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post #1 of 44
8/9/12 at 4:34pm
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Look no further guys, Yahoo just posted an article called "What women think of mens colognes" . Alright I admit it is no where on par with the info we could get on Basenotes but I did find it slightly amusing .


http://shopping.yahoo.com/news/what-...-colognes.html

Edit.. after looking through the whole thing it is not much of an article but I am curious as to why they chose the fragrances they did.
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post #2 of 44
8/9/12 at 5:00pm
nice find kudos
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post #3 of 44
8/9/12 at 5:16pm
Where'd that Amouage come from?!? Seems so out of place.

I enjoyed that. Especially the NY one and the polo 1. Seemed to somewhat nail those, besides from 1 being expensive, the country club American pretty much describes Polo.
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post #4 of 44
8/9/12 at 5:17pm
Amusing read.
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post #5 of 44
8/9/12 at 5:45pm
Haha. Just came here to post this.

Fun read. I liked their take on the Yankees cologne and thought the Big Pony comment would go over well here on Basenotes.

I'm actually interested in trying that L'Occitane one after reading the article.
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post #6 of 44
8/9/12 at 5:47pm
That Amouage stands out from the lineup huh. Weird.
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post #7 of 44
8/9/12 at 5:52pm
Acqua Di Gio, dark? Lol.
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post #8 of 44
8/9/12 at 5:57pm
the octaine come with 10 ounces for 50 bucks might have to buy
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post #9 of 44
8/9/12 at 5:57pm
Surprising they didn't test Basenotes' Most Hyped Fragrance, Aventus.
Hahaa.
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post #10 of 44
8/9/12 at 6:06pm
Here's another article
http://news.menshealth.com/chemical-...le/2012/08/07/
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post #11 of 44
8/9/12 at 6:18pm
A sample size of one opinion for each scent is statistically insignificant.

On top of that, I'd describe every opinion offered as at best lukewarm in terms of effectiveness for what men are looking for.

Quite frankly, if those opinions had any significance, the answer to "Everyman's question" would be to avoid all those scents and look for something more effective.
Regards,
Renato
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post #12 of 44
8/9/12 at 6:36pm
I think its always interesting to get the female opinion. I wear what I like by and large but fragrances that receive the compliments or positive comments definitely influence my usage of x fragrance, so whilst I wouldnt put much weight on these opinions or this piece its still interesting.

I would like to conduct a study of a larger sample and across a range of gourmands/leathers/ouds/citrus/fresh/aquatics etc and see which stacked up most effectively with which age groups and which socioeconomic demographics.
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post #13 of 44
8/9/12 at 6:36pm
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"This is, like, woodsy, I guess."

Basenote reviewers take note. This is how a real pro does it.
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post #14 of 44
8/9/12 at 6:39pm
lol
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post #15 of 44
8/9/12 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by kalli View Post

Acqua Di Gio, dark? Lol.

I lol'ed too
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post #16 of 44
8/9/12 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

A sample size of one opinion for each scent is statistically insignificant.

On top of that, I'd describe every opinion offered as at best lukewarm in terms of effectiveness for what men are looking for.

Quite frankly, if those opinions had any significance, the answer to "Everyman's question" would be to avoid all those scents and look for something more effective.
Regards,
Renato

The title of the thread was more of a joke and it is a Yahoo article... not exactly known for ground breaking stories . However that article will be seen by lots and lots of people, most of whom probably know very little about fragrances. I wonder if the sales of all the fragrances listed may see a spike in sales?
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post #17 of 44
8/9/12 at 7:01pm
Interesting but ..........................
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post #18 of 44
8/9/12 at 7:18pm
Dizzy broads...
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post #19 of 44
8/10/12 at 12:24am
Had a nice laugh at the AdG one.
Time to pick up a bottle of Code.
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post #20 of 44
8/10/12 at 12:30am
Funny
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post #21 of 44
8/10/12 at 12:35am
Good God, that's one of the worst 'articles' I ever read. I wonder how many braincells I lost while reading it, still I probably have more left than all of the 'reviewers' combined...
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post #22 of 44
8/10/12 at 2:58am
It certainly does not answer "every man's" questions........
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post #23 of 44
8/10/12 at 2:59am
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Originally Posted by Miket View Post

Basenote reviewers take note. This is how a real pro does it.

or like this

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"I like that. It's spicy. I feel like he would wear this (points to muscular naked man on her cigarette lighter). He'd wear this on the beach, or in the bedroom maybe, in his sick summer home."
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post #24 of 44
8/10/12 at 5:16am
Probably the comment regarding Amen by Philosophy was meant for A*men by Mugler.
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post #25 of 44
8/10/12 at 8:33am
I just read the first two pages and gave up. I've got better things to do with my time than reading the viewpoints of a bunch of superficial nubile bimbos. Anyway, who cares what they think - they wouldn't know anything about sophistication or substance, even if it came to them in the form of an intense gangbang...
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post #26 of 44
8/10/12 at 8:48am
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I just read the first two pages and gave up. I've got better things to do with my time than reading the viewpoints of a bunch of superficial nubile bimbos. Anyway, who cares what they think - they wouldn't know anything about sophistication or substance, even if it came to them in the form of an intense gangbang...

