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Rating 40 Mass-Markets from 1 to 10

post #1 of 68
Thread Starter 
Rate each of them, but skip which ones you haven't tried.

Rating, I would assume, would factor in overall smell, creativity/originality, value for what you pay, versatility, projection, and longevity.

Skip ones that you have not tried.

Here is my opinion on what I see a good rating system as (you do not have to agree with me though).
10 - Of hundreds of fragrances, the amount of tens should be counted on less than 5 or 10 fingers.
9 to 9.5 - These are not just great colognes, they are exceptional colognes that are masterpieces to be remembered for many years to come. This rating should be very rare to give.
8 to 8.5 - GREAT fragrance overall. Instant classics, essential for nearly any serious collector's collection.
7 to 7.5 - Very good scents, but they have some flaws holding them back from being great.
6 to 6.5 - Good scent, but not for everybody. Either it is a risky blind buy or its so bland or generic, even if it is decent smelling. This is probably, for me, the majority of mass market fragrances.
5 to 5.5 - Not a very good cologne. Not recommended for blind buying at all. Some may enjoy it, but there are probably similar colognes in your collection that are a lot better.

<5 - BAD

The main problem I am trying to address is that if a 9 is given too easily for a cologne that is just "very good", then it doesn't do justice to the amazing ones that actually deserve a really good rating.

Here is the list for you to copy and paste:

Acqua Di Gio
Cool Water
Le Male
Bulgari Aqua
Eternity
Obsession
KC Black
Aramis
Drakkar Noir
Varvatos

Versace Eau Fraiche
Versace Dreamer
Nautica Voyage
Lacoste Essential
Armani Code
Armani Sport Code
Light Blue
Unforgivable
Fahrenheit
Armani Diamonds

One Million
Abercrombie Fierce
Givenchi Pi
Polo Blue
Polo Black
Eternity Aqua
Hugo Boss
Gucci Guilty
Curve
Bora Bora

Usher
CK One
212 Men
Chrome
Play
A Men
Bulgari Blv
The One
Burbery Touch
Burbery Brit

My Ratings of the Mass Markets

* Acqua Di Gio -- 9 (a true classic, only hated for its own success)
* Cool Water -- 8 (a great adaptation of GIT at an affordable price)
* Le Male -- 9
Bulgari Aqua -- 6
Eternity -- 6
Obsession -- 6
KC Black -- 7
Aramis -- 7
Drakkar Noir -- 6 (smells cheap, but nevertheless, an 80's classic)
Varvatos -- 5

Versace Eau Fraiche -- 6
* Versace Dreamer 8 (this is bold and daring. for the patient, not the timid.)
Nautica Voyage -- 5
Lacoste Essential -- 4
Armani Code -- 7
Armani Sport Code -- 6
Light Blue -- 6 (very good fresh scent, however it's very pricy for what you get)
Unforgivable -- 6 (if you want a millesime imperial clone, Love and Luck does it better)
* Fahrenheit -- 10 (a scent like no other. easily the best, imo)
Armani Diamonds -- 5 (i really liked the opening a lot, but the dry down is not impressive)

* One Million -- 8 (le male's darker cousin, a real gem of its decade)
Abercrombie Fierce n/a
The One -- 6
Polo Blue -- 7 (a very good melon aquatic with that classic polo spicy undercurrent)
Polo Black -- 5 (try the original polo instead)
Eternity Aqua -- 4 (at first seems like decent aquatic, then dries into a cheap woodsy frag.)
Hugo Boss -- 6
Gucci Guilty -- 6 (good floral scent, and nothing more)
Curve -- 5 (grossly overrated, smells like cheap liquid soap)
Bora Bora -- 6

Usher -- 5 (decent opening, but becomes dull and generic in dry down)
CK One -- 5 (this is as generic and dull as it gets)
212 Men -- 6 (a decent light fresh green scent, but nothing more)
Chrome -- 5 (some people will really enjoy this, otherwise, cheap plastic cloying synthetic)
Play -- 5.5
* A Men -- 8 (i personally don't like this one, but i appreciate it as a work of art)
Bulgari Blv -- 6
Givenci Pi -- 6
Burbery Touch -- 7 (recommended if you like sweet scents)
Burbery Brit -- 6

On this list, I've given good ratings even to scents that I do not like, as I appreciate them as a work of art. Conversely, there are some scents that I really like that I just had to deduct points from for their flaws.

This post was made for people who are new to fragrances (and for people like me who are just curious), get some breadth on how the community feels about the many colognes that surround us in big box stores.

Let's see where there's common patterns.

So far, by the polls of all the users, Fahrenheit is consisently rated the highest, and A*Men is also consistently rated high.
post #2 of 68
Acqua Di Gio - 7
Cool Water - 6
Le Male - 7
Bulgari Aqua - 4
Eternity - 4
Obsession - 4
Aramis - 1
Drakkar Noir - 6
Varvatos - 3

Versace Eau Fraiche - 2
Versace Dreamer - 1
Nautica Voyage - 2
Lacoste Essential - 5
Armani Code - 7
Armani Sport Code - 5
Light Blue - 3
Unforgivable - 2
Fahrenheit - 9
Armani Diamonds - 6

One Million - 6
Abercrombie Fierce - 3
Givenchi Pi - 6
Polo Blue - 2
Polo Black - 3
Eternity Aqua - 3
Hugo Boss - 2
Gucci Guilty - 6
Curve - 3
Bora Bora - 3

Usher - 1
CK One - 3
212 Men - 3
Chrome - 6
Play - 6
A Men - 9
Bulgari Blv - 3
The One - 3
Burbery Touch - 6
Burbery Brit - 6
post #3 of 68
5 Acqua Di Gio
6 Cool Water
5 Le Male
6 Bulgari Aqua
4 Eternity
3 Obsession
4 KC Black
8 Aramis
7 Drakkar Noir
Varvatos (which one?)

