Originally Posted by Candide
I find limitations like that highly worrying because one never knows where it might end. The system tests how far it can go with certain directives that interfere with the self-determination of human beings in social contexts. People normally behave like the frog that doesn't realize the water is boiling until it has reached the boiling point - and then it's too late.
Yeah, they're pretty patient with this stuff. Years ago, we never dreamed that what happened to tobacco and now food could actually happen.
Originally Posted by DULLAH
I for one don't think this is a symptom at all of any "puritanical" ethos here in the USA. I think it's another symptom of the "new" members of the ownership society, and their neurotic over sensitivity and undue egos. The older, wasp ownership class was far from great, but these nouveau rich are far more insane and annoying. Hopefully their run is short, and long term damage minimal.
I have to admit that the new power class in America is pretty annoying. At least the old class of gents in smoke-filled rooms allowed the rest of the world to smoke.
Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh
I wouldn't get too hysterical about this. A few hospitals and government offices aren't the real world yet by any means. And, really, fragrance is EVERYWHERE nowadays. Just take a walk through your local mall. The only way most people would even notice you were wearing a fragrance is if you were drenched in the stuff. Even kids school erasers have a scent.
Your key word, is "yet", BurgundyMarsh! Hospitals and government offices are where the restrictions always
start. Then, they just kind of seep out to everywhere else, by way of California.....
Originally Posted by BurgundyMarsh
I like the part about using "less fragrant" flowers. How about plastic?
Oh, man. You just gave them the best way to do it!
If the new American scent-fascists don't glom onto that idea immediately
, they're idiots. It reeks (no pun intended) of that same "plastic" sympathy they always have for the victims of their do-goody meddling. "Just give them plastic flowers. It's the thought that counts."
Twenty bucks says real flowers are GONE from most hospitals in America in 5 years. Plastic flowers are too damn workable
So another huge swath of small businesses (florists) die, and big corporations with plastic flower factories in countries with low wages and low standards against pollution take their place. Kinda interesting. The regulators create the problem, and the anti-regulators create a problematic solution. Hey - but the people with no jobs and no health insurance get plastic flowers in the hospital!
Originally Posted by Kagey
I'm also from an Italian family (and was raised in America, just to clarify). Alcohol was ever-present at our table, and we were allowed to drink it--at our parents' discretion--from the time we were small (and even before I was allowed to wear perfume!). We were not unique in this regard. And the cops never burst in and arrested anyone. ....
Kagey, what you say is true - or rather, it WAS true. But very seriously
- if a grade-school kid today bragged to the class at show-and-tell that they had drunk a "glass" of wine or had some beer? The question is HOW MANY counselors and social workers would get dragged into things before it's over. ESPECIALLY if a single parent - or a parent that the teacher doesn't like - is involved. Not sure when you left this place, but there have been a few changes in the last decade or two.