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post #1 of 25
4/14/12 at 6:20am
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Hey guys, I received 2 samples from Parfumsraffy a while back and am revisiting them, ony problem is i can't remember for the life of me what they are. I'm pretty sure one is Kobe and the other one possible Uden?

With the one that i beleive if kobe, i get a amouage reflection vibe with it, not as sweet but opened up similiar. Sound familiar to the ones who have kobe? The other one is not sweet at all, very oudish, maybe vetiver, i suck at identifying notes. Its a mature smell, but smooth...I've smelt somethign like this, just can't recall what. Might not even be Uden , but its from shooting stars line.

Any ideas?
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post #2 of 25
4/14/12 at 6:42am
Kobe is the one with the awesome neroli/citrus note and a hint of oud.

Uden is a "marine fougere" with a coffee note.

Uden is a strange frag IMO, I don't get along with the coffee note. Kobe is great, but I don't love it enough to shell out the $$$$$.
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post #3 of 25
4/14/12 at 6:52am
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Originally Posted by Dorje123 View Post

Kobe is the one with the awesome neroli/citrus note and a hint of oud.

Uden is a "marine fougere" with a coffee note.

Uden is a strange frag IMO, I don't get along with the coffee note. Kobe is great, but I don't love it enough to shell out the $$$$$.

Yea i think you're right the one that i'm really loving right now must be Kobe. i can smell the citris/sweetness to it, but it seems to be dialed down a bit with a smooth/light oud note. I hope this is it lol

The one on my other arm has dried down a bit, and i think i may be getting a coffee note, not a sweet coffe, but more a dry coffee bean type smell...like i said i'm horribly at picking apart frags. a tad bit sweeter than the opening, but still a dry/mature type of smell imo.
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post #4 of 25
4/14/12 at 6:53am
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Originally Posted by Dorje123 View Post

Kobe is the one with the neroli/citrus note and a hint of oud.

Uden is a "marine fougere" with a coffee note.

Sounds about right.
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post #5 of 25
4/14/12 at 8:44am
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Ok well one of these is reminding me of MFK APOM, so i would assume this is Kobe.
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post #6 of 25
4/14/12 at 8:52am
As i have posted before I just love this one along with Uden. I can decide which I prefer, as of now Kobe reigns and does not have the spicy aspects Uden has. Love wearing Kobe in the mornings as its an eye opener.
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post #7 of 25
4/14/12 at 4:26pm
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Doing a side by side with APOM and Kobe, and i have to say they are extremely similar. Man this is going to be a tough one to justify gettign Kobe, when APOM is half the price. So far both are pretty strong and still detectable hours later. APOM seems to be stronger though.
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post #8 of 25
4/14/12 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by persianprince View Post

Doing a side by side with APOM and Kobe, and i have to say they are extremely similar. Man this is going to be a tough one to justify gettign Kobe, when APOM is half the price. So far both are pretty strong and still detectable hours later. APOM seems to be stronger though.

Whats funny is that I wore Uden last night. This morning I thought I wore Pure Havane and was surprised how similar Uden was to PH on my skin.
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post #9 of 25
4/14/12 at 5:07pm
Kobe does indeed share some similarities with APOM. I like both although I think I'd spring for Kobe if I was going to pick one up as the opening accord of Kobe is simply unmatched. Sadly, the dry down leaves a bit to be desired (would like less vanilla/orris to be present and instead amp up the dry dusty woods, maybe even add some guiac to keep it smooth but add a littly smoky/leather facet).

The opening of Uden smells VERY similar to the opening of Allure Homme. They go down somewhat divergent paths after 5-10 minutes, but those openings are almost identical.
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post #10 of 25
4/14/12 at 6:29pm
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Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post

Kobe does indeed share some similarities with APOM. I like both although I think I'd spring for Kobe if I was going to pick one up as the opening accord of Kobe is simply unmatched. Sadly, the dry down leaves a bit to be desired (would like less vanilla/orris to be present and instead amp up the dry dusty woods, maybe even add some guiac to keep it smooth but add a littly smoky/leather facet).

