makes me gag. Its a smell that I hope goes away soon. Tolerable.

My favorite SE.A fruit is the Mangosteen.
post #8 of 42
I purchased a Durian milkshake in the ID in Seattle and decided to go shopping in Uwajimaya. People seemed to clear a path for me and customers were keeping their distance. At one point, another customer suggested to me that the shake was quite fragrant, perhaps too fragrant for shopping in public. I finished it outside with the smokers and chewed some gum before going back inside.
post #9 of 42
I've tried it several times in my travels to Malaysia and Indonesia and it's pretty disgusting. I'd describe it as cross between smelly feet and vomit.
post #10 of 42
Lol. Love the reactions posted. I'm not a fan of the durian's pungent headache-inducing scent. It is overpowering, with monstrous sillage if not adequately packaged, to the extent the local subway has even instituted a ban on its transportation on public carriages. But the taste, acquired it may be, is sublime. Once I start on one I find it hard to stop. It just gets better with each bite. No surprise there for the durian is known as the 'king of fruits' in this part of the world. I wonder if it will ever be incorporated into fragrances. Surely there's room for its sulphuric, creamy, even slightly animalic profile.
post #11 of 42
I love Durian and I am a white male European. I can eat it all day! Its a fantastic fruit. . Sillage the best there is - Projection manificient! Downside is the pugnet smell along the lines of a Public Works sewer farm. It also sticks to your skin and once on your clothes thats it - your clothes are finished (burn them or throw them away).
A great fruit I have eaten this with curry or even with a bottle of coke (lethal) I have traveled far and wide to choose the best variety Java, Sumatra, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Phillipines BUT the Rolls-Royce has to be the Southern Thailand Durian. The seed is so small and the flesh is so thick and sweet (estasy). Its not for everyone for sure BUT if you can not be put off by the smell then this fruit is just orgasmic! This is my Portrait OF a Lady of all fruit!
post #12 of 42
I bought one at a market for my dad as he had raved about it from his army days. It was unfortunately early in the evening on my very first date with a very nice man and we were going to the cinema. Although it had gone into three carrier bags, the spines had popped little holes in the bag and these little whiffs kept escaping from under the seats in front and people kept staring at us thinking somebody had trouble with wind. After trying to watch a film with tears of mirth streaming down our cheeks, we then went for a drink at a bar. We covered the bag with both our coats and still little whiffs kept escaping. When we came to leave, and pulled the coats off this horrendous stench filled the whole bar and we fled...

When we finally came to eat it, it looked like the pale yolk of a hard boiled egg to me in a brain shape and I found the flavour quite hard to like alongside the smell. It was very pastelike and powerful, quite rough on the back of the throat and not gentle like fruit. We maybe had an overipe one? I didn't know what it was supposed to be like.

I can see it may be very nice in curry but I struggled to find it pleasant although I wouldn't say it was horrid.

That nice man became my husband so Durian fruit has rather a special place in my affections for an unforgettable date.
post #13 of 42
I love Durian ! It's real love it or hate kind of weird fruit- the smell is all pervasive . You gotta love that smell to love Durian . *LOL*
I tend to use a fork and knife to remove the flesh from the seeds to stop my hands from stinking.
I've had Durian cream in Singapore - as a dessert at hotels and also cake topped with durian cream - delish . The chef would not part with his secret recipe !
Durian is full of vitamins and a meal in itself albeit a really stinky one.
post #14 of 42
I've used the sort of stinky asafoetida in a recipe I once had, for a rather long winded & complicated snack food recipe, and the author proclaimed, once you get used to eating this, you can't leave it alone. Well, that part was true. But it certainly was pungent stuff.
For the Durian, I'd like to try it. If I ever see it in the one store around here that often carries very unusual items in the produce department, I'll buy some.
post #15 of 42
Durian aka "The king of fruits", I admit i love it to death! I also admit that i did not like the smell the first time i tried it and was reluctant to eat it, but i've since became a huge fan of it, and now is a food staple, it smells bad no doubt, but it tastes very creamy and very delicious, but too much can be sickening. It's a delicacy!
post #16 of 42
As far as I am concerned, my reply is (nearly) irrelevant and off-topic, since I never tried it.

