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7/3/12 at 6:21pm
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Fleurine, this man you speak of sounds divine - I have an imagine of him in my imagination now, you've described him so well. Can't wait to hear more of this - dream state -
lMdM, wonderful memories you write of - what an incredible childhood you must have had. To me, and to some of the others here, perhaps - it is so "other worldly", and you grew up in it and with it. It is fascinating! ( I loved hearing about the pet pig, they are adorable, I've seen a few of the pot-bellied pigs that never do get very big at all, I'm not quite certain I'd want one but they are cute and affectionate... )
lMdM, wonderful memories you write of - what an incredible childhood you must have had. To me, and to some of the others here, perhaps - it is so "other worldly", and you grew up in it and with it. It is fascinating! ( I loved hearing about the pet pig, they are adorable, I've seen a few of the pot-bellied pigs that never do get very big at all, I'm not quite certain I'd want one but they are cute and affectionate... )
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7/3/12 at 7:23pm
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oh think I wrote it over on the other page... post #300
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That trembling emotion at drawing your blood, Fleurine. Reading that made the blood rise to my own face. It's strange how we never recognize the one who is going to break our heart over and over...it might be someone we don't notice in the beginning, or who seems a little off putting in some way...there may be something odd about the person...but it turns out to be the one who breaks our heart. We should recognize thst person right from the start, but it is often the one we resist at first and feel ambivalent about.
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Ugh! Fleurine! Drawing Blood! and they say I'm a vampire! Well, I suppose, as stated below, "a chacun son gout," in this instance I can not suggest it's "mauvais" or "bon," as "gout" is such an arbitrary thing: In French we say:
Les Gouts et les Couleurs ne se discutent pas.
Which isn't to say that we'll not spend hours dissecting them. I'm afraid the mere thought of blood makes me uneasy, especially when it comes to getting a blood test, which chore I detest, and, for years, filled me with such horror that I would have to take at least 5ml of valium 45 minutes before enduring the process: You medical folk have such a cavalier attitude to such things. My sister is a doctor and she's the same: Spending her days in an hospital is her life. Me, I've merely to see one and I cringe. Ingami still holds the scarlet red ribbon of awesomeness for her hazy tale of lust, which reminds me of some of the cult films of the late 60's/early 70's: Very, very erotic in an extremely palatable way: Not at all outlandish or strange. I wonder how the twenty-somethings manage eroticism, born and raised in an era of violence and pulp sexuality? I recently saw this DELIGHTFUL film: (i may have mentioned it) Wes Anderssen's "Moonrise Kingdom." I LOVED this film. Interestingly, the intrigue takes place in 1965, and the plot revolves around a very torrid love affair between two children who run away. This being 1965, the girl brings her battery operated suitcase style record player, and a Francoise Hardy LP. I was trying to explain this bit of very understandable trivia to the (younger) friend with whom I saw the movie, who joked repeatedly about the fact that, having run away, with all worldly possessions in a satchel, the young girl brings her 5 favourite books, a record player, an LP, some make up, and that's about it. If I were running away at that age, (the boy seems to be about 10 and the girl, perhaps 11) it would have been the early 70's: I *know* I would have brought "Captain Fantastic" by Elton John, and my hard bound "The Annotated Alice," which book was studied so fervently by me as a young lad, that I can still recite whole chapters by heart from both "Alice" books. Just as my salacious sex post above has for only excuse "it was the 80's!" in the 70's, this sort of "running away gear," assuming the runners are children, makes perfect sense to me, as, then, that's just the way things were: I suppose, in reference to Ingami's observations above, that I am most lucky to have been a child at all, as, these days, by 9, the level of sophistication inherent in children is astounding: No little book will be treasured. No LP. Viewing history backwards, I can only imagine such charming simplicity of character was even more the norm: Being a child in the 60's, that must indeed have been fun: But, you know, this film: It brings its own brand of heady sophistication to its children, to wit, the fact that it was a Francoise Hardy LP speaks volumes. I recommend all readers run screaming to the nearest cinema and see this film. It is SUCH a delight: One of the best I've seen in years. When I left the cinema, I thought: "Finally! I actually saw a film where, after viewing it, I didn't exit the theatre scarred." Not only was I not scarred, I was elated, and this spell lasted many days. Here, readers, is very, very good piece of work. Would we, though, expect anything less from Wes Anderssen?
Les Gouts et les Couleurs ne se discutent pas.
Which isn't to say that we'll not spend hours dissecting them. I'm afraid the mere thought of blood makes me uneasy, especially when it comes to getting a blood test, which chore I detest, and, for years, filled me with such horror that I would have to take at least 5ml of valium 45 minutes before enduring the process: You medical folk have such a cavalier attitude to such things. My sister is a doctor and she's the same: Spending her days in an hospital is her life. Me, I've merely to see one and I cringe. Ingami still holds the scarlet red ribbon of awesomeness for her hazy tale of lust, which reminds me of some of the cult films of the late 60's/early 70's: Very, very erotic in an extremely palatable way: Not at all outlandish or strange. I wonder how the twenty-somethings manage eroticism, born and raised in an era of violence and pulp sexuality? I recently saw this DELIGHTFUL film: (i may have mentioned it) Wes Anderssen's "Moonrise Kingdom." I LOVED this film. Interestingly, the intrigue takes place in 1965, and the plot revolves around a very torrid love affair between two children who run away. This being 1965, the girl brings her battery operated suitcase style record player, and a Francoise Hardy LP. I was trying to explain this bit of very understandable trivia to the (younger) friend with whom I saw the movie, who joked repeatedly about the fact that, having run away, with all worldly possessions in a satchel, the young girl brings her 5 favourite books, a record player, an LP, some make up, and that's about it. If I were running away at that age, (the boy seems to be about 10 and the girl, perhaps 11) it would have been the early 70's: I *know* I would have brought "Captain Fantastic" by Elton John, and my hard bound "The Annotated Alice," which book was studied so fervently by me as a young lad, that I can still recite whole chapters by heart from both "Alice" books. Just as my salacious sex post above has for only excuse "it was the 80's!" in the 70's, this sort of "running away gear," assuming the runners are children, makes perfect sense to me, as, then, that's just the way things were: I suppose, in reference to Ingami's observations above, that I am most lucky to have been a child at all, as, these days, by 9, the level of sophistication inherent in children is astounding: No little book will be treasured. No LP. Viewing history backwards, I can only imagine such charming simplicity of character was even more the norm: Being a child in the 60's, that must indeed have been fun: But, you know, this film: It brings its own brand of heady sophistication to its children, to wit, the fact that it was a Francoise Hardy LP speaks volumes. I recommend all readers run screaming to the nearest cinema and see this film. It is SUCH a delight: One of the best I've seen in years. When I left the cinema, I thought: "Finally! I actually saw a film where, after viewing it, I didn't exit the theatre scarred." Not only was I not scarred, I was elated, and this spell lasted many days. Here, readers, is very, very good piece of work. Would we, though, expect anything less from Wes Anderssen?
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7/4/12 at 2:57pm
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Naturally, Fleurine draws it out: What term was it employed by our National Hero, our Supreme, sweet-smelling Gentleman in Residence, now noticeably absent, for reasons we all understand and do not question, yes, what precisely was that term? was it....pr....mmmmm. I'm not sure: It did begin with a P.

Naturally, Fleurine draws it out: What term was it employed by our National Hero, our Supreme, sweet-smelling Gentleman in Residence, now noticeably absent, for reasons we all understand and do not question, yes, what precisely was that term? was it....pr....mmmmm. I'm not sure: It did begin with a P.
It must have been prissy or something like that...
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It's strange how we never recognize the one who is going to break our heart over and over...it might be someone we don't notice in the beginning, or who seems a little off putting in some way...there may be something odd about the person...but it turns out to be the one who breaks our heart. We should recognize thst person right from the start, but it is often the one we resist at first and feel ambivalent about.

It's strange how we never recognize the one who is going to break our heart over and over...it might be someone we don't notice in the beginning, or who seems a little off putting in some way...there may be something odd about the person...but it turns out to be the one who breaks our heart. We should recognize thst person right from the start, but it is often the one we resist at first and feel ambivalent about.
So true. I remember, though, when I first saw him I was afraid of him. Hard to describe why exactly. Anyway, after having retold that long drawn out thing, I am now melancholy about him all over again.
But here's my new quandry...Is it true, you know, when they say men like to pursue things? In fact, that they enjoy pursuing them more than they do actually obtaining them? Because, if so, this would explain so perfectly the phenomenon of Sillage in that it gives men (or women) a scent trail to chase...something even more seductive because it is neither tangible nor intangible...
This guy pursued me for months, only to promptly break my heart...grrrrr...enough about him now...
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OMG!!!!!!!
Fleurine! what was that ^^^^^? SUCH a BREATHTAKING piece of work, on so many levels: My face is now all covered in tears from having watched it: I know nothing about it, have not heard of any of the details that define it: I just know--I love all of it---there is nothing about that film I don't find intoxicatingly beautiful. I relate to it in the most profound way: The visual content, as well as the score. I often feel as though I very rightfully should have joined a circus. I have been taunted enough times, especially in my youth, with precisely this directive. I wonder: Why didn't I? Already, via some unexplianed coincidence unplanned by me, I dress like the performers in that video, making a steady habit of knee breeches, frock coats, stripes, elaborate facial hair and body decoration: It all just happened, you know: Like when I went to that party and all it took was a tin of silver hair spray and I was in historic costume, fully accurate, except every single piece of clothing I wore was just already hanging in my wardrobe, in steady rotation: If you could have seen my posse all nodding to the unbelieving strangers who came to admire the results, saying in unison: No. It's true. He just dresses that way. (I love knee breeches: The seed of them was planted of course by Mick Fleetwood, (Rumours cover) but as soon as I could have a pair run up I did: I now have 16 pairs--and I've probably worn out as many over the years--I love them. They just suit me.) I love frock coats and "Sargent Pepper's" jackets with braids. Really, all I *need* is the clown make up and I'm already there. How this happened is anyone's guess. I think, it had to do with the visit I had from another plane: I may have mentioned this somewhere on this site, that, in 1989 I had a four hour time lapse intervention that in "earth time" felt like a nano second, and I was perfectly awake, reading, and on no substance whatsoever, and had thus far in my life never had any substance so it could not have been a chemical "flash back," and, besides, the experience was far too replete with knowledge and epiphanies to be anything other than it was: Something that happens, or happened at least to me, that has no name, and fills you with insight about the various planes of existence and how they are very staunchly separate and do not often mingle, yet not for as much are they not there, as was proven by this "visit," as I have come to call it, as something did come to take me. How to describe it is quite impossible, as our language, being Earthly, is not equipped. One of the infinite bits of insight I took away from it was this: We build our future planes with the loves of this one. That is: What we love will be an integral part of what we face when we leave this plane, and that all is in order on this one, and all others: It just seems chaotic to us because we can not see the sense of anything as it relates to the future, only the past as it is documented, but that the future, too, might be documented, it just isn't in the scheme of things on this plane that it should be. I *LOVE* Peter Greenaway: Put me in front of, say, Prosperro's Books, and I will be engaged for as many hours as you might care to press repeat. I *LOVE* anything that has to do with the Courts of Louis XV and Louis XVI (except the horrible miscarriage and unspeakable tragedy of the Revolution, which, I do maintain, was a mistake, and should have never happened: had it been avoided, I *TRULY* believe the world would be so vastly different today, that it would be unrecognizable to us: It would appear utopian.) I *LOVE* anything that brings a sense of wonder, like, for example, that video ^^^^ which is a kind of illustration of "the LOVES of my life." Following the logic of this "visit," my future planes will encompass all of these things, as, on this one, I LOVED them. The key here, you see, is LOVE. What, and who, you LOVE, and with what ardor, is of primordial importance to us here on Earth, as with our love, we construct our future, that is, the one we face when we leave ourselves, and our bodies behind: Bodies, Ah! the bit about bodies! It was revealed to me that Bodies....are like clothes....when we leave them, it is as if we leave behind a John Galliano bias cut beaded frock, or something: While we might miss them, we understand immediately that a body is merely a casement, and nothing more. (I'm sure I could write a book on this visit: I'm certain I never will as I prefer romances to this sort of writing) Another detail: Our LOVES are not our own doing: they are programmed into us--so that we spend our lives gathering them about us, or meditating on them. Our Loves our vestiges of past planes where we were: Not lives--just places where we happened to be--and by "we" I don't mean ourselves as we know each other now--I mean something else that has no name, but makes sublime sense: This process goes on forever, and, has been going on forever: In essence, we are always only ever in the middle of forever.
Fleurine! what was that ^^^^^? SUCH a BREATHTAKING piece of work, on so many levels: My face is now all covered in tears from having watched it: I know nothing about it, have not heard of any of the details that define it: I just know--I love all of it---there is nothing about that film I don't find intoxicatingly beautiful. I relate to it in the most profound way: The visual content, as well as the score. I often feel as though I very rightfully should have joined a circus. I have been taunted enough times, especially in my youth, with precisely this directive. I wonder: Why didn't I? Already, via some unexplianed coincidence unplanned by me, I dress like the performers in that video, making a steady habit of knee breeches, frock coats, stripes, elaborate facial hair and body decoration: It all just happened, you know: Like when I went to that party and all it took was a tin of silver hair spray and I was in historic costume, fully accurate, except every single piece of clothing I wore was just already hanging in my wardrobe, in steady rotation: If you could have seen my posse all nodding to the unbelieving strangers who came to admire the results, saying in unison: No. It's true. He just dresses that way. (I love knee breeches: The seed of them was planted of course by Mick Fleetwood, (Rumours cover) but as soon as I could have a pair run up I did: I now have 16 pairs--and I've probably worn out as many over the years--I love them. They just suit me.) I love frock coats and "Sargent Pepper's" jackets with braids. Really, all I *need* is the clown make up and I'm already there. How this happened is anyone's guess. I think, it had to do with the visit I had from another plane: I may have mentioned this somewhere on this site, that, in 1989 I had a four hour time lapse intervention that in "earth time" felt like a nano second, and I was perfectly awake, reading, and on no substance whatsoever, and had thus far in my life never had any substance so it could not have been a chemical "flash back," and, besides, the experience was far too replete with knowledge and epiphanies to be anything other than it was: Something that happens, or happened at least to me, that has no name, and fills you with insight about the various planes of existence and how they are very staunchly separate and do not often mingle, yet not for as much are they not there, as was proven by this "visit," as I have come to call it, as something did come to take me. How to describe it is quite impossible, as our language, being Earthly, is not equipped. One of the infinite bits of insight I took away from it was this: We build our future planes with the loves of this one. That is: What we love will be an integral part of what we face when we leave this plane, and that all is in order on this one, and all others: It just seems chaotic to us because we can not see the sense of anything as it relates to the future, only the past as it is documented, but that the future, too, might be documented, it just isn't in the scheme of things on this plane that it should be. I *LOVE* Peter Greenaway: Put me in front of, say, Prosperro's Books, and I will be engaged for as many hours as you might care to press repeat. I *LOVE* anything that has to do with the Courts of Louis XV and Louis XVI (except the horrible miscarriage and unspeakable tragedy of the Revolution, which, I do maintain, was a mistake, and should have never happened: had it been avoided, I *TRULY* believe the world would be so vastly different today, that it would be unrecognizable to us: It would appear utopian.) I *LOVE* anything that brings a sense of wonder, like, for example, that video ^^^^ which is a kind of illustration of "the LOVES of my life." Following the logic of this "visit," my future planes will encompass all of these things, as, on this one, I LOVED them. The key here, you see, is LOVE. What, and who, you LOVE, and with what ardor, is of primordial importance to us here on Earth, as with our love, we construct our future, that is, the one we face when we leave ourselves, and our bodies behind: Bodies, Ah! the bit about bodies! It was revealed to me that Bodies....are like clothes....when we leave them, it is as if we leave behind a John Galliano bias cut beaded frock, or something: While we might miss them, we understand immediately that a body is merely a casement, and nothing more. (I'm sure I could write a book on this visit: I'm certain I never will as I prefer romances to this sort of writing) Another detail: Our LOVES are not our own doing: they are programmed into us--so that we spend our lives gathering them about us, or meditating on them. Our Loves our vestiges of past planes where we were: Not lives--just places where we happened to be--and by "we" I don't mean ourselves as we know each other now--I mean something else that has no name, but makes sublime sense: This process goes on forever, and, has been going on forever: In essence, we are always only ever in the middle of forever.
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7/4/12 at 5:16pm
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^^^^MdM, this is the most profound, the most truthful, the most vulnerable and human and lovely and wondrous post I've ever read from you or any Basenoter. You say you won't write about this, but I think you should.
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Well, I think you may be on to something there, Fleurine. Here is a quote from Anomie et ivoire's signature:
Love is not vain because it is frustrated, but because it is fulfilled. The people we love turn to ashes when we posess them.--Proust
It's so true, isn't it? There can be no possession, and desire is...tempation and an illusion. Love is freedom, but desire is the opposite of freedom, isn't it? Am I mixed up?
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But here's my new quandry...Is it true, you know, when they say men like to pursue things? In fact, that they enjoy pursuing them more than they do actually obtaining them? Because, if so, this would explain so perfectly the phenomenon of Sillage in that it gives men (or women) a scent trail to chase...something even more seductive because it is neither tangible nor intangible...

