Basenotes › Basenotes Forums › Fragrance Discussion › Male Fragrance Discussion › MFD Archive › Navegar: Y u No love?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Navegar: Y u No love?

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
Sorry for the obnoxious thread title. But what is equally obnoxious (ok, not obnoxious, but confusing at least!) is why Navegar doesn't really seem to get any love. I never see it mentioned when people are looking for summer scents, aquatics, or woody scents. I never really see it mentioned at all, in fact.

Maybe that's because Navegar is kind of an odd scent. It has the light weight and general transparency of many aquatics, but is in fact quite woody and peppery. It's not woody enough though to be mentioned alongside Hinoki or Tumulte or what have you. It's a hybrid scent that doesn't clearly fit into any category, and maybe that's why it gets little love (that and the fact that many have longevity issues with it. I find it lasts all day, but can lose the scent for long periods and think it is gone when it isn't.)

So why do I love Navegar and think it deserves more love here? Simply because it is evocative. Navegar really does call to mind the sailing on the ocean. No, this isn't sipping drinks on your yacht ala Erolfa, or those same drinks at the oceanside resort ala Virgin Island Water. This isn't some imagined paradise full of ripe melons ala Acqua di Gio. Navegar is the scent of an ancient trade ship loaded up with black gold; cedar barrels packed to the brim with peppercorns. Hints of the smooth and intoxicating scent of anise, the other spice on board, are also carried by the gentle breeze.

Navegar is the scent of standing on the deck of that ship, under an endless expanse of blue sky and surrounded by an equally endless expanse of blue waters. It's the scent of the salty sea spray that intermittently caresses your face as the ship cuts through the waves. There's a sense of space and a sense of.. freedom.

That's why I love Navegar.
post #2 of 28
Love it also.
post #3 of 28
I could respond by saying all the reasons you listed above are why it's not talked about more, because somewhat challenging scents are often talked about less, because it's kind of an oddball fragrance and that's not appealing to a lot of people, and such, but I know that wasn't really your purpose for posting this More to bring light to it.

So looks like I'll have to try it with this in mind, thanks for the recommendation.
post #4 of 28
doubel
post #5 of 28
Here is a reviw I wrote about it a few years back...time flies. Amyways, this scent had me until the last bit of it.

http://www.basenotes.net/threads/222...=1#post1424037

Navegar--Left Wrist. Not Fresh but a peppery/woody aquatic. Hits me with woods/pepper and soft melon type note to start. Strange in a way but pleasant. After about 5 minutes I get a tiny, tiny hint of tea. As we hit the 30 minute mark or so I get a woody, salty and wonderful marine scent. If you like visulaization this reminds me of going to a beachhouse that is done up in the old wooden and beach motifs and you get that plank/woody smell from the furniture and wooden sailors on the coffee table while the ocean is in the background. I like it alot so far.............update to add that the cedar is making its way in and it gives it even more of a feel of the above beachhouse.....hour in and it is starting to become really low key and the wood has become a little more of an older beachhouse smell...still very good....................This scent almost had me but it started to lose steam and the full drydown almost had a musty, older wood take to it..one with some water damage and some pee on the carpet(musty). I still like this scent but I wish it had stayed one step back.
post #6 of 28
Thread Starter 
I notice a lot of people get musty woods from guaiacwood notes - I bet that's the culprit. It's also likely what is providing the tea note you picked up on (I'm going to sniff for that the next time I wear it. I actually get more notes than I mentioned - I get a sort of cookie-like ginger and hints of white rum, amongst other things, but didn't want to be overly loquacious with my OP).

I happen to love guaiacwood, even when it's a bit musty (especially noticeable in L'Artisan's Iris Pallida!), but can definitely understand why some others don't.
post #7 of 28



Uploaded with ImageShack.us

sorry couldn't resist...
I happen to really like Navegar
LL
post #8 of 28
Why didn't you post this last night... I probably would've blind bought it during the Fragrancenet L'Artisan Sale of 2012.

Terrific review - I really want to try this now.
post #9 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by scent View Post


Nicely done, and hilarious
post #10 of 28
Y U No deal with it?
post #11 of 28
I kid! I kid!
post #12 of 28
I was intrigued by Navegar some months ago, but everywhere I looked there was a mention of horribly poor longevity. For me, case closed.
post #13 of 28
I find Navegar pretty evocative, too. Not aquatic in its true sense though, instead I get a bit of a mineral quality from it. I can almost picture a large piece of rock, a limestone perhaps, scorched by intense sunlight, that just got hit by the water. A sense of freedom - yes. A minimalist piece of art and yet compelling in its simplicity.
post #14 of 28
Navegar is a geat fragrance! I am happy to have a bottle. Did I hear L' Artisan is planning to discontinue it?? It may already be gone
post #15 of 28
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzlepuff View Post

Navegar is a geat fragrance! I am happy to have a bottle. Did I hear L' Artisan is planning to discontinue it?? It may already be gone

It definitely got the axe, along with Tea for Two and some others. It's not on the L'Artisan website anymore, either.
post #16 of 28
Absolutely hate this one. Blech...
post #17 of 28
I'm not into "evocation" but instead I guess I'm more of a "materialist" frag enthusiast. Peppery/woody has little appeal to me, so I never had enough interest to try and obtain a sample.
post #18 of 28
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post

Absolutely hate this one. Blech...

