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post #61 of 178
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Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post

The problem with the first half of the wine analogy is that wine isn't marketed or even presented as being the same year after year. Years of the same wine can taste different, but a bottle has the year right on the label. Aventus is sold as Aventus and we expect a 2010 to smell like a 2011 and 2012 because we often have no way of knowing which we'll get until it's been purchased and shipped.

BTW: Thanks for the link! That's an interesting read. Mmmmmm... wine.

very true. it doesn't totally work, BUT if you look at it in terms of whether people enjoy the luxury of the item versus the quality of the item, it kinda works.
post #62 of 178
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Originally Posted by Sol invictus View Post

Maybe it's intentional? People on BN always go on about 2010 being a good year for MI or Aventus etc, & batch variations. Maybe creed are trying to create 'vintages' like fine wines.

Really? I thought most people say how bad 2010 was for Creed. Or am I missing something?


well, whichever was a good year. The point is that people talk about creed having good & bad years, just like fine wines have vintages.
post #63 of 178
Creed's batch inconsistencies are without a doubt very frustrating. But when you do get a good batch, you can't believe how lucky you are. Olivier Creed makes some beautiful scents.

I had never even heard of Creed before I starting reading Basenotes, but I am so glad that I know them now. They make the typical department store designer fragrances seem so inferior now. A totally different league IMO.

Now if only Mr. Creed would make really good batches of GIT and MI and send them to me! Please Sir?
post #64 of 178
I'm in the same boat as the OP. My first Creed was SMW and it was definitely an authentic, as I had it verified. Man was it disappointing. Smelt great for the first 30 mins...completely disappeared within 3 hours. For a retail price in the upper $200 for 4oz...this is just sad. I'm not sure what all the other BN'ers are hyping over Creed. I'm definitely returning this.

I have Original Santal and splits of Aventus and Millisime coming in..I'll see how those turn out. After this bottle of SMW...they can't be much worse. And as a first impression on Creed with this SMW, I just might be done with the whole line. It's hard to gamble on such expensive cologne..I'm moving into the L'artisan, By Kilian, Fredric Malle and Amouages. With their samples ocming in, I'm more than confident they won't disappoint as much as Creed.
post #65 of 178
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Originally Posted by dogsinatub View Post

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If you're going to go with Christian rock bands, Collective Soul is at the top of the mountain

I would agree with that. Their stuff as of late is pretty kitschy, but the older stuff is the way to go ! ( This is usually the case with most musicians....and it is true).
post #66 of 178
Im sorry for your loss.

"Im so pissed off and done with Creed....but im going to try Aventus....."
post #67 of 178
I wrote this a week or so back but the Creed rep at the Niemans here basically praised the inconsistencies. He told me that because Creed was so top notch and by hand that inconsistencies are a norm...like in cooking where you might not have the perfect cake batch everytime. Which to me didn't make sense because you usually bake with some sort of measurements. He even said inconsistencies in the bottle design were understandable because it is hand done. Oh Well. I desperately want to buy a MI tester on Fragrancenet but am afraid to be disappointed
post #68 of 178
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Originally Posted by ToughCool View Post

I wrote this a week or so back but the Creed rep at the Niemans here basically praised the inconsistencies. He told me that because Creed was so top notch and by hand that inconsistencies are a norm...like in cooking where you might not have the perfect cake batch everytime. Which to me didn't make sense because you usually bake with some sort of measurements. He even said inconsistencies in the bottle design were understandable because it is hand done. Oh Well. I desperately want to buy a MI tester on Fragrancenet but am afraid to be disappointed

but naturally sourced ingredients always change depending on weather, time, etc. so there could be variation from year to year, but I'm not sure it should vary all that much.
post #69 of 178
I guess you guys just arent sophisticated enough to own Creeds......
post #70 of 178
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Originally Posted by heperd View Post

I guess you guys just arent sophisticated enough to own Creeds......

my shoes don't match my belt, so I know I'm not
post #71 of 178
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Originally Posted by heperd View Post

I guess you guys just arent sophisticated enough to own Creeds......

LOL!

It does amaze me, when the mention of Creed comes up, just how many people jump into the frey. The brand people love to hate,
post #72 of 178
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Originally Posted by heperd View Post

I guess you guys just arent sophisticated enough to own Creeds......

