Basenotes › Basenotes Forums › Fragrance Discussion › Female Fragrance Discussion › April 2012 Blind Sniff: Cure for Cold
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

April 2012 Blind Sniff: Cure for Cold - Page 3

post #121 of 271
4/26/12 at 1:33pm
It's like an auntie perfume but has a soaring fresher fruity laundry note within the powder, maybe orange or mandarin or peach. The floral notes don't sit quite comfortably with the fruity notes, like a bowl of fruit salad curdling the cream.
Reply
Reply

Features on Basenotes

Petals Falling From The Sky - A Report From The Cote d'Azur's Bataille De Fleurs
Basenotes Reader Awards 2013 - Finalists Announced.
Greatest Hits: Annick Menardo
post #122 of 271
4/26/12 at 1:37pm
It is settling down to a quite fresh, fruity floral with talcum tones. It isn't very strong now. There is another note almost like metal.

Back to the paper version... that smells a bit more like lemon sherbet, but is almost gone.
Reply
Reply
post #123 of 271
4/26/12 at 2:06pm
I'm going to squirt again and return to the questions for anyone out there......

Sweetness .... not at the start but gets sweeter
Concentration .... cologne, isn't strong
Niche/designer/mass market .... I think mass market (I hope it isn't really expensive)
Thin or rich .... thin
Linear or changing .... it changes, but not too much
Masculine or feminine .... towards masculine on second sniffing, 4ish
New or old .... old fashioned
What do you like about it? ... not much, it's clean and fresh though
What don't you like about it? ... it smells artificial like a laundry freshener
Some notes that stick out most ... none really stick out

I'm at a loss for a guess yet. I'm going back to the cold remedies, and the only thing I can think of bearing a remote resemblance is maybe lemon and honey as in a lemsip. It could be the vase of hyacinths in the sick room.... The aspirin for the headache maybe
Reply
Reply
post #124 of 271
4/26/12 at 3:47pm
I have constantly re-applied this on me and on paper.

I actually like it more and more as I go along. Maybe I am getting desensitized

I think this is a old fashioned classic mans cologne now, I think the citrus start might be grapefruit, or a neroli twangy orange type. It could even just be lemon, but there is possibly a bit of bergamot too. I think the aspirin thing is the edge of a lemony plant like melissa or litsea cubeba or verbena. There is definitely lavender in here I think, but quite a sharp one. I think there is a woody note in here, but again it's sharp like cedar, not like sandalwood. There is a creamy note but it has a twist like fruit, so maybe tonka bean or benzoin.

It's the lemon sherbet thing that gets me to thinking it's not quite straightforwardly cheap perhaps. The longevity is shocking. I also think you are tricking us maybe.

I'm sending a guess and going to bed. See you all in the morning and you'd better have it by then because I cannot concentrate on anything else.... and I have lots to do tomorrow.
Reply
Reply
post #125 of 271
4/26/12 at 4:02pm
mumsy, after reading just one or two of your posts about B, I got an idea in my head. You later post about it being inexpensive made me change my mind, but if it really is what first I thought, you are a genius!
Reply
Reply
post #126 of 271
4/26/12 at 4:03pm
interesting, interesting...
I find the thin / cologne perception especially curious.

so you think it's a metallic, musky, citrusy, honey-ish fragrance? there are some people that agree with you
any spices?
Reply
Reply
post #127 of 271
4/26/12 at 4:24pm
To me it seems thin too.
And the lavendar is quite sharp and ''herb-like''.
I was away again, and internet here is very slooooowwwww, I need to re-apply. I found the opening very sharp btw.
Reply
Reply
post #128 of 271
4/26/12 at 4:25pm
To me it seems thin too.
And the lavendar is quite sharp and ''herb-like''.
I was away again, and internet here is very slooooowwwww, I need to re-apply. I found the opening very sharp btw.
Reply
Reply
post #129 of 271
4/26/12 at 4:38pm
and citrussy too by me.
Reply
Reply
post #130 of 271
4/26/12 at 4:49pm
it's very difficult to post. I hope basenotes is not going down again.
Reply
Reply
post #131 of 271
4/26/12 at 4:51pm
I find it quite sharp, quite thin, quite citrussy with some spices and very liniar.
And I am getting tired of it.
I agree with Mumsy, an oldfashioned man's cologne.

(Or a very expensive niche frgrance which is simulating and oldfashined man's cologne..... One never knows now a days....)
Reply
Reply
post #132 of 271
4/26/12 at 5:40pm
There is something spicy but I can't pin it down
Reply
Reply
post #133 of 271
4/26/12 at 5:41pm
Clove? or am I now completely becloved and can't smell anything else anymore ever?
Nutmeg...
Reply
Reply
post #134 of 271
4/26/12 at 5:42pm
It reminds me of Old Spice
Reply
Reply
post #135 of 271
4/26/12 at 5:44pm
Where is everybody?
Reply
Reply
post #136 of 271
4/26/12 at 7:04pm
Thread Starter 
I am back home from work, M. and S. are asleep and RIngER is just entering her front door.