But after all I read, I am the more intrigued, curious and motivated to try it asap.
post #17 of 42
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Originally Posted by Hillaire View Post

I cannot stand it, just because of the stink. Cashew fruits have the stench-factor, too. (Did you know that the cashew nut is the stem of a fruit that's popular in Brazil?) But if you want to know what's just like Durian without the stink... it's jackfruit, and I LOVE it.

Jackfruit is great! I've never had it fresh though - just frozen. Tasted rather different than durian to me, too, kind of more leaning to mango.

I am very curious about cashew fruits now.

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Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post

My favorite SE.A fruit is the Mangosteen.

I've always wanted to like mangosteen more than I do. It's always praised. To me it's nature's jelly bean - nice and candy-sweet, but doesn't wow me.

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Originally Posted by JDBIII View Post

I purchased a Durian milkshake in the ID in Seattle and decided to go shopping in Uwajimaya. People seemed to clear a path for me and customers were keeping their distance. At one point, another customer suggested to me that the shake was quite fragrant, perhaps too fragrant for shopping in public. I finished it outside with the smokers and chewed some gum before going back inside.

I want a durian smoothie now. Perhaps I'll make one!

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Originally Posted by kccparis View Post

I love Durian and I am a white male European. I can eat it all day! Its a fantastic fruit. . Sillage the best there is - Projection manificient! Downside is the pugnet smell along the lines of a Public Works sewer farm. It also sticks to your skin and once on your clothes thats it - your clothes are finished (burn them or throw them away).
A great fruit I have eaten this with curry or even with a bottle of coke (lethal) I have traveled far and wide to choose the best variety Java, Sumatra, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Phillipines BUT the Rolls-Royce has to be the Southern Thailand Durian. The seed is so small and the flesh is so thick and sweet (estasy). Its not for everyone for sure BUT if you can not be put off by the smell then this fruit is just orgasmic! This is my Portrait OF a Lady of all fruit!

Your travels are inspiring. Thailand wasn't on my list of to-visit places... Until now.

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Originally Posted by mumsy View Post

I bought one at a market for my dad as he had raved about it from his army days. It was unfortunately early in the evening on my very first date with a very nice man and we were going to the cinema. Although it had gone into three carrier bags, the spines had popped little holes in the bag and these little whiffs kept escaping from under the seats in front and people kept staring at us thinking somebody had trouble with wind. After trying to watch a film with tears of mirth streaming down our cheeks, we then went for a drink at a bar. We covered the bag with both our coats and still little whiffs kept escaping. When we came to leave, and pulled the coats off this horrendous stench filled the whole bar and we fled...

When we finally came to eat it, it looked like the pale yolk of a hard boiled egg to me in a brain shape and I found the flavour quite hard to like alongside the smell. It was very pastelike and powerful, quite rough on the back of the throat and not gentle like fruit. We maybe had an overipe one? I didn't know what it was supposed to be like.

I can see it may be very nice in curry but I struggled to find it pleasant although I wouldn't say it was horrid.

That nice man became my husband so Durian fruit has rather a special place in my affections for an unforgettable date.

Wonderful story!

I've only tried two durians ( another came home with me today ), but I suspect they vary. The first one did have that slight "burn" in the throat, but the second one was much sweeter, no burn, though both smelled as strong.
post #18 of 42
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Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post

Lol. Love the reactions posted. I'm not a fan of the durian's pungent headache-inducing scent. It is overpowering, with monstrous sillage if not adequately packaged, to the extent the local subway has even instituted a ban on its transportation on public carriages. But the taste, acquired it may be, is sublime. Once I start on one I find it hard to stop. It just gets better with each bite. No surprise there for the durian is known as the 'king of fruits' in this part of the world. I wonder if it will ever be incorporated into fragrances. Surely there's room for its sulphuric, creamy, even slightly animalic profile.

A local from durian land.

I definitely can see this used in perfume. One might have to tone down the sulphur, but there are a lot of interesting facets when combined with heavy floral, maybe chypre or incense, that could be very interesting. I mean, if civet and asafoetida are used, well, why not durian?

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Originally Posted by IngaMi View Post

I've used the sort of stinky asafoetida in a recipe I once had, for a rather long winded & complicated snack food recipe, and the author proclaimed, once you get used to eating this, you can't leave it alone. Well, that part was true. But it certainly was pungent stuff.