LOL!

It does amaze me, when the mention of Creed comes up, just how many people jump into the frey. The brand people love to hate,
post #73 of 178
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Originally Posted by ToughCool View Post

I wrote this a week or so back but the Creed rep at the Niemans here basically praised the inconsistencies. He told me that because Creed was so top notch and by hand that inconsistencies are a norm...like in cooking where you might not have the perfect cake batch everytime. Which to me didn't make sense because you usually bake with some sort of measurements. He even said inconsistencies in the bottle design were understandable because it is hand done. Oh Well. I desperately want to buy a MI tester on Fragrancenet but am afraid to be disappointed

So this guy was trying to say that they strive for inconsistencies and that this is a good thing? Wow!!! That's all types of wrong! I would have asked him to give me another example of when inconsistency is a good thing. Was this an actual human you were talking to or someone on the internet? Lol! Honestly, I probably would have just stared at him for a few seconds and just walked away. That is someone that's literally too dumb to insult.
post #74 of 178
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Originally Posted by heperd View Post

I guess you guys just arent sophisticated enough to own Creeds......

If owning a couple of bottles of Creed cologne is what it takes to be sophisticated, I'd be honored to be considered a heathen.

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Originally Posted by PalmBeach View Post

LOL!

It does amaze me, when the mention of Creed comes up, just how many people jump into the frey. The brand people love to hate,

It amazes me that people will pay top dollar for low quality just so they can tell everybody they own a bottle of Creed. I guess celebrities and hype don't impress me much.
post #75 of 178
This site definitely has way too many (paid) Creed defenders. And promoters. I've never seen users so passionately defend or recommend a brand. Not in such abundance.
post #76 of 178
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Originally Posted by silentrich View Post

So this guy was trying to say that they strive for inconsistencies and that this is a good thing? Wow!!! That's all types of wrong! I would have asked him to give me another example of when inconsistency is a good thing. Was this an actual human you were talking to or someone on the internet? Lol! Honestly, I probably would have just stared at him for a few seconds and just walked away. That is someone that's literally too dumb to insult.

This is not a joke. He mentioned how the black wrap on the Aventus bottle was coming off a customers bottle and that he explained to them that it happens because it is hand made. Almost like it was acceptable to be a sloppy gluer because it represented "hand-made"..it was weird
post #77 of 178
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Originally Posted by UKisGR8 View Post

It amazes me that people will pay top dollar for low quality just so they can tell everybody they own a bottle of Creed. I guess celebrities and hype don't impress me much.

So you think no one buys Creed because they actually like the smell of the fragrance?
post #78 of 178
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Originally Posted by PhillyFresh View Post

This site definitely has way too many (paid) Creed defenders. And promoters. I've never seen users so passionately defend or recommend a brand. Not in such abundance.

No offense, but I see just as many people if not more who salivate for the chance to knock Creed, in darn near any thread where the Creed name gets mentioned.

Personally I like the Creeds I own. It doesn't bother me if someone does not like it or feel it is overpriced. Many fragrances I hear people like, I may not. I just don't understand all the hoopla when the Creed name gets mentioned. It's not as though Creed is the only higher priced fragrance that has detractors.

BTW, how did you come by the PhillyFresh name being from Canada?
post #79 of 178
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Originally Posted by heperd View Post

Im sorry for your loss.

"Im so pissed off and done with Creed....but im going to try Aventus....."

It's funny how you are defending Creed, while you are hosting 3 Creed splits at the moment.
Aventus, MI and Windsor.

The funny thing is, your splits are actually appealing to the haters.
You are doing business with Creed, buying tons of 500ml bottles, to make them affordable and to host great splits.
At the same time, you are bashing the haters out there, while you are proving their point in the best possible way.
post #80 of 178
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Originally Posted by PalmBeach View Post

No offense, but I see just as many people if not more who salivate for the chance to knock Creed, in darn near any thread where the Creed name gets mentioned.

Personally I like the Creeds I own. It doesn't bother me if someone does not like it or feel it is overpriced. Many fragrances I hear people like, I may not. I just don't understand all the hoopla when the Creed name gets mentioned. It's not as though Creed is the only higher priced fragrance that has detractors.

BTW, how did you come by the PhillyFresh name being from Canada?

