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post #1 of 33
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I'm surprised. Good luck to him!
post #2 of 33
Hope Federer will win, probably for the last time.
post #3 of 33
It would be nice to see a Brit win on his home turf.
post #4 of 33
It would be nice if Murray appreciated his fans instead of insulting them.....!!!

His anti English comments have cost him a lot of support here.
post #5 of 33
I'll root for him, but I can't see how he beats Federer.
post #6 of 33
Stranger things have happened!
post #7 of 33
Can't believe it but rooting for him !
post #8 of 33
It's funny. A lot of people here say they want to like him and root for him, but it's hard. He's also reputed to be a really nice and funny guy, but he just comes across as unlikeable.

My own theory is that his image problem has to do with the very imposing presence of his mother and, to a lesser extent, the girlfriend who's always preening for the TV cameras. The BBC has done a slightly better job this year of not showing their reaction after every single point, but it's still an irritating diversion.

And just in terms of likeability, Federer lost me a couple of years ago when he disappeared up his own ass with the blingy branding all over everything. I wonder if he's got his own fragrance yet.

I'll be rooting for Murray, and I think he's in with a definite chance. It will be an exciting match.
post #9 of 33
I don't think Murray is going to win, but it's nice to finally see someone else/new in the finals
post #10 of 33
Federer loves himself abit tooooo much . I always loved Pistol Pete Sampras .
post #11 of 33
I'm fairly certain I'm committing treason here, but I'll be rooting for Federer.
Everything about Murray rubs me up the wrong way.
post #12 of 33
Yes Sampras was my favourite and always will be. I grew up watching him play.

As for Murray, he scraped through his other matches and the home press here have been saying he's the best player since tennis started, as they do with every player born here, which gets on my nerves.

May the best man win, which I doubt Murray can achieve.
post #13 of 33
Well the last time a Brit won was in the Silver Jubilee year (Virginia Wade in 1977), so the omens are good...
post #14 of 33
I like Murray. He answers silly media questions with indifferent answers. My type of guy.

There is an element of anti-English stuff supposedly said by him, but while this is whipped up by the likes of the Daily Mail, I shall take it with a pinch of salt.

Plus, all this "do it for the country" stuff is bollocks. He's an athlete, doing it for himself, as exactly he should. Good luck to him, but Federer looks to be the favourite after the job he did on Djokovic.
post #15 of 33
Roger Federer and Andy Murrays have met on 15 occasions and their head to head record currently stands at 8-7 in Murrays favour.
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Originally Posted by Bluestocking Totty View Post

Well the last time a Brit won was in the Silver Jubilee year (Virginia Wade in 1977), so the omens are good...

My husband mentioned this to me so I think he's counting on the stars. Murray Hill instead of Henman Hill now outside Wimbledon. Should be a good contest, but I favor Federer. Hope his ego doesn't get in the way. Murray kind of irritates me, and he might be British, but he isn't English. He's Scottish (it does make a difference there), and has that brash Scottish attitude that goes with it.
post #17 of 33
British when he wins, Scottish when he loses.
post #18 of 33
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the home press here have been saying he's the best player since tennis started, as they do with every player born here, which gets on my nerves..

They do that with all sports - I remember when Paula Radcliffe bailed in the Greece olympics marathon, and the UK commentators were saying that it was simply too hot and too difficult, and that there probably shouldn't have been a women's marathon under those conditions. Totally gets on my nerves too, and makes it even harder to support the British athletes. You feel like you're being mugged.
post #19 of 33
Kudos to Federer for his 7th title!
post #20 of 33
Congratulations to Federer - a true gent, great ambassador for the sport, and a deserving champion.
post #21 of 33
Congratulations to Federer, the greatest player ever to hold a racquet IMO. Good to see artistry can still prevail in the era of the brute-strength baseline game.

Great show by Murray, too. Hopefully, his time will come. Equally hopefully, the media barbs will stop now that he's shown that he has an emotional side.
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Great show by Murray, too. Hopefully, his time will come. Equally hopefully, the media barbs will stop now that he's shown that he has an emotional side.

Agreed - he did himself proud today.
post #23 of 33
Well won victory by Federer. Congratulations to him!
post #24 of 33
A less than confident start, but a solid finish. Well done Federer !
post #25 of 33
Congratulations to Federer !
Murray has done well and maybe next year will be his .
post #26 of 33
Not a dry eye in the house here after Andy's speech. l am glad he got the opportunity to show his emotional side. He is a shy person, & shyness is often mistaken for aloofness; l know this from experience. He did really well today, & his time will surely come. Hopefully the haters will at least have gained a grudging respect for him now.
post #27 of 33
You could see him fighting to control his emotions and hold it in. Then he cried and the camera turned to the spectators and a lot of them had a tears in their eyes. Murray played so well, shame.
post #28 of 33
I stopped watching tennis 10 years ago when Pete Sampras, the idol of my early youth, was in decline and had to give in to Federer's vigour and talent. For years I did not think much of him, but eventually he won me over with his sympathic attitude. He is without a doubt the most perfect professional tennis player that ever trod on a court. Nadal will certainly outlive Federer's last triumphs and I wish him a splendid future. Hopefully he will keep persons like the utterly charmless and atavistic Djokovic away from the top of the world rankings.
post #29 of 33
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Originally Posted by Candide View Post

