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How does Chergui compare to Pure Havane?

post #1 of 24
1/6/13 at 2:51pm
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I have tried Pure Havane and although I did think it was good, I found the the juice to be a little too "thick" for what the scent represented, at least for me. But I have been wanting to try Chergui for a while now and was curious how these two compare since they share some of the same notes.
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post #2 of 24
1/6/13 at 3:03pm
They match up well IMO but I prefer Pure Havane.
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post #3 of 24
1/6/13 at 3:06pm
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Hmmm, I may skip Chergui for now then and try Tobacco Vanille instead. Thanks!
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post #4 of 24
1/6/13 at 4:02pm
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Hmmm, I may skip Chergui for now then and try Tobacco Vanille instead. Thanks!


If you found Pure Havane too thick I fear you may find Tobacco Vanille even thicker. I own both Chergui and Tobacco Vanille and the Tom Ford is richer, thicker and sweeter.
As for Chergui and Pure Havane, Pure Havane is quite sweet and focused on vanilla. Chergui is spicy, sweet in a syrupy type of way with plenty of light tobacco and hay.
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post #5 of 24
1/6/13 at 4:33pm
I like all of the above.

Pure Havane is sweet; there's no question about that. But it also has that tarry, acrid A*Men base underneath. Still, I like it quite a bit.

Chergui is far smoother than Pure Havane. One major difference is that Chergui has a very pronounced powdery component that's missing from Pure Havane.

In general, I find Pure Havane more of a "knocking around town during the day" scent, and Chergui is my "nighttime formal event" scent (along with Dior Homme).
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post #6 of 24
1/6/13 at 5:08pm
I feel Chergui is the lighter cousin to Tobacco Vanille, if you find Pure Havane thick than I'm not sure either is the answer as I find the Mugler offering the lightest of the three and a good day-time no offense type scent.
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post #7 of 24
1/6/13 at 6:45pm
Agree with other posts - if you find PH too "thick", you might not be satisfied with Chregui.
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post #8 of 24
1/6/13 at 6:53pm
Never tried Chergui.

Pure Havane smells like a smoker took a honey-cherry cough drop to ease his throat pain. But in a good way, sort of.
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post #9 of 24
1/6/13 at 7:20pm
Pure Havane is lighter than Chergui. Both are great fragrances, but I would go with Pure Havane.
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post #10 of 24
1/6/13 at 7:34pm
Had both at one time, but I got bored with the Pure Havane and sold it. It and A*Men share a similar vibe that grates on me after a while, although I still enjoy Pure Malt and TOF in moderation. I kept the Chergui however, and would personally recommend it out of the two.
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post #11 of 24
1/6/13 at 7:37pm
No comparison. Chergui is a fine work of art. Pure Havane is subtle-as-a-flying-mallet industrial aromachemical crap. Go for Chergui now, or miss one of the all-time great fragrance masterpieces. Save the Pure Havane death match for a more evenly-matched contender, like Calvin Klein Shock For Men.
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post #12 of 24
1/6/13 at 7:48pm
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They smell different to my nose, and the only similarity is the sweetness. To my nose, I detect Chergui's basenotes quite similar to the reformulated version of Envy for Men by Gucci, which I also like.




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post #13 of 24
1/6/13 at 8:32pm
PH is a bit less complex and less smoothly blended; Chergui is rounder and has more depth. I find PH more unique and it has better longevity on me.
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post #14 of 24
1/6/13 at 10:40pm
Pure Havane By Kilian's Back To Black for a more refined experience
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post #15 of 24
1/7/13 at 7:13am
There similar, very close. You can't go wrong with either way. By Kilian btb has the same vibe also.
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post #16 of 24
1/7/13 at 9:32am
Just go with Pure Havane it's cheaper and better.
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post #17 of 24
1/7/13 at 10:17am
actually ditpyques new volutes seem like a drier chergui..and a spicier pure havane - ofcourse tabacco vanille is the sweetest of these three, but it is also of very much higher quality than chergui and havane, so do consider volutes although i did not try the eau de parfum version.
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post #18 of 24
1/7/13 at 12:19pm
I dont care how complex Chergui is, Pure Havane is the safer fragrance.
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post #19 of 24
1/7/13 at 2:19pm
I'm wearing Chergui right now, and it's different than PH to me. PH is a lot safer and more honey/tobacco based, where Chergui is this complex thing with those notes, some woods, and this cool smooth and minty (?) sort of thing that I really dig (some may think it's powder, but it doesn't smell like that to me).
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post #20 of 24
1/8/13 at 8:59pm
They're very very different. They derive from schools of thought that sit on furthest end of the spectrum from each other.
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post #21 of 24
1/8/13 at 9:08pm
If you find Pure Havane too thick or heavy, you will definitley find Chergui even heavier. In Fact, most Serge Lutens fragrances are pretty heavy, and many of them put emphasis on strong honey and woods notes.. It's kind of their trademark. As Chergui is their flagship fragrance. Although a huge seller, I don't really see what the fuss is about. I don't really get this hay note people see. I get a syrupy honey, amber, woods, with a prominent make up accord in the opening. So prominent that it is off putting for me. But once I can get past that, it turns out to be a pretty nice fragrance. Although, still, thick and heavy. Hard to wear, imo.
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post #22 of 24
1/8/13 at 10:15pm
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Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post