Yeah you're right, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and opinions are subjective to each individual. I bought into the hype myself and got some samples/splits...and I was thoroughly disappointed with SMW. I'm still hoping that the others live up to their hype (especially the 'mighty' aventus) but, it's just disappointing to see SMW perform so poorly.

And..I've just always been a huge fan of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Been watching it since the 5th grade and still watch it today. Kids at school use always describe my outfits as looking "fresh", all the time. And so came the name, PhillyFresh. He's the Fresh Prince from Philadelphia.
Me, I'm from Toronto..so there is no real relation to my name, aside from being complimented as "fresh" all the time.
post #81 of 178
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Originally Posted by PhillyFresh View Post

And..I've just always been a huge fan of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Been watching it since the 5th grade and still watch it today. Kids at school use always describe my outfits as looking "fresh", all the time. And so came the name, PhillyFresh. He's the Fresh Prince from Philadelphia.
Me, I'm from Toronto..so there is no real relation to my name, aside from being complimented as "fresh" all the time.

Gotcha. Being an old Philly boy, Will Smith is a hero around the town. Not sure if you know, he is also a part owner of the Philadelphia 76'ers.
post #82 of 178
On the Basenotes forum born and raised on the playground was where they spent their hating days.

Insecure and melodramtic thinking their cool
All shooting their mouths like their just outta school

When a couple of guys, they were up to no good
Started spraying Creeds and said this never withstood

Past the 30 minute mark and then they got scared
And started venting their hate although nobody cared

I whistled for a Creed and when it came near
I sprayed the scent on my neck and then it was clear

These people were wrong and only a few citric ones don't last
Lets consign these opinions as tired and ass.

I got many hours around seven or eight
And yelled to the haters Yo I can still smell this later

Looked at my Windsor it was finally there
I can't make this line rhyme so here's Fozzie Bear




WAKA WAKA HATERS!
post #83 of 178
I'm quite surprised. Creed spoke highly of you, yet in return you have only criticism.
post #84 of 178
The dead horse is beaten. And I still love Creed!
post #85 of 178
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Originally Posted by Kron View Post

On the Basenotes forum born and raised on the playground was where they spent their hating days.

Insecure and melodramtic thinking their cool
All shooting their mouths like their just outta school

When a couple of guys, they were up to no good
Started spraying Creeds and said this never withstood

Past the 30 minute mark and then they got scared
And started venting their hate although nobody cared

I whistled for a Creed and when it came near
I sprayed the scent on my neck and then it was clear

These people were wrong and only a few citric ones don't last
Lets consign these opinions as tired and ass.

I got many hours around seven or eight
And yelled to the haters Yo I can still smell this later

Looked at my Windsor it was finally there
I can't make this line rhyme so here's Fozzie Bear




WAKA WAKA HATERS!

How much did Creed pay you to come up with this???!! Huh?? Huh??
post #86 of 178
They gave me a free Napoleon. He's so cute!!!
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post #88 of 178
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Originally Posted by ToughCool View Post

This is not a joke. He mentioned how the black wrap on the Aventus bottle was coming off a customers bottle and that he explained to them that it happens because it is hand made. Almost like it was acceptable to be a sloppy gluer because it represented "hand-made"..it was weird

He is a salesman working on commission. They are all full of crap. An educated consumer knows that before they walk through the door.
post #89 of 178
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Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post

It's funny how you are defending Creed, while you are hosting 3 Creed splits at the moment.
Aventus, MI and Windsor.

The funny thing is, your splits are actually appealing to the haters.
You are doing business with Creed, buying tons of 500ml bottles, to make them affordable and to host great splits.
At the same time, you are bashing the haters out there, while you are proving their point in the best possible way.

Thanks man I appreciate that. Very appealing to haters is just what im going for.

Actually though there is nothing funny about it. Im very serious about defending and promoting, after all its what I get paid to do. Every morning i log onto the video conference with Erwin. Me and the dozens of other Creed employees/basenotes members go over the talking points for the day. We are told to repeat certain phrases over and over- "lasts 12 hours", "top quality natural ingredients", "no panties". Eventually these become linked in readers minds.
Erwin stands in front of a chalk board and scribbles things about Napoleon and Elizabeth the Firsts gloves and caliphates.....
post #90 of 178
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Originally Posted by UKisGR8 View Post

It amazes me that people will pay top dollar for low quality just so they can tell everybody they own a bottle of Creed. I guess celebrities and hype don't impress me much.

