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post #61 of 216
9/21/12 at 7:56am
Indeed. Best-sellers and popular crowd-pleasers are seldom 'great', from techical standpoints. All the stars (concept, quality, technique, originality, timing, sales & marketing, etc) probably need to align before we get another Chanel No. 5 or Shalimar phenomenon.
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post #62 of 216
9/21/12 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by lilybelle View Post

p.s. adding...I'm not comfortable calling something "good" or "art" just because it sells well. Sales and markets are manipulative.

I agree totally, what I was saying is that JUST BECAUSE the masses like something, it shouldn't be looked down on. There are some folks on Basenotes who ridicule and put down every "dept. store" fragrance as garbage. That just isn't right
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post #63 of 216
9/21/12 at 8:27am
I think the point is if enough people don't like a frag (or art for that matter) then you could say it was overrated, but that would take a huge poll. The sales figures and longevity themselves surely bear out the facts. If enough people like it to make it a success, then either the sales marketing was pretty good or it isn't overrated. If the former, then it just wouldn't last long. If anything has been around for some time, and isn't particularly cheap, then it must be regularly rated pretty well and rated over the competition by somebody holding a purse or wallet.
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post #64 of 216
9/21/12 at 8:33am
Only have tried it once, not sure which version and if it was in good condition, but +1 No 5.

Also really can't see the attraction of Tommy Girl which seems to have
been massively popular and receives good reviews from experienced noses still.

As for overrated online, on BN and Fragrantica, probably Dirty English. Safari too. I'd even have to add Devin, though it's not a bad scent.
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post #65 of 216
9/21/12 at 8:46am
I think Mitsouko. I've tried it and I didn't like it. Maybe the vintage one is better but I find Shalimar superior to it.
I've also tried No.5-didn't like it . No.19 is much better imo.
Just a curiosity: I've asked many women,ages 25-50, ( including my wife) if they like No.5 and every time I got negative answers.
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post #66 of 216
9/21/12 at 9:06am
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Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post

Indeed. Best-sellers and popular crowd-pleasers are seldom 'great', from techical standpoints. All the stars (concept, quality, technique, originality, timing, sales & marketing, etc) probably need to align before we get another Chanel No. 5 or Shalimar phenomenon.

+1 Like the planets.....
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post #67 of 216
9/21/12 at 9:08am
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Originally Posted by Possum-Pie View Post

I agree totally, what I was saying is that JUST BECAUSE the masses like something, it shouldn't be looked down on. There are some folks on Basenotes who ridicule and put down every "dept. store" fragrance as garbage. That just isn't right

Not on the female board! Well, obviously for a fragrance to sell so well over so many years it must have something going for it - other than a name. Except for le Monstre No. 5, which is - IMHO - overrated. I think it is well accepted that it is overrated, but it sells because it is Chanel, le Monstre. But here again, we are talking about marketing and public perception. Not to say that there are not plenty of people who genuinely love No. 5, myself included depending on which day you ask me, but I think there are far more bottles of No. 5 sold than there are people who really love thefragrance. Personally, I'm just as happy - happier in fact - to wear my drugstore Chantilly. It has the same strange metallic note that No. 5 edt does on my skin, except that that note fades faster in Chantilly.

Ciprian, I do not like to wear Mitsouko. Every time I try I must scrub it off. But I love it anyway. I wish I could enjoy it. I think it is beautiful and evocative of all kinds of things, but I just can't wear it. It is not meant for me. It is alien and does not become part of me. In that case, I wouldn't say it is overrated, just not for me. Again...just my opinion.
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post #68 of 216
9/21/12 at 9:16am
Any and all fragrances by

CREED

I have smelled and analyzed all of them and there isn't a single one I feel is worthy of retaining my interest. This, obviously, is merely my own opinion. I do not intend to present it in the guise of fact.

As it is said in French: Les Gouts et les couleurs ne se dicutent pas.
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post #69 of 216
9/21/12 at 9:57am
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Originally Posted by forfreddie View Post

Ambre Sultan and Ambre Precieux - whilst they're not the most talked about - they are two of the most overrated amber's. I don't enjoy either.

I can completely agree.
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post #70 of 216
9/21/12 at 10:46am
Terre d'Hermes is the most overrated, I think. I just don't get what people see in this one.

Pure Malt is up there too.
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post #71 of 216
9/22/12 at 10:11am
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Originally Posted by MHV View Post

F****ing A*Men Pure Malt.

Makes me gag, and is an offense to whisky. Worn by whiners who can't wait for the next reissue, because it's SO RARE that it reeks all over the cheap frag stores.

A pox on your head!

THAT'S a definitive opinion!!!!
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post #72 of 216
9/22/12 at 8:45pm
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Originally Posted by le mouchoir de monsieur View Post

Any and all fragrances by

CREED

I have smelled and analyzed all of them and there isn't a single one I feel is worthy of retaining my interest. This, obviously, is merely my own opinion. I do not intend to present it in the guise of fact.

