I found Jovan Sex Appeal in Vintage splashed-on to show much better than as a sprayed application and current formulation is definitely more amber-laden, with the rich cloves and smoky patchouli turned down. Still wearable, but I prefer to layer it with Vintage juice. It has to have one of the best marketing on a box ever created - the stuff is a combination of headshop patchouli and a groovy aphrodisiac of a sex-scent. A lot of fun...regardless. ;-)
I have a tester bottle and the listed notes on the back (from Balenciaga) are:
As per the official scent pyramid (which I find, to my nose, to be correct - but missing a few key notes):
TOP: Ceylon Cinnamon; Italian Bergamot; Coriander; Thyme
MID: Patchouli; Sandalwood; Cypress; Cedar
BOTTOM: Yugoslavian Oakmoss; Vanilla Bourbon; Amber; Musk
So, with the amazing accords, overtones...I looked at the extended scent pyramid presented on Fragrantica - and found some very interesting notes that I could not overlook (as my nose identified them) and I am aware of the use of resins in Balenciaga's classic male fragrances that create that special "Balenciaga vibe" and incredible richness. Styrax, as well as benzoin, are common to this accord (often with rich amber in the base and spices in the top and/or heart) and used with incredible intelligence by this great house. You are not the only person to get the honey accord - it definitely is extremely rich, and very glad (and important you mentioned)...it is definitely not
a sweet fragrance to me either. It is an epic
Oriental 'Spicy' Woody, which I consider in the highest regard. A single spray from Balenciaga Pour Homme and, well...then you know.
Excellent contributions to this thread, MonkeyBars!
Cheers, my friend.
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Originally Posted by MonkeyBars
Thanks for your details eric.
That sounds very likeable indeed.
I found that amber really quite powdery -- far too sweet for me to wear. For a bit I used it as a room spray, but the musk was just too much for that purpose. I traded it away but am left feeling it to be pleasant and a good value.
Hm, I get a real "warm beehive" accord from BpH, which reminds me of the honey accords in Ungaro I
(also matched with patchouli -- killer!) and Giorgio for Men
(despite the honey, unfortunately combined with a bit of birch tar). I'd like to note that despite the amber, vanilla, and caramel you mention, BpH is actually not a sweet fragrance to my nose. Imo it's for those who find YSL Opium pH
Nice contribution, LA2000!
Yes - Costume National Homme will reveal itself in the heart and drydown...great scent.
I agree with the heavy-handed use of cinnamon in Diesel Zero Plus Masculine, but the patchouli (while a listed note) is not quite as discernable as Diesel's Plus Plus Masculine (in the milk bottle carton and little white bottle - discontinued, but still available).
Both bottles are well-worth their price and I have owned both for years. Fun to wear and always compliments! Plus Plus Masculine's cinnamon note is more integrated and the patchouli is more notable. I would recommend both. If you want a pinch or dash more cinnamon, grab the Zero Plus - a bit less, with more wood and other notes...Plus Plus.
Very good stuff!
Originally Posted by LA2000
I second Costume National Homme. I would describe it as cinnamon/clove/patchouli, and the opening is perhaps brighter than you might expect, but the drydown is where you will find what you are looking for. It was the first thing that came to mind when I read the title of the post.
I would also add Diesel Zero Plus Masculine to the mix. It can be had for a song on eBay and you can occasionally find it at TJMaxx, Marshalls, and Ross for under $15.
And if you are feeling adventurous, order a bottle of Cinnamon Darkwood fragrance oil from saveonscents.com (ultra strength), blend it at 10%-15% in some perfumer's alcohol (also available at saveonscents) and see if this might not be exactly what you are looking for. Cinnamon/patchouli/woods/moss/smokey incense - I use it at 1% in my lampe berger to scent the room and it is insane - so good. I haven't yet tried it as a personal fragrance, some people have and really like it, but for $10 for the oil and alcohol, what do you have to lose? Your inspiration was born from a room fragrance anyway. And this really is a straight up cinnamon/patchouli fragrance.