5 Versace Eau Fraiche
6.5 Versace Dreamer
3 Nautica Voyage
2 Lacoste Essential
6 Armani Code
3 Armani Sport Code
1 Light Blue
3 Unforgivable
9 Fahrenheit
6 Armani Diamonds

5 One Million
4 Abercrombie Fierce
4 Givenchi Pi
4 Polo Blue
4 Polo Black
4 Eternity Aqua
4 Hugo Boss
5 Gucci Guilty
3 Curve
4 Bora Bora

3 Usher
5 CK One
4 212 Men
5 Chrome
4 Play
7 A Men
4 Bulgari Blv
6 The One
3 Burbery Touch
3 Burbery Brit
post #4 of 68
Thread Starter 
hednic: you were much more unforgiving than me.

nearly all of my ratings were higher than yours, with the only exception of A*Men which you rated higher.

relatively, our ratings are similar.

loving the alien: i overall agree with your ratings.
post #5 of 68
Acqua Di Gio -- 5.5
Cool Water -- 7
Le Male -- 8
Bulgari Aqua -- 3
Eternity -- 5
Varvatos -- 9

Versace Eau Fraiche -- 6
Versace Dreamer -- 10
Nautica Voyage -- 1
Lacoste Essential -- 6
Armani Code -- 7
Fahrenheit -- 10

One Million -- 7.5
Abercrombie Fierce -- 8
The One -- 8
Polo Blue -- 4

CK One -- 3
Chrome -- 6.5
A Men -- 8
Givenci Pi -- 7.5
Burbery Touch -- 6
Burbery Brit -- 5
post #6 of 68
Thread Starter 
ete: finally, someone agrees with me that voyage is overrated.
post #7 of 68
Acqua Di Gio 7
Cool Water 7
Le Male 7
Bulgari Aqua 6
Eternity 6
Obsession 6
KC Black 6
Aramis 7
Drakkar Noir 8
Varvatos 5

Versace Eau Fraiche 6
Versace Dreamer 6
Nautica Voyage 6
Lacoste Essential 4
Armani Code 6
Armani Sport Code 6
Light Blue 6
Unforgivable 1
Fahrenheit 9
Armani Diamonds 5

One Million 6
Abercrombie Fierce 6
Givenchi Pi 7
Polo Blue 6
Polo Black 6
Eternity Aqua 4
Hugo Boss 4
Gucci Guilty 4
Curve 7
Bora Bora

Usher
CK One 6
212 Men 7
Chrome 6
Play 7
A Men 8
Bulgari Blv 6
The One 6
Burbery Touch 7
Burbery Brit 6
post #8 of 68
Too many of these I have never tried and have no interest in trying and others I tested in a store and they made no special impression (e.g., Acqua di Gio-- smells like nothing in particular to me. I have no idea why this is so popular.). Of the ones I own, I would give Cool Water, Fahrenheit, Drakkar Noir, and Versace Dreamer 8s or 8.5s on your scale, Bulgari Aqua 7.5, CK One, Obsession, Pi, and Play, around a 6 or 6.5. All of these rated I enjoy owning though for different reasons.

On second thought, I'd give Obsession a 7.5. It is certainly a classic of its type.
post #9 of 68
Acqua Di Gio - 7
Cool Water - 6
Le Male - 8
Bulgari Aqua - 3
Eternity - 3
Obsession - 3
Drakkar Noir - 5

Versace Eau Fraiche - 6
Versace Dreamer - 5
Lacoste Essential - 7
Armani Code - 7
Armani Sport Code - 7

One Million - 7

A Men - 10
The One - 8
Burbery Touch - 6
Burbery Brit- 6
post #10 of 68
Double post for whatever reason
post #11 of 68
Ok for what its worth, I'll play.

7 Acqua Di Gio
6 Cool Water
5 Le Male
5 Bulgari Aqua
5 Eternity
4 Obsession
5 KC Black
5 Aramis
5 Drakkar Noir
3 Varvatos

6 Versace Eau Fraiche
5 Versace Dreamer
3 Nautica Voyage
5 Lacoste Essential
6 Armani Code
5 Armani Sport Code
4 Light Blue
4 Unforgivable
8 Fahrenheit
7 Armani Diamonds

• One Million
7 Abercrombie Fierce
5 Givenchi Pi
5 Polo Blue
4 Polo Black
3 Eternity Aqua
3 Hugo Boss
4 Gucci Guilty
4 Curve
• Bora Bora

4 Usher
5 CK One
4 212 Men
6 Chrome
4 Play
8 A Men
4 Bulgari Blv
6 The One
5 Burbery Touch
6 Burbery Brit
post #12 of 68
Acqua Di Gio 8
Cool Water 5
Le Male 8
Bulgari Aqua 7
Eternity 3

Versace Eau Fraiche 6.5
Versace Dreamer 7
Lacoste Essential 6.5
Armani Code 7
Light Blue 6
Fahrenheit 10

Givenchi Pi 7
Polo Blue 6

CK One 6
212 Men 6.5
A Men 9
Burbery Brit 6.5
post #13 of 68
noirdrakkar,
considering fragrances from a work-of-art point of view,
there's not enough describing parameter in the rating (like "main theme/idea", "composition consistency", "harmony feel", scent development or linearity etc.), so I'm not participating.

