Originally Posted by yteek
Its good that someone is understanding of my point without bring the lynch mob of heated Kerosene fans(pun?)
Nothing like a good pun!
I need to sniff Wood Haven. Still haven't gotten around to ordering my samples.
More than even the truth that's been said, I think that Kerosene's brand has a pretty firm footing now, so (in my opinion) it's actually damaging to the brand to have any association with fanboy comments, which look dubious and don't really convince anybody anyway.
I think when a perfumer is just getting started, it's good for commenters to be very careful - yet very honest - about what the stuff is like. Fanboy comments are almost as bad as a nasty trash. But an honest description can be really helpful, even when it's negative, since some people's negatives are reliable positives for others.
I loved R'oud Elements, and was really surprised by how good it was. Total FBW - and in my opinion it's a damn good thing he rolled that one out first. Creature showed talent, IMO, but way too strange to have been a good intro frag. Copper Skies was good, being more conventional, but I think that R'oud was still better, so that's what you would want for the initial roll-out frag - not second-best.
I have yet to sniff the newest ones, but the first 3 data points are enough for me to know that they will very likely not be fails. And with Mark Behnke liking one of the new ones - and he was NOT sold on R'oud - that's a really good sign (I think he liked Santalum Slivers). But no way am I collecting Kerosene like playing cards - especially at the new price (total agree).
Slumberhouse is another one of these interesting startups. Like I said, it's important not to needlessly trash the style, but no reason to be fanboy either. I think Slumberhouse are decent, but I'm just not into that style at all right now, so they're a pass. But I was very heavily into that style at one time (Neil Morris was the closest thing to modern American masculine parfum strength back then), and I know that it's a style that deserves respect.
This is kinda off-topic, but kinda not.
We're not the only people watching this phenomenon of American male fragrance lovers turning into perfumers. The industry is clearly taking notice. In case any of you are following the new olfactory wing at the MAD museum in NYC - there are going to be classes there, taught by some top American perfumers. So if anybody is reading this thread and wondering what it might be like to begin dabbling - here you go. Three classes this fall. I almost can't believe they're doing this. Such an amazing opportunity. I almost wish I lived there. Almost. http://madmuseum.org/series/olfactory-engineering-workshops-scent