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post #1 of 35
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Hello everyone,

So today's story is going to be a bit atypical of the ones normally seen on here but it still raises an important question of what is appropriate fragrance chit-chat/discussion with strangers. I'd like to hear your input on how you would (or have) approached a situation where maybe you really liked another person's fragrance and wanted to inquire about it or the like.

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For a bit of background, I had been painting all morning at my mother's while my girlfriend and another employee were there helping with my mom's business. And around noon time, naturally, we became hungry and decided on a local mexican restaurant to eat at, which is a casual atmosphere comparable to the Montezuma chain and a step-up from fast-food. Anyway, while the server delivered my food onto the table I caught a whiff of something familiar and thought to myself, "Oh, no acqua di gio for once. Where do I remember that from." Nascant to the fragrance world, I told my girlfriend sitting next to me that he was wearing JPG's "Le Male," and how I should've known that it was going to be a common fragrance (I have le male on the way in the mail).

So, I battled with myself whether or not to casually ask the waiter what scent he was wearing and decided I would. When he came back around to finish delivering our dishes, I nonchalantly asked, "Is that le male you're wearing?" He then looked a little perplexed and I took it as a.) I was not making myself comprehensible enough given English is likely his second language or b.) he never heard of Le Male and I'm completely off in my assertion. Well, it had been the latter because after I changed my original question to, "What scent is that? It smells familiar." He told me it was Joop!

Afterwards, I commenced chowing down and then my mom, gf, and friend mentioned that the waiter probably thought I was hitting on him. This hadn't even crossed my mind. So when the (a) waiter came back, I said, "Oh excuse me, sir. My friends (for the sake of simplicity) thought it sounded like I was hitting on you. I wasn't. I just wanted to make that clear." Then the (soon to be flummoxed) waiter replied, "Oh, ok," and walked away.

We-e-e-l-ll, my table then told me, "That wasn't the waiter you asked about the cologne. The original waiter had a goatee and this one didn't" (probable they are brothers). Feeling mired and beyond any chance of salvaging the situation I gave up and kept my mouth quiet the rest of our meal.
post #2 of 35
1. NEVER apologize in public.

2. Waiters and waitresses get hit on all the time so unless you have done something incredibly obvious or offensive no apology is required. This wasn't even close to the line.

3. Don't discuss fragrances when non-committed friends and relatives are in hearing distance.
post #3 of 35
The inquiry was OK, but the follow up was an engagement too far, enmeshing the waiter in your insecurity. You should have laughed off your companions' suggestion.
post #4 of 35
Where I'm from asking strangers what fragrance they are wearing is not the done thing. I guess we English are a rather reserved lot. lol
post #5 of 35
I don't ask other men what they are wearing. Period. Too many opportunities for awkwardness.

In your situation, if I was with my girlfriend, I would mention it to her outside the hearing of the waiter, and she could then ask the waiter "Oh, your cologne is quite nice, what is it so I can buy it for my boyfriend?"

Waiters get that sort of thing all the time if they wear cologne. Most don't wear cologne .
post #6 of 35
Winterbourne, l am squirming with embarrassment on your behalf! Surely one of the best perfume-related "I'll get my coat" moments that l've ever heard of!

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Originally Posted by Jack Hunter View Post

Where I'm from asking strangers what fragrance they are wearing is not the done thing. I guess we English are a rather reserved lot. lol

This is true. l was browsing in a shop the other day, & l just *knew* that a woman near me was wearing Black Orchid, but l could not bring myself to talk to her about it. Not really because l was embarrassed, but because l didn't want to embarrass her! lf it was someone l knew or had already got chatting to, that would be a different story...
post #7 of 35
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Originally Posted by Jack Hunter View Post

Where I'm from asking strangers what fragrance they are wearing is not the done thing. I guess we English are a rather reserved lot. lol

Jack, do you think that's just a man-to-man thing or is it the same if a woman wanted to know what another woman was wearing? I've asked both men and women what fragrance they were wearing, but then I can use the fact that I'm a Yank as cover!

To the OP: You did nothing to apologize for. You asked a question because you were interested in the fragrance. Nothing wrong with that, in my view. If the guy took it the wrong way, that's his problem, not yours. But you don't even know he took it the wrong way; it was just your table folks who suggested that. Be secure with yourself and don't create issues where there are none.
post #8 of 35
I probably would have wondered but not have asked.
post #9 of 35
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Originally Posted by Kagey View Post

Jack, do you think that's just a man-to-man thing or is it the same if a woman wanted to know what another woman was wearing? I've asked both men and women what fragrance they were wearing, but then I can use the fact that I'm a Yank as cover!

