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Armand Basi Homme: Your thoughts?

post #1 of 22
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Would love to hear more thoughts on this. I'm looking for a monochromatic frag, and I have to say that the bottle of this scent has me completely hooked. I'm pretty sure I'm going to blind buy this regardless but still, would love to hear more recent opinions as it seems like this scent hasn't been mentioned here in years


Look at that gorgeous monochromaticism and beautiful use of hard lines.

Here are the listed notes for the scent:

Top notes:
cinnamon, lavender and cardamom;

middle notes
nutmeg, tonka bean, lilac, incense and lily-of-the-valley;

base notes
sandalwood, musk, vanilla, guaiac wood and cedar.

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I'm curious how well the monochromaticism of the bottle is reflected in the scent. I've heard some compare it to Le Male, saying it is lighter and less sweet, so I have no doubt that the white aspects are present, but are there any darker elements to the scent? I'm thinking - hoping - that the listed guiacwood will rear its head in the dry down. Guiacwood is basically present in ALL of my favorite scents (Memoir Man, Colonia Intensa, L'Anarchiste, Burberry London, etc - it's present in like 3/4 of my wardrobe faves) and I'm hoping it presents some of its dark smoky woody goodness in the dry down of this scent. Also, how noticeable is the listed lilac note? I absolutely love the scent of lilacs (well, who doesn't?) and it's so rare to find it in a men's scent. In fact, the notes list for this scent basically reads as a dream notes list for me. Combined with the awesome bottle.. yeah, I need this scent! So, tell me more, tell me more please!


Also, does anyone know if it has been reformulated? The above picture is the new packaging, while the original packaging looked like this



To be honest, I really love the new packaging; that box is stellar! It seems easy enough to find sellers selling either version, and I suppose I should go with the old packaging as that is surely what 90%, if not all, of the reviewers are remarking on in their reviews, but I don't know if I can resist the allure of the new packaging. Silly, I know, but it is what it is.
post #2 of 22
A Le Male type idea, though not as obnoxious to me. I recently swapped my bottle of it off and got something I can enjoy. This one is more for others than for yourself.
post #3 of 22
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Bigsly, why do you say that? Do you find it lacking development/dynamism? Is it just a sweet amorphous blob, or is there more going on? Is it really linear?

Please share any and all thoughts and details as to why you found it unfulfilling.

Also, did you have the old or new packaging?
post #4 of 22
I got it without a box so I don't know about reformulations. It did seem well composed. I wouldn't say it was totally blob-like, but perhaps the simplicity is what I wasn't thrilled with. The lavender is strong, and it combines with the tonka, so you get that fairly generic, semi-gourmand type scent that's so common. It dries out a bit and there's a wood not that's not obnoxious (unlike iso e super and that "hamster cage cedar"), so it smells okay but I don't see the point of it to an aficionado. If you want a party frag that's got some subtlety to it, this is a good choice. There's a kind of mild Body Kouros aspect to it (this has a mild incense in the drydown that's nice). As you probably know, I focus on the drydown, so it might have a great opening, for all I know.
post #5 of 22
This is a very nice oriental, that almost goes gourmand.

It's most prominent notes, to my nose, are cinnamon, nutmeg, tonka and sandalwood.

The longevity is average, the sillage light.

The overall effect reminds me of the Spanish version of rice pudding: arroz con leche (rice with milk.)

The single thing that keeps the fragrance from going completely gourmand is that you will pick up the lilly of the valley midway, and the musky drydown.

I once handed over my bottle to a fellow Basenoter to sniff, and he remarked he didn't feel the need to own it because he already had Armani Code. He found them similar. I don't necessarily find them similar.

That said, I don't think the look of the bottle is a statement as to what the bottle contains.

-Bossa
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks Bigsly. It's not sounding so bad actually, especially as of late I've really taken to many simple and direct scents. I'm thinking the wood note you picked up is probably the gaiac, which is usually pretty smooth, inoffensive, and slightly smoky, and is also sometimes leathery or tea-like (note how it appears in a lot of scents that feature a tea or leather note!).

A few more questions if you'll humor me (and I really appreciate it!):

Just how prevalent is the tonka? Is it like so many modern scents where there is this tonka aura that floats throughout the whole scent's evolution? (a couple examples: Armani Code, YSL L'Homme, Playboy Hollywood, even Allure Homme, heck, there are so many)

Do you recall there being any darkness or smokiness in the base?
post #7 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks Bossa - the Code comment is interesting. I actually really like Code, I find it to be a simple and direct scent that is imminently pleasurable if not intellectually stimulating or challenging. I've still considered picking some up because there are times when such a simple comfort scent is what really hits the spot. I love that gaiac/anise/floral/tonka accord, I just wish the tonka was dialed back a bit.

Do you find the sweetness and powderiness levels of AB Homme to be more or less prominent than in Code? Is AB Homme more complex to your nose; does it exhibit more development? Does AB Homme have any of the darker aspects that are evident in Code?

Thanks again.
post #8 of 22
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Also - did either of you pick up a distinct lilac note, or is it lost in part of a larger accord?
post #9 of 22
I don't know what's going on with these frags, because the lavender/tonka/gourmand aspect seems to dominate the other notes, and I'm lucky to pick out something like a mild woody quality. I don't think the tonka or lavender is too strong, but there is this accord that comes across as a bit of a blob, though that may be mostly my perceptions of these kinds of frags. You may be able to detect more than I can in this one, and skin chemistry may also be a factor. Think of Body Kouros and Le Male combined but also made more subtle.
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 
I like the subtle and light descriptions - scents are always extremely strong on me and I get extreme longevity out of everything, so I really do enjoy scents that most find to be too weak.