I stopped watching tennis 10 years ago when Pete Sampras, the idol of my early youth, was in decline and had to give in to Federer's vigour and talent. For years I did not think much of him, but eventually he won me over with his sympathic attitude. He is without a doubt the most perfect professional tennis player that ever trod on a court. Nadal will certainly outlive Federer's last triumphs and I wish him a splendid future. Hopefully he will keep persons like the utterly charmless and atavistic Djokovic away from the top of the world rankings.

Ahhh. ... Pistol Pete Sampras- also my hero of past tennis. I used to tape his matches and never missed a single Wimbledon match he played.
post #30 of 33
With respect Candide, I don't think that this is true. Djokovic has more of a sense of humour than either Rafa or Roger. He comes across well in interviews.

Don't expect too much more from Rafa, he most certainly will not be winning slams for much longer due to the incredible stress that his body has had to put up with. A hell of an athlete and a fine sportsman, but it's already taken it's toll on his knees. The same will happen to Djokovic at some point and Murray too. Such is the nature of the power game.

It's ironic that Murray has teamed up with Lendl. He was another misunderstood character with a fine sense of humour. His fault was that he didn't suffer fools gladly. There was an article in The Times today which said as much. Like Murray, he answered inane media questions with sarcastic answers. I rather admire that attitude.
post #31 of 33
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With respect Candide, I don't think that this is true. Djokovic has more of a sense of humour than either Rafa or Roger. He comes across well in interviews.

Thanks for your analysis.

I don't know what it is but Djokovic to me is just so unappealing. Frankly I don't give much interest to what sportsmen say in interviews; after all their head is primarily occupated with the one thing they do best. So maybe I should watch Djokovic more outside the court, but I certainly don't like the way he acts during a match. All this shouting, grimacing, clenching his fist etc.? Maybe this compromises my expectation of gentleman-tennis and noble control of affects.

Only today I searched for a name I knew well in days gone by, a name that had slipped out of my memory. Now I ask you, jcrich, you as a British, wether you remember Greg Rusedski (certainly you do) and if you have ever accepted him who was born in Canada as "British" tennis pro?
post #32 of 33
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Originally Posted by Candide View Post

Thanks for your analysis.

I don't know what it is but Djokovic to me is just so unappealing. Frankly I don't give much interest to what sportsmen say in interviews; after all their head is primarily occupated with the one thing they do best. So maybe I should watch Djokovic more outside the court, but I certainly don't like the way he acts during a match. All this shouting, grimacing, clenching his fist etc.? Maybe this compromises my expectation of gentleman-tennis and noble control of affects.

Only today I searched for a name I knew well in days gone by, a name that had slipped out of my memory. Now I ask you, jcrich, you as a British, wether you remember Greg Rusedski (certainly you do) and if you have ever accepted him who was born in Canada as "British" tennis pro?

Thanks Candide.

In my opinion, and most Brits I know, Greg Rusedski is about as British as Bjork is, i.e. not at all. And he still would have been Canadian had he won a slam. (Except for in our shitty tabloid press, that is.)

I know what you mean about the on court actions though. It's the reason why I watch little female tennis nowadays. The likes of Sharapova and Azarenko shrieking their way through matches really pisses me off. It's cheating, good and proper, in my opinion. Funny how the real noisy ones all come from Bolletieri's academy, perhaps it's just coincidence?

I just wish that Rafa would stop pulling wedgies from his butt-crack during matches! lol
post #33 of 33
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Originally Posted by jcrich View Post

Thanks Candide.

In my opinion, and most Brits I know, Greg Rusedski is about as British as Bjork is, i.e. not at all. And he still would have been Canadian had he won a slam. (Except for in our shitty tabloid press, that is.)

I know what you mean about the on court actions though. It's the reason why I watch little female tennis nowadays. The likes of Sharapova and Azarenko shrieking their way through matches really pisses me off. It's cheating, good and proper, in my opinion. Funny how the real noisy ones all come from Bolletieri's academy, perhaps it's just coincidence?

I just wish that Rafa would stop pulling wedgies from his butt-crack during matches! lol

Thanks for this, jcrich!
Concerning female tennis and the moaning I'd like to post a youtube-video I found. Maybe it's exaggerated, childish or plain tasteless but it certainly makes something out of the disturbing "shrieking"-fact you discussed in your post:



In this context I heard in another youtube-post that female tennis had been much quieter before Monica Seles appeared on the scene. And she, too, studied with Bollettieri! If I think back...I believe this observation is right. They all had some "sounds" but not this kind of noise.
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