May Sniff in July: A Bouquet of Mysteries - Page 2

My first guess was wrong. Warum, let's see if we can agree on one more note. Sandalwood? Musk?

Hi, TWolf, hope the move was uneventful and that you are settled in enough to have unpacked your fragrances yet. (;

I have reapplied right before I wrote a review, so I have a hard time right now since I am smelling the heart notes from both paper and me. From the memory -- how about amber or opopnax?

From your two I'd say sandalwood.

So we have four confirmed notes.
Warum, I would need to respray because I cannot feel much anymore.
I was wondering if maybe there is also violet leaf. It has a green feeling to it.

DD, OV and other sniffers (Wolfie, are you playing?) -- I search the notes and keep getting Insolence. I haven't smelled it, but from the descriptions I doubt very seriously that this is it. Can any of you who knows Insolence confirm that B is not it?

B reminds me of Bas de Soie with no hyacinth

Hello, again, I'm off to
Will check in later.

Now I'm wondering, has a perfume ever been named Lush Life?

It does. When I search and see "floral green", I perk up. I wouldn't be too surprised if it is classified as a floral green or floral. Although sometimes F. puts a floral oriental on some fragrances I'd never thought of as orientals.

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http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/261887743/Lush_Life_Creme_Parfum_1_0z_.html

Now, that makes me want to go and turn on some John Coltrane

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And let me know about Insolence, y'all.

Warum, I am sure I smelled Insolence at some point. I don't think B is it, although I am known to be mistaken. In the previous sniff I did not recognize Youth Dew although I used to own it.
I think Insolence is less elegant and not as subtle. Although I think I liked it.

Warum, I looked up Insolence. It has red berries and raspberries listed. I don;t think I smell anything like this in B.

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Have a lovely dinner, Haunani!

That's what I think too, but I just did not smell it before, wanted to be sure. I don't smell any serious red berries either.


Have a great dinner, Heidi!
I haven't tried Vanille Insensee yet, but your rec means that I will!

Of all things, todays NYT has this column, Our Newly Lush Life, by Frank Bruni.


Must be in the air!


Heard Brasilian jazz and despite going out solo, ended up sitting with some pleasant people. Good scented night, all!

Stylistically, B is not a Guerlain, it is more of Chanel type. I also thought of Calandre and Rive Gauche. Anyone getting any aldehydes at all? (green--> grey eyes in W's interpretation).

H., you will laugh all you want -- type in the revealed notes for B in the BN Directory with Advanced Search option. Getting Mariella Burani again? I am! In case you wanted to know -- B is not Mariella Burani, not the one with the four plastic orange roses as a cap.

Hello, ladies. Are you awake?

LOL, yes, I am getting Mariella Burani as well. And Insolence, which I think cannot be it. People talk about Insolence as quite a scream, and a loud scream this one is not. Plus, as DD mentioned, red berries are a large part of Insolence profile, and I don't smell it.

I won't say aldehydes for two reasons that may count and one that may not. The one that may not -- I don't smell them. But that doesn't mean anything since I do not smell them, for instance, in Eau Premierre either. But I know they're there. The other two that count -- 1) I don't connect B with any known aldehydic floral, including Rive Gauche (haven't smelled Calandre), and 2) because this sniff is 3*3*3 (I don't want to say more right now, but you will know what I mean when you reread the call).

The grey eyes were meant to describe the coldness of the heart after the herbal/citrusy top. I am one of those people who registers cold from iris and violet florals, with only a couple of notable exceptions. So I'd say I felt a similar cold from Iris Poudre, I smelled a similar live Iris from Bas de Soie (I think I mentioned that one) and had a similar cold/poison feel from Naiviris. We're not scent twins, Wolfie but that helps a lot in a Blind Sniff!


LOL, LOL, LOL -- nope, so far I can weed by hand, thanks though!!


Sounds delish! I would've had another piece of the Spring Chinook instead of a desert given a 1/2 a chance!