Other than that, IMO it's not that different from another marketing&sales rating on "what's the best of market", FiFi-like BS and all, you know.
Consider me a dumb, but I smelled most of the list (except about 4-6 scents) and I can say they all SMELL GOOD.
Consides me a snob, but there's not a single excellent composition in your list, with A*Men and Fahrenheit being just remarkable.

If curious or new to fragrances, I'd say don't get into ratings, brands and "the very best of the very best" evil marketing kind of things, but get the knowledge and go sampling. Train your nose and develop your own taste, then you'll *get* the great fun the Basenotes is all about.

Regards, Odor.
post #14 of 68
I really wish the ratings system here was based on a 10 point/star scale. 1-5 is just not enough. Nice idea. (I had to add a few) :}

Acqua Di Gio - 7 - nice scent, does not last long on me. the default frag for those that don't want to think too much
Cool Water - 9 - rediscovered this recently and can't wait to get a bottle
Le Male - 6 - not for me

Eternity - 7 - not a big fan of CK frags, this was OK back in the day, but unremarkable to me now
Obsession - 7.5 - again great back in the day, still holds up OK, may be good on cold days

Aramis - 7 - a classic, but overused for years and so many more are better IMHO
Drakkar Noir - 6 - low mainly because my college roommate would cover himself in this
Varvatos - 9 - (original) LOVE this, I do not have the longevity problems some talk about

Versace Eau Fraiche - 7 - Nice, but unremarkable for me
Versace Dreamer - 8.5 - VERY nice and free when I found a gratis 1oz bottle at work in the women's section

Lacoste Essential - 8 - this one I have been trying a lot recently, really like it, unsure about longevity/projection
Armani Code - 6.5 - not for me, strange since I like powdery frags
Armani Sport Code - 4 - No.. ginger in this is bad, have no idea why it is still on my shelves..
Light Blue - 7 - not for me but a good seller, doesn't last on me
Unforgivable - 8 - when I run out of MI I will buy this
Fahrenheit - 9 - LOVED this back in the day. but refused to wear it since everyone had it, I own it now


One Million - 7 - at first I thought it was too cloying, but I own it and like it sometimes

Givenchi Pi - 7.5 - nice, precursor to One Million. will own soon
Polo Blue - 6 - eh.. not my cup of tea
Polo Black - 6 - eh.. not my cup of tea
Eternity Aqua - 7 - if this lasted longer I would own it

Gucci Guilty - 6.5 - I never got the reason for all the hype, would never buy this one, but a decent frag
Curve - 8.5 - reintroduced myself to this one recently and it stands the test of time



CK One - 6 - yawn.. was a great idea back then, but does not hold up for me

Chrome - 7.5 - sold it for years, then finally wore it and understood why. surprising logevity
Play - 7.5 - the whole line is nice, but gets overlooked at my store, I enjoy them
A Men - 9 - LOVE this in the winter, a comfort scent for me
Bulgari Blv - 7 - nice, but sometimes even too powdery for me
The One - 6.5 - I should like this, but when I smell it I can only think about how much better Dior Homme is
Burbery Touch - 7 - strange one for me, I don't like the tonka in this one
Burbery Brit - 7.5 - an OK frag, great to freshen a room, now Brit Summer is Great stuff IMHO

Adding:
CK ONE Shock - 8.5 - My fave mass market release of 2011. Cheap as hell and GREAT longevity/throw
YSL l'Homme - 7 - Not a fan of ginger
YSL La Nuit - 8.5 - Love it sometimes, then only like it a lot others, but a great frag
Trump Success - 6 - smells like Juniper berries and B.O. to me
Chanel AHSEE - 7 - well made, but just reminds me of bengay on the dry down
Ed Hardy/True Religion - 6.5 - great marketing idea, average frags with TR and Born Wild on top for me
Prada Amber - 9 - LOVE this, synthetic, but in a good way
Prada Amber Intense - 8 - Close, to PA, but just comes in second to me.
post #15 of 68
Acqua Di Gio -- 6.5
Cool Water -- 7
Le Male -- 6
Bulgari Aqua -- 4
Eternity -- 6
Obsession -- 5
KC Black -- 3
Aramis -- 7
Drakkar Noir -- 7
Varvatos -- 3

Versace Eau Fraiche -- 6
Versace Dreamer 7
Nautica Voyage -- 6
Lacoste Essential -- 1
Armani Code -- 5
Armani Sport Code -- 1
Light Blue -- 1
Unforgivable-- 2
Fahrenheit -- 10
Armani Diamonds -- 3

One Million -- 1
Abercrombie Fierce-- 1
The One -- 2
Polo Blue -- 2
Polo Black -- 2
Eternity Aqua -- 2
Hugo Boss -- 3
Gucci Guilty -- 1
Curve -- 1
Bora Bora -- 2

Usher -- 3
CK One -- 5
212 Men -- 5
Chrome -- 5
Play -- 4
A Men -- 8.5
Bulgari Blv -- 5
Givenci Pi -- 6
Burbery Touch -- 3
Burbery Brit -- 6
post #16 of 68
Acqua Di Gio - 5
Cool Water - 6
Le Male - 3
Bulgari Aqua - 7
Eternity - 4
Obsession - 4
KC Black ?
Aramis - 5
Drakkar Noir - 5
Varvatos ?

