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Urinal cakes?

post #1 of 69
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I have recenty noted that there are some people who like to compare classic fragrances (REL, Korous) to a "urinal cake." Perhaps this opinion is a universial experience among some basenoters? Yet this seems a somewhat curious thing to me. Is there anybody here who could help me understand this? Thank you!
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Great, now I'm hungry... Thanks for nothing OP
post #3 of 69
Hamp, it certainly is not univeral opinion among BNers. I don't enjoy Kouros, but it is more to do with its heaviness. I don't smell urinal cakes. As well, in REL, I get no urinal cakes either. I think it is all hyperbole, to be honest.

I suppose it depends on what ones taste is and what their fragrances background and experience is.
post #4 of 69
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Originally Posted by Hamp View Post

I have recenty noted that there are some people who like to compare classic fragrances (REL, Korous) to a "urinal cake." Perhaps this opinion is a universial experience among some basenoters? Yet this seems a somewhat curious thing to me. Is there anybody here who could help me understand this? Thank you!


As far as Kouros goes, I do know what people mean. It isn't that it smells anything like a urinal but it does have a note reminiscent of those white bars they put in urinals to cover the smell, extremely sharp and sort of clean smelling, though to be honest it is a very long time since I was in close proximity to one of these so I can only remember vaguely...
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whats not to understand ;D
post #6 of 69
I first heard it on basenotes. It's one of those things that you can make yourself smell if you want to, I suppose.
post #7 of 69
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Originally Posted by andregooren View Post

I first heard it on basenotes. It's one of those things that you can make yourself smell if you want to, I suppose.

exactly....

No one in the real world thinks this.
post #8 of 69
I haven't come across any realizations of scents matching urinal cakes yet. I prefer to leave them in the realm of "target practice" and not in my realm of fragrance
post #9 of 69
Kouros good stuff
post #10 of 69
Some scents has a urinal-cake, fragrance note, akin to the urinal-deodorizer blocks.

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A guy smelling Kouros for the first time.lol
post #12 of 69
My husband thinks all my chypres smell of toilet block/urinal cake but his nose despite being noticeably aquiline and prominent is purely decorative as he mouth breathes
post #13 of 69
I grew up in the 80's so power house fragrance permeated the air which was the norm. They were in your face and kicked down the door. These days A*men is actually considered too much and people cry about it being over powering. Candy A****.
post #14 of 69
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A guy smelling Kouros for the first time.lol

This cracked me up.....Hilarious!!!
Gary
post #15 of 69
We went through a phase here 6 to 8 years ago where everyone seemed to be posting that Kouros smelled like actual urine!!!!
People here were saying things likw 'why should I wear a scent that makes others think I've peed myself?'.

I may have been one of the first to point out to them that they were profoundly incorrect - explaining that obviously they were getting confused - Kouros is a sharp fresh scent that they were probably confusing with the sharp fresh scent from urinal cakes, rather than from actual urine. This then took off.

But it didn't end there.
Suddenly people were saying that Kouros smelled exactly the same as urine AND urinal cakes - simultaneously. When I pointed out that the two were mutually exclusive and was impossible, well, it remained largely unaddressed. Except for one chap who gave me some chemical aromatic explanation about how it is possible for both smells to be perceived simultaneously - which was largely irrelevant to me, as Kouros doesn't smell like either of the two smells in question to me.
Regards,
Renato
post #16 of 69
I don't get the problem, urinal cakes are just another highly fragranced cleaning product. Now, if they said it smelled like a piss soaked urinal cake...
post #17 of 69
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... Thanks for nothing OP

And thank you so much, Basenoter.
post #18 of 69
It's a joke bra. Check your PMs
post #19 of 69
Personally never made that association.
post #20 of 69
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Originally Posted by Xqizit View Post

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whats not to understand ;D

Thank you.
post #21 of 69
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A guy smelling Kouros for the first time.lol

Again, Thank you.
post #22 of 69
Kouros is one of my favorite fragrance... Smells awesome!!! Even if it does smell like urinal cake...
post #23 of 69
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Originally Posted by slvrbckgorilla View Post

I don't get the problem, urinal cakes are just another highly fragranced cleaning product. Now, if they said it smelled like a piss soaked urinal cake...

It smells like a piss soaked urinal cake.

http://www.basenotes.net/threads/280...oom-Deodorizer
post #24 of 69
Hmm! I always thought those were giant mints.