It would be easier for a women than a man but it all depends on the setting. A stranger in a shop or on the street I would say it's not the done thing for men or women. But for a woman in a office or a familiar setting where you are on common ground I would say it would be easier.
post #10 of 35
I love the whole backstory. Painting, got hungry.
What did you order?
Usually if its a casual place you go back up to the counter and pick up your food when they call your number.

Like I told a friend on twitter- Chill out with the cologne talk man, nobody knows what youre talking about.
post #11 of 35
I did ask a man who was a stranger once and it did not feel right, at all. So I guess it is better not to, unless you ask a friend, a colleague you are confident with or someone you know. And still, I think it is better not to.
post #12 of 35
Why didn't you apologize to each waiter afterwards for confusing them for one another?
post #13 of 35
I think the mistake you've made was to hit on the waiter with your gf and mother in attendance. Of course they noticed! :-p
post #14 of 35
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Originally Posted by teardrop View Post

Winterbourne, l am squirming with embarrassment on your behalf! Surely one of the best perfume-related "I'll get my coat" moments that l've ever heard of!



This is true. l was browsing in a shop the other day, & l just *knew* that a woman near me was wearing Black Orchid, but l could not bring myself to talk to her about it. Not really because l was embarrassed, but because l didn't want to embarrass her! lf it was someone l knew or had already got chatting to, that would be a different story...

Had a similar experience with a colleague at work who was wearing Pure Malt beyond all doubt. Didn't feel right asking though.
post #15 of 35
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Jack, do you think that's just a man-to-man thing or is it the same if a woman wanted to know what another woman was wearing?

See my earlier post for an answer to this
post #16 of 35
Oh Winterbourne - that is embarrassing ! Like Teardrop - i am squirming for you too but I did have a laugh. I think that kind of mistake is easily made and i would have made the same error, knowing me !
C'est la vie !
post #17 of 35
I would have asked what fragrance he was wearing and left it at that. I don't think that there's anything wrong with asking a stranger what fragrance they're wearing, it's not like you're asking them boxers or briefs!
post #18 of 35
LOL- the fact that you couldn't tell one waiter with facial hair from one without makes me want to advise you from ever doing anything like that every again....LOL
post #19 of 35
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Originally Posted by teardrop View Post

This is true. l was browsing in a shop the other day, & l just *knew* that a woman near me was wearing Black Orchid, but l could not bring myself to talk to her about it. Not really because l was embarrassed, but because l didn't want to embarrass her! lf it was someone l knew or had already got chatting to, that would be a different story...

I'd say asking for the name of a perfume a stranger is wearing is probably not much of a problem, after all you're interested in the perfume's name only. If you start a conversation about a perfume she is wearing though, knowing the name already, it clearly comes across as if you want to bed her.

Just kidding.
post #20 of 35
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Originally Posted by Kagey View Post

Jack, do you think that's just a man-to-man thing or is it the same if a woman wanted to know what another woman was wearing? I've asked both men and women what fragrance they were wearing, but then I can use the fact that I'm a Yank as cover!

I'll chime in - at least around here (Eastern Canada) women talk about such things regularly, and this kind of conversation is not too uncommon even amongst total strangers, but it would be quite strange for a man to ask another man this question (if they are strangers). I probably would ask a pretty close friend, but even then I'd phrase it in a way so that it's clear that my purpose is to impress the girls, which is partly true anyway, though I happen to just like smelling nice. I guess it's just the societal norms that have been drilled into my mind.
post #21 of 35
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Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post

I would have asked what fragrance he was wearing and left it at that. I don't think that there's anything wrong with asking a stranger what fragrance they're wearing, it's not like you're asking them boxers or briefs!

I agree. But it's funny- there was a thread on FG lately where a woman said she hates people asking what her scent is because it feels as invasive as asking about what kind of underwear she is wearing. Everyone is different, it seems.
post #22 of 35
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Originally Posted by eggy View Post

Why didn't you apologize to each waiter afterwards for confusing them for one another?

"Lo siento senor, soy un tonto."
post #23 of 35
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"Lo siento senor, soy un tonto."


Que?
post #24 of 35
Thread Starter 
frug is right - normally in this scenario, I think I would've shrugged off my table guests' opinions and not have worried about it. I suppose today I was slightly more gregarious and didn't mind clearing any misunderstanding, if there was any, initially.

My friends, I know it sounds awful that I couldn't distinguish between the two waiters, but I guess a family-run business with similiar features and nuanced facial hairstyles got the best of me today. And I felt I would've further complicated matters by trying to resolve the confusion; so for the rest of the meal I assumed an air of having already forgotten about the awkward experience and moved-on.

Also, around my current place of employment it is not out of the ordinary for one of us to ask another male or female employee what they are wearing and/or compliment their fragrance. Just the other day, for instance, my boss asked me what I was wearing because he thought he recognized it as Polo original - nope, Kouros.