Versace Eau Fraiche ?
Versace Dreamer - 4
Nautica Voyage - 5
Lacoste Essential - 5
Armani Code - 4
Armani Sport Code - 1
Light Blue ?
Unforgivable - 3
Fahrenheit - 8.5
Armani Diamonds - 6

One Million - 2
Abercrombie Fierce -4
Givenchi Pi -5
Polo Blue -4
Polo Black -4
Eternity Aqua ?
Hugo Boss - 4
Gucci Guilty - 4
Curve - 5
Bora Bora ?

Usher - Closet
CK One - 4
212 Men - 6.5
Chrome - 6
Play - 5
A Men - 6
Bulgari Blv - 5
The One - 4
Burbery Touch - 4
Burbery Brit - 7
post #17 of 68
Acqua Di Gio - 0
Cool Water - 1
Le Male - (-10)
Bulgari Aqua - 0
Eternity - 0
Obsession - 0
KC Black - 0
Aramis - 0
Drakkar Noir - 4
Varvatos - 0

Versace Eau Fraiche - 0
Versace Dreamer - 0
Nautica Voyage - 0
Lacoste Essential - 0
Armani Code - 0
Armani Sport Code
Light Blue - 0
Unforgivable - 1
Fahrenheit - 7
Armani Diamonds - 0

One Million - (-10)
Abercrombie Fierce - 0
Givenchi Pi - 0
Polo Blue - 0
Polo Black - 0
Eternity Aqua - 0
Hugo Boss - 0
Gucci Guilty - 0
Curve - 0
Bora Bora - 0

Usher - 0
CK One - 0
212 Men - 0
Chrome - 0
Play - 0
A Men - 6
Bulgari Blv - 0
The One - 0
Burbery Touch - 0
Burbery Brit - 0
post #18 of 68
Acqua Di Gio 5.5
Cool Water 4
Le Male 4.25
Bulgari Aqua 4.5
Eternity .775
Obsession 6.75
KC Black 6
Aramis 8.5
Drakkar Noir 8.5
Varvatos 4.75

Versace Eau Fraiche 4
Versace Dreamer 6.85
Nautica Voyage 7.5
Lacoste Essential 5.5
Armani Code 7
Armani Sport Code 5.5
Light Blue 4
Unforgivable 3
Fahrenheit 8.75
Armani Diamonds 6

One Million 2.135
Abercrombie Fierce 6
Givenchi Pi 3
Polo Blue .35
Polo Black 2
Eternity Aqua 1
Hugo Boss 5.25
Gucci Guilty 6.75
Curve 4.5
Bora Bora 2

Usher 3.5
CK One 5.5
212 Men 5
Chrome 2
Play 5.5
A Men -3
Bulgari Blv 6.5
The One 6
Burbery Touch 6.5
Burbery Brit 8
post #19 of 68
Cool Water 8
Le Male 7
Bulgari Aqua 8
Eternity 2
Obsession 2
Aramis 8
Drakkar Noir 2
Versace Dreamer 2
Nautica Voyage 6
Fahrenheit 9
Givenchi Pi 7
Chrome 3
A Men 8
Bulgari Blv 7
Burbery Brit 4
Armani Sport Code 2
post #20 of 68
Acqua Di Gio 7
Cool Water 6
Le Male 7
Bulgari Aqua 5
Eternity 3
Aramis 5

Nautica Voyage 3
Lacoste Essential 1
Armani Code 4
Fahrenheit 10

Abercrombie Fierce 3
Polo Blue 4
Polo Black 2

CK One 4
Chrome 1
A Men 8
Bulgari Blv 1
Burbery Brit 3
post #21 of 68
Acqua Di Gio- 1
Cool Water- 1
Le Male-7
Bulgari Aqua- 6
Obsession- 1
Aramis- 1
Drakkar Noir- 1

Versace Eau Fraiche- 6
Nautica Voyage-1
Armani Code- 5
Armani Sport Code- 1
Light Blue- 1
Unforgivable- 5
Fahrenheit- 6

One Million- 6
Abercrombie Fierce- 7
Givenchi Pi- 2
Hugo Boss- 1

CK One- 1
212 Men- 1
Chrome- 4
A Men- 9
post #22 of 68
I only listed fragrances I've smelled...

5 Acqua Di Gio
7 Cool Water
6 Le Male
4 Eternity
10 Aramis
5 Drakkar Noir
1 Versace Dreamer
3 Light Blue
3 Unforgivable
9 Fahrenheit
4 Abercrombie Fierce
5 Givenchy Pi
4 Polo Blue
3 Eternity Aqua
4 Hugo Boss
5 Curve
7 CK One
7 Chrome
8 A Men
5 Burbery Brit
post #23 of 68
Acqua Di Gio 7.8
Cool Water 8
Le Male 7.9
Bulgari Aqua 6
Eternity 7.75
Obsession 7
KC Black 5.6
Aramis 5.25
Drakkar Noir 7.25
Varvatos 5.5 (assuming the original)

Versace Eau Fraiche 6
Versace Dreamer 5.75
Nautica Voyage 6.25
Lacoste Essential 5.6
Armani Code 5.9
Armani Sport Code 5.6
Light Blue 5
Unforgivable 6.1
Fahrenheit 8.75
Armani Diamonds 5.9

One Million 5.2
Abercrombie Fierce 5.4
Givenchi Pi 5.9
Polo Blue 5.5
Polo Black 6
Eternity Aqua ?
Hugo Boss 6
Gucci Guilty 6.1
Curve 5.9
Bora Bora 5

Usher ?
CK One 6
212 Men 6.7
Chrome 6.5
Play 6.4
A Men 7.75
Bulgari Blv 6.1
The One 6.6
Burbery Touch 6
Burbery Brit 6.3
post #24 of 68
...I don't own any of this list! All of them 5-...!
post #25 of 68
Interesting list. I own many bottles, but none on this list. I rate them all the same - Not Bottle Worthy.