The opening of Uden smells VERY similar to the opening of Allure Homme. They go down somewhat divergent paths after 5-10 minutes, but those openings are almost identical.


Thanks SS, at least now I know I'm not crazy . Now it makes it even more of a decision to see if Kobe is worth it since I did not purchase apom because I thought it was took one what similiar to reflection man, which I adore.

trying to not have any redundancy in my wardrobe. So do you think if I own reflection, owning Kobe makes much sense
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post #11 of 25
4/14/12 at 7:08pm
I think Kobe and Reflection are suitably different - Kobe is a bit more mature, a bit less 'look at me', woodier and more overtly about the neroli. I find the scents project very different impressions to those who would smell it on you, and that alone makes me feel they are not redundant scents (I personally like to have variations on the few themes I love, for instance, Memoir is my signature scent, and L'Artisan's Iris Pallida is very different but yet similar w/ the guiac wood, vetiver, etc.. so it's like a lighter, irisy take on Memoir, and then RL Romance Silver is an even lighter fresher take on the theme as it also features tobacco, guiac, and a similar greyish black scent profile).

Before deciding on Kobe I'd recommend checking out MPG's Pour le Jeune Homme. It's drier and more herbal than Kobe, less mature and more 't-shirt casual.' The only drawback is its less than stellar longevity, but it's a scent best suited for summer and one that you would no doubt enjoy refreshing often, as the top notes are wonderful. Another bonus - it's FAR less expensive than Kobe.
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post #12 of 25
4/14/12 at 7:46pm
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Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post

I think Kobe and Reflection are suitably different - Kobe is a bit more mature, a bit less 'look at me', woodier and more overtly about the neroli. I find the scents project very different impressions to those who would smell it on you, and that alone makes me feel they are not redundant scents

Before deciding on Kobe I'd recommend checking out MPG's Pour le Jeune Homme. It's drier and more herbal than Kobe, less mature and more 't-shirt casual.' The only drawback is its less than stellar longevity, but it's a scent best suited for summer and one that you would no doubt enjoy refreshing often, as the top notes are wonderful. Another bonus - it's FAR less expensive than Kobe.

Totally agree.

SoS just how herbal is Jeune Homme ? Ive not anything about this one. But I have been on a fence with Kobe and Uden like persianprince.
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post #13 of 25
4/14/12 at 7:53pm
It's not that herbal - there is some rosemary in the opening, but after that it's mostly neroli + a dry nutmeg over sandalwood.
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post #14 of 25
4/14/12 at 8:11pm
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Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post

It's not that herbal - there is some rosemary in the opening, but after that it's mostly neroli + a dry nutmeg over sandalwood.


That sounds great. I need to try that one as well. Thanks SoS ! Ive pretty much ruled out Uden, though I like it, it might be too spicy for my tastes. I dont know why I got a big Pure Havane vibe from Uden after a wear. I am a fan of Allure Homme and agree as well with the opening of Uden. Also need to try 1861 an Nio before I make any decisions.
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post #15 of 25
4/14/12 at 8:16pm
Love Kobe, glad to have it in my collection
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post #16 of 25
4/15/12 at 4:03am
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Well the side by side with kobe and apom show that they defintely do share similarities, actually very close at certain stages. I will say that APom seems to perform much better on my skin As far as longevity. Woke up and it's still easily detectable, and kobe not so much.

Kobe is a bit fresher of a scent IMO, something in apom that gives it a bit of a dirtier smell, not really dirty but maybe just not as sweet/fresh as Kobe, maybe stronger cedar presence.

Going to be tough one between these two, especially since the cost is so drastic.
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post #17 of 25
4/15/12 at 4:17am
Kobe is going to be my first Xerjoff purchase. Seems like the majority here think this is the best scent from the Shooting Star Collection. IMO it`s a masterpiece.
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post #18 of 25
4/15/12 at 5:13am
Apom has better projection and longevity than Kobe on me, however Kobe has that superior quality feel. I also agree on the dirtier side of Apom while Kobe is a bit less heavy scent I think, tough choice both are good (I have only Apom and Kobe's sample), Kobe is better scent imo but more expensive.. And I think your bottle of Apom will last longer.
Uden's opening always reminds me of something else I've smelt before, then I get some kind of a boozy semi sweet acquatic combo, a bit weird but interestingly weird in a good way, just not something I want for the moment.