But here's my new quandry...Is it true, you know, when they say men like to pursue things? In fact, that they enjoy pursuing them more than they do actually obtaining them? Because, if so, this would explain so perfectly the phenomenon of Sillage in that it gives men (or women) a scent trail to chase...something even more seductive because it is neither tangible nor intangible...
Well, I think you may be on to something there, Fleurine. Here is a quote from Anomie et ivoire's signature:
Love is not vain because it is frustrated, but because it is fulfilled. The people we love turn to ashes when we posess them.--Proust
It's so true, isn't it? There can be no possession, and desire is...tempation and an illusion. Love is freedom, but desire is the opposite of freedom, isn't it? Am I mixed up?
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Lilybelle, it is true, there can be no possession. And that desire to possess can drive one mad I would think. But to really love is to feel at peace. And...yes MdM, what a beautiful post. And you should write more on your wondrous experience. Love really is everything, isn't it?
Fleurine, I'm going to watch the "The Irrepressibles" again. You come up with the most amazing things!
Fleurine, I'm going to watch the "The Irrepressibles" again. You come up with the most amazing things!
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Thank you, to all of you for your kind words: As much as I'd like to, I can not watch "The Irrepressibles" again: Just thinking about it and my face is again wet with tears. This shook me up....in such a very odd way....I hadn't heard four bars of it that already I was glassy eyed: By the end of it I was a shaking mess. It seems.....to me.....to be filled with something: Something I daren't examine too closely, or, if I do, I must need proceed with caution, as having been spellbound before it I was....as possessed. I wanted to press "pause," but couldn't. Detail: I'm not even drinking just now. I've been writing all day, and my only breaks have been to examine BN, which is meant to go down any minute, according to the warning above. The break I took to watch the video, lasted at least an hour, as, having seen it, I could do nothing but lay down and put a perfumed handkerchief to my eyes (Eau du Coq). Even now, I'm still in a bit of a state: I'm afraid to watch it again. So: Fleurine--pray--what is it? Who are they? Is it a band? What's the "must have" album if it is? Where are they from? go on now: Get your clip board out and educate us........
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Is it gauche to - without interrupting the flow of this thread - simply say that it exceeds even its original intent? Sex, the Sillage - and So Much More.
Sometimes these things must happen of their own accord. They happen, but they simply can't be rushed.
Sometimes these things must happen of their own accord. They happen, but they simply can't be rushed.

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I watched it again. Then I had to sit and sop up my eyes, which still cannot see straight and burn. We have buttons. All of us. Readers, you may be scratching your heads wondering why it is that I would be so deeply affected by something such as that, but then, I might ask the same question of you: How, for instance, would any of you waste 45 minutes of your life watching that New Jersey show? You want to laugh. Perhaps I want to cry. Who knows. We have buttons, and that short piece of work pushes so many of mine that I can't even consider watching it again: It's just too draining for me. We....have....certain universes where we live, and others where we dream, and some of us mix these two: Anybody who knows me will tell you I have no problem living in this latter mixed media mode, even making a spectacle of it: "The Visit," in 1989, it taught me that I should....embrace.....embrace all of these things for which up until then I only secretly longed, and hid, out of fear: Fear of being ridiculed. So, on that day, which, interestingly, tomorrow might be the anniversary, as it happened on the 5th or 6th of July, I was "told:" You're already being ridiculed. You've always been ridiculed. You're meant to be ridiculed. It's part of who you are to be ridiculed. It's in the scheme of things that you should be ridiculed. Fear is useless. When I came to, or shall i say, when I "blinked," because in real time it felt like a blink, except that by clock time it erased four hours, I knew this, and nobody could talk me out of it: I knew other things as well--and nobody can talk me out of them. The things I learned, nobody can impact them: No book, no person's opinions, no law, nothing: They are indelible. Some, I can not mention without provoking passions: By example--my theories regarding the "Revolutions" of the XVIIIe Centuries. These were errant. Both the American and the French. Neither should have occurred. Just don't go questioning me on this: But do please ridicule me. I'm used to it. So, our buttons: This video pushes, among countless others, my all important "Visual Identity Button." I feel as though I am witnessing here my Family Reunion of Souls, as these are my people. Somehow--OK I'm going into hysterics again now--somehow, these....these people are my race. I "am" them. I am *both* the women and the men--and if there were an army of leMdM's, aka, me, it would look like this--and it would feel like this: The strange band of walking tragedies, with painted smiles on, doing....tricks.....to amaze and entertain......all the while being broken....but, somehow, decorative. I mentioned how I juggle? How....I make a habit of juggling socialites' precious jewel encrusted lieber bags on dance floors at majestic openings and parties? They hate dancing with them--I love juggling with them--I've never dropped one--it's the danger--the spectacle--the thrill of it: The photos that come out in the press: People say "WHAT ARE YOU JUGGLING?" usually you can't tell because I'm juggling while dancing--so the pictures are always all a-blur. Everything about me is moving when I dance--the visit--it examined this as well: I came out knowing how to break into the dance place where any body movement is possible and doesn't hurt. (secret: If you truly believe it's there, you can find your way in) In the video, we have The Whole Thing: There isn't anything in there I can't speak to. "The Forgotten Circus." Don't let's start. Dr. Perfumistico, nothing you ever say or do is gauche. No questioning me on that either.
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7/4/12 at 8:58pm
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No, it's not gauche^^^
Le MdM, you know about as much as I do about In This Shirt by the Irrepresibles.
I was introduced to the song in a pole dance class when someone brought it in to dance to...and we all loved it and asked what it was, she said someone else had danced to it before her.
It seems to have circulated around dance communities...I know nothing about either the band, or the video.
Except that I love it...
There are 2 male pole dancers in that video, oddly enough.
Basenotes is about to crash now?
Le MdM, you know about as much as I do about In This Shirt by the Irrepresibles.
I was introduced to the song in a pole dance class when someone brought it in to dance to...and we all loved it and asked what it was, she said someone else had danced to it before her.
It seems to have circulated around dance communities...I know nothing about either the band, or the video.
Except that I love it...
There are 2 male pole dancers in that video, oddly enough.
Basenotes is about to crash now?
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I found this on e-bay, where the CD can be purchased: there is also a DVD of videos, whence the masterpiece above. It seems as though they are from Birmingham, England.
RE: Their one and only CD: "MIRROR MIRROR"
2010 debut album. Led by composer and artist Jamie McDermott, The Irrepressibles are a 10-piece 'performance orchestra' that, through the power of their instruments, can transport and transfix, break moulds and collide worlds. Fusing European orchestration with Pop melodies and soaring cathartic vocals, Mirror Mirror is a theatrical, playful, and emotionally passionate album. From the dramatic opener 'My Friend Jo' to the galloping rhythms of 'Anvil'; from the yearning echoes of 'Forget The Past' through to the intensely intimate 'In This Shirt', Mirror Mirror is a beautifully constructed sonic exploration depicting Jamie McDermott's confessional stories of love, anger, lust and loss with a journey through The Irrepressibles' mystical and theatrical world. 12 tracks. V2.
They seem to do "performance art" concerts, as all of their "google images" are highly stylized, including the live shots of their performances, which include trapeze, pole dances and all of the beautiful things depicted in the video. I had thought at first it was "Antony and The Johnsons" (which band gives me the creeps) as Jamie McDermott's voice sounds a bit like the lead singer from this band. It seems that they are a kind of mix between pop music and Cirque du Soleil. They cite Kate Bush (surprise, surprise) as a major influence, and use mostly classical orchestral arrangements in their music, which seems very string heavy. Judging from the images I studied, the emotional content of their universe seems to verge slightly toward the homo-erotic. They clearly are not very well known in America as of yet--most of the resources where the CD might be bought come from the UK, Australia, and Germany.
RE: Their one and only CD: "MIRROR MIRROR"
2010 debut album. Led by composer and artist Jamie McDermott, The Irrepressibles are a 10-piece 'performance orchestra' that, through the power of their instruments, can transport and transfix, break moulds and collide worlds. Fusing European orchestration with Pop melodies and soaring cathartic vocals, Mirror Mirror is a theatrical, playful, and emotionally passionate album. From the dramatic opener 'My Friend Jo' to the galloping rhythms of 'Anvil'; from the yearning echoes of 'Forget The Past' through to the intensely intimate 'In This Shirt', Mirror Mirror is a beautifully constructed sonic exploration depicting Jamie McDermott's confessional stories of love, anger, lust and loss with a journey through The Irrepressibles' mystical and theatrical world. 12 tracks. V2.
They seem to do "performance art" concerts, as all of their "google images" are highly stylized, including the live shots of their performances, which include trapeze, pole dances and all of the beautiful things depicted in the video. I had thought at first it was "Antony and The Johnsons" (which band gives me the creeps) as Jamie McDermott's voice sounds a bit like the lead singer from this band. It seems that they are a kind of mix between pop music and Cirque du Soleil. They cite Kate Bush (surprise, surprise) as a major influence, and use mostly classical orchestral arrangements in their music, which seems very string heavy. Judging from the images I studied, the emotional content of their universe seems to verge slightly toward the homo-erotic. They clearly are not very well known in America as of yet--most of the resources where the CD might be bought come from the UK, Australia, and Germany.
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We....have....certain universes where we live, and others where we dream, and some of us mix these two: Anybody who knows me will tell you I have no problem living in this latter mixed media mode, even making a spectacle of it: "The Visit," in 1989, it taught me that I should....embrace.....embrace all of these things for which up until then I only secretly longed, and hid, out of fear: Fear of being ridiculed. So, on that day, which, interestingly, tomorrow might be the anniversary, as it happened on the 5th or 6th of July, I was "told:" You're already being ridiculed. You've always been ridiculed. You're meant to be ridiculed. It's part of who you are to be ridiculed. It's in the scheme of things that you should be ridiculed. Fear is useless. When I came to, or shall i say, when I "blinked," because in real time it felt like a blink, except that by clock time it erased four hours, I knew this, and nobody could talk me out of it: I knew other things as well--and nobody can talk me out of them. The things I learned, nobody can impact them: No book, no person's opinions, no law, nothing: They are indelible. Some, I can not mention without provoking passions: By example--my theories regarding the "Revolutions" of the XVIIIe Centuries. These were errant. Both the American and the French. Neither should have occurred. Just don't go questioning me on this: But do please ridicule me. I'm used to it.
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We....have....certain universes where we live, and others where we dream, and some of us mix these two: Anybody who knows me will tell you I have no problem living in this latter mixed media mode, even making a spectacle of it: "The Visit," in 1989, it taught me that I should....embrace.....embrace all of these things for which up until then I only secretly longed, and hid, out of fear: Fear of being ridiculed. So, on that day, which, interestingly, tomorrow might be the anniversary, as it happened on the 5th or 6th of July, I was "told:" You're already being ridiculed. You've always been ridiculed. You're meant to be ridiculed. It's part of who you are to be ridiculed. It's in the scheme of things that you should be ridiculed. Fear is useless. When I came to, or shall i say, when I "blinked," because in real time it felt like a blink, except that by clock time it erased four hours, I knew this, and nobody could talk me out of it: I knew other things as well--and nobody can talk me out of them. The things I learned, nobody can impact them: No book, no person's opinions, no law, nothing: They are indelible. Some, I can not mention without provoking passions: By example--my theories regarding the "Revolutions" of the XVIIIe Centuries. These were errant. Both the American and the French. Neither should have occurred. Just don't go questioning me on this: But do please ridicule me. I'm used to it.
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It's entirely possible that - beyond merely being a valid explanation of reality - the "multiverse" has properties not entirely evident upon casual observation, but which are "lightly observable" through causal observation (pun intended, even though it just kinda happened). Among those properties could be some informational ones which might be rather surprising, and which could be approached scientifically. To approach these, we really have to be unafraid of pulling off old labels and throwing them away, where we see this to be useful.
Some of it is probably a bit Hari-Seldon-ish (from Asimov's Foundation series). But the basic idea is that history as we see it is merely a path through a kind of information space. As we observe (through our imaginations) alternative universes, they follow paths which are more or less like ours. In fact, one can make reasonable assumptions about these universes and their relative likelihood - and by projection of what we know through science, e.g. physical laws, as well as common sense. In fact, we do this every day just performing even the most rudimentary tasks. To wit, all intelligence is prophesy. We are simply predicting the relative probabilities of different universes. Those which seem causally derivable from ours are most likely, and within those, to various degrees, we seek to predict the most likely still. Ultimately, it is the ability to model these universes through our thoughts that - essentially - gives those universes power in our own.
Interestingly, one can therefore say that these universes have definable influence on our own. Some attract us. Some repel us. Some warn us. Some teach us. Some deceive us. We expect that these universes not only coexist as an ensemble, but that they evolve together.
Are they intelligent? Said the neuron, asking about these reputedly larger collections of neurons called "brains". Let's not take that interesting side journey now. But one has to admit that if the ensemble of universes evolves, then one might speculate that it would follow the evolutionary patterns of other interacting systems, including not just simple competitive forms of evolution, but also more advanced social and cooperative ones.
Thus, it behooves us to take your observation seriously. Most residents of this planet would agree that universes which feature the Nazis are something we might want to warn other universes about. Notice that I did not say "if we could", since I don't want to preclude the possibility that we are already doing so. Similarly, for our own edification, we need to consider alternatives where - say - George III was less crazy, more enlightened, and perhaps even beloved by the American colonists. Are we so sure that America wouldn't have been better off under other scenarios? Some of my ancestors would have certainly thought so. Even at the national level, it's important to "know thyself".
Thus, by criteria which may not be readily apparent, but which could even be arrived at logically or mathematically, it may be true that what you say is exactly correct - that those revolutions should not have happened. It may, in fact, be that they were much like earthquakes (or more analogously, concert stampedes). Viewed in some ways, they seem inevitable. Viewed from different points of view, other aspects may be apparent. Given that we are dealing with an intelligent system, it is entirely possible that these revolutions may have resulted from that system getting critical information too late and not in the right places. Accidents of history, even if preventable, rather than manifest destiny.
Intelligence is clearly emergent. How is not fully understood. I would go so far as to say "poorly understood". The multiverse - likewise. So I would offer that it's worth having a little respect for the dreamtime. At least until we understand it as well as the current experts.
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That was a great post, Red. The concept of emergent intelligence and evolving multiverse systems is fascinating. I can accept the possibility that accidents in history happen. I'd love to know more about how MdM knows this to be so, but we must not ask. I will not ridicule.
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That was a great post, Red. The concept of emergent intelligence and evolving multiverse systems is fascinating. I can accept the possibility that accidents in history happen. I'd love to know more about how MdM knows this to be so, but we must not ask. I will not ridicule.

That was a great post, Red. The concept of emergent intelligence and evolving multiverse systems is fascinating. I can accept the possibility that accidents in history happen. I'd love to know more about how MdM knows this to be so, but we must not ask. I will not ridicule.
Yes, Lilybelle, exactly.
Thank you for that post Red. I have a lot of thinking to do, or perhaps not thinking, just being. I remember Stephen King writing something like ( not quite a direct quote ) " let the boys in the basement do their job ".
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Feeling better today.
Desire might be the opposite of freedom, yet don't most people want others to desire them? Hence the utility of sillage...
Seems sort of sadistic when you think of it that way. Like we want to enslave each or something.
I got so morose after those long posts about the ex-flame, that I called him...and his New York number was disconnected. So I emailed him. And he emailed me back from Mali...He said he would send me a number when he gets back to Switzerland.
I wonder if he still wear Aqua di Gio...
Anyone, won't someone please tell me a story of their pursuit of Sex and the sillage...to get my mind off of all this foolishness...
Desire might be the opposite of freedom, yet don't most people want others to desire them? Hence the utility of sillage...
Seems sort of sadistic when you think of it that way. Like we want to enslave each or something.
I got so morose after those long posts about the ex-flame, that I called him...and his New York number was disconnected. So I emailed him. And he emailed me back from Mali...He said he would send me a number when he gets back to Switzerland.
I wonder if he still wear Aqua di Gio...
Anyone, won't someone please tell me a story of their pursuit of Sex and the sillage...to get my mind off of all this foolishness...
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Why did you contact that man, Fleurine? I mean...I know why you did but I wish for your sake that you hadn't. I suppose it's my turn to tell a sex & sillage tale now, but I can't think of anything from my cobwebby slutty rolodex that has any perfume associations. I can dig up memories I'd rather forget, but I don't feel like doing that. Something good will come to me hopefully, and when it does I will post it. Until then I think I will back off for a while. I said that several posts ago but I must now. 

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It must have been prissy or something like that...
So true. I remember, though, when I first saw him I was afraid of him. Hard to describe why exactly. Anyway, after having retold that long drawn out thing, I am now melancholy about him all over again.
But here's my new quandry...Is it true, you know, when they say men like to pursue things? In fact, that they enjoy pursuing them more than they do actually obtaining them? Because, if so, this would explain so perfectly the phenomenon of Sillage in that it gives men (or women) a scent trail to chase...something even more seductive because it is neither tangible nor intangible...
This guy pursued me for months, only to promptly break my heart...grrrrr...enough about him now...

It must have been prissy or something like that...
So true. I remember, though, when I first saw him I was afraid of him. Hard to describe why exactly. Anyway, after having retold that long drawn out thing, I am now melancholy about him all over again.
But here's my new quandry...Is it true, you know, when they say men like to pursue things? In fact, that they enjoy pursuing them more than they do actually obtaining them? Because, if so, this would explain so perfectly the phenomenon of Sillage in that it gives men (or women) a scent trail to chase...something even more seductive because it is neither tangible nor intangible...
This guy pursued me for months, only to promptly break my heart...grrrrr...enough about him now...
I've been back a few days, but just recovering from the sleep dep, jet lag, and loved-one-deprivement resulting from the sort of trip I've just returned from.
The word was "proper" Fleurine - not at all like prissy in my book. Proper means not revealing your intimate details; prissy means not having intimate details.
Thanks for the video - I was mesmerized by it, watched it all the way through. I followed the link on the youtube page to the artist's web page and ended up at the full 22 minute long film:
http://www.shellylove.co.uk/films/th...tencircus.html
I haven't watched it yet - maybe tonight.
Bravo to you Inga, MdM and Fleurine, for your fantastic stories. All different, all with perfume playing a role -even if only as a solvent.
I can't hope to compete. I think no one could compete with MdM - something tells me that there is always another, even more incredible story in the vault.