I ordered Pollo Guapo, by the way. A grilled chicken breast with pinapple chunks, sauteed onions and peppers, drizzled with a delicious tangy-pineapple sauce with fresh steamed vegables and some variation of rice as the sides.
post #25 of 35
mmmmmm........Pollo Guapo.......

Im going to get some tacos. Will post pics later.
post #26 of 35
YOLO seriously. I wouldn't have been the least bit embarrassed if I were you, nor would I (and nor should you) feel inhibited from asking someone what scent they are wearing. Honestly what is the worst that is going to happen? Someone thinks you're hitting on them? Or they think you're a weirdo or something. Who cares? Life is too short to give a shit.

I have asked people what perfume they were wearing in the past and often they were flattered which then lead to a very pleasant chat, or alternatively they looked at me askance muttered the name of their frag and scuttled off. Am I bothered which response I get? Nope. It's not like I asked them their bra size or what brand of undies they had on, if they were freaked out by me asking them what perfume they were wearing that says much more about them than me.

Wearing a perfume is at least in part intended to communicate something to other people, if others then respond to your scented communication with verbal communication that's hardly out of order.
post #27 of 35
I will say that I have never had a woman look at me funny when I asked what kind of perfume she was wearing. I think the overwhelming majority find it flattering. If the woman looks young enough to be my daughter, I usually make sure I say something like, "Excuse me, what perfume is that? It smells like something my daughter might like," or some such thing. I don't have any kids, but I don't want to make anyone feel like I'm the creepy old guy hitting on them.

Then again, I feel like I live my whole life putting my foot in my mouth, and probably end up thinking too much about how to avoid offending others.
post #28 of 35
I need to put Heperd back on ignore. Its hard getting coffee I just spat out off the keyboard

When asking someone about fragrance, I guess it just depends. I understand it can get awkward, but you never know as barclay mentioned above, they may be flattered. I certainly would be. I feel as someone who is constantly seeking out fragrances that if someone is wearing something I don't know, but find interesting, then I just have to ask. Of course if it were someone I didn't want to communicate with ( for whatever reason), then I would forget it.

If I smelled Joop!, Aqua di Gio pour Homme or Le Male, I would know in an instant. Well, that is if the person's were not wearing Mont Blanc Individual , Perry Ellis 360 Red or Cuba Gold . I remember for the longest time I could not figure out this one guys scent that had perfumed the air 2 meteres around him. I did not want to make it awkward, but I could have asked ( I eventually realized it was Fleur du Male).

All in all, I really think it was really unfortuante that you had mistaken the two waiters ( I guess you were nervous or distracted by your family) . And there is nothing wrong with apologzing in public.
post #29 of 35
I think there was nothing wrong with asking what he was wearing. I do that to friends all the time, maybe havent to strangers but I could see myself doing that in future. It's not a big deal at all.

I certainly would not have clarified by saying "oh I wasnt hitting on you". It's just so META and self-concious and UNCOOL!
It's like you were ashamed of yourself.....NO NEED TO BE!
post #30 of 35
I'm a server at a fine dining restaurant and I almost never wear any fragrance at all. On very rare occasions I'll put a small amount of AdP Colonia or 4711 on before I go to work, but just enough so only people close to me can smell it. If you're opening a $150 bottle of cabernet for a guest, you want them to smell the bouquet of the wine, not your scent of the day.
post #31 of 35
Lol, hey I think you missed out the part where you dug a hole deep enough for you to hide in.

As a rule I'd never ask another guy about his cologne unless I know him in person. At the very least you should make small talks with the guy and broach the subject at an appropriate moment. That's what strangers should do to break the ice - establish a common ground by commenting (loudly I might add) on familiar situations likely experienced by the other person and see if the other person (or anyone else) takes the social bait and offer a comment of his own. Moving directly to personal stuff like a worn fragrance is kinda intrusive imo.

I have asked female strangers about their worn fragrance on occasions but do mind the social context. Once I asked a female client at the end of a short business transaction and she gave me a perplexed look. Either I was totally off base as many fragrances share similar profiles, or she was taken aback by surprise. Anyway I just laughed it off and moved on. Trying to explaining yourself will just drag the awkward moment.
post #32 of 35
Love the story of foot in mouth!

I think there's nothing wrong with politely complimenting the perfume someone is wearing and asking what it is.
post #33 of 35
Asking someone about his or her fragrance can be taken in many ways:

1. An innocent, genuine inquiry
2. A conversation starter
3. A flirtation
4. An invasion of privacy

All in all, don't worry about it! It's over.
post #34 of 35
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1. NEVER apologize in public.


Why's that?
post #35 of 35
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Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh View Post

1. NEVER apologize in public.


Why's that?
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