It amazes me that someone trolls internet forums telling others that what they like, love or enjoy is wrong. Do you act like this offline too? Seriously, you must have no friends.

I like some Creed colognes. I like some Tom Ford colognes. I like some Chanel colognes. I like some YSL colognes and so on and so forth. Why would I care what you think about my choices?

I could easily flame your top ten list, but I will restrain myself. Except to say that your favorite fragrance in the world is a freakin' OUD? LOL, not everyone can have as good as taste as me.

I predict an imminent thread closure in 3...2...1... Does this happen in Bond, TF or Killian threads or only just Creed threads?
post #91 of 178
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Originally Posted by silentrich View Post

So this guy was trying to say that they strive for inconsistencies and that this is a good thing? Wow!!! That's all types of wrong! I would have asked him to give me another example of when inconsistency is a good thing. Was this an actual human you were talking to or someone on the internet? Lol! Honestly, I probably would have just stared at him for a few seconds and just walked away. That is someone that's literally too dumb to insult.

"Consistency is the bugbear of small minds." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely consistent people are the dead." -- Aldous Huxley

"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative." -- Oscar Wilde
post #92 of 178
I love Creed fragrances. The only slight let down so far is the poor projection/longevity of my 2010 batch of MI.
post #93 of 178
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Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh View Post

"Consistency is the bugbear of small minds." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely consistent people are the dead." -- Aldous Huxley

"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative." -- Oscar Wilde

Lol! BurgundyMarsh. Can't argue with those minds.
post #94 of 178
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Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh View Post

"Consistency is the bugbear of small minds." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely consistent people are the dead." -- Aldous Huxley

"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative." -- Oscar Wilde

I don't think I'd appreciate ordering a margarita and being served a glass of water, as an "imaginative" alternative.
post #95 of 178
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Originally Posted by frug View Post

I don't think I'd appreciate ordering a margarita and being served a glass of water, as an "imaginative" alternative.

You entirely miss the point, I'm afraid.

Oscar Wilde walks into a bar and orders a margarita. The bartender whips one up and Wilde knocks it down in one gulp.

"Well, my dear sir, that wasn't half bad." Wilde says. "I'll have another."

So the bartender whips up another one and Wilde knocks it down in one gulp.

"Well, kind sir, that wasn't bad either." Wilde says. "I'll have another."

This happens another six times.

After the eighth cocktail, Wilde pushes back his stool.

"Well, now, sir, I'm starting to feel a quite bit sick," says Wilde. "What exactly, barkeep, did you put in that last cocktail?"

"Sir," says the bartender, drawing himself up straight. "I ALWAYS mix them exactly the same: 1 1/2 ounces of Don Pilar tequila, 1/2 ounce of Cointreau, 1 ounce of hand squeezed fresh lime juice. The recipe NEVER VARIES."

Wilde stands up and fixes the bartender with his gimlet eye. "SIR," he says, with a slight totter, "CONSISTENCY is the LAST REFUGE of the UNIMAGINATIVE."
post #96 of 178
Been there, done that. Problem solved!
post #97 of 178
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Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh View Post

You entirely miss the point, I'm afraid.

I know you weren't talking to me, but I'm missing your point too. Are you saying inconsistency is better? You aren't honestly suggesting Creed varies the recipe for each batch to be imaginative, are you?
post #98 of 178
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Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post

I know you weren't talking to me, but I'm missing your point too. Are you saying inconsistency is better? You aren't honestly suggesting Creed varies the recipe for each batch to be imaginative, are you?

You're right. ALL these guys are saying inconsistency is better.
post #99 of 178
I love how Creed is consistently inconsistent.
post #100 of 178
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Originally Posted by ChuckW View Post

I love how Creed is consistently inconsistent.

We have a winner!
post #101 of 178
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Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh View Post

You entirely miss the point, I'm afraid.

Oscar Wilde walks into a bar and orders a margarita. The bartender whips one up and Wilde knocks it down in one gulp.

"Well, my dear sir, that wasn't half bad." Wilde says. "I'll have another."

So the bartender whips up another one and Wilde knocks it down in one gulp.