Wow. Dislike women much?
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post #27 of 44
8/10/12 at 8:54am
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Acqua Di Gio, dark? Lol.

And very heavy. Dont forget the very heavy...

A Pavement (aka Sidewalk) Vox Pops of girls in New York that Ryan Joseph from Esquire thought were fanciable (or something else beginning with f and ending in able...).

Lord help us if these women ever get into any positions of influence...
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post #28 of 44
8/10/12 at 9:01am
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Originally Posted by Kagey View Post

Wow. Dislike women much?

You wish! :-P

But for what it's worth, I'm getting really sick and tired of the dumbing down of the mass media. If they were men, I would have said the same thing but with the odd adjustment. Quite simply, I detest idiots who think they're profound.
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post #29 of 44
8/10/12 at 9:15am
Do you think they're really as dumb as they seem? I think it is trendy to seem dumb. I'll be glad when that passes.
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post #30 of 44
8/10/12 at 9:18am
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I just read the first two pages and gave up. I've got better things to do with my time than reading the viewpoints of a bunch of superficial nubile bimbos. Anyway, who cares what they think - they wouldn't know anything about sophistication or substance, even if it came to them in the form of an intense gangbang...

a little harsh...I wouldn't expect them to know anything too substantial about how to describe a fragrance, just like I would never give my opinion of a wine any merit...but I do think it's fun to see what the generic person thinks about a fragrance. Considering that's 99% of people who smell anything I wear will be close to thinking.
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post #31 of 44
8/10/12 at 11:12am
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Originally Posted by lilybelle View Post

Do you think they're really as dumb as they seem? I think it is trendy to seem dumb. I'll be glad when that passes.

Exactly! If the editor was doing their job properly, this article would never have seen the light of day. But, these days, idiocy is celebrated and revered. That's what really p***s me off. My apologies to those who may have been offended but I don't see why I should mince my words on the subject.

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Originally Posted by starshipvelcro View Post

a little harsh...I wouldn't expect them to know anything too substantial about how to describe a fragrance, just like I would never give my opinion of a wine any merit...but I do think it's fun to see what the generic person thinks about a fragrance. Considering that's 99% of people who smell anything I wear will be close to thinking.

Hence why more knowledgeable people should have been asked, instead of wasting readers' time...

Harsh?! Have you seen how standards in society has declined in the past decade or two? Instead of sweeping such issues under the carpet or chuckling it away, we should be addressing these issues no matter how strong the language. For those who were brought up when basic intelligence was still held in some regard, we at least owe it to ourselves.

Look at the TV adverts that now constantly worship stupidity, with the excuse that it's just harmless humour; read the papers now full of typo errors, misleading headlines, factual contradictions or inaccuracies, and worthless gossip (as opposed to real news); consider all the movies (especially from Hollywood) that have recently gone to great lengths to insult the viewers' intelligence (with audiences still lapping them up); and the increasing dislike of people to openly discuss anything that requires engaging brain cells or looking further within themselves (let alone taking responsibilities for their own actions).

Now ask yourself if this is the type of society that you wish to continue living in, without in any way protesting how immoral, ludicrous and pathetic it has all become...
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post #32 of 44
8/10/12 at 7:02pm
@Trebor, don't take the article too serious. It sounds like more an advertorial piece rather than editorial. It's from a fashion magazine, they do not write stuff for free, and my bet those bunch of names probably don't even exist..
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post #33 of 44
8/10/12 at 7:58pm
WOAH! Where did that wall of social commentary come from??

I mean yea, things seems to be getting dumber if you look at what's presented to you, but that's just what is most publically shown. There are plenty of places you can go to get your intellectual on. For every dumb movie, there's an indie film that has depth not shown to the majority of the public, for every terrible pop band there's an artist producing music you would find amazing. Society standards slipping? More like being hidden, but I'd even take basenotes as an example of a social oasis. Sure Facebook is trying to cram as much crap as they can down your eyehole, but find your niche and it's smooth sailing, finding people with a common interest helps.

