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Did Frank Sinatra really use Creed's Bois du Portugal as a signature scent?

post #1 of 37
Thread Starter 
I have heard this this said on numerous occasions and I believe the Creed house also makes this representation. Does anyone have anything to substantiate this? I am curious because I happen to love the fragrance and would like to know more about its history. Thank you.
post #2 of 37
Unfortunatley I've not found anything to validate this
post #3 of 37
I doubt it. Creed talk all sorts of BS.
post #4 of 37
According to the Sinatra Family forum, his favorite cologne was 'Agua Lavender Puig.

http://sinatrafamily.com/forum/frank...erged%5D-6028/
post #5 of 37
yeah word around the community is that this is bullcrap
post #6 of 37
I think next time I am at the Creed counter I am going to just come out and call BS. They say it ALL the time about Frank Sinatra. IMO I don't really care if Frank Sinatra or King Tut wore it. If it smells good, it smells good. If it smelled bad but Frank Sinatra wore it, would you wear it?
post #7 of 37
He personally told my Grandad that he did not wear any scent made by Creed.

Joking.

Seriously... who cares?
post #8 of 37
Thread Starter 
I love the scent irregardless of whether or not Sinatra wore it. I was just curious as to whether or not anything that the Creed House says about Bois du Portugal, is of any truth.
post #9 of 37
Yes. When I saw him at the Sands in the late 80's.
post #10 of 37
Whether he did or not doesn't change the fact that it's a wonderful scent IMO.
post #11 of 37
I think that claim is false, but I do think Charlemagne wore BdP. Got to go find my history textbooks and take a look again.
post #12 of 37
Abe Lincoln, JFK, and Reagan were wearing it the night they was shot.
post #13 of 37
I'd ask Sinatra in person. But he's dead. How convenient, isn't it? If a Creed sales rep were to unload this pile of crap on me I can't promise I won't laugh loudly to his face.
post #14 of 37
Yet another reason I won't give my business to creed. As good as there scents are I refuse to give my money to bad business eithics and practice.
post #15 of 37
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Originally Posted by SpicyPepper View Post

Yet another reason I won't give my business to creed. As good as there scents are I refuse to give my money to bad business eithics and practice.

Don't you think you might be a little to uptight. Why not get into the spirit of it and pretend you are in the company of royalty and presidents?
post #16 of 37
For me, personally, I don't give a damn about their self-proclaimed "history". All I care about is how the fragrance smells. I love most of their fragrances; and that is why I choose to continue buying them. Albeit, at the grey market prices and splits, of course. No way would I pay retail.
post #17 of 37
I would pay retail if I had to, albeit more slowly.
post #18 of 37
According to Fragrantica it came out in 1987, and Sinatra died in the late 90's, so if he did, he was really old at the time.
post #19 of 37
Bad marketing is something you rarely repeat nor remember. Good marketing is something you repeat or remember. Great marketing is something you dispute. Marketing is just a hyperbole. Ask P.T. Barnum.

Seems like Creed has done their job and done it well. I've personally not fallen for any of it. Don't care. It (the scent) either strikes my fancy or it doesn't without regard to who might have been a patron before me.
post #20 of 37
Someone in his family probably bought a bottle for him as a gift and rumors spread like wildfire before Creed latched onto it for marketing purposes. He was like 72 when the fragrance came out, so if it was a signature scent for him, it wasn't for very much of his life....
post #21 of 37
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Originally Posted by OctaVariuM View Post

According to Fragrantica it came out in 1987, and Sinatra died in the late 90's, so if he did, he was really old at the time.

Yeah, come to think of it, pushing a scent that a 72-year-old called his signature scent not too wise.

The funnier one is that Green Irish Tweed was supposedly developed for Cary Grant. He was 80 when it came out and died two years later. He was Mr. Suave, but does anybody under 60 want to smell like an 80-year-old?
post #22 of 37
In the art biz some portraitists paint one of someone "famous" and send it to him/her for free. Then you know what they say? I painted so-and-sos portrait.
post #23 of 37
I am not a believer of this either, but one thing I have heard in the past is that with some of these "personal" scents they are only given to the celebrity/ rich person who commissioned the frag or that Creed made it for and they can pay extra so (or if you're a big enough person) Creed won't release the fragrance until you die or give permission. I am NOT saying this is what happened, especially with the timing of BdP, but just wondering if anyone else has heard this. It may just be more folklore for/from Creed that is difficult to actually verify, but it is a neat thing to think about. If I ever win the lottery I will pay the money to have a scent just for me
post #24 of 37
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Originally Posted by hednic View Post

Whether he did or not doesn't change the fact that it's a wonderful scent IMO.

