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Oscar Wilde's scents?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Just been wondering if any members on here have any idea about what scents Oscar Wilde wore in his lifetime?

I am sure that he must have loved wearing them, but I cannot find any reference.

Thanks
post #2 of 15
He was quite the English dandy in his time, according to this website his favorite scent was Malmaison by Floris.

http://willowbrookpark.blogspot.co.u...ch-empire.html
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Some excellent detective work, thanks Jack.

I have a sample of Malmaison, although I do believe it is discontinued.

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How on earth can this be classed as off topic? It is about men's scents, or one particular man's scents and it was in the male forum.

Please explain.
post #4 of 15
No idea why this is off-topic. I also read that he apparently liked yet another Floris scent, namely Limes.
post #5 of 15
Oscar Wildes overall style would lead me to believe that he would be a Habit Rouge type of guy.
post #6 of 15
A quote from the man, himself ~

“And so he would now study perfumes, and the secrets of their manufacture, distilling heavily-scented oils, and burning odorous gums from the East. He saw that there was no mood of the mind that had not its counterpart in the sensuous life, and set himself to discover their true relations, wondering what there was in frankincense that made one mystical, and in ambergris that stirred one’s passions, and in violets that woke the memory of dead romances, and in musk that troubled the brain, and in champak that stained the imagination; and seeking often to elaborate a real psychology of perfumes, and to estimate the several influences of sweet-smelling roots, and scented pollen-laden flower, of aromatic balms, and of dark and fragrant woods, of spikenard that sickens, of hovenia that makes men mad, and of aloes that are said to be able to expel melancholy from the soul.”

― Oscar Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray

Brilliance in articulation...and thank you to, Jack Hunter. That is a wonderful site that I was fortunate to come across a while ago. Malmaison sounds like a scent Mr. Wilde would have definitely worn. Borrowing from the site, as it is about half-way down the home page and one can get lost long before then with some great insight into his sheer genius and historical significance...

"The main scent in Malmaison is, of course, the Malmaison Carnation. It was created in the 19th century, in an era when Malmaison Carnations had become all the rage within the elegant circles of society since their introductions from France in the early 1860s. Named afterJoséphine de Beauharnais’ residence of La Malmaison , they soon intoxicated England. They were commonly displayed by the fashion-conscious as a buttonhole or corsage accessory whose heady spicy scent was but another mark of refinement and distinction. Oscar Wilde is famous for having had a fetish for the bloom, which he liked to dye each day anew in green. Apart from the carnation, it has top notes of Cinnamon, Clove, Lemon, Midtones of Rose and Yland, and base notes of Cedarwood, Musk, Patchouli, and Vanilla.

Here is how the experts describe it...

Malmaison eau de toilette is a rich carnation scent that through the interplay of different layers of secondary notes imposes its main character nevertheless as being carnation throughout. The scent is therefore linear in that sense. But there is also the sense that it rests upon a more complex bouquet of flowers and woods, hence a rather rich feel, if not openly complex. Complexity has in this manner a supporting role rather than a main role. The scent opens on an impression of spicy carnation that is powdery, softly sweet and woody with marked clove nuances bordering on the medicinal, but not quite.There are subtle almond-y undertones, reminiscent of heliotrope, on an aqueous and green background. The progression of the perfume is not dramatic although there are shifts in nuances as next, the powdery character fades into a creamier heart where the piquancy of sandalwood comes more to the fore. Fresher floral notes of narcissus and lily of the valley seem to escape inadvertently from the rich, warm concoction revealing in fact the restrained and balanced personality of the fragrance containing fresher notes in its core. The woody and powdery-musky dry-down is the surprise of the scent. With time, this stage becomes more and more distinctive. It is extremely seductive betraying a dark purple and dark red tonality, an overripe fruity-floral nuance, and a deep sensuality that one did not expect to encounter. For this reason, we would be tempted to classify Malmaison as one of those “closet-musk” scents that we find particularly attractive, as they reveal their deeper and very efficient erotic personalities only after some patient waiting. It mimics in this sense the dynamic of a well-regulated courtship. It makes one feel each time like waiting for that moment of rejoining with the loved one and introduces a structure of secrecy and anticipation in the perfume that is very alluring and sexy."

I adore posts like this. It brings historical context to fragrance, notes and iconic figures whom we still treasure today.

Thank you for posting this, Prince Barry...sincerely.

Cheers.

ericrico
post #7 of 15
Very insightful and informative. Thanks for this.
post #8 of 15
+1 on Malmaison, which is no more.

Great post, Eric.

I would venture to propose the also no-more Coup de Fouet by Caron. A spicy carnation vibe. Also, try the Poivre, the parfum version of this. Both Coup and Poivre, however, appear on the Caron site, so maybe these are still urn scents at specific boutiques. (I hear the modern versions are shadows of what they were, however.)

Failing this, Vitriol d'Oiellet ("angry carnation") by Serge Lutens. This is not your heavy oriental with vanilla one expects from SL, but a wonderful spicy rose/carnation/clove.

Vitriol is an EDP and is thoroughly fitting of Oscar's green carnations and fin-de-siecle dandies. Worthy of a sampling of you like carnations.

Perhaps Oscar would like Bosie Torride. Did I say that?? LOL! (I love Guerlain's Boise Torride.)

http://perfumeshrine.blogspot.com/20...fragrance.html
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
Brilliant replies, thank you everybody.
post #10 of 15
Wonderful thread, chaps! Thanks!

In my head Oscar Wilde and 'Dorian Gray' is so linked with Jicky (and Mouchoir de Monsieur). Jicky debuted shortly before The Picture of Dorian Gray was published. It has all the qualities I sensed in The Picture of Dorian Gray. I hope Oscar Wilde got to smell it in his years left.

Sidemark: Coup de Fouet is available from Caron directly. It comes in the Pour un Homme bottle. It smells very intact to me. Poivre seems to have gotten sweeter (more cinnamon)... perhaps.
post #11 of 15
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Wonderful thread, chaps! Thanks!

In my head Oscar Wilde and 'Dorian Gray' is so linked with Jicky (and Mouchoir de Monsieur). Jicky debuted shortly before The Picture of Dorian Gray was published. It has all the qualities I sensed in The Picture of Dorian Gray. I hope Oscar Wilde got to smell it in his years left.

Sidemark: Coup de Fouet is available from Caron directly. It comes in the Pour un Homme bottle. It smells very intact to me. Poivre seems to have gotten sweeter (more cinnamon)... perhaps.

Great news, Larimar! Thank you! Is this only in the Paris boutiques? In the U.S. I was told that they are no longer supplying the boutiques with Coup de Fouet for the urns.
post #12 of 15
Another great carnation from the house of Caron, which excels at the note, is the fabulous Bellodgia (a carnation reference to many). I suspect Wilde would feel quite at home in its enchanting Victorian ambience.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by Primrose View Post

Great news, Larimar! Thank you! Is this only in the Paris boutiques? In the U.S. I was told that they are no longer supplying the boutiques with Coup de Fouet for the urns.

I assume it may be only Paris. Caron seems to have already pulled quite some fragrances from the outside of France market.
post #14 of 15
Habit Rouge.
post #15 of 15
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Habit Rouge.


A little bit too new for Oscar to wear.
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