I'd also consider Nio, I like this one the most so far. 1861 is also worth checking out, that natural opening blast is impressive. I was considering getting some refreshing citrusy type scent for summer, and theses ones have now become my dilemma
Need a Nio Vs 1861 thread in the future lol
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post #19 of 25
4/15/12 at 6:22am
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Originally Posted by Ã* l'improviste View Post

Apom has better projection and longevity than Kobe on me, however Kobe has that superior quality feel. I also agree on the dirtier side of Apom while Kobe is a bit less heavy scent I think, tough choice both are good (I have only Apom and Kobe's sample), Kobe is better scent imo but more expensive.. And I think your bottle of Apom will last longer.
Uden's opening always reminds me of something else I've smelt before, then I get some kind of a boozy semi sweet acquatic combo, a bit weird but interestingly weird in a good way, just not something I want for the moment.

I'd also consider Nio, I like this one the most so far. 1861 is also worth checking out, that natural opening blast is impressive. I was considering getting some refreshing citrusy type scent for summer, and theses ones have now become my dilemma
Need a Nio Vs 1861 thread in the future lol



Thanks for the reply. In actually workin off a apom sample as well, so neither hav been purchased

Apom is defintely a hell of alot more reasonable priced, but you're right I need to sniff out the rest of shooting stars line before
ConsideRing buying a bottle. Have a goo sizes decant of idem on the way, very excited about this
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post #20 of 25
4/15/12 at 6:25am
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Originally Posted by Nersh View Post

Whats funny is that I wore Uden last night. This morning I thought I wore Pure Havane and was surprised how similar Uden was to PH on my skin.


Had used on my other forearm and you are right, this morning it smelled very similiar to pure havane. This is 9-10hrs later I get the ph vibe you had as well.
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post #21 of 25
4/15/12 at 7:58am
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Originally Posted by persianprince View Post

Had used on my other forearm and you are right, this morning it smelled very similiar to pure havane. This is 9-10hrs later I get the ph vibe you had as well.

Uden lasts forever. The scent on my clothes the next morning was very similar to Pure Havane as well.

Think I am going to do a Kobe split. Good stuff !
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post #22 of 25
4/15/12 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by Nersh View Post

Uden lasts forever. The scent on my clothes the next morning was very similar to Pure Havane as well.

Think I am going to do a Kobe split. Good stuff !



Who's splitting this?
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post #23 of 25
4/15/12 at 8:46am
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Who's splitting this?

Kron, 20 ML for 82 shipped. Not in US.
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post #24 of 25
4/15/12 at 2:09pm
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I've read some reviews of some people claiming Uden to be a bit generic and I don't get that at all. To me this comes off as a bit exotic, almost something i could see amouage creating. Has a bit of a jubliation vibe going on, not the same just something about it. Really enjoying it and it really does project/last all day!
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post #25 of 25
4/16/12 at 6:15pm
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Ok, so i ordered a few samples of Uden,Kobe and Incense rose. I just wanted to confirm what i was smelling was the right ones, since as i mentioned in the original post, the vials werent labeld and i was going off smell. So glad i did this, becuase cmoe to fine out, what i thought was completely backwards ! What i thought was Kobe, was uden and vice versa.

Which makes so much sense, since read this grapefruit opening in Uden being very similiar to Allure Homme and i remember sitting here not getting that at all, well now that i know which one Uden is, i do get that intial burst on the top that is similiar to Allure Homme.

Kobe on the other hand, is less sweet or citrisy and defintely can smell more of the oud with very light citris underdone, very nice balance. Up close smells heavier than it really is, At first doesn't appear that it would be a good warm weather frag, but after 5 minutes or so it starts to develop nicely...

Does this sound more accurate guys? lol
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