As it is said in French: Les Gouts et les couleurs ne se dicutent pas.

I agree with this except I do enjoy VIW, not enough to buy it, but I traded for it and haven't regretted it.
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post #73 of 216
9/22/12 at 9:40pm
Aventus and Creed aren't overrated. At least in my eyes. I also love Pure Malt and Cool Water. But this is just me.

They don't appeal to everyone, but the people these all appeal to, seem to love it.

If I had to pick one fragrance that's overrated, it would be Issey Miyake.
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post #74 of 216
9/22/12 at 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by le mouchoir de monsieur View Post

Any and all fragrances by

CREED

I have smelled and analyzed all of them and there isn't a single one I feel is worthy of retaining my interest. This, obviously, is merely my own opinion. I do not intend to present it in the guise of fact.

As it is said in French: Les Gouts et les couleurs ne se dicutent pas.

Any reason for posting at size 5 and larger?
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post #75 of 216
9/23/12 at 3:25am
Tobacco Vanille - lovely opening and then a mind numbing relentless vanilla that probably comes staright off the shelf at one of the labs. A textbook case of front loading IMO.
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post #76 of 216
9/23/12 at 3:54am
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Originally Posted by mr. reasonable View Post

Tobacco Vanille - lovely opening and then a mind numbing relentless vanilla that probably comes staright off the shelf at one of the labs. A textbook case of front loading IMO.

Agreed. Tobacco Vanille: The first 5 min. are wonderful...then the dry down I could get from spritzing a bottle of vanilla extract on me.
As for Creed and especially Aventus...Even if they had longevity, and even if I even half liked Aventus...They are so over analyzed, and over talked about it makes me sick...COME ON...I followed a 3-page thread explaining the variations of the BATCH NUMBERS of AVENTUS!! GAG...
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post #77 of 216
9/23/12 at 6:27am
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post #78 of 216
9/23/12 at 6:48am
I followed a 3-page thread explaining the variations of the BATCH NUMBERS of AVENTUS!! GAG...[/QUOTE]


You deserve your misery then :-)
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post #79 of 216
9/23/12 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by martinijo View Post

I followed a 3-page thread explaining the variations of the BATCH NUMBERS of AVENTUS!! GAG...


You deserve your misery then :-)[/QUOTE]

True, you can tell I am addicted to Basenotes!!! I get email notices every time someone posts in a thread I post in, so 5-6 times a day I was getting emails about desperate people pleading for any information about batch number RT559565CVC$$#55343434
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post #80 of 216
9/23/12 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by Possum-Pie View Post

You deserve your misery then :-)

True, you can tell I am addicted to Basenotes!!! I get email notices every time someone posts in a thread I post in, so 5-6 times a day I was getting emails about desperate people pleading for any information about batch number RT559565CVC$$#55343434[/QUOTE]

Another tactic by Creed to make them appear more exclusive.
Don't believe the hype.
I think there are many of us out there getting our inboxes flooded all day long.
We are all addicts...
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post #81 of 216
9/23/12 at 1:03pm
I don't think Aventus is overrated as much as it is over hyped. It's mentioned so often these days that it becomes anticlimactic when people try it.
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post #82 of 216
9/23/12 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by broxwood View Post

I don't think Aventus is overrated as much as it is over hyped. It's mentioned so often these days that it becomes anticlimactic when people try it.


I agree with this opinion.
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post #83 of 216
9/23/12 at 3:53pm
Send me some and I'll tell you.... lol
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post #84 of 216
9/23/12 at 7:17pm
Estee Lauder Pleasures. Chanel No5 is great art.
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post #85 of 216
9/24/12 at 8:04pm
The initial Grossmith line - Hasu No Hana - Phul Na Na - Shem Al Nessim
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post #86 of 216
9/24/12 at 8:13pm
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post #87 of 216
9/24/12 at 8:31pm
Habanita! Even tho it has been around forever. It is bloody good!!! ♥♥♥♥♥
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post #88 of 216
9/24/12 at 9:57pm
Solara Homme
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post #89 of 216
9/25/12 at 3:19am
XPEC Original