Speaking of the vault - I just received my box of treasures from said vault. Thank you MdM - all arrived perfectly safe. And thank you twice for the generous gifts you've added.
Now, how do I open this:

I've never even seen a SL flacon in the old packaging. I can hardly believe that I have this bottle in my hands ... and now I can't even get it open. The damn stopper feels like it's welded in place. What was it? Hot water? Cold water? I don't want to risk damaging it ...
I do have a story that I could share. I will when I have some time to dredge it up. Give me a day or two.
F - when it comes to reconnecting with ex's, I've found that this is always a bad experience except sometimes for the one being contacted. You say he's broken your heart more than once. This guy is your kryptonite. Nothing good can come from this. Put his email in your spam filter and go smell Acqua di Gio on some Jersey Shore cast reject to purge the association.
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Well, I wrote out perhaps the longest post this thread has ever seen, and we all know it has seen some long ones, describing as best i could my "visit," as I do believe that today would be its' 23rd anniversary....would it? 1989?.....replete with the "logic" described labouriously--as it is tremendously difficult to explain in earthly terms, THEN, when I went to colour Dr. Perfumistico's name in hot pink, which I am always wont to do to remind him never to change his avatar, the site froze, and I lost the post. I am trying to keep calm about it. It did take me about 2.5 hours to write. Again: Calm. So pleased that bell jar bottle is now in the hands our National Hero Rubegon. (Try using dish washing gloves--the thick rubber type--grasp the bottle in one hand, and twist the stopper with the other: Don't try anything else before this: It *has* been sealed for....1993.....how many years is that? and in two caves the whole time: At any rate: it's BIZARRE smelling. smells like the Catacombs. Very "cold and dead" type stillness about it: who knows, though--you "run hot." I'm *always* freezing: Could be that you're natural warmth might wake it up. To me, it smells like a corpse drawer in a morgue.) From the hands of Serge Lutens himself to those of Rubegon. Now, there's an appropriate change of hands! (I'm not as fond of the set who holds my "Rose de Nuit" that accompanied this one--I myself devoured the "Ambre Sultan." These three were given to me by SL just before they hit the boutique in Palais Royal, so they are "First Edition.) Ugh!!!!!! I'm *so upset* about losing this post!!!!! I daren't try to re-write it before these macabre warnings ^^^^^ are gone! Note: I won't try to turn Dr. Perfumistico's name hot pink on this one....
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Fleurine, I do like your current pre-occupation with sillage and how you have pieced all of this together in such a scientific way. I'm sure I would never have this sort of thought process: It is very true that the very specific "idea" of sillage might very well play into our natural human tendency to chase things that are fleeting. This is a built in mechanism. We all have it. Dog owners: Just how many times will a dog run after a ball if you throw it? Until they die of exhaustion. Isn't that right? We're the same. We will chase and chase and chase...until....we die of exhaustion, which, ultimately, a good lot of us do: Others die other ways. Part of my "visit," a good part of it, was about dying. Since all of you seem intrigued, I will set the stage in order that I attempt to describe it, which, I'm afraid, is near impossible. However: Here are some of the details. It was exactly 23 years ago that it happened: July 05th. It was 2:45pm. I know it was 2:45pm because I heard a creek. I was reading a book, sitting in a high wing backed chair with a reading lamp adjusted to illuminate the page. All was quiet in the house, and I was alone in it: No dogs. No company. The creek I heard came from one of those tiny little ventilation windows that are often found in walk in wardrobe rooms: They usually measure about 14" high by, perhaps, 10" wide, and have hinged "doors" that open like a cabinet, and lock with a kind of slide-bar closure. Because they are so small, it would be impossible for any intruder to gain access through them, so in the summer months, these are often left open without the slide bar being fastened and locked, which in this instance was the case: A gust of wind hit the small window, which I could see looking through the open door into this wardrobe room, and the window blew open. I glanced at a clock on the wall after I surmised that the creek was merely the window blowing open. 2:45pm. Then, something came through the window: It is impossible to describe what it looked like, as it had no mass as we imagine "something" might have. Identity, though, it had, and it was twain: That is to say, there were two. The "Something" was actually two things. The closest "thing" I have ever seen that would "look" vaguely the way they did would be the twirly fine line of incense smoke that a joss stick emits, where it is stick straight for a piece, then it goes all curly in ringlets, but, in reality, it didn't "look" like anything I can describe: I thought I had something in my eyes, or I was seeing things, or something, so I blinked. When I opened my eyes from the blink, which truly was just a blink, it was 6:45pm, as, again, I looked at the clock on the wall. The "something" was gone, but I was so entirely different that I felt as if I had been infused with the most inexplicable joy--the book--it was on the floor. The thing that "happened" was just this: I was filled with knowledge. This knowledge, there is no possible way to contradict it, as it makes such perfectly round sense: However, there is also no possible way to discuss it without passions of others arising, so most often, If not always, I just keep the knowledge to myself, and draw upon it every day. For intents and purposes, that's what "happened." I remember no single detail at all of what went on during the four hour time lapse: Nothing. As I've said, I just blinked. It only "felt" like a wide awake, purposeful blink, as I was convinced something had glazed over my eyes and was causing me to see this "something," which notion caused me purposefully to blink. I know for 100% certain I did not fall asleep: I have been an insomniac my whole life, since babyhood: I can not, and do not *ever* fall asleep without the aid of a sedative. I have never "dozed." So: That's part one. Back to sillage: Did you ever consider the opposite? As in sillage that could repel? I have because there is something that I simply can not have inside of my nostrils and that is: The smoke of burning sage--the type mystics use to "smudge" atmospheres. I need get only one hint of a molecule of it and I must leave the room. My best friend who committed suicide last year used to tease me about this, as he had witnessed it many times: If there is a bunch of sage lit in my presence, the exhaust that it emits is so repulsive to me that I *can not* breathe it in--and I will immediately leave, rather than discussing it. The irony is that this type of smoke is meant to ward off "Evil Spirits" and that's why Emile would poke fun at me--he often would threaten to light some if I didn't cease and desist whatever it was I might have been doing to annoy him, as, fatally, this would work: It's not that I find it unpleasant: It's that I can't have it in my nose, or near me: The revulsion is so strong that it far surpasses merely wincing or putting a hanky to my nose, or complaining: I just must leave. The very first time I encountered the smoke of burning sage, it was in Paris, and it was apparently being burnt in a very, very evil place. That's about all I can recount concerning sage smoke: I had never smelled it, nor did I know what it was, but, being young and fearless I did tread onto some very distinctly evil territory, and that's where I first got a whiff of it, and, thankfully, I turned back--going no deeper into this place--so in reality--I never *saw* what was being conducted there: I only attempted to walk down the sweating halls to get closer. The smoke....this ungodly stench.....was potent enough for me to make an abrupt about face, and, quite literally, run away.
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Fleurine, I do like your current pre-occupation with sillage and how you have pieced all of this together in such a scientific way. I'm sure I would never have this sort of thought process: It is very true that the very specific "idea" of sillage might very well play into our natural human tendency to chase things that are fleeting. This is a built in mechanism. We all have it. Dog owners: Just how many times will a dog run after a ball if you throw it? Until they die of exhaustion. Isn't that right? We're the same. We will chase and chase and chase...until....we die of exhaustion, which, ultimately, a good lot of us do: Others die other ways. Part of my "visit," a good part of it, was about dying. Since all of you seem intrigued, I will set the stage in order that I attempt to describe it, which, I'm afraid, is near impossible. However: Here are some of the details. It was exactly 23 years ago that it happened: July 05th. It was 2:45pm. I know it was 2:45pm because I heard a creek. I was reading a book, sitting in a high wing backed chair with a reading lamp adjusted to illuminate the page. All was quiet in the house, and I was alone in it: No dogs. No company. The creek I heard came from one of those tiny little ventilation windows that are often found in walk in wardrobe rooms: They usually measure about 14" high by, perhaps, 10" wide, and have hinged "doors" that open like a cabinet, and lock with a kind of slide-bar closure. Because they are so small, it would be impossible for any intruder to gain access through them, so in the summer months, these are often left open without the slide bar being fastened and locked, which in this instance was the case: A gust of wind hit the small window, which I could see looking through the open door into this wardrobe room, and the window blew open. I glanced at a clock on the wall after I surmised that the creek was merely the window blowing open. 2:45pm. Then, something came through the window: It is impossible to describe what it looked like, as it had no mass as we imagine "something" might have. Identity, though, it had, and it was twain: That is to say, there were two. The "Something" was actually two things. The closest "thing" I have ever seen that would "look" vaguely the way they did would be the twirly fine line of incense smoke that a joss stick emits, where it is stick straight for a piece, then it goes all curly in ringlets, but, in reality, it didn't "look" like anything I can describe: I thought I had something in my eyes, or I was seeing things, or something, so I blinked. When I opened my eyes from the blink, which truly was just a blink, it was 6:45pm, as, again, I looked at the clock on the wall. The "something" was gone, but I was so entirely different that I felt as if I had been infused with the most inexplicable joy--the book--it was on the floor. The thing that "happened" was just this: I was filled with knowledge. This knowledge, there is no possible way to contradict it, as it makes such perfectly round sense: However, there is also no possible way to discuss it without passions of others arising, so most often, If not always, I just keep the knowledge to myself, and draw upon it every day. For intents and purposes, that's what "happened." I remember no single detail at all of what went on during the four hour time lapse: Nothing. As I've said, I just blinked. It only "felt" like a wide awake, purposeful blink, as I was convinced something had glazed over my eyes and was causing me to see this "something," which notion caused me purposefully to blink. I know for 100% certain I did not fall asleep: I have been an insomniac my whole life, since babyhood: I can not, and do not *ever* fall asleep without the aid of a sedative. I have never "dozed." So: That's part one. Back to sillage: Did you ever consider the opposite? As in sillage that could repel? I have because there is something that I simply can not have inside of my nostrils and that is: The smoke of burning sage--the type mystics use to "smudge" atmospheres. I need get only one hint of a molecule of it and I must leave the room. My best friend who committed suicide last year used to tease me about this, as he had witnessed it many times: If there is a bunch of sage lit in my presence, the exhaust that it emits is so repulsive to me that I *can not* breathe it in--and I will immediately leave, rather than discussing it. The irony is that this type of smoke is meant to ward off "Evil Spirits" and that's why Emile would poke fun at me--he often would threaten to light some if I didn't cease and desist whatever it was I might have been doing to annoy him, as, fatally, this would work: It's not that I find it unpleasant: It's that I can't have it in my nose, or near me: The revulsion is so strong that it far surpasses merely wincing or putting a hanky to my nose, or complaining: I just must leave. The very first time I encountered the smoke of burning sage, it was in Paris, and it was apparently being burnt in a very, very evil place. That's about all I can recount concerning sage smoke: I had never smelled it, nor did I know what it was, but, being young and fearless I did tread onto some very distinctly evil territory, and that's where I first got a whiff of it, and, thankfully, I turned back--going no deeper into this place--so in reality--I never *saw* what was being conducted there: I only attempted to walk down the sweating halls to get closer. The smoke....this ungodly stench.....was potent enough for me to make an abrupt about face, and, quite literally, run away.
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F - when it comes to reconnecting with ex's, I've found that this is always a bad experience except sometimes for the one being contacted. You say he's broken your heart more than once. This guy is your kryptonite. Nothing good can come from this. Put his email in your spam filter and go smell Acqua di Gio on some Jersey Shore cast reject to purge the association.

F - when it comes to reconnecting with ex's, I've found that this is always a bad experience except sometimes for the one being contacted. You say he's broken your heart more than once. This guy is your kryptonite. Nothing good can come from this. Put his email in your spam filter and go smell Acqua di Gio on some Jersey Shore cast reject to purge the association.
Totally. Listen to Rube, Fleurine!!!
*clutches arms of chair*
Fleurine - I'll do your bidding and come up with something. It won't be much - but maybe my foolishness will help you get your mind off your foolishness, as you put it.
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Well, I wrote out perhaps the longest post this thread has ever seen, and we all know it has seen some long ones, describing as best i could my "visit," as I do believe that today would be its' 23rd anniversary....would it? 1989?.....replete with the "logic" described labouriously--as it is tremendously difficult to explain in earthly terms, THEN, when I went to colour Dr. Perfumistico's name in hot pink, which I am always wont to do to remind him never to change his avatar, the site froze, and I lost the post. I am trying to keep calm about it. It did take me about 2.5 hours to write. Again: Calm. ...
Ugh!!!!!! I'm *so upset* about losing this post!!!!! I daren't try to re-write it before these macabre warnings ^^^^^ are gone! Note: I won't try to turn Dr. Perfumistico's name hot pink on this one....

Well, I wrote out perhaps the longest post this thread has ever seen, and we all know it has seen some long ones, describing as best i could my "visit," as I do believe that today would be its' 23rd anniversary....would it? 1989?.....replete with the "logic" described labouriously--as it is tremendously difficult to explain in earthly terms, THEN, when I went to colour Dr. Perfumistico's name in hot pink, which I am always wont to do to remind him never to change his avatar, the site froze, and I lost the post. I am trying to keep calm about it. It did take me about 2.5 hours to write. Again: Calm. ...
Ugh!!!!!! I'm *so upset* about losing this post!!!!! I daren't try to re-write it before these macabre warnings ^^^^^ are gone! Note: I won't try to turn Dr. Perfumistico's name hot pink on this one....
Terribly sorry about this - I've gotten a few of these, too. Especially in your early threads. I really had to persevere.
Are you taking advantage of the new autosave feature? Here is how it works.....
(1) something screws up - badly. You are off the page, and no matter what you do, your work is gone. You can't get it back.
(2) Stop trying to get the lost text back. Instead, do the following.
(3) Return to the page anew, as if you were starting over again. There should be no sign of your previous work.
(4) Go to the EXACT SAME widget that you were posting in before. If it's the one at the bottom of the page, use that. If it was the one that results from hitting "Reply" or "Reply With Quote" under (and this is VERY important) a *specific post*, then go to that specific post and hit the exact same item.
(5) In the lower left corner, you will see a somewhat floating item that says "Restore Auto-Saved Content".
(6) CLICK ON IT!
You will be amazed. Usually, almost all of your work is restored. This is one of the best things Grant has given us in ages!!!
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... Then, something came through the window: It is impossible to describe what it looked like, as it had no mass as we imagine "something" might have. Identity, though, it had, and it was twain: That is to say, there were two. The "Something" was actually two things. The closest "thing" I have ever seen that would "look" vaguely the way they did would be the twirly fine line of incense smoke that a joss stick emits, where it is stick straight for a piece, then it goes all curly in ringlets, but, in reality, it didn't "look" like anything I can describe: I thought I had something in my eyes, or I was seeing things, or something, so I blinked. ... So: That's part one.

... Then, something came through the window: It is impossible to describe what it looked like, as it had no mass as we imagine "something" might have. Identity, though, it had, and it was twain: That is to say, there were two. The "Something" was actually two things. The closest "thing" I have ever seen that would "look" vaguely the way they did would be the twirly fine line of incense smoke that a joss stick emits, where it is stick straight for a piece, then it goes all curly in ringlets, but, in reality, it didn't "look" like anything I can describe: I thought I had something in my eyes, or I was seeing things, or something, so I blinked. ... So: That's part one.
Fascinating. Simply fascinating.
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Back to sillage: Did you ever consider the opposite? As in sillage that could repel? I have because there is something that I simply can not have inside of my nostrils and that is: The smoke of burning sage--the type mystics use to "smudge" atmospheres. I need get only one hint of a molecule of it and I must leave the room. My best friend who committed suicide last year used to tease me about this, as he had witnessed it many times: If there is a bunch of sage lit in my presence, the exhaust that it emits is so repulsive to me that I *can not* breathe it in--and I will immediately leave, rather than discussing it. The irony is that this type of smoke is meant to ward off "Evil Spirits" and that's why Emile would poke fun at me--he often would threaten to light some if I didn't cease and desist whatever it was I might have been doing to annoy him, as, fatally, this would work: It's not that I find it unpleasant: It's that I can't have it in my nose, or near me: The revulsion is so strong that it far surpasses merely wincing or putting a hanky to my nose, or complaining: I just must leave. The very first time I encountered the smoke of burning sage, it was in Paris, and it was apparently being burnt in a very, very evil place. That's about all I can recount concerning sage smoke: I had never smelled it, nor did I know what it was, but, being young and fearless I did tread onto some very distinctly evil territory, and that's where I first got a whiff of it, and, thankfully, I turned back--going no deeper into this place--so in reality--I never *saw* what was being conducted there: I only attempted to walk down the sweating halls to get closer. The smoke....this ungodly stench.....was potent enough for me to make an abrupt about face, and, quite literally, run away.

Back to sillage: Did you ever consider the opposite? As in sillage that could repel? I have because there is something that I simply can not have inside of my nostrils and that is: The smoke of burning sage--the type mystics use to "smudge" atmospheres. I need get only one hint of a molecule of it and I must leave the room. My best friend who committed suicide last year used to tease me about this, as he had witnessed it many times: If there is a bunch of sage lit in my presence, the exhaust that it emits is so repulsive to me that I *can not* breathe it in--and I will immediately leave, rather than discussing it. The irony is that this type of smoke is meant to ward off "Evil Spirits" and that's why Emile would poke fun at me--he often would threaten to light some if I didn't cease and desist whatever it was I might have been doing to annoy him, as, fatally, this would work: It's not that I find it unpleasant: It's that I can't have it in my nose, or near me: The revulsion is so strong that it far surpasses merely wincing or putting a hanky to my nose, or complaining: I just must leave. The very first time I encountered the smoke of burning sage, it was in Paris, and it was apparently being burnt in a very, very evil place. That's about all I can recount concerning sage smoke: I had never smelled it, nor did I know what it was, but, being young and fearless I did tread onto some very distinctly evil territory, and that's where I first got a whiff of it, and, thankfully, I turned back--going no deeper into this place--so in reality--I never *saw* what was being conducted there: I only attempted to walk down the sweating halls to get closer. The smoke....this ungodly stench.....was potent enough for me to make an abrupt about face, and, quite literally, run away.
I guess context at first sniff is everything. I don't know where I first smelled burning sage, but my best memory of it is from the Taos Pueblo, which for me is a very positive place. I hope that there are other types of ceremonial smoke that you find pleasant, because I really feel that every fragrance fan should have at least one simple, primitive "per fume" that they love.

