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If I'm amsosmic for Musk, how can I tell what I'm missing ? Others with the same problem ?

post #1 of 7
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I'm coming to the conclusion that I must be amnosmic to musk.

I have a big 5ml decant of Musk Kulbi Kan, and I can soak myself in the stuff, and I get none of the skanky dirty rotting urinious notes that seem to be the main attraction of this Lutens Classic.

All I smell is a not-particularly-interesting sweetish somewhat rose-floralish thing that fades quicker than I might want it to. If I use my imagination, I might get an edge-wise hint of smoke, but even that could be illusionary.

I suspect I'm not the only one with this problem, so I have two questions.

1) If you are among that apparently-some-what common group of people with the same problem, what does MKK smell like to you ?

2) How would I go about getting a sense of what musk actually does smell like ?

As an aside, I seemingly have no problem ( or so I think ) smelling many of the nasty smells that musk apparently smells like to some people, and I certainly have no problem smelling castorium, the natural musk of beavers.

We used to canoe along the river and picnic at a spot where beavers would make those little mud pie-like scent mounds, and if the weather was hot, and the wind turned in the wrong direction, the musky sweetness could almost drive you out of the place. I can also smell the sulferious musk of skunks as well.

I'm assuming that the musk used in perfume is different than those two.....but how would I be able to tell ?

Are there places that sell straight-up samples of the sort used in perfume, and which might be strong enough for me to get a hint of what people are talking about when they talk about musk ? Are there "reference musk" types of perfume that might be able to tell the tale ? I always thought that MKK was one of them, but perhaps I'm wrong ?

But my sense is that if I can't smell anything particularly special in MKK, then I must indeed be amnosmic for musk.

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post #2 of 7
I think there must be many who are anosmic to musk. I can't smell Annick Goutal Musc Nomade at all , Narciso Rodriguez Musc oil was nada too and MKK did not smell beast- like in any way to me. I thought it was quite pleasant ! *LOL*

I can smell clean musk eg Nasomatto Silver Musk . Musc by Mona di Orio is more than just musk so I smell that well.
post #3 of 7
I think that everybody has his or her own blind spots for particular musks (Luca Turin makes the point in his book a few times). There are hundreds of different musks, there is no single one used in perfumery. Evidently you happen to be anosmic to whichever musk is the main constituent of MKK.

Perhaps you can try smelling other perfumes that contain dirty musks - examples are Kiehl's original musk, Kouros, Kurkdjian Absolue pour le soir. I don't know which particular musks they contain, if they are different you might be able to smell them.

cacio
post #4 of 7
Or perhaps some of the Montales: Musk to Musk, White Musk, Black Musk and a few others to see if you can perceive something
common missing in others.
post #5 of 7
Musks are tricky because there are so many kinds. White musks are actually used in "unscented" soaps and products and are basically a clean white soapy smell. "Gold musks" are like slightly funky soap. "Laundry musks" are the scent agents commonly used in fabric softeners and also smell hyper-clean. It's really easy to not really smell these because our brains have been programmed to think of these smells as "clean" or "plain" and not really register them, the same way that we don't really notice what water tastes like.

The skanky notes that people think of as musks (MKK, Musc Ravageur, Pour Le Soir, old school 60's musks, etc) are usually made with civetone, from what I read. It's actually a bit of a misnomer, because modern musk chemicals really don't smell like animal butt, the way we imagine. I've smelled pure civetone in the Le Labo olfactory kit (if you're near a Le Labo counter, just ask really nicely...). It mostly smells like Jicky minus the lavender, which is a polite way of saying that it smells like milky, creamy baby poo sprinkled with cinnamon and talcum powder.
post #6 of 7
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Originally Posted by rogalal View Post

It mostly smells like Jicky minus the lavender, which is a polite way of saying that it smells like milky, creamy baby poo sprinkled with cinnamon and talcum powder.

He-he-he-he-he!

The thing that freaked me out was discovering that some of the macrocyclic musks have fruity facets! Whoa! I did not expect that.

Yes - I think I'm "hypoösmic" (or whatever) to musks. I generally don't find any of them repulsive, and find many of them to be rather "clean" smelling. But I always smell them when they're there.
post #7 of 7
As others have said, there are hundreds if not thousands of musks used in perfumery, and it's likely that almost everyone is anosmic to at least a couple of them.

But I also suspect that there's a hype element too. Like you, I get nothing very skanky, urinous, or rotting from MKK. Or from Musc Ravageur. But I'm not sure if that's because I'm anosmic to something or because these perfumes just aren't as dirty as they've been hyped to be. For the record, I've worn both out and never had anyone flee in disgust, and have even had one or two compliments.

On the other hand, I get lots of urine from Le Temps d'une Fete and Odalisque. And loads of animalic skank from Kiehl's Musk, Bal a Versailles, Cuir de Russie, La Nuit, and Cuir Mauresque.
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