I'd love to know your asafoetida recipe.

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Originally Posted by IngaMi View Post

For the Durian, I'd like to try it. If I ever see it in the one store around here that often carries very unusual items in the produce department, I'll buy some.

If you don't find it there, there are T&T markets both north of you in Edmonton and south of you in Calgary. They advertise their locations on their bags, so I noticed.
post #19 of 42
It would be most interesting if anyone had the right kit or the wallet to find out what the headspace consisted of.

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I definitely can see this used in perfume. One might have to tone down the sulphur, but there are a lot of interesting facets when combined with heavy floral, maybe chypre or incense, that could be very interesting. I mean, if civet and asafoetida are used, well, why not durian?

Has anyone here got access to a durian and a lab?

If someone can do that I will have a go for you suga. I've got plenty of ingredients to try.
post #20 of 42
I love mangosteens too, hedonist222!

There are different kinds of durian, too, Sugandaraja. From my experience, the best and sweetest ones come from northern Thailand. My grandmother had a tree growing in Southern Thailand next to the house. It had a fruit while was I was visiting, and I said, "Let's pick it!" They said, "No, these don't taste good." I didn't believe them! So we picked it, and ate it. UGH! It was bitter.

My aunt took me shopping as well, and a guy had an orchard of them in Southern Thailand. ALL of them were bitter.

Normally I love durian, but these were just god-awful! It was like eating the rind of a mangosteen. That kind of bitter.

Also texture-wise, fresh durian sections are the best! They have a smooth skin over them that pops like fish eggs when you bite into it. I've noticed that if the durian has been pre-frozen, as it often is to ship to the United States, the skin of the sections loses that firmness, and the durian becomes mushy. Oh well.

(Also, I didn't know this before we did it, but it is illegal to take durian on the subways and into hotels in Singapore. Oops!)
post #21 of 42
Sugandaraja, over here they're tangy. Slightly tart. With a streaking sweetness to it.
I fear yours may be overripe.

Aiona, have you ever has them in juice form?
post #22 of 42
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Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post

Sugandaraja, over here they're tangy. Slightly tart. With a streaking sweetness to it.
I fear yours may be overripe.

It could very well be. These were almost acid-less and rather gelatinous; not unpleasant, just kind of blandly sweet, to the point I wasn't highly motivated to pay those prices again.
post #23 of 42
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Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post

Sugandaraja, over here they're tangy. Slightly tart. With a streaking sweetness to it.
I fear yours may be overripe.

I have to agree, there. If the durian is overripe, just as with jackfruit, the sulfurous smell is enhanced.

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Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post

Aiona, have you ever has them in juice form?

Nope! I haven't had durian juiced.

I have had it in those dehydrated durian cakes. That used to be the only kind of durian state that we were allowed to bring into the U.S. in our suitcase (if we double-triple wrapped it in Ziplocs so we didn't kill everyone within smelling distance).

And durian chips!!! I just discovered those on our last trip to Thailand. They dehydrate thin wafers of durian, like banana chips. SOOOO yummy! And the sulfur smell is completely absent in those chips. They're like really rich potato chips. Pure cholesterol, I'm sure.
post #24 of 42
Oh, and durian ice cream. But the durian ice cream I've had didn't have a whole lot of durian flavor.
post #25 of 42
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Originally Posted by mumsy View Post

I bought one at a market for my dad as he had raved about it from his army days. It was unfortunately early in the evening on my very first date with a very nice man and we were going to the cinema. Although it had gone into three carrier bags, the spines had popped little holes in the bag and these little whiffs kept escaping from under the seats in front and people kept staring at us thinking somebody had trouble with wind. After trying to watch a film with tears of mirth streaming down our cheeks, we then went for a drink at a bar. We covered the bag with both our coats and still little whiffs kept escaping. When we came to leave, and pulled the coats off this horrendous stench filled the whole bar and we fled...

When we finally came to eat it, it looked like the pale yolk of a hard boiled egg to me in a brain shape and I found the flavour quite hard to like alongside the smell. It was very pastelike and powerful, quite rough on the back of the throat and not gentle like fruit. We maybe had an overipe one? I didn't know what it was supposed to be like.

I can see it may be very nice in curry but I struggled to find it pleasant although I wouldn't say it was horrid.