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I don't get why people go so gaga over these bell jar relics. When it came to light that I had thrown to the wind the Rose de Nuit one, which, incidentally, smells like vampires, which fits its current owner well, I might add, I was told it was "priceless." This one above, which came with it, has just been gathering dust and it smells like DEATH. At any rate: This bottle is a point for point copy of a flacon designed by Louis Sue for Patou in the mid twenties to hold the original dark red staining body rub/oil that was "Huile de Chaldee," (I have one, and have compared them: Identical, except the marble stopper on the Louis Sue one isn't quite round) and these fragrances: Why would anyone *want * to smell like that? I can imagine the "O.M.G." if Rube held a black square sealed bottle of NOMBRE NOIR--now that--it's true--I would have to have my head examined--but these "Salon du Palais Royal" comps--granted there are a few superb ones--but mostly they are just over-done pretentious sketches: I did mention I was appalled when I smelled this "de Profundis," yes? and "Chergui"? (I was truly brought to laugh at that one.) Serge Lutens, by my take, while being one of the MOST talented and influential art directors of our time (even that superb video above owes so much to him) is hardly a perfumer: He's an artist and a visionary, and a fine one: One of the best of our age--his British Nose Pal--I don't know: I probably shouldn't go on. The two creations that changed the world coming from Serge's direction are NOMBRE NOIR, and FEMININITE DU BOIS. The rest--Give me Comme des Garcons! They're so much better! I have so many of these bell jars in the cave! I used to live in that palais royal boutique: Upstairs there's a really cool hang out where, back in the day, you could spend the afternoon sipping tea and talking to serge: Serge was (I suppose "is" -I don't know him anymore) very generous--I never left without at least one. I was so into this vibe in the '90's: Blew through bell jars by the week. That was then. To me, when I smell these SL creations, all i can think of is Kristin McMenamy parading about trashed at parties with shaved off eye brows.....so 90's!
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^I must admit that I'm not a fan of Serge's stuff. CdG - yes - big fan, though not on a daily basis.
HOWEVER, it seems that everybody is gaga for the SL, and *particularly* ISM. Too many noses that I respect place this fragrance on the absolute tip-top shelf. So I simply must share in their "gaga" over your generous gift to Rubegon!!!
Now Nombre Noir - I would like to smell the vintage stuff. Too much has been written of it - it must have been exquisite stuff!
HOWEVER, it seems that everybody is gaga for the SL, and *particularly* ISM. Too many noses that I respect place this fragrance on the absolute tip-top shelf. So I simply must share in their "gaga" over your generous gift to Rubegon!!!
Now Nombre Noir - I would like to smell the vintage stuff. Too much has been written of it - it must have been exquisite stuff!
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OH: I burn so much incense it borders on irrational, not to mention that the burning of incense is integral to my culture and Faith. I have and love too many to even begin to list them, but the best come from Holy Cross Skete. These are veritable incenses made by monks from natural resins and essential oils and are also made according to Orthodox Tradition, prayers and chanting and the whole pageant. My absolute favourite would be "Shepherd's Field." There are so many different ones; the only disadvantage is that they are what the French would call "pepites" and require a coal to burn: Also, they are not at all easy to find. Here's all I can offer: Holy Cross Skete, P.O Box 2343 Wayne, West Virginia 25570 tel: (304) 849-4726. I've a friend who phoned and ordered them that way. I buy them at an Orthodox Book Store: If there is any skete near where you live, they are bound to have a dusty shop where books and icons are sold, and usually, the entire range of this incense, which is so superb, it makes joss sticks seem like toxic waste pollution. (a skete is a monastery, just in case....)
About this ISM: I suppose it is a matter of taste. I assume people rave about it because it is indeed remarkable: If you wear this, there is no way people aren't going to comment on it. It is so bizarre, steely and cold that it might only be described as alien to Earth: Nothing smells like this. Considering what "people" go in for these days, I suppose I grasp why it is that so many are fond of this, as I can think of no other perfume that would impart such an "other-worldly" aura, and people seem eager for attention, so I assume if you are a raging perfumita/o, wearing this is the nec plus ultra of chic, as, attention, it will get. Nombre Noir........how to explain just how gorgeous this was?..........Nombre Noir was a bit like Opium, except it was WHITE. It had a depth and presence and all around intoxication inducing, head-spinning beauty to it--very much like Opium, which, as recounted above, induced the thought: "This is the most beautiful scent I have ever smelled in all of my life" the very first time I whiffed it, but has no dirt or spice or weird exotic undertone: It was pure, pure white. One imagined that perhaps Heaven might smell a bit like that: What it had was that singularness that, for instance, vintage Joy parfum always had, where you just *knew* it was something extraordinary, and rare, and expensive, and DEEP. Nombre Noir was not a sheldrake comp, either: I'm not sure who created it. What was memorable about it, what set it apart from everything, was how it illustrated a depth of white previously unimaginable. I always thought its name was so terribly ironic, that, you know, something so white could be called black......I'm sure it would be impossible to recreate today: In fact it was discontinued I believe due to the sudden disappearance of a certain grade of Jasmine absolute, due to a war.....something like that.....I remember running breathless all over paris trying to get a bottle when I read in the press (I had at that time access to the internal fragrance industry press) that it's production would be stopped, and finally did find one: At Galleries Lafayette of all places! and....I sniffed this like a drug. rarely did I ever put it on: I would unstopper the bottle, and sniff at it. I believe I inhaled the entire contents of a 7ml flacon, which I still have, but is dry.....dry.....dry: Nothing at all left inside, save for a very faint lilt of scent, gone a bit off, like a rotting casa blanca lily....but, oh: What a perfume that was. A masterpiece. Truly, a work of art in every sense of the term.
About this ISM: I suppose it is a matter of taste. I assume people rave about it because it is indeed remarkable: If you wear this, there is no way people aren't going to comment on it. It is so bizarre, steely and cold that it might only be described as alien to Earth: Nothing smells like this. Considering what "people" go in for these days, I suppose I grasp why it is that so many are fond of this, as I can think of no other perfume that would impart such an "other-worldly" aura, and people seem eager for attention, so I assume if you are a raging perfumita/o, wearing this is the nec plus ultra of chic, as, attention, it will get. Nombre Noir........how to explain just how gorgeous this was?..........Nombre Noir was a bit like Opium, except it was WHITE. It had a depth and presence and all around intoxication inducing, head-spinning beauty to it--very much like Opium, which, as recounted above, induced the thought: "This is the most beautiful scent I have ever smelled in all of my life" the very first time I whiffed it, but has no dirt or spice or weird exotic undertone: It was pure, pure white. One imagined that perhaps Heaven might smell a bit like that: What it had was that singularness that, for instance, vintage Joy parfum always had, where you just *knew* it was something extraordinary, and rare, and expensive, and DEEP. Nombre Noir was not a sheldrake comp, either: I'm not sure who created it. What was memorable about it, what set it apart from everything, was how it illustrated a depth of white previously unimaginable. I always thought its name was so terribly ironic, that, you know, something so white could be called black......I'm sure it would be impossible to recreate today: In fact it was discontinued I believe due to the sudden disappearance of a certain grade of Jasmine absolute, due to a war.....something like that.....I remember running breathless all over paris trying to get a bottle when I read in the press (I had at that time access to the internal fragrance industry press) that it's production would be stopped, and finally did find one: At Galleries Lafayette of all places! and....I sniffed this like a drug. rarely did I ever put it on: I would unstopper the bottle, and sniff at it. I believe I inhaled the entire contents of a 7ml flacon, which I still have, but is dry.....dry.....dry: Nothing at all left inside, save for a very faint lilt of scent, gone a bit off, like a rotting casa blanca lily....but, oh: What a perfume that was. A masterpiece. Truly, a work of art in every sense of the term.
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^^^speaking of running all over looking for a bottle once you had read the press, I just blind pre-ordered one of these>>>
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^^^speaking of running all over looking for a bottle once you had read the press, I just blind pre-ordered one of these>>>

^^^speaking of running all over looking for a bottle once you had read the press, I just blind pre-ordered one of these>>>
Nice!
I am very interested in reading the book and sniffing the fragrance. Have you read the book yet? I just pre-ordered that on Kindle.
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I'm a wuss when it comes to those drop down warning signs that indicate your personal information may be at risk--so I've no idea what book it is: But i've a bit of a clue: I believe a friend of mine wrote the preface to it, and, no I'm sure I won't be reading it. Books on perfume annoy me no end, especially that bit of ridiculousness by the Burr fellow, Emperor of Scent--was it? which, for me, was the last straw. This whole Luca Turin/Chandler Burr cult is such stuff and nonsense, and it fascinates me how people consider them Gods. The one who wrote "the Guide," -- whichever one it is -- A friend of mine has it, and I have perused it, and I bowl over laughing each time: Such poppycock! Today is July 06th, 2012. My resolve for the day is to CLEAN MY HOUSE, so I will be smelling of "Mrs. Something or Other Clean Day" household projects and blasting my i-tunes so loud you all might just hear them wherever you are. I am counting on all of you to make, out of kindness, some kind of incantation or prayer or affirmation in my name--whatever it is you do--that might empower me to put order into this house: It is such a disaster that I now find that I fear for my health. If you see my green light on in the next 15 hours, find me, and whip me back into the hoovering/scrubbing/polishing/washing immediately: I will give in. If I don't give in, I will give up. Here goes: Wish me luck, people........
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You are so funny, MdM. You make me smile.
From one procrastinator to another: good luck! I'm sure you've been whirling through it like a force of nature today, once your mind is set upon it. Me, I still haven't packed, and I'm leaving early a.m. I had to run out in the car to make a last minute purchase, and I got on the wrong road and just kept driving as if I were already on the road, traveling. Finally, I woke up and turned around to run my errand. That killed at least an hour. Please wish me luck and say your prayers that I actually wind up safely in Florida without an absent minded detour through Alaska. YOU, dear ones, I always remember in mine. I keep saying goodbye and never seem to leave, lol! Well, bye again! xo
From one procrastinator to another: good luck! I'm sure you've been whirling through it like a force of nature today, once your mind is set upon it. Me, I still haven't packed, and I'm leaving early a.m. I had to run out in the car to make a last minute purchase, and I got on the wrong road and just kept driving as if I were already on the road, traveling. Finally, I woke up and turned around to run my errand. That killed at least an hour. Please wish me luck and say your prayers that I actually wind up safely in Florida without an absent minded detour through Alaska. YOU, dear ones, I always remember in mine. I keep saying goodbye and never seem to leave, lol! Well, bye again! xo
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Clean house Prayers being said over here for you as well, LeMdm!
What is this book? Some sort of naughty Catholic passion during holy week book?
Love that idea, if so.
But if it is a book about perfume itself or perfume making...then I am not so sure I would like it.
Which Spanish perfume houses are good, anyway?
Redneck, is the release supposed to coincide with the fragrance release?
I am supposed to be packing to go on a trip myself...
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Lilybelle, prayers being said for you for a safe and comfortable trip! And some for you too lMdm, although maybe by this time of the evening you are all finished and surveying your now clean domain. I did a little vacuuming and such today but it was very warm out and I had too many things going as it was, so I'll have to have another go at it tomorrow. - Fleurine, when are you leaving? I know you've mentioned this trip - cruise, is it soon? I know you have to pack those fabulous shoes....
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What is this book? Some sort of naughty Catholic passion during holy week book?
Love that idea, if so.
But if it is a book about perfume itself or perfume making...then I am not so sure I would like it.
Which Spanish perfume houses are good, anyway?
Redneck, is the release supposed to coincide with the fragrance release?
I am supposed to be packing to go on a trip myself...

What is this book? Some sort of naughty Catholic passion during holy week book?
Love that idea, if so.
But if it is a book about perfume itself or perfume making...then I am not so sure I would like it.
Which Spanish perfume houses are good, anyway?
Redneck, is the release supposed to coincide with the fragrance release?
I am supposed to be packing to go on a trip myself...
Yes, they're connected, Fleurine. If I remember correctly, Denyse was writing the book or recounting the story or something, and B.D. heard it and was inspired to make a fragrance based on the night of passion around which it centers. Etc., etc., book and story and commemorative fragrance intertwine. Several posters on the BN article about it bashed the book as lewd, crude, and socially unacceptable - cheaply pornographic - etc., etc. - at which point it simply became a must-read for me. Without making any reference to the writing, it was a premonitory contribution to Sex and the Sillage, in which all sins of writing are forgiven, as long as one earnestly joins the spirit of the discussion, no? Speaking of which, my weak contribution will follow later this weekend, but I don't have it on this device, so it will have to wait.
I don't know if the book and the fragrance are timed to coincide exactly, but in general - most definitely.
BTW - I hope you have a grand time on your trip, and that you are reading this from some exciting place, be that an airport terminal, a cruise ship, or a hotel. And if not this, then my next post. Hope you encounter some fragrant wonders down there. Odd local fragrances in exotic ports of call are cherished memories. Hope you find some, and tell us all about them.
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Ok, I am sitting in a deck chair, outside on the terrace of my room on this cruise ship looking out at a pitch black Altantic Ocean, and listening to the waves, at night...heading into the Bermuda triangle, BTW. Waiting for the next update of S and the S. The only sillage I am getting at the moment is sea spray...I am wearing Beyond Paradise by EL.
Crickets?
Crickets?
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More like incessant hoovering. My sexy and fabulously glamorous holiday reduced to one word: Agoraphobia. I have scarcely left the house in five days. Rather than knocking back the mai-tais starting at 6:00am and hobnobbing incessantly with the Kona Crowd for the Fourth and beyond, I've left those Givenchy Mandels in their box, drawn the drapes and gave the dogs bones: I inhaled "Windsor I" by Creed from my majestic glass stoppered perfumer's flask, all engraved and silver leafed in Royal Warrants, and, in between re-sealing the marble in the kitchen, countertops, floor, and splashboards, which chore was only able to be performed once I washed, dried and put away two sets of china, and two and half sets of silverware, as well as whole cupboards full of cookware, all of which had been strewn on every available surface in the kitchen, and that for the last two months, and putting mounds and mounds and mounds of laundry through the washer and dryer, destroying four cashmere sweaters in the mix, I read up on the Duke and the Duchess's scabrous sex lives, making ours above look like "The Tales of Mother Goose": I thought I had read the most shocking in that tell all volume "The Secret Life" by Charles Higham, as I am in possession of the latest copy, updated with, as previously mentioned "the latest revelations," until, by sheer coincidence, I found yet another book, lost under heaps and heaps of mail, that I had tossed on the floor in the foyer: This book was given to me by one of my "Patients," who promised that I would be regaled by all of the indiscretions revealed there in, so many, that the actual book itself has been forced out of print: This book was written by a young man who, from a very early age, made a career out of innocently CENSORED with other CENSORED When WWII hit, and he was drafted, he leaves no sordid detail unrevealed about the goings on in ports of call where soldiers where let loose for whole weekends of frenetic and incessant CENSORED After the war, he lands in Hollywood, where he pumps petrol at a prominent station where all of the Movie Stars, male and female, as well as Studio glitterati came to CENSORED in a pair of trailer-mobile homes conveniently parked behind it. I was about to toss the book in the rubbish, as books such as these I seldom read, until I saw that there was an entire chapter dedicated to the famous Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Now, I had been amused while reading Higham's book, where in the Duke is followed throughout most of his life by a bosom pal, one "Fruity Metcalfe," who also, conveniently was his footman, and then later, to witness the posse enlarge to include one Jimmy Donahue, who, among other atrocities, after the war, was known to CENSORED in the Waldorf Towers in New York, tying them up, then CENSORED leaving them in a bloody mess to be disposed of by henchmen. It was purportedly a favourite perversion of the time, ceremonious CENSORED something remarked upon frequently concerning the Duke himself by various indiscrete onlookers, the Duke being ever so fond of Turkish Baths, but this was nothing compared to what is reported in this other book. In the other one, it is revealed that both the Duke and the Duchess were CENSORED: Their primary source of shared amusement being, as previously mentioned, the Duke's fondness, and the Duchess's natural inclination to flawlessly adapt, to Nursery games, where in he played the Baby and Wallis, perfectly cast, played the stern, spanking Governess: This little bit of info is contained in both books, but the second one outlines in gory detail just how the writer meets them, (the connection squares perfectly with the more serious Higham work) and proceeds to organize CENSORED for both of them: The author, being a man, actually takes part in these, and reports that the Duke had an unbridled lust, or, as he is quoted as putting it, fondness for CENSORED on an entire line up of CENSORED, preferably CENSORED in partial uniform, CENSORED, and even is reported to have licked stray bits off the floor in front of them; the writer casually adds that the Duke was "very good at it," and was tireless: In one of the CENSORED he describes, a party of CENSORED is "entertained" by the Duke, not once, but twice, thrice, as many times as they could manage. British readers familiar with the Duchess will immediately infer that she must have taught him how to persevere, for much ado has been made of her particular talents in this regard over the years and is highlighted repeatedly in the Higham book, blithely referred to as her "Chinese Techniques," which, apparently, she was taught at a young age in a brothel in Peking. All I need at this point is my head to be filled over with curlers, and a pair of pink peluche mules, as, strenuously, I scrub, hoover, dust, organize, wash, fold, and sort, a scabrous illegal book in one hand, and a feather duster in the other, all the while inhaling this perfume: An odd one, to say the least. When you apply it, the general impression is that you are lost in a field of honeysuckle: This effect proves to be the scent of the hardly-ever-used-in-perfumery "Nuits de Young" Rose, which persists throughout the composition, on a bed.....of gin! (layer this with ELO's "Secretions Magnifiques" and perhaps we would get a whiff of what the strenuously enthusiastic CENSORED Duke smelled like *after the flood.*) We know that Wallis made a signature of mixing the extracts of l'Heure Bleue and Mitsouko: Being allergic to Mitsouko, I have not been able to replicate this "private blend," but enough of Creed's famously impossible to find "Windsor I" I have to last the rest of my life, perhaps retiring (for maybe a day) on the proceeds of it, as 3.5ml (1/8 oz) vials are being sold on e-bay for $40.00US. I have not spoken to anyone, seen anyone, nor have I left the house: My phone is powered off, and, as it turns out, this holiday is the very first real one I have ever had: I've not had to dress, bathe, be charming, erudite or witty, or listen to anyone's problems or gossip for almost a week, and, even though I am as a slave to my unkempt house, now finally looking again like a home, it is most refreshing. Greetings! From the middle of the longest, and deepest and hardest earned isolation! I'm having a roaring good time!
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7/9/12 at 7:14pm
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... I read up on the Duke and the Duchess's scabrous sex lives, making ours above look like "The Tales of Mother Goose": I thought I had read the most shocking in that tell all volume "The Secret Life" by Charles Higham, as I am in possession of the latest copy, updated with, as previously mentioned "the latest revelations," until, by sheer coincidence, I found yet another book, lost under heaps and heaps of mail, that I had tossed on the floor in the foyer: This book was given to me by one of my "Patients," who promised that I would be regaled by all of the indiscretions revealed there in, so many, that the actual book itself has been forced out of print: This book was written by a young man who, from a very early age, made a career out of innocently CENSORED with other CENSORED When WWII hit, and he was drafted, he leaves no sordid detail unrevealed about the goings on in ports of call where soldiers where let loose for whole weekends of frenetic and incessant CENSORED After the war, he lands in Hollywood, where he pumps petrol at a prominent station where all of the Movie Stars, male and female, as well as Studio glitterati came to CENSORED in a pair of trailer-mobile homes conveniently parked behind it. I was about to toss the book in the rubbish, as books such as these I seldom read, until I saw that there was an entire chapter dedicated to the famous Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Now, I had been amused while reading Higham's book, where in the Duke is followed throughout most of his life by a bosom pal, one "Fruity Metcalfe," who also, conveniently was his footman, and then later, to witness the posse enlarge to include one Jimmy Donahue, who, among other atrocities, after the war, was known to CENSORED in the Waldorf Towers in New York, tying them up, then CENSORED leaving them in a bloody mess to be disposed of by henchmen. It was purportedly a favourite perversion of the time, ceremonious CENSORED something remarked upon frequently concerning the Duke himself by various indiscrete onlookers, the Duke being ever so fond of Turkish Baths, but this was nothing compared to what is reported in this other book. In the other one, it is revealed that both the Duke and the Duchess were CENSORED: Their primary source of shared amusement being, as previously mentioned, the Duke's fondness, and the Duchess's natural inclination to flawlessly adapt, to Nursery games, where in he played the Baby and Wallis, perfectly cast, played the stern, spanking Governess: This little bit of info is contained in both books, but the second one outlines in gory detail just how the writer meets them, (the connection squares perfectly with the more serious Higham work) and proceeds to organize CENSORED for both of them: The author, being a man, actually takes part in these, and reports that the Duke had an unbridled lust, or, as he is quoted as putting it, fondness for CENSORED on an entire line up of CENSORED, preferably CENSORED in partial uniform, CENSORED, and even is reported to have licked stray bits off the floor in front of them; the writer casually adds that the Duke was "very good at it," and was tireless: In one of the CENSORED he describes, a party of CENSORED is "entertained" by the Duke, not once, but twice, thrice, as many times as they could manage. British readers familiar with the Duchess will immediately infer that she must have taught him how to persevere, for much ado has been made of her particular talents in this regard over the years and is highlighted repeatedly in the Higham book, blithely referred to as her "Chinese Techniques," which, apparently, she was taught at a young age in a brothel in Peking. ... (quote revised at request of MdM)