Some fragrances have class, others -- brass! (that's about twangy orang-ish metallic lavender -- all words are taken from your posts, ladies!). \\\\

Mumsy, old-fashioned is the descriptor I was looking forward to seeing. Nobody makes the old-fashioned like the manufacturers of B do (every once in a while, of course).
Reply
Reply
post #137 of 271
4/26/12 at 7:48pm
So I made myself come to the bottom of this thread without reading other's impressions. I will now add my 2 cents on "B"
The color in this vial is very pale yellow.
Opening is a straight up citrus, not complex. It’s slightly sweetened, but still has a tart lemon feel. Lemon with a tad of sugar in it. With this there is a resinous feel which brings out comparisons to furniture polish. In just a few seconds, the lavender becomes apparent.
The dry down starts very quickly as the top notes burn off in a few minutes. There are some floral notes, which initially I thought were Iris (it seemed a little dough-y) but now I’m not detecting anymore. It becomes fainter, powderier and had a touch of something green in the base. Over all, a “clean” fragrance with no staying power. It may be trying to be a modern chypre, but frankly is too weak and boring too pull it off.
Concentration: EDT or Eau de cologne.
Masculine/feminine: very unisex -- I'd say 5
Likely mass market
It develops from the strong citrus to a faint citrus/lavender/floral over about 1 hour, then I'm hardpressed to smell much of anything.

OK, I am going to read what others thought of this one. There are many citrus-y colognes I like much better than this one. I thought the opening had potential, but then it just fizzled...
Reply
Reply
post #138 of 271
4/26/12 at 7:55pm
Old fashioned, huh....there goes my "trying to be a modern chypre" thoughts...
Reply
Reply
post #139 of 271
4/26/12 at 8:07pm
Sent a guess after Twolf's "old fashioned" comment gave me an idea
Reply
Reply
post #140 of 271
4/26/12 at 8:08pm
It does last quite a long time on me
Reply
Reply
post #141 of 271
4/26/12 at 8:25pm
Very interesting, F. I have to keep respraying -- this only lasts 30 minutes on my skin. I haven't tried on paper yet. Will do that now....
Reply
Reply
post #142 of 271
4/26/12 at 8:29pm
On my skin easily 4 hours or more!
Reply
Reply
post #143 of 271
4/26/12 at 11:56pm
I'm barking up the wrong tree. I go back to cheap as my hand itches this morning. My guess would not have done that.

I'm going to look at some Avon or suchlike later, but I will be in and out today so will probably chime in later when Frou and Ringer are around.
Reply
Reply
post #144 of 271
4/27/12 at 12:38am
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrouFrou View Post

Clove? or am I now completely becloved and can't smell anything else anymore ever?

That is so funny. I read becloved for beloved. How sweet for a newlywed thought I.
Reply
Reply
post #145 of 271
4/27/12 at 12:49am
I'm having one more guess then I will leave it alone till later..... maybe

I think it is very mass market indeed and for a long time
Reply
Reply
post #146 of 271
4/27/12 at 1:48am
I'm off out and have just squirted it down my front so I can sniff and drive safely.

Just a quick thought that the citrus edge thing could be lemon with ginger, the green/rose thing could be petitgrain and the rose thing just could be a touch of cheaper geranium. It doesn't smell 'real'. The aspirin note is very pronounced on me and all I can find for that online is salicylic acid.

The alco-citrus opening is a real blast, enough to make me sneeze violently a few times and miss the very fast transition into the lavender edged floral before it shifts to the aspirin. Blink, and you miss this one. It's already got to the creamy drydown as I type.

I already think my last guess is wrong. This is too medicinal floral for just a citrus led cologne.
Reply
Reply
post #147 of 271
4/27/12 at 3:00am
we had two guesses, 4711 Echt Kolonisch Wasser Müelhens and Histoires de Parfums 1873. both were incorrect.

interestingly only basenotes directory mentions a citrus in the notes of this fragrance, and in no note list to I find lavender. This doesn't mean they are not there, just that not in the note lists. I do get a certain citrus from it, spiked with some spices.
there is musk though.

geranium is a good guess. famously geranium has a toothpaste smell to it, what else can be like that? apparently that note is the one most people agree on and smell strongly in this fragrance.

I find it amusing you guys think this is almost a conformist fragrance, bland and boring.
pick yourselves up and Carry On people. you have toppled a controversial fragrance, all you have to do is guess the name
Reply
Reply
post #148 of 271
4/27/12 at 4:41am
Ok, back for 15 mins. Oh my goodness.... whose reputation have we ruined? They will have to send us all some samples of their others to redeem themselves.