There's just so many good scents out there, who needs to settle for mediocrity.
post #26 of 68
Acqua Di Gio-5
Cool Water-5
Le Male-7
Bulgari Aqua-7
Eternity-8
Obsession-8
KC Black-7
Aramis-8
Drakkar Noir-7
Varvatos-7

Versace Eau Fraiche-6
Versace Dreamer-7
Nautica Voyage-7
Lacoste Essential-7
Armani Code-8
Armani Sport Code-7
Light Blue-7
Unforgivable-6
Fahrenheit-8
Armani Diamonds-7

One Million-8
Abercrombie Fierce-5
Givenchi Pi-8
Polo Blue-7
Polo Black-7
Eternity Aqua-7
Hugo Boss-6
Gucci Guilty-8
Curve-5
Bora Bora-7

Usher-5
CK One-5
212 Men-7
Chrome-7
Play-7
A Men-5
Bulgari Blv-6
The One-6
Burbery Touch-7
Burbery Brit-7
post #27 of 68
Acqua Di Gio 6
Cool Water 7.5
Le Male 6
Eternity 6.5

Versace Dreamer 5
Armani Code 6
Armani Sport Code 5.5
Light Blue 6.5
Fahrenheit 9

One Million 4
Polo Blue 3
Polo Black 3.5
Hugo Boss 4
Gucci Guilty 3

CK One 6
Chrome 5.5
A Men 7
Bulgari Blv 5
The One 6
Burbery Touch 5.5
Burbery Brit 6
post #28 of 68
I'm with Odor on this. I don't really find any of them offensive that warrants a 4 or below. Based on smell appeal alone I'd rate them around 5-7. Maybe an 8-8.5 for vintage Fahrenheit.
post #29 of 68
Hmm. What's someone starting out going to make of THIS?
post #30 of 68
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The-odor View Post

noirdrakkar,
considering fragrances from a work-of-art point of view,
there's not enough describing parameter in the rating (like "main theme/idea", "composition consistency", "harmony feel", scent development or linearity etc.), so I'm not participating.

I did list criterion, if you read:
- Originality/Creativity
- Projection
- Longevity
- Value
etc.



Other than that, IMO it's not that different from another marketing&sales rating on "what's the best of market", FiFi-like BS and all, you know.

Consider me a dumb, but I smelled most of the list (except about 4-6 scents) and I can say they all SMELL GOOD.

Yes, good, just good.

Consides me a snob, but there's not a single excellent composition in your list, with A*Men and Fahrenheit being just remarkable.

I agree. What makes you think I disagree with that statement?

If you look at my ratings, you will see that only a handful of the 40 received a great rating of 8 or higher.


If curious or new to fragrances, I'd say don't get into ratings, brands and "the very best of the very best" evil marketing kind of things, but get the knowledge and go sampling. Train your nose and develop your own taste, then you'll *get* the great fun the Basenotes is all about.

I made this list of 40 fragrances, not based on how good they are, but based on how mass market they are. If you go into a Macy's, Walmart or JC Penny, chances are, you will see a majority of these fragrances there.

I agree that there aren't that many excellent mass markets, but that only makes the certain few like AMEN or Fahrenheit stand out.


Regards, Odor.

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post #31 of 68
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The-odor View Post

noirdrakkar,
considering fragrances from a work-of-art point of view,
there's not enough describing parameter in the rating (like "main theme/idea", "composition consistency", "harmony feel", scent development or linearity etc.), so I'm not participating.

I did list criterion, if you read:
- Originality/Creativity
- Projection
- Longevity
- Value
etc.



Other than that, IMO it's not that different from another marketing&sales rating on "what's the best of market", FiFi-like BS and all, you know.

Consider me a dumb, but I smelled most of the list (except about 4-6 scents) and I can say they all SMELL GOOD.

Yes, good, just good.

Consides me a snob, but there's not a single excellent composition in your list, with A*Men and Fahrenheit being just remarkable.

I agree. What makes you think I disagree with that statement?

If you look at my ratings, you will see that only a handful of the 40 received a great rating of 8 or higher.


If curious or new to fragrances, I'd say don't get into ratings, brands and "the very best of the very best" evil marketing kind of things, but get the knowledge and go sampling. Train your nose and develop your own taste, then you'll *get* the great fun the Basenotes is all about.

I made this list of 40 fragrances, not based on how good they are, but based on how mass market they are. If you go into a Macy's, Walmart or JC Penny, chances are, you will see a majority of these fragrances there.

I agree that there aren't that many excellent mass markets, but that only makes the certain few like AMEN or Fahrenheit stand out.


Regards, Odor.

Bolded responses.
post #32 of 68
Acqua Di Gio-7
Le Male-6
Bulgari Aqua-5
Eternity-4
Obsession-3
KC Black-5
Varvatos-5

Versace Eau Fraiche-6
Versace Dreamer-10
Nautica Voyage-4
Lacoste Essential-7
Armani Code-5
Armani Sport Code-4
Light Blue-7
Fahrenheit-10
Armani Diamonds-5

One Million-6
Abercrombie Fierce-6
Givenchi Pi-6
Polo Blue-6
Polo Black-5
Hugo Boss-which one?
Gucci Guilty-5



CK One-5
212 Men-6
Play-5
A Men-9
Bulgari Blv-7
The One-6
Burbery Brit-7
post #33 of 68
Quote:
I made this list of 40 fragrances, not based on how good they are, but based on how mass market they are. If you go into a Macy's, Walmart or JC Penny, chances are, you will see a majority of these fragrances there.