... I read up on the Duke and the Duchess's scabrous sex lives, making ours above look like "The Tales of Mother Goose": I thought I had read the most shocking in that tell all volume "The Secret Life" by Charles Higham, as I am in possession of the latest copy, updated with, as previously mentioned "the latest revelations," until, by sheer coincidence, I found yet another book, lost under heaps and heaps of mail, that I had tossed on the floor in the foyer: This book was given to me by one of my "Patients," who promised that I would be regaled by all of the indiscretions revealed there in, so many, that the actual book itself has been forced out of print: This book was written by a young man who, from a very early age, made a career out of innocently CENSORED with other CENSORED When WWII hit, and he was drafted, he leaves no sordid detail unrevealed about the goings on in ports of call where soldiers where let loose for whole weekends of frenetic and incessant CENSORED After the war, he lands in Hollywood, where he pumps petrol at a prominent station where all of the Movie Stars, male and female, as well as Studio glitterati came to CENSORED in a pair of trailer-mobile homes conveniently parked behind it. I was about to toss the book in the rubbish, as books such as these I seldom read, until I saw that there was an entire chapter dedicated to the famous Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Now, I had been amused while reading Higham's book, where in the Duke is followed throughout most of his life by a bosom pal, one "Fruity Metcalfe," who also, conveniently was his footman, and then later, to witness the posse enlarge to include one Jimmy Donahue, who, among other atrocities, after the war, was known to CENSORED in the Waldorf Towers in New York, tying them up, then CENSORED leaving them in a bloody mess to be disposed of by henchmen. It was purportedly a favourite perversion of the time, ceremonious CENSORED something remarked upon frequently concerning the Duke himself by various indiscrete onlookers, the Duke being ever so fond of Turkish Baths, but this was nothing compared to what is reported in this other book. In the other one, it is revealed that both the Duke and the Duchess were CENSORED: Their primary source of shared amusement being, as previously mentioned, the Duke's fondness, and the Duchess's natural inclination to flawlessly adapt, to Nursery games, where in he played the Baby and Wallis, perfectly cast, played the stern, spanking Governess: This little bit of info is contained in both books, but the second one outlines in gory detail just how the writer meets them, (the connection squares perfectly with the more serious Higham work) and proceeds to organize CENSORED for both of them: The author, being a man, actually takes part in these, and reports that the Duke had an unbridled lust, or, as he is quoted as putting it, fondness for CENSORED on an entire line up of CENSORED, preferably CENSORED in partial uniform, CENSORED, and even is reported to have licked stray bits off the floor in front of them; the writer casually adds that the Duke was "very good at it," and was tireless: In one of the CENSORED he describes, a party of CENSORED is "entertained" by the Duke, not once, but twice, thrice, as many times as they could manage. British readers familiar with the Duchess will immediately infer that she must have taught him how to persevere, for much ado has been made of her particular talents in this regard over the years and is highlighted repeatedly in the Higham book, blithely referred to as her "Chinese Techniques," which, apparently, she was taught at a young age in a brothel in Peking. ... (quote revised at request of MdM)
Eau. Mah. Gah.
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.I hereby rescind even the IDEA of placing any comparatively atomic vestige of my "life experiences" (cough, cough) within the same FORUM, much less THREAD, as the above.
My friends, I hereby give you the sum total of my worldly exploits in relation to this penultimate demonstration of, as they say, sex and the sillage........
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It is quite shocking, Isn't it? The interesting bit is how this odd relationship is so clearly evident in the photos that are now our only vestige of this famous couple: Invariably, H.R.H the Duke of Windsor looks embarrassed and ashamed, and (emphatically *not,* nor ever, per Queen Mary's dying wish, H.R.H, but, "Her Grace") the Duchess of Windsor looks stern, proud, domineering, and every bit....the part. Just the number of photos that survive showing him sitting on the floor at her feet is surprising. "Eau. Mah. Gau." is, as is always served up by our impeccably erudite Dr. Perfumistico, the perfect response: I had somewhat the same, except that "Dear" replaced "Gau." And then there's this bizarre scent! (Which I've become rather prone to *somewhat* dislike, all the while finding it fascinating, but, as you all know, I am no fan of "CREED.") We all sort of already knew that "Eddy" -- *Or* -- "David," alternately "Davie" as Wallis always inexplicably called him, even in mixed company, no one seems to know why and no explanation is given, was a bit of a raging queen, and that Wallis was slightly....ehm.....severe looking, but this! At any rate: Who are we to compete with Royalty + 1? Since precious few of you seem wont to expose anything remotely scabrous, even about a perfume, I felt that *something* had to shake things up a bit: I'm sorry if it left some of you in a daze: We wouldn't want a sour taste in our.....oh, ehm....never mind.
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7/10/12 at 6:23pm
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I see you have been so, so busy lMdM! Congratulations on finishing your household tasks - I will have to have a marathon of housecleaning myself, but it's been so incredibly warm ( hot! ) that I must admit to feeling - ???languid would be a way of putting it nicely. On the plus side of things, I've been sitting outside these evenings, and with the heat and humidity, all of the lovely smells of the flowers and fields are particularly intense. I close my eyes and think of what I'm smelling - the heliotrope, purple petunia, night stocks, carnations, cow manure, hay, the canola ( rapeseed ) fields. It's a party of smells!
Reading about the Duke and Duchess of Windsor...hmmm I may have to try to see what the mix of l'Heure Bleue and Mitsouko does for me - probably tomorrow night, right now I'm spending the evening with Bal a Versailles....
Reading about the Duke and Duchess of Windsor...hmmm I may have to try to see what the mix of l'Heure Bleue and Mitsouko does for me - probably tomorrow night, right now I'm spending the evening with Bal a Versailles....
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7/11/12 at 6:34pm
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hi from Bermuda. Le MdM you would be proud of me.I spent the day at the beach shrouded in long pants and a long sleeve shirt under an umbrella and coated from stem to stern in SPF 50, two lancome products and the spray on Aveeno stuff. Also with straw hat and glasses. I did briefly go into the crystal blue water and what gorgeous marine life did I see? Why a brand new pair of Fendi sunglasses. Authentic and made in Italy, just sunk into the pink sand at the bottom, so I fished them out and put them on. Sampling Lili of Bermuda fragrnaces right now...they all sort of remind me of Estee Lauder Pleasures, which I do like..more later, I am going kayaking in my long sleeve everything tomorrow....what was it about mad dogs and Englishmen?
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7/11/12 at 7:14pm
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^Great find, Fleurine! Have a fun time kayaking in your new Fendis! 
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SCORE!!!!!
Were they cute? I was about to say: "You wouldn't want those giant gold "F's" on the temples," but then I thought: "F is for Fleurine, who knew just what to do on the Beach in Peru." (Or wherever it is you are.) I do hope you remembered to re-apply immediately after bathing. People get such a kick out of my sun screen scenarios in Hawaii: I must be slathered head to foot with 100SPF (I actually prefer Banana Boat: I've tried the Lancome: Not as effective: (It's like hair product: The drugstore brands just work better) plus, they don't sell it at ABC, and as I go through a tube a day, if I can't get it at ABC, it's just not an appropriate choice.) Then, I have this long Ann Demeuelemeester cotton t-shirt jersey "coat" of sorts, and, being Ann, naturally it's black, and the sleeves are long enough so I can actually cover my hands in them, it also has a hood, and all of these "bits" hanging from it: I loved it/needed it so much, I bought two--That goes on, and all I really need after that are the appropriate sunglasses, to then not allow allow so much as a fingertip out of the shade: I've even worn it in the water(after the sun sets, of course): That's why I needed two, a wet one, and a dry one. For the sake of decency, I revised my D of W post above. After all: They were in love. On another note, I do think that I must learn that there's just no point in trying to keep local businesses alive: I actually -left my house- which, at this point, is a bit of a miracle, and spent almost an hour in what is meant to be the largest "record store" in the country, which truly is the size of a football field, and came out empty handed: Going in, all I wanted was a copy of "The Irrepressibles" CD, and a DVD of W.E.: You'd think that wouldn't be too much to ask, now, wouldn't you? But no: Were I interested in an horror film, on the other hand, it would have taken me even longer just to sift through the choices. I *almost* bought a mass of Bauhaus CD's, as, on the way, I went pants shopping, and "She's in Parties" was playing while I poked around. What did I find? Two PERFECT pairs of vintage Levi's "Movin'On" flair chords in W28 L36, which, miraculously, fit, and even more miraculously, were in perfect condition, and beyond: Cost......wait for it.....$12.00 a pop. Beats $860.00 Diors, doesn't it? (At any rate if I see another pair of "skinnies" I'll puke.) Decided against the Bauhaus Blitz because i thought I might become....disbalanced.....if I had a "Bauhaus" playlist. I can't be trusted. I'm getting a bit antsy, though: This life of seclusion.....I'm not sure I'm cut out for it. On the other hand, my house actually looks like a home now, and not the final "After the Mob" scene in "Marie Antoinette." (When "All Cats Are Grey" kicks in) The really scary bit that has been revealed is this: My cave is so full, I now have to start storing in crates on the ground: An 8' X 10' room w/8' ceiling, shelves all around, of solid perfume. I can't even get a 7ml box of extract onto the shelves anywhere, top to bottom: All of the unstored boxes I found cleaning have had to go into stackable crates on the floor. I did need to take a break, you know, because, coming to this realization, I have very seriously posed myself the following question: "Am I Mad?" My intent, you see, was to have enough Jicky etc "for the rest of my life." What I've ended up with is enough stock to fill an entire store, after I die, as I calculated that, at best, I may have another 35-40 years in me--then I took an inventory, and it seems that I can now begin using with abandon: Using "Napoleon Style," where in a 1000ml bee bottle was poured out daily. I'm afraid I'll have to take an oath that I shall never buy another bottle of perfume again, and that, forevermore, so help me God. There: You have it in writing for the entire world to see. Good thing I have no taste for wine or champagne, isn't it? Today came "Opium Pour Homme" EdP, and a 30ml Crepe de Chine extract in the most fetching screw cap bottle. According to my calculations, I have one more "Opium Pour Homme" on the way, and that, my friends, shall be it for me. I found indulging in "Opium" a very fitting "last gesture," so I can then truthfully say that I finally "kicked that nasty Opium habit." It will henceforth be code......
Were they cute? I was about to say: "You wouldn't want those giant gold "F's" on the temples," but then I thought: "F is for Fleurine, who knew just what to do on the Beach in Peru." (Or wherever it is you are.) I do hope you remembered to re-apply immediately after bathing. People get such a kick out of my sun screen scenarios in Hawaii: I must be slathered head to foot with 100SPF (I actually prefer Banana Boat: I've tried the Lancome: Not as effective: (It's like hair product: The drugstore brands just work better) plus, they don't sell it at ABC, and as I go through a tube a day, if I can't get it at ABC, it's just not an appropriate choice.) Then, I have this long Ann Demeuelemeester cotton t-shirt jersey "coat" of sorts, and, being Ann, naturally it's black, and the sleeves are long enough so I can actually cover my hands in them, it also has a hood, and all of these "bits" hanging from it: I loved it/needed it so much, I bought two--That goes on, and all I really need after that are the appropriate sunglasses, to then not allow allow so much as a fingertip out of the shade: I've even worn it in the water(after the sun sets, of course): That's why I needed two, a wet one, and a dry one. For the sake of decency, I revised my D of W post above. After all: They were in love. On another note, I do think that I must learn that there's just no point in trying to keep local businesses alive: I actually -left my house- which, at this point, is a bit of a miracle, and spent almost an hour in what is meant to be the largest "record store" in the country, which truly is the size of a football field, and came out empty handed: Going in, all I wanted was a copy of "The Irrepressibles" CD, and a DVD of W.E.: You'd think that wouldn't be too much to ask, now, wouldn't you? But no: Were I interested in an horror film, on the other hand, it would have taken me even longer just to sift through the choices. I *almost* bought a mass of Bauhaus CD's, as, on the way, I went pants shopping, and "She's in Parties" was playing while I poked around. What did I find? Two PERFECT pairs of vintage Levi's "Movin'On" flair chords in W28 L36, which, miraculously, fit, and even more miraculously, were in perfect condition, and beyond: Cost......wait for it.....$12.00 a pop. Beats $860.00 Diors, doesn't it? (At any rate if I see another pair of "skinnies" I'll puke.) Decided against the Bauhaus Blitz because i thought I might become....disbalanced.....if I had a "Bauhaus" playlist. I can't be trusted. I'm getting a bit antsy, though: This life of seclusion.....I'm not sure I'm cut out for it. On the other hand, my house actually looks like a home now, and not the final "After the Mob" scene in "Marie Antoinette." (When "All Cats Are Grey" kicks in) The really scary bit that has been revealed is this: My cave is so full, I now have to start storing in crates on the ground: An 8' X 10' room w/8' ceiling, shelves all around, of solid perfume. I can't even get a 7ml box of extract onto the shelves anywhere, top to bottom: All of the unstored boxes I found cleaning have had to go into stackable crates on the floor. I did need to take a break, you know, because, coming to this realization, I have very seriously posed myself the following question: "Am I Mad?" My intent, you see, was to have enough Jicky etc "for the rest of my life." What I've ended up with is enough stock to fill an entire store, after I die, as I calculated that, at best, I may have another 35-40 years in me--then I took an inventory, and it seems that I can now begin using with abandon: Using "Napoleon Style," where in a 1000ml bee bottle was poured out daily. I'm afraid I'll have to take an oath that I shall never buy another bottle of perfume again, and that, forevermore, so help me God. There: You have it in writing for the entire world to see. Good thing I have no taste for wine or champagne, isn't it? Today came "Opium Pour Homme" EdP, and a 30ml Crepe de Chine extract in the most fetching screw cap bottle. According to my calculations, I have one more "Opium Pour Homme" on the way, and that, my friends, shall be it for me. I found indulging in "Opium" a very fitting "last gesture," so I can then truthfully say that I finally "kicked that nasty Opium habit." It will henceforth be code......
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7/12/12 at 7:39am
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My intent, you see, was to have enough Jicky etc "for the rest of my life." What I've ended up with is enough stock to fill an entire store, after I die, as I calculated that, at best, I may have another 35-40 years in me--then I took an inventory, and it seems that I can now begin using with abandon: Using "Napoleon Style," where in a 1000ml bee bottle was poured out daily.