"Well, kind sir, that wasn't bad either." Wilde says. "I'll have another."

This happens another six times.

After the eighth cocktail, Wilde pushes back his stool.

"Well, now, sir, I'm starting to feel a quite bit sick," says Wilde. "What exactly, barkeep, did you put in that last cocktail?"

"Sir," says the bartender, drawing himself up straight. "I ALWAYS mix them exactly the same: 1 1/2 ounces of Don Pilar tequila, 1/2 ounce of Cointreau, 1 ounce of hand squeezed fresh lime juice. The recipe NEVER VARIES."

Wilde stands up and fixes the bartender with his gimlet eye. "SIR," he says, with a slight totter, "CONSISTENCY is the LAST REFUGE of the UNIMAGINATIVE."

I guess I'm STILL missing your point.
post #102 of 178
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Originally Posted by Style View Post

It amazes me that someone trolls internet forums telling others that what they like, love or enjoy is wrong. Do you act like this offline too? Seriously, you must have no friends.

I like some Creed colognes. I like some Tom Ford colognes. I like some Chanel colognes. I like some YSL colognes and so on and so forth. Why would I care what you think about my choices?

I could easily flame your top ten list, but I will restrain myself. Except to say that your favorite fragrance in the world is a freakin' OUD? LOL, not everyone can have as good as taste as me.

I predict an imminent thread closure in 3...2...1... Does this happen in Bond, TF or Killian threads or only just Creed threads?

First off, Sally, I never told anybody they were "wrong" for liking Creed. I simply stated my opinion about Creed.

Second, I have plenty of friends and I didn't have to impress them with overpriced cologne. I'm sorry I offended you with my opinion. I didn't realize you have stock in Creed.

3rd, I could actually care if you "could easily flame my top 10 list." My list is for me, not you. I like Oud... It's obvious. You can like whatever you want. You like overhyped, underachieving fragrances and I like Oud.

4th... You need to calm down.

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Originally Posted by silentrich View Post

So you think no one buys Creed because they actually like the smell of the fragrance?

I'm convinced there are people that genuinely like Creed fragrances. I'm also convinced there are people that buy Creed fragrances purely because of hype and "prestige." Personally, I'm not going to waste my money on underachieving and inconsistent cologne at that price.

It's just my opinion... Take it for what it's worth... Which isn't much if you ask some people.
post #103 of 178
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Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh View Post

You're right. ALL these guys are saying inconsistency is better.

That's why they were writers and poets and not scientists or surgeons. They can afford to be inconsistent. Actually with Creeds tall tales about their history of fragrance I can see why the inconsistency happens. Too much fantasy and science fiction and not enough science.
post #104 of 178
no more creed for me either
post #105 of 178
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Originally Posted by UKisGR8 View Post

First off, Sally, I never told anybody they were "wrong" for liking Creed. I simply stated my opinion about Creed.

Second, I have plenty of friends and I didn't have to impress them with overpriced cologne. I'm sorry I offended you with my opinion. I didn't realize you have stock in Creed.

3rd, I could actually care if you "could easily flame my top 10 list." My list is for me, not you. I like Oud... It's obvious. You can like whatever you want. You like overhyped, underachieving fragrances and I like Oud.

4th... You need to calm down.

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I'm convinced there are people that genuinely like Creed fragrances. I'm also convinced there are people that buy Creed fragrances purely because of hype and "prestige." Personally, I'm not going to waste my money on underachieving and inconsistent cologne at that price.

It's just my opinion... Take it for what it's worth... Which isn't much if you ask some people.

UK, I wasn't personally offended by your prior post, but reading over it I think the reason some may have taken offense is that you made it sound as if you thought all Creed buyers were just seeking to buy it at an inflated price just as a status symbol to satisfy some silly desire to emulate the rich and famous. Now I realize your point was not so categorical.

As you recognize, there are some of us who buy Creeds because we love the way they smell. I hate the prices and the inconsistencies (and don't think they're a good thing, but rather a sign of poor production control -- batch variations don't happen with Guerlain, Chanel, Bond, Lutens, and even comparative newcomers like Tom Ford). But I can't find anything in the world better smelling than a good batch of Millesime Imperial. God knows I've tried.