I agree.
post #25 of 37
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Originally Posted by gmm150 View Post

IMO I don't really care if Frank Sinatra or King Tut wore it. If it smells good, it smells good. If it smelled bad but Frank Sinatra wore it, would you wear it?

Well said.
post #26 of 37
I also think that if the hypothesis were true, he could have only worn this after 1987.
post #27 of 37
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Originally Posted by Pollux View Post

Seriously... who cares?

The people at Creed, Basenotes, Fragrantica...to name but a few.

Fragrantica says
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In the case of Frank Sinatra we don't have to speculate, as according to the Creed press materials, Bois du Portugal was his signature fragrance. When you sniff Bois du Portugal it conjures up those late 50's early 60's times when Old Blue Eyes was the king of cool before rock and roll would create a whole different kind of cool. This era has been made popular again by the TV series Mad Men and I can easily see the men at Sterling Cooper swathed in a cloud of Bois du Portugal.
post #28 of 37
It is not true.
Creed are very duplicitous - they propagate this information but in a very casual way so they can deny it.
Many people here including a history professor have searched for evidence for many years. There is none.
post #29 of 37
I have often seen reference online to Sinatra wearing Fragonard Zizanie. No idea if it's actually true.
post #30 of 37
According to the dude at the NYC Creed Boutique YES.
post #31 of 37
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Originally Posted by gmm150 View Post

I think next time I am at the Creed counter I am going to just come out and call BS. They say it ALL the time about Frank Sinatra. IMO I don't really care if Frank Sinatra or King Tut wore it. If it smells good, it smells good. If it smelled bad but Frank Sinatra wore it, would you wear it?

King Tut wore Le Male. You might have thought the gold sarcophagus was for opulence and status but the Egyptians found it was the only thing that kept the stink out of the Tomb.
post #32 of 37
Let's just say this: whatever Creed may say, I am unaware of any evidence that Sinatra wore BdP -- no interviews where he said he did, no independent verification, no kids or relatives mentioning that he wore it, etc.

And yet there is a plethora of information about Sinatra out there, and many of his designers and sartorial preferences are mentioned by name. So, by negative implication, it seems this claim is dubious at best, unless Creed eventually comes up with a smidge of evidence.
post #33 of 37
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Originally Posted by thatmakesscents View Post

According to the dude at the NYC Creed Boutique YES.

He is lying or misinformed. This has been flogged out here over many years.
post #34 of 37
the creed pusher where i shop said paul newman used to wear BDP.
post #35 of 37
I thought Tutankhamun wore Paco Rabanne 1 Million, which was the inspiration for his sarcophagus...

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post #36 of 37
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Originally Posted by CaliDude View Post

For me, personally, I don't give a damn about their self-proclaimed "history". All I care about is how the fragrance smells. I love most of their fragrances; and that is why I choose to continue buying them. Albeit, at the grey market prices and splits, of course. No way would I pay retail.

I agree 100% with you on all these points (but I have paid retail a coupla times and I don't do splits).
post #37 of 37
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

Bad marketing is something you rarely repeat nor remember. Good marketing is something you repeat or remember. Great marketing is something you dispute. Marketing is just a hyperbole. Ask P.T. Barnum.

Seems like Creed has done their job and done it well. I've personally not fallen for any of it. Don't care. It (the scent) either strikes my fancy or it doesn't without regard to who might have been a patron before me.

Are you talking about the quote from Barnum: "There is a sucker born every minutes." He was the king of hoaxes and BS in the 19th century.

I laugh about the tale told about some Spanish queen and her lover, and the hogwash on the scent Royal Delight. I love the scent, but the "tale" is pure rubbish. Fragrance marketing is expected to have some romance and fantasy, but to pass off these tales as real history is silly.
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