That nice man became my husband so Durian fruit has rather a special place in my affections for an unforgettable date.

LOL!

Great story! I was going to say - while I was reading this, I sure hoped you didn't let that guy get away!
post #26 of 42
Had some Durian bubble tea today. I don't think it's anywhere near as strong as the actual fruit but it was still odd. There's a warm fleshy aftertaste that kind of didn't sit right. Such a strange fruit.
post #27 of 42
If it is really that strong and effusive, enough to stick to clothes that much, then it really ought to be useful as a note.

From what I can find online, there is an article stating some research identifying 63 volatiles in a Malaysian durian of which 16 were sulphur containing.
post #28 of 42
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Originally Posted by Aiona View Post

Pure cholesterol, I'm sure.

There would actually be no cholesterol, since it's not an animal product.
post #29 of 42
Sure it doesn't contain cholesterol but that doesn't mean that its fat content it will not cause cholesterol to form.
post #30 of 42
sugandaraja, i find your description to be spot on. personally i like durian, it has a great flavor which is a bit repulsive a the same time. the alliaceous components are definitely a strange thing to encounter in a fruit. i like the stories that have emerged in the thread.
post #31 of 42
Durian is an “avoid” on my diet, called swami (serotyping with advanced modifying indicators), so I will never know. I don’t think it is available around here anyway. I’m not heartbroken at the thought of giving it a miss.
post #32 of 42
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I've got admit: since I started this thread, I've eaten a ton of durian. I don't know what's gotten into me, but I guess I get a little obsessed when I find a new food I love! I've had some almost every day ( tried fresh and frozen ) and ice cream and juice. Only the juice seemed a miss ( too loose to spoon up, too thick to comfortably drink ).

They seem to vary a lot. Some are really sulfurous and oniony, but some are very rather gently sweet and creamy, though all have that distinct durian taste and smell, the sweeter kinds have helped me understand how it can seen as a dessert food.

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Originally Posted by Aiona View Post

There are different kinds of durian, too, Sugandaraja. From my experience, the best and sweetest ones come from northern Thailand. My grandmother had a tree growing in Southern Thailand next to the house. It had a fruit while was I was visiting, and I said, "Let's pick it!" They said, "No, these don't taste good." I didn't believe them! So we picked it, and ate it. UGH! It was bitter.

What a disappointment! I wonder where the best spots are to durian tourist ( I'd love to go on durian or generalized tropical fruit tasting tour, like the ones they have for wines )

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Originally Posted by Aiona View Post

Also texture-wise, fresh durian sections are the best! They have a smooth skin over them that pops like fish eggs when you bite into it. I've noticed that if the durian has been pre-frozen, as it often is to ship to the United States, the skin of the sections loses that firmness, and the durian becomes mushy. Oh well.

I've tried both fresh ones and frozen here, and I'm kind of conflicted. The fresh ones tend to be a little dried out here though have more solid texture, the frozen ones much sweeter and riper but yes, kind of mushy.

The price I pay for living so far from where they're grown...

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Originally Posted by Aiona View Post

Oh, and durian ice cream. But the durian ice cream I've had didn't have a whole lot of durian flavor.

Durians are so sweet and creamy I actually found that the partly-thawed frozen durians I bought were better "ice cream" than the durian ice cream I found at the Chinese market. I was a little disappointed with the latter. Not that it was bad just too mild and not epically durian enough; kind of "off' tasting French vanilla rather than true durian.

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Originally Posted by laph View Post

Had some Durian bubble tea today. I don't think it's anywhere near as strong as the actual fruit but it was still odd. There's a warm fleshy aftertaste that kind of didn't sit right. Such a strange fruit.

Oh, durian and bubble tea - two of my favorite east Asian things together! I shall have to scour the local menus for some, as they do bubble tea everywhere in Van ( durian, less so, and most are probably grateful... )
post #33 of 42
There was a story in the local press some years back where the fire department was called to an office building because people had detected the smell of leaking gas. After much puzzlement and looking around, the fire officers found the problem - someone had brought some Durian to the office and put it in the fridge.

I can't stand Durian or Durian lollies - in terms of after effect on breathe and taste down the back of my throat - it's as bad as garlic, which I also dislike greatly.