But Creed does try my patience more than any other house.
post #106 of 178
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Originally Posted by barclaydetolly View Post

UK, I wasn't personally offended by your prior post, but reading over it I think the reason some may have taken offense is that you made it sound as if you thought all Creed buyers were just seeking to buy it at an inflated price just as a status symbol to satisfy some silly desire to emulate the rich and famous. Now I realize your point was not so categorical.

As you recognize, there are some of us who buy Creeds because we love the way they smell. I hate the prices and the inconsistencies (and don't think they're a good thing, but rather a sign of poor production control -- batch variations don't happen with Guerlain, Chanel, Bond, Lutens, and even comparative newcomers like Tom Ford). But I can't find anything in the world better smelling than a good batch of Millesime Imperial. God knows I've tried.

But Creed does try my patience more than any other house.

pretty spot on here.
post #107 of 178
Pretty great thread so far. Someone named dropped Collective Soul ( 1990s guilty pleasure pop-rock band), Fresh Prince of Bel-Air ( Canadians have been inundated with re-runs of this show, but we love it !), Kron does a pretty cool rap based on the theme song......

I actually feel like these types of threads are improving.

But I need to address this :

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Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post

It's funny how you are defending Creed, while you are hosting 3 Creed splits at the moment.
Aventus, MI and Windsor.

The funny thing is, your splits are actually appealing to the haters.
You are doing business with Creed, buying tons of 500ml bottles, to make them affordable and to host great splits.
At the same time, you are bashing the haters out there, while you are proving their point in the best possible way.

I really don't get it. I'm not trying to be rude, but why is it funny ? If he is hosting a split, chances are, he will like the fragrance. He's entitled to his opinion here.

Creed splits appealing to haters ? Why would you buy a Creed if you hate them ? I criticize them on here myself, but if I hated a particular fragrance, I would not buy it.

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Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh View Post

"Consistency is the bugbear of small minds." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely consistent people are the dead." -- Aldous Huxley

"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative." -- Oscar Wilde

You cannot win a Stanley Cup without consistency !!
post #108 of 178
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Originally Posted by mcurtiss View Post

my shoes don't match my belt, so I know I'm not

Well if you decide to match I'd go with white.
post #109 of 178
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Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post

I know you weren't talking to me, but I'm missing your point too. Are you saying inconsistency is better? You aren't honestly suggesting Creed varies the recipe for each batch to be imaginative, are you?

Nobody in their right mind would say that. Most Creed fans on here have said it a million times:

Creed's batch inconsistencies suck.
Creed's quality control sucks.
Creed's inflated prices suck.
Creed's marketing hyperbole sucks.

But...

Creed makes some of the best smelling fragrances in the world. Which is why many of us still stick with them.

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Originally Posted by barclaydetolly View Post

UK, I wasn't personally offended by your prior post, but reading over it I think the reason some may have taken offense is that you made it sound as if you thought all Creed buyers were just seeking to buy it at an inflated price just as a status symbol to satisfy some silly desire to emulate the rich and famous. Now I realize your point was not so categorical.

As you recognize, there are some of us who buy Creeds because we love the way they smell. I hate the prices and the inconsistencies (and don't think they're a good thing, but rather a sign of poor production control -- batch variations don't happen with Guerlain, Chanel, Bond, Lutens, and even comparative newcomers like Tom Ford). But I can't find anything in the world better smelling than a good batch of Millesime Imperial. God knows I've tried.

But Creed does try my patience more than any other house.

+100000000. You said it much more eloquently than I could. He still doesn't get it. We buy Creeds because of the way they make us and the people around us feel. Do I care that Cary Grant or Prince Charles used GIT? Hell no. I don't even tell others that I wear Creed because they wouldn't even know what I was talking about. I also don't want other guys smelling like me.
post #110 of 178
Ok well if not Creed then what....... I read the list of frag's that are similar to a Creed fragrance. But often im reading "oh i can get a fragrance for a fraction of Creeds cost and it be just as good if not better". Im not claiming this isnt true... But if it is maybe a list of them would be great. Say a list of 20-25 colognes under $125 that are superior to creed.

Can anyone help on this issue?