Kouros is KING!
post #25 of 69
I assume it is largely the combination of eugenol and animalic notes, including honey, which smells like urine to a lot of people. Also, I think it may have been reformulated because it smells a bit too "chemical-ish" to me, though this may be because of the strength of the ingredients relative to other fragrances with some of the same notes.
post #26 of 69
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I may have been one of the first to point out to them that they were profoundly incorrect - explaining that obviously they were getting confused - Kouros is a sharp fresh scent that they were probably confusing with the sharp fresh scent from urinal cakes, rather than from actual urine. This then took off.


Renato

So, it's your fault!
post #27 of 69
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So, it's your fault!

I stand to be corrected, but I suspect so.
Renato
post #28 of 69
That's what you get for spending way too much time in public toilets - unpleasant odor associations. Try pissing into the bushes next time you need to go.
post #29 of 69
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that's what you get for spending way too much time in public toilets - unpleasant odor associations. Try pissing into the bushes next time you need to go.

LOL
post #30 of 69
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That's what you get for spending way too much time in public toilets - unpleasant odor associations. Try pissing into the bushes next time you need to go.

Careful, boxwoods smell like cat urine.
post #31 of 69
Where the hell are all these bathrooms, diapers, cat pee litter boxes, et cetera that smell like Kouros, Lapidus, Old Spice...? I guess I've had a rougher life than most, because those former things, in my world, smell NOTHING like any fragrance I've smelled, not even Wings for Men!!!!

Just hyperbole, as someone already noted. And imprecise, too.
post #32 of 69
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Originally Posted by Swanky View Post

Where the hell are all these bathrooms, diapers, cat pee litter boxes, et cetera that smell like Kouros, Lapidus, Old Spice...? I guess I've had a rougher life than most, because those former things, in my world, smell NOTHING like any fragrance I've smelled, not even Wings for Men!!!!

Just hyperbole, as someone already noted. And imprecise, too.

I agree.
post #33 of 69
kouros..best men fragrance ever made..
post #34 of 69
Urine...ok!, but cakes...?
post #35 of 69
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Originally Posted by Trauerkraut View Post

Urine...ok!, but cakes...?

Language barrier?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinal_deodorizer_block
post #36 of 69
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Originally Posted by Swanky View Post

Just hyperbole, as someone already noted. And imprecise, too.

Hyperbole and imprecise to some, dead on to others. That's why they call em opinions.
post #37 of 69
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Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post

Language barrier?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinal_deodorizer_block

...I knew: small joke...!
post #38 of 69
A slight off-topic remark: my nose may not be trained enough, but I do get from Kouros no urinal cake note, however more of a scent situated somewhere between stale beer and musty leather
post #39 of 69
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Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post

I assume it is largely the combination of eugenol and animalic notes, including honey, which smells like urine to a lot of people. Also, I think it may have been reformulated because it smells a bit too "chemical-ish" to me, though this may be because of the strength of the ingredients relative to other fragrances with some of the same notes.

Well put as usual Bigs!

Civet+honey+clary sage = pee

Actually the pee is not a problem for me, it's more the matchup with the sweetness from carnation, jasmine, geranium, cinnamon and vanilla.
post #40 of 69
it smells like a gym dressing room where they tried to cover up the stench of sweat with urinal cakes but failled so everything kinda mixed = sweetish sweat stench = Kouros ^_^

btw i dont rly get pee
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post #43 of 69
Quote Originally Posted by Swanky View Post
Where the hell are all these bathrooms, diapers, cat pee litter boxes, et cetera that smell like Kouros, Lapidus, Old Spice...? I guess I've had a rougher life than most, because those former things, in my world, smell NOTHING like any fragrance I've smelled, not even Wings for Men!!!!

Just hyperbole, as someone already noted. And imprecise, too.

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Originally Posted by Hamp View Post

I agree.

Me, too, and wholeheartedly so. Although I was next to a horse about a month ago that let loose a firehose stream of piss that smelled quite a bit like Kouros' opening 15 mins or so.
post #44 of 69
I'd also like to understand it: I've already felt smell of almost all kinds of urine, never in a perfume.
post #45 of 69
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Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post

Language barrier?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinal_deodorizer_block


Discriminatory comments. Aaaffff.
post #46 of 69
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Originally Posted by Swanky View Post

Where the hell are all these bathrooms, diapers, cat pee litter boxes, et cetera that smell like Kouros, Lapidus, Old Spice...? I guess I've had a rougher life than most, because those former things, in my world, smell NOTHING like any fragrance I've smelled, not even Wings for Men!!!!

Just hyperbole, as someone already noted. And imprecise, too.

I agree entirely as well.

True, people are entitled to their opinions, but some could be less derogatory. I am sure the "urinal cake" association has put many a potential Kouros, etc, lover off even before smelling and appreciating such frags. That cannot be the objective or purpose of a fragrance discussion board.
post #47 of 69
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So...perhaps...