I have been writing notes and trying to smell again from scratch.

Citrus alcoholic blast
then floral ginger with something rounded and plantlike like geranium but it isn't so rosy as that, so maybe petitgrain, maybe even spearminty.
Orris-like powder note like lilac.
Sour note like hyrax wee.
Like stale powder.
Very familiar comfort zone smell like great aunties face powder
Vanilla base-ishy but not quite.
It is a spicy vanilla but gentle. I think it could be tonka bean.

Here is a sort of summary of another sniffing session

T lemon sherbetty, bergamoty, touch of tangerine, mandarin or orange

M lavenderish or lilac or irissy note, geraniumish rosy rounded lifting note, petitgrainishy, spearminty greeny planty rounded note. A gingeresque sort of spicy note

B coumarinic, greeny vetiver type of vanillic note, an amberish touch and maybe musky

An overall soapy, powdery quality with a laundry uplift.

It is a nice smell but very short lived on me and my paper.

I could just be making all this up and talking a load of rubbish....... I thought I would be so good at this and it's sooooo hard when there are soooooo many frags to choose from.
Reply
Reply
post #149 of 271
4/27/12 at 6:18am
I have problems posting, base notes won't let me post, this is a test
Reply
Reply
post #150 of 271
4/27/12 at 6:22am
Hi Frou, goodie, glad you're here too.

I am none the wiser yet but we have a few leads to work on from Mr P.
Reply
Reply
post #151 of 271
4/27/12 at 6:43am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twolf View Post


Some fragrances have class, others -- brass! (that's about twangy orang-ish metallic lavender -- all words are taken from your posts, ladies!). \\\\

Mumsy, old-fashioned is the descriptor I was looking forward to seeing. Nobody makes the old-fashioned like the manufacturers of B do (every once in a while, of course).


Clues.... but which frag is the mystery? I love this game, it's like a stinky whodunnit.

ethylene brassylate? a synthetic musk - powdery sweet floral ambrette musk woody
Reply
Reply
post #152 of 271
4/27/12 at 6:52am
It's kind of fougeresque but maybe peppermint....

I'm giving birth to another guess.....
Reply
Reply
post #153 of 271
4/27/12 at 6:58am
OOOOOH, maybe, I've just looked up it's name...... could be........ is it?
Reply
Reply
post #154 of 271
4/27/12 at 7:06am
Noooooh. I'm already wrong before I get answered. No Lavender stated in post 147... knickers!
Reply
Reply
post #155 of 271
4/27/12 at 7:14am
It may be a sister or a brother from the same family maybe?
Reply
Reply
post #156 of 271
4/27/12 at 7:19am
nope, mumsy as you have realized yourself, it's not acqua di parma. although, there is probably lavender in it even though it's not in the note lists.

Carry On

I will now confirm that mint is in fragrantica note list, and in almost every review in basenotes directory.

here's a method to search for the fragrance. if you googled the following line:
site:www.basenotes.net mint
it would show you all the threads&directory entries within basenotes that contain the word "mint". and nothing else. useful tool. in fact if you just add one adjective used within the thread, it pops up immediately in the results.
Reply
Reply
post #157 of 271
4/27/12 at 7:24am
I hope it isn't this one..... guess firing off
Reply
Reply
post #158 of 271
4/27/12 at 7:35am
it is also not creed - green valley.
good guess though
Reply
Reply
post #159 of 271
4/27/12 at 8:13am
Thread Starter 
My Class vs Brass comment...... Uhmmmm..... almost every reviewer mentions this slight metallic smell -- which to me smells like a copper penny warmed between the palms.

So, you all seem to think it is a mass market cologne? Let me disappoint you -- it is a designer scent.

Can we all come to some sort of consensus in terms of target audience: women? men? unisex? age group?

All three of you mention some sort of citrus (lemon), but in reality it is another citrus, brassy in color.

And what about that spice (aside from mint, which is herb, and ginger which is not that prominent on this skin)? Lingers? Tingles? Dry?
Reply
Reply
post #160 of 271
4/27/12 at 8:33am
to further the hints, some would argue that it's actually niche

thanks for the help twolf! I'm terrible at giving hints.
Reply
Reply
post #161 of 271
4/27/12 at 8:37am
Other citruses mentioned were tangerine, mandarin or orange

Spices mentioned have been ginger and clove so far, but no cloves apparently

It has wavered from mass to designer to mass again

Consensus seems to be all three sniffers thinking slightly more to the male of unisex