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post #111 of 178
+100000000. You said it much more eloquently than I could. He still doesn't get it. We buy Creeds because of the way they make us and the people around us feel. Do I care that Cary Grant or Prince Charles used GIT? Hell no. I don't even tell others that I wear Creed because they wouldn't even know what I was talking about. I also don't want other guys smelling like me.[/QUOTE]
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Mr. Style,

I do get it and that's what's funny. Funny because Creed buyers complain and complain about many different aspects of the house they supposedly love. Don't pretend you're on a higher plane than me... I've purchased Creed products in the past. I've smelled the juice and I am aware of the hype and inconsistencies. I have in fact seen it for myself because I'm not some poor pauper with no manners. I more than get the fact that there are people who actually like Creed, I'm just not one of them.

You asked me earlier if I acted like this off-line... I could ask you the same. I'll take the bait and answer your question. Yes, I do "act like this off-line" because I'm never afraid to give my opinion. I tell it like it is and no, people don't always like me at first but it's funny how they ALWAYS respect me in the end. Come full circle, they "get it."
post #112 of 178
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Originally Posted by Style View Post

He is a salesman working on commission. They are all full of crap. An educated consumer knows that before they walk through the door.

True, but most Creed reps I met before didn't try any of this line of BS. They pretty much stuck to the product and tried to sell me on the positives, etc, not actually pumping up the negatives to make it unique,
post #113 of 178
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Originally Posted by barclaydetolly View Post

UK, I wasn't personally offended by your prior post, but reading over it I think the reason some may have taken offense is that you made it sound as if you thought all Creed buyers were just seeking to buy it at an inflated price just as a status symbol to satisfy some silly desire to emulate the rich and famous. Now I realize your point was not so categorical.

As you recognize, there are some of us who buy Creeds because we love the way they smell. I hate the prices and the inconsistencies (and don't think they're a good thing, but rather a sign of poor production control -- batch variations don't happen with Guerlain, Chanel, Bond, Lutens, and even comparative newcomers like Tom Ford). But I can't find anything in the world better smelling than a good batch of Millesime Imperial. God knows I've tried.

But Creed does try my patience more than any other house.

No worries, friend. I would never knock someone for their likes or dislikes. I was just simply stating my opinion about the house of Creed. I'm personally a big fan of Tom Ford products and I know some out there who completely dislike Tom Ford fragrances. I just get a little passionate about my opinions.
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Originally Posted by Kron View Post

On the Basenotes forum born and raised on the playground was where they spent their hating days.

Insecure and melodramtic thinking their cool
All shooting their mouths like their just outta school

When a couple of guys, they were up to no good
Started spraying Creeds and said this never withstood

Past the 30 minute mark and then they got scared
And started venting their hate although nobody cared

I whistled for a Creed and when it came near
I sprayed the scent on my neck and then it was clear

These people were wrong and only a few citric ones don't last
Lets consign these opinions as tired and ass.

I got many hours around seven or eight
And yelled to the haters Yo I can still smell this later

Looked at my Windsor it was finally there
I can't make this line rhyme so here's Fozzie Bear




WAKA WAKA HATERS!



Holy Crappers!!! This had me laughing hysterically out loud at work.

"I can't make this line rhyme so here's Fozzie Bear" = Brilliant

Good work, Kron!

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Acqua Di Gio
post #116 of 178
I think my biggest reason for liking Creed is that its easily accesible if your willing to spend the money for it yet most men will pay for stuff they find in Macys or Sephora. Therefore you have some exclusivity without having to search the web making blind purchases before being satisfied. I agree that Creed would be better if they could get there juice to have a little more kick... However i think its a great fragrance for date night. 4-5 hrs is more than enough to go to dinner and get the panties and not worry about longevity.

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Originally Posted by Style View Post

Nobody in their right mind would say that. Most Creed fans on here have said it a million times:

Creed's batch inconsistencies suck.
Creed's quality control sucks.
Creed's inflated prices suck.
Creed's marketing hyperbole sucks.

But...

Creed makes some of the best smelling fragrances in the world. Which is why many of us still stick with them.

But that seems inconsistent. Most of the complaints about Creed on here relate to a "bad batch" or an incredibly weak or off variation, so I'm not sure how anyone can be sure what they ultimately get is the "best smelling in the world."

It's Fragrance Lotto, and some Creed defenders would have us believe you can't win fragrance bliss unless you are willing to play, even if it bites your wallet good.