I'm actually kind of looking at this scent as a replacement for Reflection Man as I just can't tolerate that scent any more - it's just too much. Too sweet. Too strong. Too chaotic (damn that corn tortilla note when it rears its ugly head!).

I once owned Body Kouros but got rid of it for being overbearing. Le Male I really like, in theory, but it too is just too much, and there's a plasticky quality to the vanilla that really wears on my nerves as the hours go by.

Is the lavender here medicinal at all, or the very smooth and sweet kind? Actually, I should just ask how the lavender here compares to the lavender in Dior Homme, which has one of my favorite renditions of lavender, ever.
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post

Do you find the sweetness and powderiness levels of AB Homme to be more or less prominent than in Code? Is AB Homme more complex to your nose; does it exhibit more development? Does AB Homme have any of the darker aspects that are evident in Code?

The sweetness of AB Homme is about par with Code. But, AB is less powdery. The complexity and development of the two frags is par, too.

I don't find AB Homme dark, but instead it's comforting, "light" and spicy. If I were to compare AB Homme to others fragrances, I'd say it is closer to a dialed down version of Jaipur Homme or Kenzo Jungle Homme. Think of milk, nutmeg, cinnamon, yellow currants, and sandalwood and light florals.

If you want to try an offering by AB that is really similar to Le Male, check out Basi Homme (in the black cube.) The lavender is dialed up on this one.

-Bossa
post #12 of 22
I might like it if the notes weren't kind of smeared out, but I didn't find anything about it offensive (lavender and tonka wasn't too strong). Nothing "dark," to me, in it.
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by Bossa Nova View Post

If I were to compare AB Homme to others fragrances, I'd say it is closer to a dialed down version of Jaipur Homme or Kenzo Jungle Homme.

But not half as good as either IMO.
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
If anyone reading this wants to swap me a sample of it for one or more samples that I have (check my samples list, it's mostly accurate - or ask about a specific frag(s) as I may have samples of them) I would really appreciate it.

I know it's not a real expensive blind buy, but there are number of expensive scents I want a full bottle of and I'm thinking I'll really be kicking myself if I waste $35 on this.
post #15 of 22
This is my favorite fragrance... It replaced Givenchy Play/Intense. How many "men's" scents feature a lilac note? I believe that's the secret ingredient in this one.

I prefer subtle, gourmandy, pleasant scents and this one was tailor made for me. Light floral, vanilla, light incense. Amazing.

The bottle cap is very cheap, and the initial blast isn't all that pleasant but a couple of minutes in, until the end, I enjoy ever single second. I feel like I'm obsessive compulsive when I wear it because I just have to sniff my wrists after I apply it.
post #16 of 22
Sweet and musky, but not too sweet. Reminds me of Kenzo Jungle PH or Musc Ravageur. Good stuff in my opinion.
post #17 of 22
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Ended up blind buying this and am really enjoying it! Here's the quick initial impressions review I wrote up for Fragrantica:

"Early impressions of this are very good. It has components of Body Kouros, Le Male, Armani Code, and Azzaro Visit (a similar cedar/nutmeg/guiacwood accord in each, although it is more woody and prominent in Visit than Armand Basi PH).

I love the interplay between the light/white notes (tonka, vanilla, lily of the valley, lilac) and the dark guiacwood which is bolstered by some anise-like note. Thanks to the prominent guiacwood, this scent is more waxy/woody vanillic rather than powdery vanilla (as is Armani Code).

Sweet without being too sweet, sexy without being ostentatious about it like 1 Million or its ilk, and very versatile. This was a blind buy that went very very well!"
post #18 of 22
I hear it's similar to Corduroy. If that's the case, I would probably love it.
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post

I hear it's similar to Corduroy. If that's the case, I would probably love it.

I would say it's quite different.
post #20 of 22
Hey SOS...glad to hear you love it. It's really a nice piece of work. I'd love for someone to tell me another male fragrance with a lilac note. I haven't found one.

I'm with Bigsly... It is not like Corduroy, nor do I understand the LeMale comparison. For me, Armand Basi is in a whole different strata than LeMale and Corduroy. I actually find LeMale and Corduroy similar and don't really like either one all that much.
post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 
This is really more like a mix of Body Kouros + Azzaro Visit, with just hints of Code and Le Male. Despite resembling so many other frags in some way or another, as a whole Armand Basi Homme is quite unique. Am I the only one who loves the opening? It's an awesome sweet vanillic lavender underpinned by cinnamon and incense. Excellent! The heart becomes more a mix of Body Kouros and Visit, as mentioned, although there's a darkness present thanks to the guaiac and anisey notes that makes it more interesting than either. It's also not as loud as Body Kouros or as dry and linear as Visit.

I've worn this 4 times in a row now since I've got it. It's an incredibly easy wear - there is nothing in it that is irritating or grating. None of that excessively dry and annoying cedar present in so many current releases. It's sweet but not sickly sweet like Body Kouros. It's really a nice and pleasant wear that is not as linear as some have made it out to be.
post #22 of 22
After the first couple of minutes, I'm right with you...just a great, enjoyable, different scent. For me, the incense is too strong in the initial blast. Once that drops down it's magical to my nose. A current favorite. Not the most masculine thing out there but it's too good not to like.
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