As for society as a whole, yes, they're dumb, but it's always been that way, it's just easier now. I wish it was different, but it's human nature it seems. But, I can at least comfort myself in the fact that I feel superior to most people If they choose to be uneducated wastes of life so be it, but what matters in your life in yourself.

I'll stop myself there and just say...this article was not written for people on this forum, you have to take that into consideration. No one reading that article will know about Frederic Malle, or the in house perfumer of Hermes...they want to know what smells good, and showing the reactions of people to what they're smelling is a good way of doing that.

I can think back to a time where I couldn't separate a note from another for the life of me, it's not easy without training your nose at least a little. The mash-up of notes can be overwhelming to a new nose and it won't smell distinct it will smell like an amorphous blob of scent. The opinion won't be do you smell the vetiver in the base or do you detect a muskiness, it will be yes or no does this smell good.

Al from Streetscents is a good example of this, I find it entertaining to see what people off the streets say about a fragrance, you can really see the gap.

Now, I'm not exactly sure how you spun all that off of this easy to digest article...but don't read into it, it's a simple thing...other peoples first smells of the given fragrances.

And let's be honest...yahoo and esquire aren't exactly where you go to fill your intellectual void
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post #34 of 44
8/10/12 at 10:01pm
As someone wrote in the comments on the first link - sounds like thinly veiled product placement, as they do in every single magazine when "recommending" products.

Edit: DP!
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post #35 of 44
8/10/12 at 11:50pm
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Originally Posted by Trebor View Post

Have you seen how standards in society has declined in the past decade or two? Instead of sweeping such issues under the carpet or chuckling it away, we should be addressing these issues no matter how strong the language. For those who were brought up when basic intelligence was still held in some regard, we at least owe it to ourselves.

Look at the TV adverts that now constantly worship stupidity, with the excuse that it's just harmless humour; read the papers now full of typo errors, misleading headlines, factual contradictions or inaccuracies, and worthless gossip (as opposed to real news); consider all the movies (especially from Hollywood) that have recently gone to great lengths to insult the viewers' intelligence (with audiences still lapping them up); and the increasing dislike of people to openly discuss anything that requires engaging brain cells or looking further within themselves (let alone taking responsibilities for their own actions).

Now ask yourself if this is the type of society that you wish to continue living in, without in any way protesting how immoral, ludicrous and pathetic it has all become...

For what it's worth, I agree wholeheartedly and feel intense frustration with what often passes for intelligent thought or debate these days. On that point, everyone should google and read Orwell's essay on political writing. It's just unfortunate that you undermine your entire soapbox screed about morality and societal standards with a misplaced and uninformed assertion about sexual violence against "nubile bimbos." For info: saying "shocking" things doesn't make you sound smart.

And also, nobody's stupid enough to hold Esquire to high standards of moral seriousness (I suspect not even Esquire), and that article didn't claim to be anything more than it was. In the end, if people didn't eat that stuff up, it would disappear.
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post #36 of 44
8/10/12 at 11:58pm
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Originally Posted by starshipvelcro View Post

WOAH! Where did that wall of social commentary come from??

I mean yea, things seems to be getting dumber if you look at what's presented to you, but that's just what is most publically shown. There are plenty of places you can go to get your intellectual on. For every dumb movie, there's an indie film that has depth not shown to the majority of the public, for every terrible pop band there's an artist producing music you would find amazing. Society standards slipping? More like being hidden, but I'd even take basenotes as an example of a social oasis. Sure Facebook is trying to cram as much crap as they can down your eyehole, but find your niche and it's smooth sailing, finding people with a common interest helps.

As for society as a whole, yes, they're dumb, but it's always been that way, it's just easier now. I wish it was different, but it's human nature it seems. But, I can at least comfort myself in the fact that I feel superior to most people If they choose to be uneducated wastes of life so be it, but what matters in your life in yourself.

I'll stop myself there and just say...this article was not written for people on this forum, you have to take that into consideration. No one reading that article will know about Frederic Malle, or the in house perfumer of Hermes...they want to know what smells good, and showing the reactions of people to what they're smelling is a good way of doing that.

I can think back to a time where I couldn't separate a note from another for the life of me, it's not easy without training your nose at least a little. The mash-up of notes can be overwhelming to a new nose and it won't smell distinct it will smell like an amorphous blob of scent. The opinion won't be do you smell the vetiver in the base or do you detect a muskiness, it will be yes or no does this smell good.

Al from Streetscents is a good example of this, I find it entertaining to see what people off the streets say about a fragrance, you can really see the gap.

Now, I'm not exactly sure how you spun all that off of this easy to digest article...but don't read into it, it's a simple thing...other peoples first smells of the given fragrances.