An interesting point because if you are just starting out, these are the fragrances you can try out and buy easily, and even some of these are not in mass-market outlets, especially in Walmart, which might have a quarter of these.
post #34 of 68
Acqua Di Gio 4
Cool Water 3
Le Male 6
Eternity 6
Obsession 9
Aramis 7
Drakkar Noir 7

Versace Eau Fraiche 5
Versace Dreamer 9
Light Blue 5
Fahrenheit 10
Armani Diamonds 5

One Million 6
Givenchi Pi 8

CK One 5
212 Men 4
Play 8
A Men 1
The One 6
post #35 of 68
Acqua Di Gio - 6
Cool Water - 6.5
Le Male -7
Bulgari Aqua 6
Eternity -8.5
Obsession - 8.5
KC Black - 7
Aramis - 9.5
Drakkar Noir -8
Varvatos - 7

Versace Eau Fraiche - 6.5
Versace Dreamer - 8
Nautica Voyage - 6
Lacoste Essential -6
Armani Code - 6.5
Armani Sport Code - 6.5
Light Blue - 5.5
Unforgivable -5.5
Fahrenheit - 9.5
Armani Diamonds -7

One Million -7.5
Abercrombie Fierce - Haven't smelled it
Givenchi Pi -8
Polo Blue - 7
Polo Black -7
Eternity Aqua -6
Hugo Boss - Which one? If No 1 - 6
Gucci Guilty -6
Curve - 7
Bora Bora - Haven't smelled it


Usher - 6
CK One - 5.5
212 Men - 8
Chrome - 8
Play - 7
A Men - 8.5
Bulgari Blv - 7.5
The One - 5.5
Burbery Touch - 6
Burbery Brit - 6


I own 18 of the listed scents.
Regards,
Renato
post #36 of 68
Acqua Di Gio 5
Cool Water 3
Le Male 4.5
Obsession 3.5
Drakkar Noir 4
Varvatos 4

Versace Eau Fraiche 5
Versace Dreamer 4
Armani Code 6
Light Blue 5
Unforgivable 4

One Million 8
Givenchi Pi 8
Polo Black 5
Curve 5
Bora Bora 2.5

Chrome 5
Play 3.5
A Men 8.5
The One 6.5
post #37 of 68
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Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh View Post

Too many of these I have never tried and have no interest in trying

+1

I have sampled the majority of the list. Not one of them is worth above a 3 and that is being kind. I wouldn't recommend any of them.

If this were the 80's/old juice I might think differently.
post #38 of 68
Acqua Di Gio - 4
Cool Water - 8
Le Male - 4
Bulgari Aqua - 7
Eternity - 5
Obsession - 7
KC Black - 4
Aramis - 8
Drakkar Noir - 6.5
Varvatos - 5

Versace Eau Fraiche - 3
Versace Dreamer - 3
Nautica Voyage - 4
Lacoste Essential - 4
Armani Code - 5
Armani Sport Code - 5
Light Blue - 3
Unforgivable - 3
Fahrenheit - 8
Armani Diamonds - 6

One Million - 3
Abercrombie Fierce - 5
Givenchi Pi - 4
Polo Blue - 5
Polo Black - 5
Eternity Aqua - 3
Hugo Boss - 3
Gucci Guilty - 4
Curve - 3
Bora Bora - 4

Usher - 3
CK One - 6
212 Men - 4
Chrome - 4
Play - 5
A Men - 5
Bulgari Blv - 5
The One - 3
Burbery Touch - 3
Burbery Brit - 3
post #39 of 68
Gee, this is making American politics look like the Happy Harmony Club.
post #40 of 68
Interesting the assertions of elitist dismissal of these 40 scents - I guess most people don't have a clue what is good, and shouldn't wear what they like.

Perhaps some of these critics should start a post of the 40 scents that should be worn instead of these ones - it may be a revelation to the mundane types.
Regards,
Renato.
post #41 of 68
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

Interesting the assertions of elitist dismissal of these 40 scents - I guess most people don't have a clue what is good, and shouldn't wear what they like.

Perhaps some of these critics should start a post of the 40 scents that should be worn instead of these ones - it may be a revelation to the mundane types.
Regards,
Renato.

I can see easy patterns here on basenotes that covers 80% of basenoters.

1. Niche crowd that bashes anything but niche and few designers.
2. Older crowd that bashes anything but old school classics and some niches
3. Younger crowd that bashes old school classics

I can easy guess age of some members just based on their posts, likes and dislikes.

Also there are few easy rules:

A) If basenoters loves it, it probably wont have mass appeal
B) If basenoters hates it and dismiss it as generic and bland, it will probably be huge compliment getter

I learned to appreciate fragrances here by just my own nose. I choose my samplings based by recommendations and descriptions of others but ultimately my own nose is the one that chooses what I will buy or not.
post #42 of 68
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Originally Posted by dreamer81 View Post

I can see easy patterns here on basenotes that covers 80% of basenoters.

1. Niche crowd that bashes anything but niche and few designers.
2. Older crowd that bashes anything but old school classics and some niches
3. Younger crowd that bashes old school classics

I can easy guess age of some members just based on their posts, likes and dislikes.