My intent, you see, was to have enough Jicky etc "for the rest of my life." What I've ended up with is enough stock to fill an entire store, after I die, as I calculated that, at best, I may have another 35-40 years in me--then I took an inventory, and it seems that I can now begin using with abandon: Using "Napoleon Style," where in a 1000ml bee bottle was poured out daily.
I find this rather reassuring.
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7/13/12 at 7:32am
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And you asked yourself " am I mad ?" no, no dear MdM, not mad - unless in a very good way. Why not have enough Jicky to use with Abandon, Napoleon style? Oh, that we could all be as "mad" as you...and MdM! as for taking an oath never to buy another bottle of perfume again, and that, forevermore, so help me God Did you really take that oath? Now, you say it's in writing for all to see
- but is there a perhaps a tiny chance you simply feel you may have to take that oath in future? Ah, well. If you have taken such an oath MdM, we know you have much, so much! in your vault to keep writing and tempting us to no end with ( almost ) easily available but overlooked, and sometimes hard to find treasures. And, love to hear you found those old Levi's flair cords. Even better to hear you got them for $12.00!
Fleurine, what fun to find those Fendi glasses ( buried treasure ) ! and yes! send photos
- but is there a perhaps a tiny chance you simply feel you may have to take that oath in future? Ah, well. If you have taken such an oath MdM, we know you have much, so much! in your vault to keep writing and tempting us to no end with ( almost ) easily available but overlooked, and sometimes hard to find treasures. And, love to hear you found those old Levi's flair cords. Even better to hear you got them for $12.00!Fleurine, what fun to find those Fendi glasses ( buried treasure ) ! and yes! send photos
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7/13/12 at 9:10am
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Hi there everyone. MdM kindly directed my attention to Sex and the Sillage (read: pimped this thread right out). So I'm going to take the plunge ... into this thread. Hope I'm not interrupting (interruptus?) too much, but since Fleurine was at the beach, I'll swim right in here, too.
In keeping with the original intent of the thread--sex, scent, attraction...revulsion (what else is there to life!?) ...
UPFRONT: I'm bisexual, or better explained, I don't care what gender my lovers are, and am way more into what kind of person--about that I'm super picky. It's pretty acceptable these days to be bisexual, I guess, but we ladies are still fighting the doing-it-for-the-male gaze stigma...but you see I'm more prone to doing it for the male gays, more on that later.
I haven't had many scented lovers. A few of the first girls I was with wore things in high school and college: one in her mother's hand-me-down Cinnabar --which heats up and down beautifully--(ace! ace! but probably more for a man's taste, as I hear many read sex into spice on a woman), Anais Anais--which gets too incense and not enough of sensual (those ads say it all for lesbian attraction, and even Luca Turin could sense that, thick as he can be), a third girlfriend I recall using some cheap body shop jojoba thing, but it was in fact the hottest of the three to me. Yeah, that bad. I'm attracted to the hens, while I'm the peacock, to the point of being especially drawn to the most adorably clued-out sartorial messes, so minimalist and threadbare that it goes past the point of taste to almost avant-garde--something Ann D would put on the runway ten years ago.
Okay, there was one scented lover. The longest relationship, a male. He was the lone dandy of the pack. He was as bisexual/pansexual/genderqueer as I am, as I'm not into straight men (or straight women for that matter--only putting that out there, as I know some other bisexual women who enjoy that sort of conquest).
Tall, naturally light blond hair, gray eyes, sheet-white skin that blushed, a swimmer's build but with a little cute softness to his natural thinness building up from a preference for whiskey and cigarettes over any sporty nonsense. Everywhere we went, the boys would flirt with him, eyeing me piteously for being that stupid sort of girl who can't tell her man is gay...little did they know, I'm what they call a "girl fag," meaning only that I'm attracted to men who seem gay, not that silly metrosexual fakery, not sissy (I love sissy boys, but I sort of am one) but like hot ticket rent boy skinny gay. Weird? A little weird is always more fun. Perversion is a pleasure.
Anyway, my longtime lover would wear the cheap but classic Clubman Virgin Island Bay Rum--known to be used in voodoo ceremonies--as an aftershave, which made his English schoolboy look seem a bit mystical, elfin, at least dangerous.
He was very into vetivers, which I would always steal, and then he would steal my various musks--Sonoma Scent Studio Sienna Musk and a slightly aged, maybe off but all the more skankalicious Song of India Krishna Musk were THE BEST in a sexy way, I should leave it at that-- and essential oils--rose, patchouli, headshop opium oil (all that I wore as a super-strict no toiletries luxe art hippie type at the time). That kind of trading of our scents on a less naughty-essence-swapping plane was a very erotic prelude and a little but subconscious.
Eventually the boy graduated to Penhaligon's and all sorts of dandy stuff, left his thrift store skate park rockerboy threads for the more current trend of preppified simplicty, which worked on him, but I was so averse to the sudden change. An overnight transformation of this sort was like going to bed with your rock star crush and waking up with the guy your mom would set you up with through Syangogue, Mosque, Church.
Fashion tangent (skip if not into fashion): Topsiders, Ray-Bans, madras, Brooks Brothers, cuff-links, SUITS that aren't deconstructed or form-fitting. I HATE THIS TREND. It has reached far and wide. I've never liked Devendra Barnhardt but noticed on an interview on the site Stylelikeu that even he of the enormous beard and flowing locks now thinks it's really cool and special to look like a 1960s catholic school teacher with no hint of irony to the mix. Maybe it's the bad economy making people want to look rich/groomed/employable?
I was feeling like an imposter has replaced my love of over five years, the boy I'd been with since we were both eighteen, sure with us both still into the same sex and opposite sex, a weird and worthy pair. But now he was putting powder in his loafers, shoeshine, shaving!
At last the boy broke the problem cycle by strolling by in a very fetching weirdo scent one day. "WHAT isss that mmm?" "Cumming." "Indeed???" "No, it's the Alan Cumming fragrance..."
Saved by the sweet bisexual Scotsman! The flame was reignited by scent. A happy ending, well till we finally broke everything off earlier last year due to just how much whiskey he liked... which incidentally, was one of the notes in Cumming.
And back to your regularly scheduled program that does not involve my sub-Anais Nin neurotic-superficial-egocentric confessionals! Thanks to MdM for the invite to thread, and I must read the whole thing when I've the time. It's gold! Can't believe everyone's so shy as to view this thread plenty but rarely contribute ... I guess lots of us let our perfumes do the talking?
Ah and MdM, I'm thinking on your baby powder preoccupation. It's very bold and astute of you to admit to it! But I guess Francophones are usually less inhibited about admitting the imprint of attachment conditioning on the libido.
In keeping with the original intent of the thread--sex, scent, attraction...revulsion (what else is there to life!?) ...
UPFRONT: I'm bisexual, or better explained, I don't care what gender my lovers are, and am way more into what kind of person--about that I'm super picky. It's pretty acceptable these days to be bisexual, I guess, but we ladies are still fighting the doing-it-for-the-male gaze stigma...but you see I'm more prone to doing it for the male gays, more on that later.
I haven't had many scented lovers. A few of the first girls I was with wore things in high school and college: one in her mother's hand-me-down Cinnabar --which heats up and down beautifully--(ace! ace! but probably more for a man's taste, as I hear many read sex into spice on a woman), Anais Anais--which gets too incense and not enough of sensual (those ads say it all for lesbian attraction, and even Luca Turin could sense that, thick as he can be), a third girlfriend I recall using some cheap body shop jojoba thing, but it was in fact the hottest of the three to me. Yeah, that bad. I'm attracted to the hens, while I'm the peacock, to the point of being especially drawn to the most adorably clued-out sartorial messes, so minimalist and threadbare that it goes past the point of taste to almost avant-garde--something Ann D would put on the runway ten years ago.
Okay, there was one scented lover. The longest relationship, a male. He was the lone dandy of the pack. He was as bisexual/pansexual/genderqueer as I am, as I'm not into straight men (or straight women for that matter--only putting that out there, as I know some other bisexual women who enjoy that sort of conquest).
Tall, naturally light blond hair, gray eyes, sheet-white skin that blushed, a swimmer's build but with a little cute softness to his natural thinness building up from a preference for whiskey and cigarettes over any sporty nonsense. Everywhere we went, the boys would flirt with him, eyeing me piteously for being that stupid sort of girl who can't tell her man is gay...little did they know, I'm what they call a "girl fag," meaning only that I'm attracted to men who seem gay, not that silly metrosexual fakery, not sissy (I love sissy boys, but I sort of am one) but like hot ticket rent boy skinny gay. Weird? A little weird is always more fun. Perversion is a pleasure.
Anyway, my longtime lover would wear the cheap but classic Clubman Virgin Island Bay Rum--known to be used in voodoo ceremonies--as an aftershave, which made his English schoolboy look seem a bit mystical, elfin, at least dangerous.
He was very into vetivers, which I would always steal, and then he would steal my various musks--Sonoma Scent Studio Sienna Musk and a slightly aged, maybe off but all the more skankalicious Song of India Krishna Musk were THE BEST in a sexy way, I should leave it at that-- and essential oils--rose, patchouli, headshop opium oil (all that I wore as a super-strict no toiletries luxe art hippie type at the time). That kind of trading of our scents on a less naughty-essence-swapping plane was a very erotic prelude and a little but subconscious.
Eventually the boy graduated to Penhaligon's and all sorts of dandy stuff, left his thrift store skate park rockerboy threads for the more current trend of preppified simplicty, which worked on him, but I was so averse to the sudden change. An overnight transformation of this sort was like going to bed with your rock star crush and waking up with the guy your mom would set you up with through Syangogue, Mosque, Church.
Fashion tangent (skip if not into fashion): Topsiders, Ray-Bans, madras, Brooks Brothers, cuff-links, SUITS that aren't deconstructed or form-fitting. I HATE THIS TREND. It has reached far and wide. I've never liked Devendra Barnhardt but noticed on an interview on the site Stylelikeu that even he of the enormous beard and flowing locks now thinks it's really cool and special to look like a 1960s catholic school teacher with no hint of irony to the mix. Maybe it's the bad economy making people want to look rich/groomed/employable?
I was feeling like an imposter has replaced my love of over five years, the boy I'd been with since we were both eighteen, sure with us both still into the same sex and opposite sex, a weird and worthy pair. But now he was putting powder in his loafers, shoeshine, shaving!
At last the boy broke the problem cycle by strolling by in a very fetching weirdo scent one day. "WHAT isss that mmm?" "Cumming." "Indeed???" "No, it's the Alan Cumming fragrance..."
Saved by the sweet bisexual Scotsman! The flame was reignited by scent. A happy ending, well till we finally broke everything off earlier last year due to just how much whiskey he liked... which incidentally, was one of the notes in Cumming.
And back to your regularly scheduled program that does not involve my sub-Anais Nin neurotic-superficial-egocentric confessionals! Thanks to MdM for the invite to thread, and I must read the whole thing when I've the time. It's gold! Can't believe everyone's so shy as to view this thread plenty but rarely contribute ... I guess lots of us let our perfumes do the talking?
Ah and MdM, I'm thinking on your baby powder preoccupation. It's very bold and astute of you to admit to it! But I guess Francophones are usually less inhibited about admitting the imprint of attachment conditioning on the libido.
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OUR SAVIOUR HAS ARRIVED: WELCOME, ANOMIE ET IVOIRE!!!!!! PRAISE! PRAISE! PRAISE!
Can any of you BELIEVE THIS? Ok, yes, I admit it: I had to go out, spend HOURS, find her, secretly follow her around, and then force-enshroud her in my scented comforter, which, incidentally, smells like Habanita, then INSIST that she join our pack. We NEED HER!!!!!! -SO: All of you please say hello and welcome the new FEMALE EQUIVALENT TO ME: Our very own:
ANEMONE ET IVOIRE!!!!!!!!
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A&I! A&I! A&I!
WELCOME!!!!.......TO THE PLEASUREDOME.
Can any of you BELIEVE THIS? Ok, yes, I admit it: I had to go out, spend HOURS, find her, secretly follow her around, and then force-enshroud her in my scented comforter, which, incidentally, smells like Habanita, then INSIST that she join our pack. We NEED HER!!!!!! -SO: All of you please say hello and welcome the new FEMALE EQUIVALENT TO ME: Our very own:
ANEMONE ET IVOIRE!!!!!!!!
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WELCOME!!!!.......TO THE PLEASUREDOME.
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Indeed - a big welcome, anomie et ivoire!
(Well, not as BIG as MdM's welcome, but then that surely wouldn't be right, as long-time followers of this thread surely know!
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Enjoyed your first contribution greatly, and looking forward to many more!
(Well, not as BIG as MdM's welcome, but then that surely wouldn't be right, as long-time followers of this thread surely know!
)Enjoyed your first contribution greatly, and looking forward to many more!

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Welcome, Anomie et Ivoire!!! 
Where have you been???!!
Thank goodness you have arrived!

That was me!! I often liked to go out deliberately un-sexy, in any old baggy clothes, maybe a too large mannish pantsuit (1980s), or a thrift shop dress (once I went out in my girlfriend's boyfriend's flannel bathrobe), no makeup, hair up in a sloppy bun or ponytail, just so I could dance and have fun without being hit on by horny males...and then it was the women who wooed me! I'd forgotten about that. At first I couldn't believe anybody, male or female, would want to hit on me - I just wanted to dance and be left alone - I really was clueless. The nice thing was that the women were always too cool to get grabby or gross or pissed off like the fellas. The just "got it".
I don't think you can go out dressed like that anymore, or at least not that I've noticed. You wouldn't be allowed in. You must look like Snooki or somebody.
adding: I'm not really *here*, as I am taking a hiatus. I just wanted to stop by and say hello and welcome. A&I, I am enjoying your posts. It's good to see you here where you belong.
I will be back after I've had my break.

Where have you been???!!
Thank goodness you have arrived!

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...to the point of being especially drawn to the most adorably clued-out sartorial messes, so minimalist and threadbare that it goes past the point of taste to almost avant-garde--something Ann D would put on the runway ten years ago.
That was me!! I often liked to go out deliberately un-sexy, in any old baggy clothes, maybe a too large mannish pantsuit (1980s), or a thrift shop dress (once I went out in my girlfriend's boyfriend's flannel bathrobe), no makeup, hair up in a sloppy bun or ponytail, just so I could dance and have fun without being hit on by horny males...and then it was the women who wooed me! I'd forgotten about that. At first I couldn't believe anybody, male or female, would want to hit on me - I just wanted to dance and be left alone - I really was clueless. The nice thing was that the women were always too cool to get grabby or gross or pissed off like the fellas. The just "got it".
I don't think you can go out dressed like that anymore, or at least not that I've noticed. You wouldn't be allowed in. You must look like Snooki or somebody.adding: I'm not really *here*, as I am taking a hiatus. I just wanted to stop by and say hello and welcome. A&I, I am enjoying your posts. It's good to see you here where you belong.
I will be back after I've had my break.
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Welcome, Anomie et Ivoire !
So glad to see you here, and I too am looking forward to more of your posts!
( Hi, lilybelle, who isn't really here! )
So glad to see you here, and I too am looking forward to more of your posts!