And let's be honest...yahoo and esquire aren't exactly where you go to fill your intellectual void

I think you're missing the point - all this crap is greatly affecting how people interact with each other in all aspects of everyday life. Do you remember when people had more manners? When people actually apologised for their own mistakes? Once again, sweeping things under the carpet...

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Originally Posted by Kagey View Post

For what it's worth, I agree wholeheartedly and feel intense frustration with what often passes for intelligent thought or debate these days. On that point, everyone should google and read Orwell's essay on political writing. It's just unfortunate that you undermine your entire soapbox screed about morality and societal standards with a misplaced and uninformed assertion about sexual violence against "nubile bimbos." For info: saying "shocking" things doesn't make you sound smart.

And also, nobody's stupid enough to hold Esquire to high standards of moral seriousness (I suspect not even Esquire), and that article didn't claim to be anything more than it was. In the end, if people didn't eat that stuff up, it would disappear.

Typical. You've latched onto one phrase in my post (which, by the way, is actually defined as consensual) and won't let go, just because of your own personal sexual/post-feminist hang-ups. Not my problem to be honest. I don't see women being reprimanded for speaking about men in disparaging or hateful tones (even though I was only referring to the silly women in the article and not to women in general). What was that about equality? From where I'm standing I don't think I've undermined 'soapbox screed about morality and societal standards' (sic). Actually, your comments have just reinforced what I've been saying.

Hypocrite.

Anyway, I'm done here. Ciao!
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post #37 of 44
8/11/12 at 12:27am
Thanks for sharing. Actually, a quite extensive cross-section of various immediate impressions from the fragrance market.
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post #38 of 44
8/11/12 at 7:37am
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A Pavement (aka Sidewalk) Vox Pops of girls in New York that Ryan Joseph from Esquire thought were fanciable (or something else beginning with f and ending in able...).

Lord help us if these women ever get into any positions of influence...


"positions of influence"
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post #39 of 44
8/11/12 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by Trebor View Post

Typical. You've latched onto one phrase in my post (which, by the way, is actually defined as consensual) and won't let go, just because of your own personal sexual/post-feminist hang-ups. Not my problem to be honest. I don't see women being reprimanded for speaking about men in disparaging or hateful tones (even though I was only referring to the silly women in the article and not to women in general). What was that about equality? From where I'm standing I don't think I've undermined 'soapbox screed about morality and societal standards' (sic). Actually, your comments have just reinforced what I've been saying.

Hypocrite.

Actually, it's not defined as consensual where I come from.

Read anything I've written and tell me where I've been disparaging or hateful about men. On the other hand, you have a pretty solid history of disparaging comments about women. Even when there's good cause to criticize, you can't just stick to the point: a woman says something rather inane about a perfume, you turn it into a sexual insult. Victoria Christian makes herself look really silly, you ask whether she gives good head. For someone who claims to care about sophistication and substance, it's really disappointing that you can't seem to come up with the vision to argue on the merits.
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post #40 of 44
8/11/12 at 10:44am
Wow, seems as if we have a rats-5 llort infecting the thread.
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post #41 of 44
8/11/12 at 12:34pm
I didn't get the impression that this is Trebor's opinion of young women in general, but rather his impression of this particular type of young woman's expression of her own intelligence. There is a difference. There is this trend of dumbness - of dumbing down, of appearing unintelligent - that is pervasive, whether or not the person is in fact unintelligent. There are plenty of mimbos to every bimbo (whether or not they really are bimbos and mimbos, it seems to be trendy to appear so - AND THAT IS THE POINT). I'm inclined to agree with Trebor, even if his language doesn't sit well with everybody. At least he is honest, but he often expresses his views (and frustration) in sarcasm, which is probably lost on some people. I totally understand the frustration.
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post #42 of 44
8/11/12 at 1:10pm
Another quality article from the experts at Yahoo.
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post #43 of 44
8/11/12 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by Renato View Post

A sample size of one opinion for each scent is statistically insignificant.

On top of that, I'd describe every opinion offered as at best lukewarm in terms of effectiveness for what men are looking for.

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Originally Posted by zubi View Post

As someone wrote in the comments on the first link - sounds like thinly veiled product placement, as they do in every single magazine when "recommending" products.

These ^^^^^ sum up the article well.
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post #44 of 44
8/12/12 at 1:28am
My favourite part was the sick summer house, and Jenniel D, aged 34, admitting she enjoys the scent of a "fratty, total prepster".

Also for what it's worth, describing these women who expressed superficial opinions as "nubile" and "wouldn't know substance even if it ejaculated on her during a gangbang" irrelevantly foregrounds them as sexual beings and has strong misogynist overtones - Trebor you should just own up to it and apologise, you're in the wrong.
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