I am now, despite the fact that it seems like we don't have a Newport Bay on which we stand any more if one looks out of the window (fog). I will finish my coffee and spray B again. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I need to ID a couple more top notes. Will try that in a min.

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Wow, I just smelled the drydown of B again.
Am I the only one who describes is as ambery and powdery (and pretty quiet, but definitive)?
I better go and respray it.

Good morning, Warum.
I am starting to suspect that B is not on Basenotes or F-site, with notes that is.
There is L'Instant Magique, but I don't think it can be that either. And there is Escada Loving Bouquet. Based on the notes and description, I cannot exclude this one. But the perfume looks pink, and B is clear.

Yep, makes sense. Didn't H say that they are all on F and BN though? It is completely possible that B is listed on BN without notes. And it is completely possible that the notes H uses are not the same ones that are listed on the F. Makes it harder for us, I should say.

Same here re L'Instant Magique -- hard to believe that B can have honey listed. And same re Escada -- I am not familiar with the earlier fragrances of the brand, they may have been much more refined then they are these days, but still, it would be hard to believe Escada and yet I cannot exclude that one either.

I resprayed. Still stand by lemon verbena/lemon balm, but since we've IDed lemon it can be lemon + green notes, for instance

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Yes, and now since H. revealed A, I can say outloud that two things this means are that B is NOT a floral aldehyde and that B is NOT Italian, there goes my Prada reference. H., please have mercy to correct me if I did not understand the 3*3*3 conditions correctly.

Argh what if I'm wrong?
I'll guess France or the US for the country.

As to who that's marketed for... if it was a niche, I'd say unisex, easy. Like Odin Petrana (a violet in the desert), for instance. But designers are marking fragrances unisex less often than the niche lines. However, it is still pretty femme to me. A niche line would have guts to market this one for men, a designer -- don't think so (although I have just found out that Dior Homme is supposed to be a lovely fragrance suited for women and men alike). But I keep getting men's fragrances from the list of notes. I refuse to answer this question! I am stumped! My senses tell me femme. When I start thinking, I think myself into a hole. I am going to stay neither here nor there and say unisex.

H., I think contemporary, after 1989.
Definitely some green notes in the top -- I was thinking about mint, "green notes", grass.

Warum, you are doing all the great work by yourself. Well, Haunani is there, of course.
I agree that there is some green in this one. What was the answer to violet leaves?
How about the aldehydes? Musk?

I agree that this one smells very contemporary. Maybe even post 2000. I may over simplify things, but I would say it is for women.

Alrighty, y'all. Our lovely wonderful brilliant evil host Haunani squeezed me dry. I said everything that I had to say about the fragrance, and now I am off for a hike with my husband. He will not forgive me if I skip it. So I am taking B for a hike and my experience tells me that wearing a perfume for a hike exacerbates the notes in it. So... as I am climbing up toward Alsea falls, I will be thinking of y'all, Sniff, and B. Will check in toward the evening. I hope there will be some action here by the time I get back online!

Do you think there is some fruit in this one?

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Warum, enjoy the hike.

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I will ask about another note. Pepper? Not because I smell it necessarily, but because it would help narrow down the search.

I am truly surprised that this perfume is older than 1989!

Hi, I'm back. Haunani, I have Carlos Santana for Women, find it to be a summery oriental with a unisex feel, possibly influenced by the 2-and-a-half bucks "Florida water" colognes in the Latin grocery aisle.

Warum, good observations so far.

Re: the age of frag B, I, too am surprised.

Not sure of my evening plans yet, but I'm around for the next 2 hours at least.

First launched -- 1969/ 1970 (same as Rive Gauche/Calandre) -- it was the style that year. Or around it.

Aldehydes and some people do not smell them -- check Calandre on the F-site, not a sight of aldehydes in their pyramid. In fact, they are there.

Dwell on more florals, please?
Dwell on the drydown, long-lasting and with pedigree, if you wish.

Not morning yet, will be 6 am around my 10-11 pm -- I do not know if they have summer savings.

Excellent moderation of the thread.