But... *Y* u no love?
post #19 of 28
The combination, you so eloquently described above, as watery, peppery and woody just turned my stomach. I am pretty sure that Secretions Magnifiques is to blame for this - ever since I almost gagged on that one, a realistic water note can easily conjure up flashbacks of that 'trauma'. Seriously.
post #20 of 28
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post

The combination, you so eloquently described above, as watery, peppery and woody just turned my stomach. I am pretty sure that Secretions Magnifiques is to blame for this - ever since I almost gagged on that one, a realistic water note can easily conjure up flashbacks of that 'trauma'. Seriously.

Hmm, I've never heard it compared to SM but then, I know what you mean about the SM flashbacks and how they can ruin a scent. I've picked up SM notes in a number of scents: Reflection Man, Harrods for Him, Skarb, etc.

Thankfully I've come around to SM and no longer find the flashbacks to be trauma inducing, but I definitely know that feeling and can empathize. Next time I wear Navegar I'm going to have to try and sniff out any links to SM. I'm sure they're there and I've just missed them. Thanks Mike!
post #21 of 28
My reason for not loving it is that I haven't smelled it...
post #22 of 28
Navegar hit the market in '98 the same year as Cartier Declaration. Both were ahead of the curve in the transparent woods revolution (iso e super based) that was to become so noticeable thereafter. Victoria at Bois de Jasmin gives Navegar 4 out of 5 stars - I agree with her positives of it. This is my third bottle and I've never regretted having it around. It is subtle in style with soft transitions among notes which are: red pepper, ginger, lime, absolute rum, black pepper, incense, star anise, juniper, cedar wood, guaiac wood.It is a soft but intriguing and mysterious transparent woods.

Giacobetti also created another favorite called Andree Putman Preparation Parfumee (made in '01) that is very similar in style and tone to Navegar - I like it as much or more than Navegar. Olivia Giacobetti authored more L' Artisan fragrances than any other perfumer having created 18 various scents in all - but Navegar was her first one for L' Artisan and its success jump started her career. I kind of agree with the criticism of the sour note that guaiac wood plays in this scent. Guaiac is a very soft wood but it does have a somber, receptive, bitter shadow of a tone it if it is not supported by bolder base notes.

Navegar is definitely worth a try and I believe those who like transparent but subtle pepper fragrances will like as much as I do.
post #23 of 28
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzlepuff View Post

Navegar hit the market in '98 the same year as Cartier Declaration. Both were ahead of the curve in the transparent woods revolution (iso e super based) that was to become so noticeable thereafter. Victoria at Bois de Jasmin gives Navegar 4 out of 5 stars - I agree with her positives of it. This is my third bottle and I've never regretted having it around. It is subtle in style with soft transitions among notes which are: red pepper, ginger, lime, absolute rum, black pepper, incense, star anise, juniper, cedar wood, guaiac wood.It is a soft but intriguing and mysterious transparent woods.

Giacobetti also created another favorite called Andree Putman Preparation Parfumee (made in '01) that is very similar in style and tone to Navegar - I like it as much or more than Navegar. Olivia Giacobetti authored more L' Artisan fragrances than any other perfumer having created 18 various scents in all - but Navegar was her first one for L' Artisan and its success jump started her career. I kind of agree with the criticism of the sour note that guaiac wood plays in this scent. Guaiac is a very soft wood but it does have a somber, receptive, bitter shadow of a tone it if it is not supported by bolder base notes.

Navegar is definitely worth a try and I believe those who like transparent but subtle pepper fragrances will like as much as I do.

An excellent description of Navegar. I've heard Preparation Parfumee compared to Navegar before, and I think I'll have to sample this next time I place an order.

And yes, I think there is probably a fair dose of iso e super in Navegar. It smells somewhat like a more tame version of Escentric 01, with its limey, incensey woodiness.
post #24 of 28
With your review you made people curious now For me, unfortunately, it is nothing special. No feelings of sailing on the ocean to me.
post #25 of 28
i have tested navegar yesterday again at their boutique in covent garden when taking advantage of the sale they're running now and have come around 180% to my original impression and critique last year, have bought dzongkha and passage l'enfer and decided to once more try navegar and sprayed it on my wrist. to my surprise, it was a lot more enjoyable and proeminent than when i've tried last year.
i am convinced that it has to do a lot with the weather also, last year when i've tried it, i believe, in november or december, it was cold, wet and rainy and it disappeared from my skin in under half an hour. yesterday when i've tried it, it was a very nice, bright, sunny and warm day of about 22C. will go later today to get it, cannot beat the price either at £35 for 100ml bottle.
post #26 of 28
BN member was kind enough to offer to send me a sample of Navegar. Can't wait to try it.

I'm genuinely upset that I missed out on it during the fragrancenet sale because it sounds like it would have been a great blind buy
post #27 of 28
The smell reminds me of the sailing club I go in the summer and therefor I love it!
post #28 of 28
L'Navegar proves there may be lesser proof in marketing . What appears in block as a rich no holds barred scent that evokes images of hot coffee flasks and lambskin leather jackets in retro flying planes , could not be further from the truth. What one gets instead is a thin wispy demure scent more at home in the unisex counter of the duty free.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: MFD Archive
Basenotes › Basenotes Forums › Fragrance Discussion › Male Fragrance Discussion › MFD Archive › Navegar: Y u No love?