If you find Pure Havane too thick or heavy, you will definitley find Chergui even heavier. In Fact, most Serge Lutens fragrances are pretty heavy, and many of them put emphasis on strong honey and woods notes..
It's kind of their trademark.

Not really.

Out of the 56 or so perfumes, these 46 (82% of his total creations) aren't heavy nor are they emphasizing the honey note.

A la nuit (2000)
Ambre sultan (1993)

Bas de soie (2010)
Bois de violette (1992)
Bois et fruits (1992)
Bois et musc (1992)
Bois oriental (1992)
Bornéo 1834 (2005)
Boxeuses (2010)
Cèdre (2005)



Clair de musc (2003)
Cuir mauresque (1996)
Daim blond (2004)
Datura noir (2001)

Douce amère (2000)
El attarine (2008)
Encens et lavande (1996)
Féminité du bois (1992)
Fille en aiguilles (2009)
Five o'clock au gingembre (2008)
Fleurs de citronnier (2004)
Fleurs d'oranger (1995)
Fourreau noir (2009)

Gris clair (2006)
Iris silver mist (1994)
Jeux de peau (2011)
La myrrhe (1995)
L’Eau froide (2012)

L’Eau Serge Lutens (2010)
Louve (2007)
Mandarine - mandarin (2006)

Muscs Koublaï Khän (1998)
Nuit de cellophane (2009)
Rahät loukoum (1998)
Rose de nuit(1993)

Sa majesté la rose (2000)
Santal blanc (2001)
Santal de Mysore (1997)
Santal majuscule (2012)

Sarrasins (2007)

Tubéreuse criminelle (1999)
Un bois sépia (1994)
Un bois vanille (2003)


Un lys (1994)
Vétiver oriental (2002)
Vitriol d’œillet (2011)


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Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post

As Chergui is their flagship fragrance.

Where'd you get this tidbit of info? Source please.
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post #23 of 24
1/8/13 at 11:47pm
Chergui is even thicker than Pure Havane. Both IMO are very good frags but Chergui is better in quality and composition
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post #24 of 24
1/9/13 at 12:35am
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Not really.

Out of the 56 or so perfumes, these 46 (82% of his total creations) aren't heavy nor are they emphasizing the honey note.

A la nuit (2000)
Ambre sultan (1993)

Bas de soie (2010)
Bois de violette (1992)
Bois et fruits (1992)
Bois et musc (1992)
Bois oriental (1992)
Bornéo 1834 (2005)
Boxeuses (2010)
Cèdre (2005)



Clair de musc (2003)
Cuir mauresque (1996)
Daim blond (2004)
Datura noir (2001)

Douce amère (2000)
El attarine (2008)
Encens et lavande (1996)
Féminité du bois (1992)
Fille en aiguilles (2009)
Five o'clock au gingembre (2008)
Fleurs de citronnier (2004)
Fleurs d'oranger (1995)
Fourreau noir (2009)

Gris clair (2006)
Iris silver mist (1994)
Jeux de peau (2011)
La myrrhe (1995)
L’Eau froide (2012)

L’Eau Serge Lutens (2010)
Louve (2007)
Mandarine - mandarin (2006)

Muscs Koublaï Khän (1998)
Nuit de cellophane (2009)
Rahät loukoum (1998)
Rose de nuit(1993)

Sa majesté la rose (2000)
Santal blanc (2001)
Santal de Mysore (1997)
Santal majuscule (2012)

Sarrasins (2007)

Tubéreuse criminelle (1999)
Un bois sépia (1994)
Un bois vanille (2003)


Un lys (1994)
Vétiver oriental (2002)
Vitriol d’œillet (2011)




Where'd you get this tidbit of info? Source please.

When I emailed them prior to testing many from their house, I asked which fragrance was their top seller because I had hear so much about Chergui. The saleswoman told me that Chergui was in fact their top seller, followed by Ambre Sultan. I could probably find the email and forward it to you, if you'd like, just PM me your email address. Or you can email them via the contact on their website.

I was able to sample 20 or so fragrances from their house. Out of all of the ones I tried, with the exception of Iris Silver Mist; I found them to be heavy, with either resinous notes, amber, honey, woods, tobacco, or spices.
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