( Hi, lilybelle, who isn't really here! )
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Welcome A & I! I am currently en route back to US on the deck of a boat paying outrageous money for intenet minutes! I am looking forward to more awesome posts like the one above.
The Fendi glasses I found have a buckle-type type decoration on the sides, not F...FYI
Also, Le MdM you put Banana boat suntan lotion on YOUR FACE?
The Fendi glasses I found have a buckle-type type decoration on the sides, not F...FYI
Also, Le MdM you put Banana boat suntan lotion on YOUR FACE?
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Why, yes: Absolutely: If I am in Hawaii, or anywhere near a beach, I 100% put Banana Boat 100spf sunscreen on my face, and everywhere. I have to: Nothing else works. (plus, they have it at ABC) Typically, I use Sisley "All Day All Year" on my face and hands, but if on a boat, or near water, this just doesn't do the job, and neither do any of the expensive ones: You have to dive into the masses and go "Coppertone," or "Neutragena," or....gasp....Banana Boat: I can say I have *NEVER* had a break out. I have, though, with Lancome as well as with La Roche-Posay. All Day All Year is a "sun shield," it does not use SPF technology. While I wear it anyway, under the full blown sunscreen, it just would never do for high radiance sun exposure. It's more for: "Limo-to-door" type exposure. (or...ehm....subway to door, as it were.) Now, I know Lillybelle isn't "here," and in reality I'm not "here" either--none of us are--as this is all a dream, remember? But as for being "here" or "there," I have surmised there's one place I'm sure I won't be very often and that is those frustrated testosterone fueled Male Fragrance Forums. What a bunch of ------- those lot are. Fill in your own blank. (It could say "Lovely Gents," you know.) Why, if it weren't for Dr. R-P, there would be no sense whatsoever to their discussions. Panty Droppers. Compliments. First Dates. No wonder these men are forever on first dates. Can you imagine entertaining the thought that your fragrance would entice anyone to drop their pants, or panties, or drop anything? (Except maybe a vod-soda-lime on your head because you reek of "Coolwater"?) I mayn't have left my house but once in two weeks but I did do some BN exploration--while it worked--of course--which wasn't often--I had to in order to find, then lure in our newest initiate Anomie et Ivoire: I was on a mission. But, do you know that of all the male posters that spend their days "on the other side" I couldn't find ONE I fancied inviting? We already have the cream of the crop on the male side of things I'm afraid. As they say, ladies, a good man is hard to find. I've yet tomorrow, Monday, to separate me from the Salt Mine of toil....Interestingly, I'm quite refreshed and my house looks perfectly in order: Tomorrow I've merely to put a final run of Hoover about the whole place and I shall officially then live in a beautiful home again and not in a storage unit with dark "formal rooms" attached that never get used and are covered in dust and spider webs. I proudly report that I changed the bag FOUR times on my Hoover: there was that much dust on the floor and everywhere else. I feel as though I am living in a palace now, as opposed to camping in some hippie commune, nesting in clothes. Do you know what the bulk of the rubbish was, other than dirty dishes, dirty clothes, and mountains of unopened mail? Boxes from e-bay with perfume in them. They were EVERYWHERE. I have made good on my vow to "use with abandon" (WE ALL SHOULD!!!!!) as, for instance, yesterday I sprayed myself lavishly with Amouage Gold Man--which by the way is divine and lasts indefinitely--and today, after a bath, I found myself dripping in English Fern, reminded of my tender youth. (This was my very first perfume.) I wanted to serve tea to my collection of teddy bears. As of Tuesday, I shall be using so much Jicky that many of you might smell a faint whiff of it mysteriously out of nowhere as I do intend to perfume the entire planet with it, merely because I have walked upon it. No more of this spritz here, spritz there nonsense: My resolution is Nuclear Strength Fire Wall of Fragrance. I don't care if people with allergies sneeze: If the hoards in front of the Irish bars can all be puffing away on their malboro Lights, I can use 250ml of Jicky in one day, and I will. On tuesday, when, out of nowhere, you turn a corner, and a faint whiff of jicky is detected on the summer wind, you'll know I've made good on my promise.
REMEMBER, READERS! USE WITH ABANDON!!!!!!!!!
(for tomorrow, we know not what cometh)
REMEMBER, READERS! USE WITH ABANDON!!!!!!!!!
(for tomorrow, we know not what cometh)
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Cheers all around, sweetie darlings. Passing around the Bolly with Pom Wonderful, Pompagne. Persephone ascends from Hades. It's soo not like a Cosmo.
And pourqoi, Monsieur, is Anomie et Ivoire denoted in this dark ash blonde script--the dreaded DAB that only MdM can pull off? Are my roots showing so much? Or is it another nod to my hopeless 70s Halston ultrasuede air? I am not suuuch a mouse.
Anomie et Ivoire wants to be green-vent vert--she is a budding chypre lover. Wow, did I just indulge in illeism--what hanging around a bunch of lily-white-handed decadents will do. MdM lured me here with lies, lies and deceit. "Why yes, Mademoiselle, I do know where the wormhole to 1977 NYC is..." Just as well, I'm honored to be chilling with some of the best of BN.
Lilybelle, lovely seeing you here, and in that studiedly understated style, women are the sexiest when they don't know they're being sexy, as your point proves. And also to Fleurine, Perfumisto, and Inga, thanks for the warm welcome, and excuse the prattle--I'll grow accustomed to the way things are done around here soon. But to have missed Air MdM!? I burn scads of Avignon in penance.
And of course The Pleasuredome brings to mind Kenneth Anger and all of his flaws and wonders, but this clip of his fits MdM's recent brush with two week agoraphobia undercut by traveling galaxies fueled by 'fumes and style. It's a silly-pretty and disturbing short (skip to 1:22 or 2:00 if you don't care to watch a bunch of vintage gowns dancing):
My only brush with Use With Abandon: I had bought secondhand an old half-emptied (pessimist!) 50 ml of Borneo 1834, and while a little less than sober the other day upset the entire contents on my bed. Before that I had some fondness for the scent but thought it unwearable. Now my room will reek of Borneo for some time, and it really works as a room spray, since I'm of a crunchy leaning. An interloper wondered what drug I was on that smelled like that. To use with abandon, even in accident! Sadly Lutens comps are only working as atmosphere for me so far.
Since I'm cursed with being attracted to brown hen men and unscented ladies, I've been poking at some friends about what they wear.wore.like in bed and out. Mind you, none of these people is a perfume fiend, each only having heard of maybe Shalimar and Chanel 5. Hope I can dig up some dirt, which my Borneo-soaked house is redolent of, and my nose is back to the grindstone.
Exiting the thread, I stumble over bottles and bottles, spilling yet again, *making it rain the Guerlain of your choice all around.* Back to the salt mines today ... at least we're stinking them up.
And pourqoi, Monsieur, is Anomie et Ivoire denoted in this dark ash blonde script--the dreaded DAB that only MdM can pull off? Are my roots showing so much? Or is it another nod to my hopeless 70s Halston ultrasuede air? I am not suuuch a mouse.
Anomie et Ivoire wants to be green-vent vert--she is a budding chypre lover. Wow, did I just indulge in illeism--what hanging around a bunch of lily-white-handed decadents will do. MdM lured me here with lies, lies and deceit. "Why yes, Mademoiselle, I do know where the wormhole to 1977 NYC is..." Just as well, I'm honored to be chilling with some of the best of BN.
Lilybelle, lovely seeing you here, and in that studiedly understated style, women are the sexiest when they don't know they're being sexy, as your point proves. And also to Fleurine, Perfumisto, and Inga, thanks for the warm welcome, and excuse the prattle--I'll grow accustomed to the way things are done around here soon. But to have missed Air MdM!? I burn scads of Avignon in penance.
And of course The Pleasuredome brings to mind Kenneth Anger and all of his flaws and wonders, but this clip of his fits MdM's recent brush with two week agoraphobia undercut by traveling galaxies fueled by 'fumes and style. It's a silly-pretty and disturbing short (skip to 1:22 or 2:00 if you don't care to watch a bunch of vintage gowns dancing):
My only brush with Use With Abandon: I had bought secondhand an old half-emptied (pessimist!) 50 ml of Borneo 1834, and while a little less than sober the other day upset the entire contents on my bed. Before that I had some fondness for the scent but thought it unwearable. Now my room will reek of Borneo for some time, and it really works as a room spray, since I'm of a crunchy leaning. An interloper wondered what drug I was on that smelled like that. To use with abandon, even in accident! Sadly Lutens comps are only working as atmosphere for me so far.
Since I'm cursed with being attracted to brown hen men and unscented ladies, I've been poking at some friends about what they wear.wore.like in bed and out. Mind you, none of these people is a perfume fiend, each only having heard of maybe Shalimar and Chanel 5. Hope I can dig up some dirt, which my Borneo-soaked house is redolent of, and my nose is back to the grindstone.
Exiting the thread, I stumble over bottles and bottles, spilling yet again, *making it rain the Guerlain of your choice all around.* Back to the salt mines today ... at least we're stinking them up.
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I suppose you've a point there, however, in the picture above, I find that, if red shoes were in order, I think I would have actually preferred something bumped up a notch: Just red pumps.....for me.....not a big deal: I would go with a more fetich-inspired style, perhaps with a high platform, and ankle-to-knee straps, with buckles: Something a bit more Vivienne Westwood. My reasoning runs thus: Given the nature of the picture, the appropriate shoes must need echo the the overall effect of the image, which, you will admit, is *slightly* O.T.T.....as it should be--but if this bird's going to wear RED SHOES with that....ehm....ensemble of smoke.....I would expect them to be more......remarkable. That is merely my opinion, of course. I do encourage red shoes in almost all instances, with the exception of ones that contain ANY OTHER DETAIL that might be red, save for lips. I do this quite often: My entire outfit is all in my signature "dun" colours, and my shoes, defying logic, just happen to be SCREAMING RED. I have a really swell pair of Pierre Hardy's that are the brightest, most impossibly red pig suede anyone might imagine and they pump up the volume when worn "as if by accident." --As long as the outfit isn't black-- Red + Black = so common. Red + Brown, on the other hand, I love. I also love Red + Dun, or even Red + Navy or violet. I just love red. Red is my absolute favourite colour of all time: No question. I have *always* been enamored with red. A friend of mine, who is a noted astrologer--quite well known in Britain--(she has a clientele including members of the Royal Family) explained to me that this squares perfectly with my astrological profile, which is....ehm.....Aries with.....something rising: I can't remember. I'm no fan of astrology. For me it's so much voodoo. I also wear a ruby signet ring on my right ring finger--a chaumet one--very simple with a ceylon pigeon blood ruby--that was my maternal uncle's: This is my *always there* "touche de rouge" which--I firmly believe in: One should always wear a tiny touch of red....no matter what. Speaking of the scarlet sin, This morning I broke my vow: I bought a bottle of knize ten. I remembered that I am presently without one--as the one I had I used up and tossed in the bin ages and ages ago, and I remembered it went well with leather biker jackets. As I was taking stock of my collection of these, I could detect a whiff of it in the lining of my brown John Galliano one. I feel somewhat sinful to have broken my vow and am compelled to rush off to confess--as I am doing now--but, don't you all agree--one should never be without at least one bottle of Knize Ten--and it's not as if I have 30 bottles in the cave! (This is how I talked myself into the gesture) There is another scent that is a DIVINE leather: That is "Rien" by Etat Libre d'Orange "RIEN." (This is the only scent in their library of oddities that appeals to me) Remember? It smells EXACTLY like that $128,000.00US elephant coloured biker jacket I tried on at Hermes, and, naturally, had to hand back to the SA, who was certain she had a live one captive in the fitting room. Why is it that when you try on these "impossible" things, they *always* fit, and you *always* want them? I remember staring at myself in it in the mirror thinking: "Why are you so perfect?" (addressing the jacket, of course) But I'm afraid I draw the line at $128,000.00 single articles of clothing: I should think I would much rather spend that sum on a pied a terre somewhere--somewhere unlikely--like, say, hmmmmm: I don't know....Bordeaux maybe?
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ANOMIE ET IVOIRE
is "Vent Vert," by Balmain. However--Germaine Cellier would never have dared proposing Vent Vert to Monsieur Balmain had Henri Almeras not proposed Vacances to the very-soon-to-be-dead Jean Patou: This is the first of its kind of unapologetic, RAVING GREEN Jonquil-soaked chypres: Sadly, impossible to find: When I think of the....perhaps hundreds of bottles...I bought and supplied to my Aunt Marie-Helene who makes a signature of it, I could scream that I never kept even one for myself: SHE still has a stock of at least 5 to ten bottles--I have none but a collection of at least twenty empty ones with their green glass marble stopper--when one of these hits e-bay, it goes for upwards of $700.00US. The true inspiration behind "Vacances" was an unwitting Leon Blum, who was a French Jewish Socialist: First ever of either category to be President of France. One of the things he did was introduce, in 1935, obligatory "conges payes" (paid holiday) to French workers. In celebration of this monumental gesture, "Vacances" was created. (Vacances means "Vacation" in French) On a more modern note, I must try this....Pompagne.....even though I detest champagne. Got sick on it one too many times at Uni. It does sound enticing. A&I, you must read ALL of AIR MDM in order to understand this thread, which is born out of it: You may very well miraculously appear on it yet, as this thread is merely a dream I am having while on it, trapped in the on-board Hammam-turned-bath-house, originally called the "AMYTHIST MIST HAMMAM," then changed and redecorated over the course of the flight to:
MIKE
When I *finally* wake up, you may just find a FIRST CLASS boarding pass under your Borneo-scented pillow.....AIR MDM is an *by invitation only* thread.
If you read the thread, it will all make sense......
I suppose you've a point there, however, in the picture above, I find that, if red shoes were in order, I think I would have actually preferred something bumped up a notch: Just red pumps.....for me.....not a big deal: I would go with a more fetich-inspired style, perhaps with a high platform, and ankle-to-knee straps, with buckles: Something a bit more Vivienne Westwood. My reasoning runs thus: Given the nature of the picture, the appropriate shoes must need echo the the overall effect of the image, which, you will admit, is *slightly* O.T.T.....as it should be--but if this bird's going to wear RED SHOES with that....ehm....ensemble of smoke.....I would expect them to be more......remarkable. That is merely my opinion, of course. I do encourage red shoes in almost all instances, with the exception of ones that contain ANY OTHER DETAIL that might be red, save for lips. I do this quite often: My entire outfit is all in my signature "dun" colours, and my shoes, defying logic, just happen to be SCREAMING RED. I have a really swell pair of Pierre Hardy's that are the brightest, most impossibly red pig suede anyone might imagine and they pump up the volume when worn "as if by accident." --As long as the outfit isn't black-- Red + Black = so common. Red + Brown, on the other hand, I love. I also love Red + Dun, or even Red + Navy or violet. I just love red. Red is my absolute favourite colour of all time: No question. I have *always* been enamored with red. A friend of mine, who is a noted astrologer--quite well known in Britain--(she has a clientele including members of the Royal Family) explained to me that this squares perfectly with my astrological profile, which is....ehm.....Aries with.....something rising: I can't remember. I'm no fan of astrology. For me it's so much voodoo. I also wear a ruby signet ring on my right ring finger--a chaumet one--very simple with a ceylon pigeon blood ruby--that was my maternal uncle's: This is my *always there* "touche de rouge" which--I firmly believe in: One should always wear a tiny touch of red....no matter what. Speaking of the scarlet sin, This morning I broke my vow: I bought a bottle of knize ten. I remembered that I am presently without one--as the one I had I used up and tossed in the bin ages and ages ago, and I remembered it went well with leather biker jackets. As I was taking stock of my collection of these, I could detect a whiff of it in the lining of my brown John Galliano one. I feel somewhat sinful to have broken my vow and am compelled to rush off to confess--as I am doing now--but, don't you all agree--one should never be without at least one bottle of Knize Ten--and it's not as if I have 30 bottles in the cave! (This is how I talked myself into the gesture) There is another scent that is a DIVINE leather: That is "Rien" by Etat Libre d'Orange "RIEN." (This is the only scent in their library of oddities that appeals to me) Remember? It smells EXACTLY like that $128,000.00US elephant coloured biker jacket I tried on at Hermes, and, naturally, had to hand back to the SA, who was certain she had a live one captive in the fitting room. Why is it that when you try on these "impossible" things, they *always* fit, and you *always* want them? I remember staring at myself in it in the mirror thinking: "Why are you so perfect?" (addressing the jacket, of course) But I'm afraid I draw the line at $128,000.00 single articles of clothing: I should think I would much rather spend that sum on a pied a terre somewhere--somewhere unlikely--like, say, hmmmmm: I don't know....Bordeaux maybe?
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OK: So it is:
ANOMIE ET IVOIRE
is "Vent Vert," by Balmain. However--Germaine Cellier would never have dared proposing Vent Vert to Monsieur Balmain had Henri Almeras not proposed Vacances to the very-soon-to-be-dead Jean Patou: This is the first of its kind of unapologetic, RAVING GREEN Jonquil-soaked chypres: Sadly, impossible to find: When I think of the....perhaps hundreds of bottles...I bought and supplied to my Aunt Marie-Helene who makes a signature of it, I could scream that I never kept even one for myself: SHE still has a stock of at least 5 to ten bottles--I have none but a collection of at least twenty empty ones with their green glass marble stopper--when one of these hits e-bay, it goes for upwards of $700.00US. The true inspiration behind "Vacances" was an unwitting Leon Blum, who was a French Jewish Socialist: First ever of either category to be President of France. One of the things he did was introduce, in 1935, obligatory "conges payes" (paid holiday) to French workers. In celebration of this monumental gesture, "Vacances" was created. (Vacances means "Vacation" in French) On a more modern note, I must try this....Pompagne.....even though I detest champagne. Got sick on it one too many times at Uni. It does sound enticing. A&I, you must read ALL of AIR MDM in order to understand this thread, which is born out of it: You may very well miraculously appear on it yet, as this thread is merely a dream I am having while on it, trapped in the on-board Hammam-turned-bath-house, originally called the "AMYTHIST MIST HAMMAM," then changed and redecorated over the course of the flight to:
MIKE
When I *finally* wake up, you may just find a FIRST CLASS boarding pass under your Borneo-scented pillow.....AIR MDM is an *by invitation only* thread.
If you read the thread, it will all make sense......
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7/16/12 at 11:56am
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'allo, 'allo and all that... I thought using a green might make me feel a little cooler today. I don't think it worked, but it did rain 
I must admit, yesterday I gave in and crashed - I had been relatively busy in the heat, but as of yesterday, noooooo...
I had lovely siestas off and on all day. I did my best at putting up my own nuclear strength firewall with the wonderful Habanita which arrived a few days ago. It's beyond wonderful, and I always think to myself, Why!? did I wait so long to have this potion!? Thanks to you lMdM, well, now I can't think - what is the male version of temptress? ...coming up with all of these perfumes that we simply must have..and I am perfectly delighted that you do....
MdM, you brought up the men's forum. I have a peek in there once in awhile, and indeed there are no end of new posts asking the same old thing about first dates, possible dates, skanky parts, panty droppers, over and over again. And again. The men over there should know - if they have to ask those questions - it's damn near hopeless to get a date like that, or if they do, to get them to whoo-hoo! drop the panties. Now the very occasional post like that is entertaining, no - maybe not.
Now the Creed "Affair", is quite the thing. I wouldn't touch those post with a ten foot pole, I could care less about Creed, really. I loved your take on it MdM. Do they ever get fired up over there!
Looks like I'll spend a little more time on ebay later today, and see what trouble I can get into...
Lilybelle, Anomie et Ivoire, RP, Fleurine, and of course, lMdM - all of us who really aren't here - see you in a bit -
( say, where's Rubegon these days?? )

I must admit, yesterday I gave in and crashed - I had been relatively busy in the heat, but as of yesterday, noooooo...
I had lovely siestas off and on all day. I did my best at putting up my own nuclear strength firewall with the wonderful Habanita which arrived a few days ago. It's beyond wonderful, and I always think to myself, Why!? did I wait so long to have this potion!? Thanks to you lMdM, well, now I can't think - what is the male version of temptress? ...coming up with all of these perfumes that we simply must have..and I am perfectly delighted that you do....
MdM, you brought up the men's forum. I have a peek in there once in awhile, and indeed there are no end of new posts asking the same old thing about first dates, possible dates, skanky parts, panty droppers, over and over again. And again. The men over there should know - if they have to ask those questions - it's damn near hopeless to get a date like that, or if they do, to get them to whoo-hoo! drop the panties. Now the very occasional post like that is entertaining, no - maybe not.