Creed and YSL make urinal smells?
post #48 of 69
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A guy smelling Kouros for the first time.lol

Thank you.
post #49 of 69
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Agreed.
post #50 of 69
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Originally Posted by perfaddict View Post

I agree entirely as well.

True, people are entitled to their opinions, but some could be less derogatory. I am sure the "urinal cake" association has put many a potential Kouros, etc, lover off even before smelling and appreciating such frags. That cannot be the objective or purpose of a fragrance discussion board.

These are all opinions, so of course it goes without saying that people have differing opinions. Also, I don't take issue with derogatory comments so much as with unhelpful ones. Hamp, the OP, was not only referring to Kouros, which is admittedly a unique scent and case. But we see such comments as "smells like dog poo" applied to more banal frags such as Brut. Get some dog poo, smear it on your hand and go to the Macy's counter and you won't find a single perfume there that smells "just like" your dog poo-caked hand (not even Unforgiveable). Hence the claims of hyperbole. It's often meant, I think, to be funny and occasionally it is...but for a new nose looking to try out a new fragrance how does comparing it to squirrel piss, dog crap, etc truly describe a given scent, in most cases? Part of why I refer to resources such as Basenotes is to become better informed, and I confess that "oh god it smelled like vomit and made me puke" doesn't teach me much. To each his own, of course and some may find such comments helpful. I am replying to the spirit of the original poster's query.
post #51 of 69
Sorry, double post.
post #52 of 69
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I would like to say thank you to those who did not mock my post. Your the best!
post #53 of 69
I think many comments spring from hyperbole, but I think there is a genuine element of truth in many "bathroom-esque" reactions. I imagine large aromachemical companies do a bit of cross-pollinating between products, with certain elements used as part of a larger composition in perfumes similarly being used in bathroom and/deodorizing products. I imagine many of the same chemicals we are accustomed to smelling are used in higher doses as part of less-complex smelling cleaning products.

Not too long ago I was in a gas station bathroom and smelled something very similar to the base of Chergui. While nobody would outright confuse the two products, since Chergui incorporates several other notes as part of its olfactory profile, there was nonetheless a strong similarity there.
post #54 of 69
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Originally Posted by Tappio View Post

I think many comments spring from hyperbole, but I think there is a genuine element of truth in many "bathroom-esque" reactions. I imagine large aromachemical companies do a bit of cross-pollinating between products, with certain elements used as part of a larger composition in perfumes similarly being used in bathroom and/deodorizing products. I imagine many of the same chemicals we are accustomed to smelling are used in higher doses as part of less-complex smelling cleaning products.

Not too long ago I was in a gas station bathroom and smelled something very similar to the base of Chergui. While nobody would outright confuse the two products, since Chergui incorporates several other notes as part of its olfactory profile, there was nonetheless a strong similarity there.

So, do you think Mocking members is good? I need to know because this will help me to know if I should post on this site.
post #55 of 69
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Originally Posted by Hamp View Post

I would like to say thank you to those who did not mock my post. Your the best!

No offense to you, but in case you have not ever used a forum before, this type of banter among members is common. No one in this entire thread said anything in an effort to offend or "mock" you, as you keep stating. You really have to lighten up a bit, and learn to laugh. After all, you started a thread about fragrances smelling like urinal cakes....
post #56 of 69
I like most cakes... I do not like the smell of urinals... Therefore I ____ Kouros!
post #57 of 69
What I'd like to know is why the criticism levelled at Kouros is never levelled at Kouros Cologne Sport, Kouros Eau D'Ete and all the other pure Kouros flankers (excluding Body Kouros).

At the end of the day, they're just slightly different versions of a watered down Kouros.
Regards,
Renato
post #58 of 69
Cat pee, urinal cakes. Thank God I've never had these kinds of association.
post #59 of 69
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

What I'd like to know is why the criticism levelled at Kouros is never levelled at Kouros Cologne Sport, Kouros Eau D'Ete and all the other pure Kouros flankers (excluding Body Kouros).

At the end of the day, they're just slightly different versions of a watered down Kouros.
Regards,
Renato

What I'd like to know is if all these people who criticize Kouros have at least smelled it, or they just go with the crowd.
post #60 of 69
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So, do you think Mocking members is good? I need to know because this will help me to know if I should post on this site.

I'm a bit confused, since my answer was made entirely in earnest. I only said that there can be similarities between certain fragrances and some cleaning or deodorizing products because they may employ some of the same aromachemicals. I have noticed some commercial products share vague similarities to fragrances I like, so it wasn't meant as a disparaging observation. I don't see anything mocking in my previous post.
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