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post #90 of 216
9/25/12 at 3:25am
Bursch by Acqua di Biella and Coeur de Vetiver Sacré by L'Artisan both top my list.
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post #91 of 216
9/25/12 at 6:48am
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post #92 of 216
9/25/12 at 6:56am
I'm going simple..Armani Mania. Pretty linear Cedar and Cashmere musk but I love it and think its great for work or casual weekends. Clean and crisp.
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post #93 of 216
9/25/12 at 7:31am
Based strictly on what I know and like, among others: Ungaro II, Loewe para Hombre, Joint by Roccobarocco, Davidoff Relax, Boss Elements, Gucci Nobile, YSL pour Homme, Lanvin Vetiver and many more I can not remember right now, but I do have a feeling of "not getting much love" outside Basenotes.
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post #94 of 216
9/25/12 at 9:23am
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post #95 of 216
9/25/12 at 9:25am
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post #96 of 216
9/25/12 at 10:33am
Mark Birley For Men
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post #97 of 216
9/25/12 at 10:44am
Lalique White. Encre Noir gets all the attention, but White is a beautiful summer fragrance.
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post #98 of 216
9/25/12 at 11:57am
for the autumn season, my most underrated scent right now is Tilda Swinton Like this. Spectacular pumpkin gourmand. Recalls Autumn smells well.
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post #99 of 216
9/25/12 at 11:59am
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post #100 of 216
9/25/12 at 12:25pm
ST Barth Homme. 5 stars fragance
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post #101 of 216
9/25/12 at 2:38pm
U know....Van Cleef & Arpels is underrated, cause like MIP smells fantastic, Feerie is an amazing fruity fragrance, Tsar and Pour Homme although not my cup of tea (too masculine) are perfect specimens of their genre and frankly I prefer them to the other ultra masculine classics. All of these are underrated imo.
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post #102 of 216
9/25/12 at 8:55pm
Creed MI. I just don't get why this is one of their most popular frags. I mean, it's not a bad fragrance, but I just don't get it's hype. All I smell is faint melon & sharp, dry saltwater with very poor longevity. Safe summer scent, I suppose, but have a hard time understanding why it's one of their most popular offerings.
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post #103 of 216
9/26/12 at 10:59pm
Many creeds (milesime bla bla) and many Bonds smell so cheap and synthetic.
Mugler cologne.
Bleu de Chanel.
And many more...
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post #104 of 216
9/26/12 at 11:06pm
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Originally Posted by le mouchoir de monsieur View Post

Any and all fragrances by

CREED

I have smelled and analyzed all of them and there isn't a single one I feel is worthy of retaining my interest. This, obviously, is merely my own opinion. I do not intend to present it in the guise of fact.

As it is said in French: Les Gouts et les couleurs ne se dicutent pas.

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post #105 of 216
10/2/12 at 3:22pm
So, this is the opposite of yesterday's thread I posted: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/312...n-Your-Opinion

This time let's look at some fragrances that haven't lived up to their names. I'm talking about frags that have been highly regarded in the frag community but have not lived up to your expectations (in your opinion).

I sometimes wonder why AdG is sooo highly regarded.....to me it's a fragrance that basically does nothing for me.

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post #106 of 216
10/2/12 at 3:34pm
DHI and Aventus.

There I said it. /thread
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post #107 of 216
10/2/12 at 3:38pm
This will be considered blasphemy.. But.. Dare I say it.. Pure Malt!! Luckily my bottle is still wrapped up.. So if the day comes where I fully decide that I don't like it I'll flip it. Have a decant of it that i sniff from time to time but can never decide if its for me or not..
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post #108 of 216
10/2/12 at 3:45pm
Egoiste.
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post #109 of 216
10/2/12 at 3:51pm
Aventus, Green Irish Tweed, Tuscan Leather, Knize Ten, and Black Afgano. I probably have hundreds of people now that want to kill me.
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post #110 of 216
10/2/12 at 3:55pm
In order:

1. Egoiste (do not like it whatsoever)
2. Aventus (it's just okay)
3. Millesime Imperial



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post #111 of 216
10/2/12 at 3:55pm
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The Dreamer by Versace
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post #112 of 216
10/2/12 at 3:58pm
DHI and Tobacco Vanille
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post #113 of 216
10/2/12 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by misterjuiceman View Post

Aventus, Green Irish Tweed, Tuscan Leather, Knize Ten, and Black Afgano. I probably have hundreds of people now that want to kill me.

lol....sure!!!

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Originally Posted by del View Post

The Dreamer by Versace

I almost added this!!!
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post #114 of 216
10/2/12 at 4:12pm
All of my Avon fragrances.
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post #115 of 216
10/2/12 at 4:16pm
aventus
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post #116 of 216
10/2/12 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by silentrich View Post

All of my Avon fragrances.

Are Avon frags overrated? hmm, news to me!
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post #117 of 216
10/2/12 at 4:27pm
It's a tie between Bois du Portugal and Vintage Taberome.
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post #118 of 216
10/2/12 at 4:27pm
Pure Malt
Pure Havanne
L'Instant de Guerlain Extreme (Just Kidding)
Millesime Imperiale
Tonka Imperiale
New Haarlem
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post #119 of 216
10/2/12 at 4:30pm
La Nuit De L'Homme by Yves Saint Laurent is too saccharine and teeters on the feminine side.
And, to make matters worst, it is a humdrum composition, at best.
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post #120 of 216
10/2/12 at 4:38pm
Bous du Portugal? Gasp!
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