My Chinese friend loves the stuff (as do most Chinese) but I was there when his Australian wife warned him late in the evening - "eat that stuff now.... and you won't be sleeping in my bed tonight".
Regards,
Renato
post #34 of 42
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

There was a story in the local press some years back where the fire department was called to an office building because people had detected the smell of leaking gas. After much puzzlement and looking around, the fire officers found the problem - someone had bought some Durian to the office and put it in the fridge.

Hilarious!
post #35 of 42
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

There was a story in the local press some years back where the fire department was called to an office building because people had detected the smell of leaking gas. After much puzzlement and looking around, the fire officers found the problem - someone had bought some Durian to the office and put it in the fridge.

Yes, the smell of durian does smell a lot like natural gas leaking!

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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

I can't stand Durian or Durian lollies - in terms of after effect on breathe and taste down the back of my throat - it's as bad as garlic, which I also dislike greatly.

I can see where someone who hates garlic would likely hate durian, too. The two tastes and smells are linked... Which is perhaps part of why durian shares a strange moreishness for me akin to garlic heavy foods, which I also love.
post #36 of 42
Thread Starter 
If anyone is coming to Vancouver, you MUST go to:

LA CASA GELATO

They make the most fantastic, rich, true-to-life durian gelato you could ever want to try. It's beautiful, and infinitely better than the depressing durian ice cream I found in Chinese supermarkets. I almost prefer it to eating the real fruit.

They also have a ton of odd flavors that might interest perfumistas, such as a powerfully flavored lavender one. And no, I'm not affiliated.
post #37 of 42
Perhaps some of you saw this segment about Durian from Penang on the show Bizarre Foods: View from 4:08 minutes in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o_1qillkJs
post #38 of 42
sugandaraja,

do you know if this ice cream made with a flavor base, or is it sorbet ice cream using the real fruit?

i own an ice cream machine, can make sorbets too. when i tried durian for the first time i thought, i should make ice cream with this! never got round to do it.

by the way, i have many flavoring molecules at home, i've used them for ice cream as well. they are the same as perfumery molecules, there is a huge overlap, i would think more than 90% of the perfumery materials is used for flavoring too. it's fun to play when them in this way. and ice cream is a wonderful vehicle to do it.
post #39 of 42
i got curious and just looked up the good scents company site. they actually have a index entry for durian, with only 1 molecule listed. that is 3-pentane thiol. it is described as "sulfurous, gassy, savoury, durian".
post #40 of 42
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Originally Posted by gido View Post

sugandaraja,

do you know if this ice cream made with a flavor base, or is it sorbet ice cream using the real fruit?

I'd say I'm 99% sure it's pureed real durian in some kind of gelato base. The taste was perfectly naturally durian, even the texture had some of the same mouth-feel, and, after eating, it did give durian breath, despite not smelling at the time.

That being said, if there was any durian flavoring out there, I'd be curious to try it and see how close people can get. Could have perfumery applications, too...
post #41 of 42
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Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post

That being said, if there was any durian flavoring out there, I'd be curious to try it and see how close people can get. Could have perfumery applications, too...

creating a thing recognizable as durian should be not too hard. getting it exactly right and natural-like, that's the hard part. that's probably where they failed with the asian supermarket durian ice-cream. it could also be a matter of budget, in the same way that functional perfumery almost never smells real.

if there was a widely available durian flavor base, the good scents company might have listed it. but i guess it's not very much asked for, especially outside of asia. as for perfumery, i don't think any perfumer/company would have the nerve to recreate a durian (or any sulfurous) smell. alliaceous odors aren't particularly favored either.

let's hope someone at etat libre d'orange read this thread! this is another opportunity to create some uproar.
post #42 of 42
i just read this and remembered this thread,

41 highly odor-active compounds that contribute to durian's characteristic smell were pinpointed, 24 of which scientists had not identified in durian before. Among them, prominent oniony smelling odorants belonging to a compound class that has rarely been found in food before were characterized. Four of the newly discovered chemical compounds were previously unknown to science. http://bit.ly/V6AS75

Journal article: Characterization of the Major Odor-Active Compounds in Thai Durian (Durio zibethinus L. 'Monthong') by Aroma Extract Dilution Analysis and Headspace Gas Chromatography-Olfactometry http://dx.doi.org/10.1021/jf303881k


.. and decided to slap it on!
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