From Warum: I won't say aldehydes for two reasons that may count and one that may not. The one that may not -- I don't smell them. Aldehydes were in B from second one, therefore Calandre/Rive Gauche references, on this skin/in this purse/on this piece of napkin. And personally, I DO connect B with several aldehydic-florals, like Madame Rochas for example, in addition to the ones I have already brought to your kind attention. Please explain Reason 2 to me in a PM (3*3*3whachemacallit).

To answer your question, H: it is a lot of work, I am still trying to locate everything, it is here but in which box? and besides, it was very hot last week.

Haunani, I did not give up searching for B. But I am a little nervous about tomorrow. I am trying to prepare. Not sure how.For now, I was out to drive a little. Yeah, I am a terrible driver, with little experience. And I will have to commute to work about 1hour each way now. That scares me sooo much!

Hi, fragrance A barely registered on me. I get the citrus/green of B, much like the huge sampler from Hillaire, very pleasant and refreshing, but, truth be told, refreshing is not my cup of tea. I like my animalics, especially as a counter to citrus—without some leather or civet the citrus is just too weightless for me. (Note: I don't experience modern musks as animalic so much as powdery)

I actually thought TWolf guessed it a long time ago!

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Was it ever confirmed that B is marketed towards women?

DD, good luck at your new job and with the commute. Just relax and have music, recorded book, or NPR on the stereo and you'll be fine.

Thank you for the wishes ladies. At this point I would not be able to listen to a book or learn a new language. I really hope I will in time, because 3 hours a day is a huge amount of time. Maybe I will finally learn Spanish. As it is, I hold on to the steering wheel and say prayers every time I need to change the lane or merge.

Maybe I have another guess for B then....

darkdreams has identified B! Good work! Care to tell us how you figured it out? Without giving away too much?

jujy, it was easy, once I ignored my own ideas.

It will be easy, if they remember one thing: this is one surprising perfume!

DD, bon chance! I will be thinking of you all morning long. Spanish is easy as compared to some other languages.

Tips on how to guess it:
1) no matter what we say (and, especially, me, blabber) read what H. has to say;
2) sniff more for notes, prim and detached floral heart, nice and long-lasting dryout;
3) trust me on Rive Gauche, Calandre and Madame Rochas -- although some/all of them can't be figured out by notes in the BN Directory (non-existing pyramids, right?) -- write down the notes for all three from elsewhere and sort them out one by one in terms of their occurrence in Sample B. You should get a fairly decent pyramid of your own. That's actually my most favoritest part of the guessing process: comparing and eliminating, I always ask you all: give me 2-3 fragrances you compare Fragrance Y with?

Back from a hike, it took longer -- quite an adventure, I enjoyed that!
I searched with and without aldehydes before I went, so it was nice to have that confirmed, but I have already covered that trail the best I could.
Surprise about the date! Is TWolf's assessment of 1969-70 confirmed, H.?
I will eat.
I might have to sleep on this one, either. In case this is so -- good night! If I make it back here today -- then see y'all later!

Just checking in to say, goodnight, all. I'll be around tomorrow morning and evening (EDT) just not afternoon.
Scented dreams!

DD, remember my guess of $12.99 for a 50ml bottle of Heaven Scent? In the case with B, the price estimate of about $65 for 50ml is very close to the price listed in the source where it is available from.

I will be here in and out -- still have to go to the hardware store to buy some paint, paint the clothing line poles, tie the ropes up, and do 4 loads of laundry. All that after work in the AM. Beauties of moving! I am also doing a mini-micro Blind Sniff for another BNer and it is fascinating.

BTW, I love B. It is a serious discovery of 2012 for me and the best fragrance I have smelled this year, bar none, this far. I sort of liked another fragrance (the newest Omnia Coral) but it is an entirely different story.

OV, I hope you will have a chance to come over and play with B. There's two of us working on it. I do not know what B is, but during a hike I smelled a couple of other notes, and I hope to hear your impressions -- two of us we can get these confirmed.