Also there are few easy rules:

A) If basenoters loves it, it probably wont have mass appeal
B) If basenoters hates it and dismiss it as generic and bland, it will probably be huge compliment getter

I learned to appreciate fragrances here by just my own nose. I choose my samplings based by recommendations and descriptions of others but ultimately my own nose is the one that chooses what I will buy or not.

Good points. That's why I tend to focus on comments from Basenoters I know share some of my tastes when considering either blind buys or whether to go out and look for some scent in particular they are impressed with.

There's nothing wrong with being a big fan of one of the three categories you mention - niche, new and classic - and having a greater preference (even a 100% preference) for it. What I don't understand is the dichotomous thinking sometimes displayed that scents in the categories one isn't fond off are thus automatically judged and the pronouncement made that they are all somehow of a much lesser quality and unworthy to be worn on any account.
Regards,
Renato
post #43 of 68
Well said Renato and Dreamer.
post #44 of 68
Acqua Di Gio- 10 (I'm probably the only BN'er that's gonna give this a 10)
Cool Water-5
Le Male- 7
Bulgari Aqua- 10
Drakkar Noir- 4

Versace Eau Fraiche- 9
Versace Dreamer- 10
Nautica Voyage- 7
Lacoste Essential- 6
Armani Code- 7
Unforgivable- 4

One Million- 7
Abercrombie Fierce- 8
Polo Blue- 6
Polo Black- 5
Curve- 9

212 Men- 8
A Men- 10
The One- 6
Burbery Brit- 7

I only have four 10 star fragrances on this list: Acqua Di Gio, Bvlgari Aqva, Versace The Dreamer, and A*Men
post #45 of 68
I'll only rate the handful I've thoroughly tested, own or have owned:

Acqua Di Gio - 7 I'm personally sick of it and it doesn't fit my personal tastes but it's also unfairly bashed.
Le Male - 7 As per AdG
Obsession - 7 It's nice comfort scent
Drakkar Noir - 8 A classic and I'm a sucker for violets.
Armani Code - 7 Certainly not a classic but easy to wear, not too strong and well blended (like most Armani's)
Fahrenheit - 9 An absolute classic that has occupied a scented spot in my mind since I tried it soon after launch.
A Men - 8.5 Like it or not, it's a modern classic.
post #46 of 68
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Originally Posted by kel View Post

Well said Renato and Dreamer.

My sentiments pretty much exactly. I find the divergence of opinions stunning and also endlessly entertaining.

P.S. Why does the one point of widespread agreement seem to be Farhenheit?
post #47 of 68
7 Acqua Di Gio
7 Cool Water
4 Le Male
5 Bulgari Aqua
3 Eternity
8 Obsession
3 KC Black
5 Aramis
3 Drakkar Noir
6 Varvatos

3 Versace Eau Fraiche
8 Versace Dreamer
2 Nautica Voyage
4 Lacoste Essential
8 Armani Code
- Armani Sport Code
5 Light Blue
4 Unforgivable
9 Fahrenheit
7 Armani Diamonds

6 One Million
- Abercrombie Fierce
7.5 Givenchi Pi
5.5 Polo Blue
4 Polo Black
2 Eternity Aqua
5 Hugo Boss
3 Gucci Guilty
5 Curve
- Bora Bora

4 Usher
8.5 CK One
- 212 Men
7 Chrome
8 Play
6 A Men
5 Bulgari Blv
4 The One
7 Burbery Touch
5 Burbery Brit
post #48 of 68
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Originally Posted by kel View Post

Well said Renato and Dreamer.

Thank you two for putting this into long form. My feelings are much the same. I rated all the fragrances because I have at least tested them all. There are no absolutes when rating things such as fragrances, different people prefer different fragrances, that's the beauty of collecting them. Compare and contrast. Abjectly dismissing a fragrance, and the people who like it, simply because it is popular is no better than calling all niche fragrances overpriced and not worthy of trying for that reason alone. Wear what you like because you like it, but don't tell the person next to you that they have no clue about fragrances just because they may not.
post #49 of 68
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Originally Posted by thebeck View Post

Interesting list. I own many bottles, but none on this list. I rate them all the same - Not Bottle Worthy.


There's just so many good scents out there, who needs to settle for mediocrity.

Acqua Di Gio
Cool Water
Le Male
Bulgari Aqua
Aramis-------------------9.5, though unfortunately, not for me.
Drakkar Noir
Varvatos-----------------7.5
Versace Dreamer
Lacoste Essential
Armani Code
Unforgivable--------------It most certainly is
Fahrenheit----------------7
Givenchy Pi---------------7
Polo Blue-----------------I'll take the original, thanks.
Polo Black----------------ditto
Hugo Boss
Curve
Usher
212 Men-----------------8
Chrome
A Men
Burbery Brit


OK, I skipped the ones I haven't smelled (or perhaps I did but they made no impression)

As to the rest which I listed but left blank, they average out to 5.5

By my 3,300 th post I hereby invoke the goddess Maat!

Who, according to the ancient Egyptian religion will judge you in the afterlife by placing your heart in one part of the scale (Libra, you know) and a feather on the other.

Behold!, I say unto you: Put ALL of the ones I contend would average to a 5.5 on one side-- and one bottle of Egoiste on the other.

Then see which way The Scale of Judgment tips.