I'm having another guess.
Reply
Reply
post #162 of 271
4/27/12 at 8:42am
If it is what I have guessed, then we are in trouble with the scent police....
Reply
Reply
post #163 of 271
4/27/12 at 8:48am
well ding, ding!
we have our first correct guesser. congrats mumsy. you are probably getting all the hints now
Reply
Reply
post #164 of 271
4/27/12 at 8:54am
I am going in half an hour though... The Q is taking me to the Museum!
Reply
Reply
post #165 of 271
4/27/12 at 8:56am
I knew it! Trust me to consider a scent mass market, if not actually drugstore, and it turns out to be something totally niche!
Pfffff!
Reply
Reply
post #166 of 271
4/27/12 at 8:57am
I did too honeybun.... I think they will live.
Reply
Reply
post #167 of 271
4/27/12 at 9:00am
The hints are thick and fast from SP and T and I just couldn't see in the dark.
Reply
Reply
post #168 of 271
4/27/12 at 11:15am
Thread Starter 
Congratulations to mumsy -- see, all your hard work has resulted in a brilliant guess.
Reply
Reply
post #169 of 271
4/27/12 at 1:17pm
Well done Mumsy! I'm off with these new hints to do some searching.
Reply
Reply
post #170 of 271
4/27/12 at 1:28pm
Thread Starter 
To help you some, RingER: as per #161 you have reached a consensus -- "slightly more to the male of unisex" -- a wonderfully correct one, too!
Reply
Reply
post #171 of 271
4/27/12 at 1:37pm
Thread Starter 
Frou, I did not know -- after living there 9 years -- there were museums in DFW area worth of seeing for 5 hours! LOL
Reply
Reply
post #172 of 271
4/27/12 at 2:13pm
I sent a guess, but feeling very unsure. Brassy hint, metal references, but still....could it be?
Reply
Reply
post #173 of 271
4/27/12 at 2:26pm
Is anyone playing this game except for the sniffers? Not that I mind, but I was expecting questions from others.
Reply
Reply
post #174 of 271
4/27/12 at 6:29pm
Thread Starter 
RingER, I cannot comment on your guess since I do not know what it is.

M., sometimes we have questions from the spectators. Sometimes spectators will PM you individually without posting on a forum with suggestions. We have had three spectator guesses submitted so far: two for A and one for B, all three incorrect.
Reply
Reply
post #175 of 271
4/27/12 at 6:31pm
RingER shoots, and scores! I was totally expecting it after #172
You can move on to C and take notes, but let's wait for frou before posting.

Congrats ringer!
Reply
Reply
post #176 of 271
4/27/12 at 6:38pm
Thread Starter 
FrouFrou, you must be doing all DFW museums in one day today, I know......

Congratulations, RingER. After she wrote to me in a PM that "brassy" reference was a major key for her, it should be easy for FrouFrou, I suppose.
Reply
Reply
post #177 of 271
4/27/12 at 6:51pm
What a fun game this is! I couldn't allow dawn to rise on this scent un-identified. I need to get kiddos to bed before I start to analyze "C".
Reply
Reply
post #178 of 271
4/27/12 at 7:20pm
I am following closely here. I got A right but with B, I only had one initial idea based on an early description by mumsy. Given the latest developments, it was probably wrong.
I am looking forward to finding out what B is. Everyone is great!
Reply
Reply
post #179 of 271
4/27/12 at 7:28pm
Thread Starter 
Take your time, please. This said, I appreciate your mini reviews -- not just "I got apples!" or "I got sandalwood!" -- but trying to understand and describe a fragrance as a whole. This is a blatantly honest approach, without knowing that a fragrance of the moment comes from a huge successful company (I personally will never forget "synthetic grape-based pop in a men's locker room " about Chanel No.5) or a small and seemingly unimportant manufacturer.

About "niche-ism" of B: S. is right that some people will argue that it is from a designer company.
1) They do not produce handpurses, shoes, lipstick or underwear or what not.
2) Their distribution is somewhat limited especially for a handful of their fragrances.
3) Advertisements are virtually non-existent.
So, here are your three denominators to be included into the niche sector of the perfume economy. However, price-wise, no matter how unusual and exclusive B might smell, it is comfortably within a bracket of designer scents (one of the spectator's guesses was Chanel Les Exclusifs Eau de Cologne, incorrect).

I will be working all day tomorrow, only will check in early in the morning and late at night. PMs are answered though (yes, all by themselves!LOL).

Editing: Hi DD!
Reply
Reply
post #180 of 271
4/27/12 at 7:35pm
Thread Starter 
RingER, thanks for becoming a paying contributor. People like you keep BN servers going. (*knock on the wood, dummy*)
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Female Fragrance Discussion
Basenotes › Basenotes Forums › Fragrance Discussion › Female Fragrance Discussion › April 2012 Blind Sniff: Cure for Cold