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post #1 of 17
9/12/12 at 12:32am
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What is bubblegum fragrance? I keep coming across fragrances which have what I would call a bubble gum note, and I assume it's a combination of several different fragrances. I'm talking about classic pink bubblegum smell that everyone knows but no one seems to be able to accurately describe. I'm guessing wintergreen, cloves, cinnamon, and maybe some orange, and maybe some florals. Does anyone know how bubblegum flavor is made? I've searched the Web and I can't seem to find a definitive answer.

Right now I'm smelling the drydown of Aziyadé by Parfums d'Empire and getting a distinct bubblegum thing. I often notice it in sweet oriental scents.
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post #2 of 17
9/12/12 at 1:44am
Depends which country you live in. In England a typical Bubblegum fragrance would consist of Orange Oil plus various esters such as Ethyl Butyrate and Vanillin. In America (and from your description Canada) it would be something spicy such as is found in Dentine. Cassia plus Methyl Salicylate etc. The flavour is made by mixing together various oils and chemicals just like making a perfume.
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post #3 of 17
9/12/12 at 2:00am
Check this out: http://www.demeterfragrance.com/7040...ubble-Gum.html

Here's something else you could explore:

The flowers of the shrub Philadelphus, aka "Mock Orange", are often described as having a bubble-gum like scent. (Shouldn't be difficult for you to find in a nursery/garden centre - it's a native of North America). Here in the UK, it flowers June-July.
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post #4 of 17
9/12/12 at 6:02am
Jasmine can often take on a strong bubblegum personality.
Noteable examples are
Bubblegum Chic Heeley
Love By Kilian
Tubereuse 3 Animale Histoires De Parfums
Charogne Etat Libre D'Orange
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post #5 of 17
9/13/12 at 5:00am
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Thanks for the replies. David, you're spot on with that description.

I found a blog which gives a bit more information. It seems bubblegum flavor contains flavors from orange oil, wintergreen oil, vanillin and cassia, all synthetics, which when mixed together become indistinguishable. This makes sense as the fragrance seems to be a specific scent unto itself, not discernible as a combination of separate notes, which according to the most informative page on the subject I could find, is because all the scents are of high amplitude. The article refers to flavor, but I imagine the same might be true of fragrance. I think it's why I detect what I call "bubblegum" in various fragrances, as the effect of a number of high-amplitude scents combining to make the distinct impression of bubblegum. Some fragrant flowers indeed have such a combination of aromatic qualities with orange-citrus, wintergreen, cinnamon and vanilla notes.

http://wolfewithane.squarespace.com/...ubble-gum.html
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post #6 of 17
9/13/12 at 5:55am
When I looked up Ethyl Butyrate on Perfumer's Apprentice, it was described as having a "banana/pineapple fruity-ness". I think the "banana" quality may actually be the x-factor that makes something smell like bubblegum. I don't really think of pink bubblegum as having a particularly citric, minty, or cinnamon smell, although those qualities may be present. But as I think of it, a synthetic banana note, combined with vanilla, would fit perfectly.

As for fragrances that trigger thoughts of bubblegum, "Gaultier 2" always had a bubblegum-ishness to my nose. I think of that fragrance as being pink bubblegum (specifically Bazooka) plus amber.
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post #7 of 17
9/13/12 at 6:35am
Many esters have a "bubble gum" feel. Jasmin contains a huge amount of Benzyl Acetate which many describe as Bubblegum. Amyl Acetate is another. In England I doubt if Wintergreen, or more likely Methyl Salicylate, would be used. Methyl Sal is associated with muscle rubs here, whilst in America it is put into drinks and candy. Orange Oil ( a natural) would be used. Cassia is also a natural oil although it is more likely that Cinnamic Aldehyde (major component) would be used as it's cheaper. Again, more likely to come across it is America which is fanatical about Cinnamon.
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post #8 of 17
9/25/12 at 2:04am
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When I looked up Ethyl Butyrate on Perfumer's Apprentice, it was described as having a "banana/pineapple fruity-ness".


Believe it or not, I can smell traces of Ethyl Butyrate in human's vomit.
(LA2000 if you're looking for a banana smelling aromachemical I'd suggest looking elsewhere. Ethyl butyrate is more pineapple IMO).
Now, orange is undoubtedly a bubblegum smell component but it it more a combo of orange with green mandarin that does it for me.
Again, as David says, different people might have a different idea about it.
In my mind, "big babol" is the reference. "Allure for women" has an intense bubblegum aura as I remember it.
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post #9 of 17
9/25/12 at 11:45am
The smell you are detecting in vomit is probably butyric acid. Every sample of Ethyl Butyrate will contain a very small amount of the acid; you don't need much as it is very strong. It is also the smell of cheese and sour milk, and rancid butter; hence the name.

Banana note can be created using Amyl Acetate, Hexenol (or tripal; anyway, something green) and a touch of eugenol or Clove Bud oil.
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post #10 of 17
9/25/12 at 3:23pm
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I am impressed David.
I don't have access to amyl acetate anymore. If there's something else that's close to it, let me know.
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post #11 of 17
9/26/12 at 1:14am
You could try Benzyl Acetate, or (more expensive) Prenyl Acetate. If you can't get Amyl Acetate, and I'm surprised as it is very common, you my have problems getting the others.
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9/26/12 at 1:53am
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If you could suggest me a provider because I haven't been able to find it in any of the businesses I usually buy (and I do buy in small quantities).
Also, now that you mentioned it, Benzyl Acetate with Orange does give a lovely bubblegum opening!
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post #13 of 17
9/26/12 at 9:27am
ION why don't you Google "Suppliers of Amyl Acetate"; there's loads. I had a very quick look and found a few that would provide 25.0 ml or 50.0ml samples. If you really want Banana then Amyl Acetate is vital.
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post #14 of 17
9/26/12 at 11:26am
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Thank you David. I have tried in the past and got hold of it, once. Further efforts have proved fruitless. I suspect its high flammability and import regulations must be the cause of that.
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post #15 of 17
9/27/12 at 1:15am
Transportation may be a problem as Amyl Acetate is quite flammable; I hadn't thought of that.
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post #16 of 17
10/5/12 at 2:16am
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Originally Posted by HDD8

The flowers of the shrub Philadelphus, aka "Mock Orange", are often described as having a bubble-gum like scent. (Shouldn't be difficult for you to find in a nursery/garden centre - it's a native of North America). Here in the UK, it flowers June-July.

It is actually the Belle Etoile variety of Philadelphus which smells of Juicy Fruit gum by Wrigleys, not bubblegum.
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post #17 of 17
3/13/13 at 4:01pm
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Jasmine can often take on a strong bubblegum personality.
Noteable examples are
Bubblegum Chic Heeley

I got the same sensation with this one too.
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