Cheers,

Mario
post #50 of 68
This raises an issue to me: if people who wear scents so violently disagree on what is good, what is going on with the people forced to smell them in public?
post #51 of 68
Acqua Di Gio - 8
Cool Water - 6
Bulgari Aqua - 7
Obsession - 5
Drakkar Noir - 3

Nautica Voyage - 8
Fahrenheit - 8

Polo Blue - 6
Polo Black - 5

CK One - 7
Burbery Touch - 7
Burbery Brit - 6
post #52 of 68
Acqua Di Gio 7
Cool Water 6
Le Male 3
Bulgari Aqua 5.5
Eternity 3
Obsession 6
KC Black -
Aramis 1
Drakkar Noir 2
Varvatos -

Versace Eau Fraiche 4
Versace Dreamer 7.5
Nautica Voyage 2
Lacoste Essential 1
Armani Code 5
Armani Sport Code 1
Light Blue 1
Unforgivable 6
Fahrenheit 7.5
Armani Diamonds 1

One Million 5
Abercrombie Fierce -
Givenchi Pi 3
Polo Blue 5
Polo Black -
Eternity Aqua -
Hugo Boss 5
Gucci Guilty 1
Curve 5
Bora Bora -

Usher -
CK One 6
212 Men 6.5
Chrome 5.5
Play 7.5
A Men 2
Bulgari Blv 3
The One 3
Burbery Touch 6.5
Burbery Brit 7.5
post #53 of 68
Sounds fun, marked the ones I've never smelled with ?

Acqua Di Gio 7
Cool Water 5
Le Male 8
Bulgari Aqua 5
Eternity 4
Obsession 4
KC Black 4
Aramis ?
Drakkar Noir 3
Varvatos 5

Versace Eau Fraiche 4
Versace Dreamer 1
Nautica Voyage 5
Lacoste Essential 2
Armani Code 6
Armani Sport Code 3
Light Blue 3
Unforgivable 3
Fahrenheit 9
Armani Diamonds ?

One Million 5
Abercrombie Fierce 4
Givenchi Pi 8
Polo Blue 6
Polo Black 6
Eternity Aqua ?
Hugo Boss 6
Gucci Guilty 2
Curve 5
Bora Bora ?

Usher ?
CK One 6
212 Men 6
Chrome 4
Play 7
A Men 9
Bulgari Blv 6
The One 7
Burbery Touch 4
Burbery Brit 7
post #54 of 68
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mario justiniani View Post

unforgivable--------------it most certainly is

lmao
post #55 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh View Post

This raises an issue to me: if people who wear scents so violently disagree on what is good, what is going on with the people forced to smell them in public?

Interesting thought.
I suspect they would be comfortable smelling something akin to the mass market scents like Brut, Addidas and the Axe/Lynx ranges (else they wouldn't be mass market) and to be somewhat puzzled by exotica that moves significantly away from them.
Regards,
Renato
post #56 of 68
Acqua Di Gio - 3
Cool Water - 4
Le Male - 6
Eternity - 3
Obsession - 4
KC Black - 4

Versace Eau Fraiche - 3
Versace Dreamer - 5
Armani Code - 3
Armani Sport Code - 3
Light Blue - 4
Fahrenheit - 7

One Million - 4
Givenchi Pi - 3.1415926535...
Gucci Guilty - 3

CK One - 3
212 Men - 4
Play - 4
A Men - 4
The One - 4
Burbery Touch - 4
Burbery Brit - 7
post #57 of 68
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Originally Posted by Sol invictus View Post

Givenchi Pi - 3.1415926535...

Nice
post #58 of 68
Acqua Di Gio - 6
Cool Water - 8
Le Male - 5
Bulgari Aqua - 4
Eternity - 4
Obsession - 6
Aramis - 3

Versace Eau Fraiche - 4
Versace Dreamer - 7
Nautica Voyage - 5
Lacoste Essential - 5
Armani Code - 7
Armani Sport Code - 2
Light Blue - 2
Unforgivable - 6
Fahrenheit - 10

One Million - 6
Hugo Boss - 2
Gucci Guilty - 4

CK One - 3
212 Men - 5
Chrome - 7
Play - 6
A Men - 8
The One - 5
Burbery Touch - 5
Burbery Brit - 6
post #59 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renato View Post

Interesting thought.
I suspect they would be comfortable smelling something akin to the mass market scents like Brut, Addidas and the Axe/Lynx ranges (else they wouldn't be mass market) and to be somewhat puzzled by exotica that moves significantly away from them.
Regards,
Renato

Not sure I agree because I think, using my previous self as an example, people are not very sophisticated about scents if they are not spending a lot of time sniffing and comparing. My guess would be most just think "nice smell" or "yuk" but don't express an opinion out loud. I wonder if they would be puzzled by exotica for the same reason, they are not thinking in terms of "I know that" or "I don't know that" but reacting mostly unconsciously. Even now I don't notice scents on men very often and usually can't get a good enough whiff to identify the fragrance.

Something like Brut, Old Spice, or Canoe might well trigger a more vivid memory reaction because they have been around and popular for several generations. Old Spice will be forever identified in my mind with my father and that association is a lot more powerful than what I think about the fragrance itself.

I am still a bit puzzled by the popularity of Fahrenheit with so many on this thread that disagree so violently with the others, partly because Fahrenheit, like The Dreamer on this list, is actually somewhat less mass-market than the other fragrances here rated.
post #60 of 68
I'm kind of starting to really appreciate these numbers as they tell more about people than about 40 fragrances (IMO one shouldn't be a scentaholic in 3rd generation to tell which ones will get highest marks)

Actually I admit to bashfully wearing some of these hiding under a quilt in my bed once in a while on a moonless night.
Regards, Odor.
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