Now the Creed "Affair", is quite the thing. I wouldn't touch those post with a ten foot pole, I could care less about Creed, really. I loved your take on it MdM. Do they ever get fired up over there!
Looks like I'll spend a little more time on ebay later today, and see what trouble I can get into...
Lilybelle, Anomie et Ivoire, RP, Fleurine, and of course, lMdM - all of us who really aren't here - see you in a bit -
( say, where's Rubegon these days?? )
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YEAH: Where IS Rubegone? Now see here, Rube: You needn't come up with some XXX-rated recounting to pop over and say hello! We all miss you. Bloody Hell--that "CREED" affair: Can you imagine? Counseling me on French History, laws, and asking "If I remember my Proust?" ("and no paragraph breaks!") I'm sure you all detected the famous MDM ire bubbling over--though--you all must admit: I *did* control myself! All of you might imagine with little difficulty what I was wont to write, rather than what I did. (I was content enough to use the term "half-baked.") Now--you know--we mustn't ever even MENTION creed. If we so much as MENTION creed--we may well be shut down and banned: That is the word on the street. At any rate--why would WE, of all people deign to waste our finger engery (other than to....ehm....never mind) to be discussing THAT? NOTE TO ALL: MDM THREADS SPECIFICALLY PROHIBIT THE MERE MENTION OF CREED FROM TODAY FORWARD. Our code word for Cre....ehm...them will be: "That Pierre Premier de Serbie Lot," this way, we'll escape the BN Cre....ehm...them....monitoring which entails banishment to nether regions if the subject is even brought up. Mods: We are *NOT* discussing it. (Again: WHY would we?) On another note, Inga, that video posted above by our new National Heroine ANOMIE ET IVOIRE, reminded me of......YOU! Was it not the very reminiscence of your getting ready for that party we had on AIR MDM, remember? -minus the Galliano Feather Head Dress I sent over, of course.-- Now: Was I right? HOW DIVINE IS THAT NEW HABANITA?!?! We have here PROOF that a re-form can actually IMPROVE upon the original--and as I have said before--THAT, my Dears, was *not just any original.* I have a feeling I know why we haven't heard from Rubegon: As I understand it, Aphrodite has gone wild with HABANITA, and is now.....USING WIH ABANDON.....so what would any fine red-blooded male be doing in an instance such as that? Pondering on panty droppers? I think not.....
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7/16/12 at 6:28pm
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Let's talk about Sex, Baby. Now I just sprayed on some Vintage Vent Vert PdT, and the gardenia note is nice...But, sexy? well, I guess if you are into the outdoorsy girl scout leader type, then maybe, but the mossy green note is also a bit bitter. And le MdM isn't oakmoss on the "what not to wear list" for most blonds? And redheads? I am also on the fair side, but fall more on the freckly/redhead/green eyed Irish Lass type spetrum, I think.
I have heard we are "not to wear" green scents, but do I care? Not a whit.
Thank you for buying Knize Ten right after taking the "I am never buying another bottle of perfume oath."
Inga and le MdM can you believe I have never smelled a single bottle of that Pierre Premier de Serbie lot? Walked past the counter every time, just because I don't care for the bottles.
My husband is leaving for Asia tomorrow for 2 months...so it's going to be just me and my perfume, and my cats.
Thanks for the video Ivoire! I love that that lady went through all those dresses when she already had shoes and a bag picked out in sea green.
I guess I'll be doing things like that until. september....
Come on Redneck and Rubegon...you promised stories....even made up ones are ok....
I have heard we are "not to wear" green scents, but do I care? Not a whit.
Thank you for buying Knize Ten right after taking the "I am never buying another bottle of perfume oath."
Inga and le MdM can you believe I have never smelled a single bottle of that Pierre Premier de Serbie lot? Walked past the counter every time, just because I don't care for the bottles.
My husband is leaving for Asia tomorrow for 2 months...so it's going to be just me and my perfume, and my cats.
Thanks for the video Ivoire! I love that that lady went through all those dresses when she already had shoes and a bag picked out in sea green.
I guess I'll be doing things like that until. september....
Come on Redneck and Rubegon...you promised stories....even made up ones are ok....
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OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! SOMEONE GOT ALL HOT AND HEAVY IN PERU!
Vent Vert is something of a mystery: It is a Germaine Cellier scent, and all of her comps are challenging. It was a kind of signature she had. *the only* time she was kept very distinctly under control was when she did two scents for Nina Ricci--fille d'eve and coeur-joie: We know what that gave: EXTREME DREAMINESS. Now--extreme dreaminess sounds good--but, Fleurine--you know as well as I what I mean here by *extreme.* The dreaminess approaches Lewis Carrollonian proportions in these two contexts. If your bottle of Vent Vert is square, it's a reformulated/re-created/re-worked "version" that got launched around....ehm....I want to say in the early nineties. It *sort* of resembles the original--but the original is packaged exactly like the old "Miss Balmain" and "Jolie Madame" were, (except: Surprise! it's GREEN!) -all Germaine Cellier comps- and it is exceedingly hard to find: It's Galbanum that you are smelling in Vent Vert--not oakmoss. Galbanum is a very "metallic" green scent--almost like cut grass--it's quite, ehm, aggressive. I would imagine "Childhood Services," as portrayed by Tilda Swinton in MOONRISE KINGDOM smelled a bit like this: Or else--SOMEONE DID--I agree with you: Not really sexy, Baby. The original, mind, was almost "You Tarzan. Me Jane." It was a bit "funkier." When they re-launched it, they removed a very noticeable bed of castoreum--beaver musk--which had for effect precisely the same as would occur if you took the civet--cat musk--out of Jicky: It made it slightly twee and bordering on "prell concentrate shampoo." A sexier "green" scent--perfect on a blond-- is Chamade. Even in its current wasser water incarnation, it still holds up. One step deeper, you have "Sous le Vent." Deeper still, you have the sultry "Vol de Nuit," So you see here you go from a romp in an English Forest all the way to a plain crash in a remote island in the Bermuda triangle (Vol de Nuit) Thin skin *does not* like heavy resins, and sirupy woods: These are HUGE molecules that have nowhere to go on thin skin, so they sit and wander around and speak to each other, all asking directions, while they die a slow death. The latest "Oud" craze? So not for thin skin: Oud, and pretty much all wood oil based scents, are just not happy campers on paperwhite skins--there's no depth--to the skin I mean--so there's nowhere for these GIANT molecules to hide out: Exposed to the air, they die an agonizing death and seem to scream "I'M MELTING!" while doing it. I, for example, *will not* be spraying my bottle of Knize ten on my body: It goes in the cotton linings of my biker jackets, and on the leather cushions on the floor in my home. I would *never* put something like that on my skin. You can spray your "Vent Vert" on a bit of fake chinese silk Ivy, or something.......
Vent Vert is something of a mystery: It is a Germaine Cellier scent, and all of her comps are challenging. It was a kind of signature she had. *the only* time she was kept very distinctly under control was when she did two scents for Nina Ricci--fille d'eve and coeur-joie: We know what that gave: EXTREME DREAMINESS. Now--extreme dreaminess sounds good--but, Fleurine--you know as well as I what I mean here by *extreme.* The dreaminess approaches Lewis Carrollonian proportions in these two contexts. If your bottle of Vent Vert is square, it's a reformulated/re-created/re-worked "version" that got launched around....ehm....I want to say in the early nineties. It *sort* of resembles the original--but the original is packaged exactly like the old "Miss Balmain" and "Jolie Madame" were, (except: Surprise! it's GREEN!) -all Germaine Cellier comps- and it is exceedingly hard to find: It's Galbanum that you are smelling in Vent Vert--not oakmoss. Galbanum is a very "metallic" green scent--almost like cut grass--it's quite, ehm, aggressive. I would imagine "Childhood Services," as portrayed by Tilda Swinton in MOONRISE KINGDOM smelled a bit like this: Or else--SOMEONE DID--I agree with you: Not really sexy, Baby. The original, mind, was almost "You Tarzan. Me Jane." It was a bit "funkier." When they re-launched it, they removed a very noticeable bed of castoreum--beaver musk--which had for effect precisely the same as would occur if you took the civet--cat musk--out of Jicky: It made it slightly twee and bordering on "prell concentrate shampoo." A sexier "green" scent--perfect on a blond-- is Chamade. Even in its current wasser water incarnation, it still holds up. One step deeper, you have "Sous le Vent." Deeper still, you have the sultry "Vol de Nuit," So you see here you go from a romp in an English Forest all the way to a plain crash in a remote island in the Bermuda triangle (Vol de Nuit) Thin skin *does not* like heavy resins, and sirupy woods: These are HUGE molecules that have nowhere to go on thin skin, so they sit and wander around and speak to each other, all asking directions, while they die a slow death. The latest "Oud" craze? So not for thin skin: Oud, and pretty much all wood oil based scents, are just not happy campers on paperwhite skins--there's no depth--to the skin I mean--so there's nowhere for these GIANT molecules to hide out: Exposed to the air, they die an agonizing death and seem to scream "I'M MELTING!" while doing it. I, for example, *will not* be spraying my bottle of Knize ten on my body: It goes in the cotton linings of my biker jackets, and on the leather cushions on the floor in my home. I would *never* put something like that on my skin. You can spray your "Vent Vert" on a bit of fake chinese silk Ivy, or something.......
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7/16/12 at 8:50pm
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Oh but Fleurine, Vent Vert has a high-pitched Tinkerbelle Sapphic chic kind of sexiness.
A Don't Touch Me, I'll Touch You With My Mind kind of thing. White Witch, green fairy--but not in that absinthe way. Most any Germaine Cellier comp reeks of insoucient sexiness to me, even in the early 90s Vent Vert (pre-absolute-shite new formulation) that I have--but Cellier was a lesbian herself, so probably holds that appeal for sapphic and bi-sapphics and--let's face it--plenty of men actually have very lesbian tastes (particularly submissive ones).
Not to verge on panty-dropper convo, but I recall reading in several posts that many men remark upon the pleasingness of Vent Vert, too, even in reform. When I've worn it, a sort of ice princess effect takes over. During sex? Definitely not. It's an unconscious seduction perfume for the everyday. Do the French have a word for that? Vent Vert is singular and sharp, and that alerts the love object's brain to possibilities. A wake-up call.
And hey, I formed some beautiful friendships in Girl Scouts (11 years of it). But we were a bit more like Troop Beverly Hills. Absolutely nothing to do with my predilections though, sorry to disappoint.
And my minimal experience so far agrees with MdM that Chamade is perfect for pale, delicate girls, evoking a certain archness and late 60s sex goddess earthiness.
Chypres on silks and soft cottons, I like. All of these seemingly asexual/epicene chypres are sexy in the way David Hamilton's (less teentastic) photos are, or the Emmanuelle films, or a flapper or hippie chick dancing stoned in a lace dress and bare feet.
I will concede that they're not the heavy hitters or go-to sex perfumes by any means, so perhaps change my color back to DAB, MdM. Vent Vert is so not what I should be wafting for Sex and the Sillage.
More about how these Alice in Wonderland Grows-up Nina Riccis seduce, please. The two Celliers are on my test-list, and being of my weird tastes, I can't quite understand how a girly floral can be irresistible (in spite of reading MdM's fab reviews).
A Don't Touch Me, I'll Touch You With My Mind kind of thing. White Witch, green fairy--but not in that absinthe way. Most any Germaine Cellier comp reeks of insoucient sexiness to me, even in the early 90s Vent Vert (pre-absolute-shite new formulation) that I have--but Cellier was a lesbian herself, so probably holds that appeal for sapphic and bi-sapphics and--let's face it--plenty of men actually have very lesbian tastes (particularly submissive ones).
Not to verge on panty-dropper convo, but I recall reading in several posts that many men remark upon the pleasingness of Vent Vert, too, even in reform. When I've worn it, a sort of ice princess effect takes over. During sex? Definitely not. It's an unconscious seduction perfume for the everyday. Do the French have a word for that? Vent Vert is singular and sharp, and that alerts the love object's brain to possibilities. A wake-up call.
And hey, I formed some beautiful friendships in Girl Scouts (11 years of it). But we were a bit more like Troop Beverly Hills. Absolutely nothing to do with my predilections though, sorry to disappoint.
And my minimal experience so far agrees with MdM that Chamade is perfect for pale, delicate girls, evoking a certain archness and late 60s sex goddess earthiness.
Chypres on silks and soft cottons, I like. All of these seemingly asexual/epicene chypres are sexy in the way David Hamilton's (less teentastic) photos are, or the Emmanuelle films, or a flapper or hippie chick dancing stoned in a lace dress and bare feet.
I will concede that they're not the heavy hitters or go-to sex perfumes by any means, so perhaps change my color back to DAB, MdM. Vent Vert is so not what I should be wafting for Sex and the Sillage.
More about how these Alice in Wonderland Grows-up Nina Riccis seduce, please. The two Celliers are on my test-list, and being of my weird tastes, I can't quite understand how a girly floral can be irresistible (in spite of reading MdM's fab reviews).
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7/16/12 at 11:01pm
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Wow - I've missed a lot. It took me 30 minutes to get caught up! Sorry I've been absent - work stuff, excuses, blah, blah, blah...
Anyway - a belated welcome, A&I. Your posts were great fun to read - you seem to be a very quick study. It's great to have you here.
MdM - I was about to reply to your oath never to buy another bottle of perfume with the single word "bullshit" (or should that be 2 words?) - but you had already broken your vow. I'll have to act faster the next time you make it.
Fleurine - I tried to come up with something, but failed - no juicy story that has anything to do with perfume. The only thing ...
When I was young, I fell for a girl pretty hard. She was beautiful - sort of a scaled up pixie with big brown eyes, short chestnut brown hair, long legs, and a kind but fickle heart. She was semi-European (Dutch? German?), meaning that her father had been US military stationed in Europe, married and had kids there, and she had lived there for a while before her family moved to the US. This all made her a gorgeous, exotic, sophisticated creature to me, the likes of whom I'd never met. The world I was in was sort of on the dirty fringe of a big university - hippies, punks, bikers, artists and musicians, fallen preppies turned medium-time drug dealers. I was a lapsing student, having fun, making friends of people like none I'd ever met before, expanding my little universe in strange new directions.
I don't remember where I met her - just through mutual acquaintances, I suppose. She was a friend of a good friend of mine I think. I don't think she was a student. Maybe she had been, but left school and just worked in a shop or something. My memories of that time are all hazy...
I had a huge crush on her of course, and never expected she'd take an interest in me. But, we became friends. And then after a couple of months, she did become interested in me for some reason. I was too dumb to realize it, but our mutual friend clued me in.
It was a fast burn - we talked late into the night about everything - the way 20 year-olds can, without actually knowing anything. We went to a see a local band, got drunk, watched movies... I had never known a girl like her. She was like heaven to me - this beautiful, interesting girl that would look into my eyes and talk with me for hours, kiss me ... That was the problem. She was everything to me. I was ... something ... to her.
Maybe a week passed. I never tried to do more than kiss her - maybe I was intimidated. She was much more experienced than I was. I don't think that was it, though. I felt that this was a fragile thing, that if I disturbed it, it would shatter and be gone forever.
She led me to her bed one night. The details are not important (and nowhere near as juicy as MdMs!), but we were in that bed a long time. I never wanted to leave, to sleep, to stop. You can do that when you're 20.
I might have slept a few hours. The next day I had to leave early. For reasons I won't get into, I had to drive hundreds of miles and go into Mexico on an errand.
I fell out of bed, pulled on my clothes, got in the car and drove. The smell of her body was all over me. She didn't wear any perfume that I remember - that's not what I mean - it was just her. I didn't want to bathe, didn't wash my hands or face - I just drove and breathed in her scent. On that drive it was my air. It was all I wanted to breathe.
I drove like a bat out of hell - about 20 hours on the road, and waiting at border crossings - to get back as fast as I could.
I couldn't find her when I did get back. I went to sleep. The next day, I found out that she'd been hanging around with some floppy haired fool with a big red motorcycle. That was it. She was finished with me. I think she had been before, and that night was her way of closing that chapter in her life. I don't know - we were friendly again after, but never more, and we never talked about it.
I still remember the smell of her on that drive.
Hmmm ... the Sillage of Sex. Does that count?
Anyway - a belated welcome, A&I. Your posts were great fun to read - you seem to be a very quick study. It's great to have you here.
MdM - I was about to reply to your oath never to buy another bottle of perfume with the single word "bullshit" (or should that be 2 words?) - but you had already broken your vow. I'll have to act faster the next time you make it.

Fleurine - I tried to come up with something, but failed - no juicy story that has anything to do with perfume. The only thing ...
When I was young, I fell for a girl pretty hard. She was beautiful - sort of a scaled up pixie with big brown eyes, short chestnut brown hair, long legs, and a kind but fickle heart. She was semi-European (Dutch? German?), meaning that her father had been US military stationed in Europe, married and had kids there, and she had lived there for a while before her family moved to the US. This all made her a gorgeous, exotic, sophisticated creature to me, the likes of whom I'd never met. The world I was in was sort of on the dirty fringe of a big university - hippies, punks, bikers, artists and musicians, fallen preppies turned medium-time drug dealers. I was a lapsing student, having fun, making friends of people like none I'd ever met before, expanding my little universe in strange new directions.
I don't remember where I met her - just through mutual acquaintances, I suppose. She was a friend of a good friend of mine I think. I don't think she was a student. Maybe she had been, but left school and just worked in a shop or something. My memories of that time are all hazy...
I had a huge crush on her of course, and never expected she'd take an interest in me. But, we became friends. And then after a couple of months, she did become interested in me for some reason. I was too dumb to realize it, but our mutual friend clued me in.
It was a fast burn - we talked late into the night about everything - the way 20 year-olds can, without actually knowing anything. We went to a see a local band, got drunk, watched movies... I had never known a girl like her. She was like heaven to me - this beautiful, interesting girl that would look into my eyes and talk with me for hours, kiss me ... That was the problem. She was everything to me. I was ... something ... to her.
Maybe a week passed. I never tried to do more than kiss her - maybe I was intimidated. She was much more experienced than I was. I don't think that was it, though. I felt that this was a fragile thing, that if I disturbed it, it would shatter and be gone forever.
She led me to her bed one night. The details are not important (and nowhere near as juicy as MdMs!), but we were in that bed a long time. I never wanted to leave, to sleep, to stop. You can do that when you're 20.
I might have slept a few hours. The next day I had to leave early. For reasons I won't get into, I had to drive hundreds of miles and go into Mexico on an errand.
I fell out of bed, pulled on my clothes, got in the car and drove. The smell of her body was all over me. She didn't wear any perfume that I remember - that's not what I mean - it was just her. I didn't want to bathe, didn't wash my hands or face - I just drove and breathed in her scent. On that drive it was my air. It was all I wanted to breathe.
I drove like a bat out of hell - about 20 hours on the road, and waiting at border crossings - to get back as fast as I could.
I couldn't find her when I did get back. I went to sleep. The next day, I found out that she'd been hanging around with some floppy haired fool with a big red motorcycle. That was it. She was finished with me. I think she had been before, and that night was her way of closing that chapter in her life. I don't know - we were friendly again after, but never more, and we never talked about it.
I still remember the smell of her on that drive.
Hmmm ... the Sillage of Sex. Does that count?
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I would quote Rubegone's post above in its entirety, but, why bother? It's up there. Re-read it. This has just happened to me, minus certain details. I think it happens to all of us. We don't want to break the magic...we hold out...we hold out....and then, we give in, naively convinced that we somehow might avoid taking that delicate feeling, and hurling it with force against a brick wall, to watch it shatter into a million and an half pieces, the way one of those tacky blown glass gallion ships would have done, the ones we were so fascinated with and wanted when we were little, but had to be contented with a silly swan instead, which our heinous, jealous sister, though we handled it with great care, then unceremoniously broke for us: We might as well have had the gallion ship, and flung it as hard as we could against the ground, just for the pleasure of watching it, a thing of inexplicable beauty, shatter into a cache or worthless bits of glass that sparkle like diamonds but are in fact just rubbish. This won't stop happening to me. "She was everything to me. I was but something to her." What is this pattern, and why must we all go through it? Rube you were lucky to have been through it just the one time. I seemingly have it on auto repeat. Ah! But then, I forget: Just how many have I left heartlessly in my dust, caring nothing for their broken heart? What is this pattern? Recently, two dear friends of mine were married, each for the first time: She must be in her mid 60's. He is a spry, perfectly dapper and all around dreamboat, in his mid seventies. I was at their wedding. The bride wore white: It was very much a classic wedding on all fronts: The look of happiness and joy on both their faces is something that I don't think I shall ever forget: All the care the groom took to make himself perfectly irresistable to his bride, convinced as he was that he didn't deserve her. How he fussed over his tux....his boutonniere. The smile on his withered, mid-seventies face: How genuine it was. The look of abandon in the eyes of the bride, convinced as she was she didn't deserve him: Perhaps.....it just takes some of us....a bit longer than others?
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