Heperd's ironic aside: "I guess you guys just arent sophisticated enough to own Creeds" does speak volumes about why people who spent $150+ on a small bottle of liquid that ultimately disappointed them are still willing to defend their purchase. To admit that and that they were caught up in the parade of hype is to come face to face with that disappointment, and for repeat buyers who have burned been multiple times - their failure to make rational purchasing decisions.

So instead of committing to do better, the Excuse-o-Matic (tm) from Creed's reps fires up: It isn't the fragrance that is the problem... it's your misunderstanding of the "art" contained within a flacon that is hit or miss when the top comes off. It's not that Creed is pocketing enormous profits instead of investing in quality control processes that ensure customers get a consistent product for their fragrance dollar... it's the fact you are not really good enough of a fragrance connoisseur to appreciate what they bothered to make for you and you should damn well appreciate it.

I see this kind of rhetoric in a lot of high-end marketing, especially once the curtain gets pulled back and customers discover what they were paying hundreds of dollars for only cost the company a few dollars to produce. The rest was simply ravenous profit-taking and they laughed all the way to the bank. Surprisingly, people will defend overpaying for perceived luxury goods, so long as they can be self-satisfied they own something unique and above what the little people have with their Paris Hilton and Liz Claiborne "mall scents."

After the big economic downturn, I remember reading an article in a newspaper that featured people that used to have money burning a hole in their pocket now re-evaluating their conspicuous consumption and how the shock of the Great Recession made them reconsider the real value of what they formerly blew hundreds of dollars to acquire.

Reality Check: It just wasn't worth the money.

That's basically how I feel about Creed scents. There are several that I like, but there is no way in the world I would invest hundreds of dollars on a few ounces of... something, if I wasn't absolutely certain what I was getting was exactly as expected. Fragrance manufacturers like Chanel would not think twice about dumping any batch that failed to meet consistent standards and customer expectations. Creed is doing the opposite -and- using marketing rhetoric to try and embrace that practice.

It's unconscionable in my book, especially with the price tag.

With thousands and thousands of scents to choose from, it simply is not worth the risk -- not at Creed's prices. I also think Creed devotees might also want to consider the importance of sending the company a message they have ignored for far too long. Batch inconsistency at their price point is intolerable. They obviously don't listen to customers so long as they keep shelling out money for more. But you can believe they'll hold some high level executive meetings if sales numbers suffer because of it.
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Originally Posted by Surfacing View Post

I really don't get it. I'm not trying to be rude, but why is it funny ? If he is hosting a split, chances are, he will like the fragrance. He's entitled to his opinion here.

Creed splits appealing to haters ? Why would you buy a Creed if you hate them ? I criticize them on here myself, but if I hated a particular fragrance, I would not buy it.

The point of a split is getting an expensive fragrance in a cheap bottle for a low price.
I love to see splitters appear in anti-Creed topics with screaming signatures of cheap Creed splits, since they are proving the point of the haters.

What's hard to understand?
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Sometimes when someone buys something, and pays a lot of money for it, they will hardly ever admit they made a mistake. Maybe they convince themselfes they didn't? They are not objective about it.

I am objective. If I buy something and it turn's to be bad purchase I admit it, I say I'm not satisfied, they rip me of, I admit my mistake. But I have a friend who just can't admit that he made bad purchase. Maybe he doesen't want to blame himself for spending large amount of cash for something that isn't worth it. It is probably the easy way. Say it man, if you got riped of don't lie to yourself . For example: he bought a car. The car is at the mechanic 200 days in a year but if you ask him is everything ok with the car he would response: of course, no problem whatsoever with the car, it's great! Then the winter comes and he can't turn it on, he must walk al the time. But he won't admit he mad a bad purchase!

I think the same thing goes with the fragrances. If you buy a 200$ bottle of perfume it must be great right? I mean people blind buy fragrances, they still didn't get the bottle but the are already loving it!
post #120 of 178
I will admit that Creed has some remarkebly versatile and beautiful smelling fragrances. Original Santal, SMW and GIT are absolutely amazing and I love the smell...as long as it lasts. Each of my bottles projected for (literally) 45 mins, became a skin scent within 1.5 hours and disappeared after 3 hours. My bottles were legit but, at the price I'm paying...it definitely isn't worth it. How unfortunate....if only they could be consistent.
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