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post #121 of 375
The registrant of IlumDean.com is "Maison du Parfum".

http://www.linkedin.com/in/maisonduparfum

Ilum Dean NY = DrScent.com
post #122 of 375
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Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post

The registrant of IlumDean.com is "Maison du Parfum".

http://www.linkedin.com/in/maisonduparfum

Ilum Dean NY = DrScent.com

Yep. Your not going to be buying this at Sak's anytime soon.
post #123 of 375
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Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post

The registrant of IlumDean.com is "Maison du Parfum".

http://www.linkedin.com/in/maisonduparfum

Ilum Dean NY = DrScent.com

Haha, no surprise there. Good job Sherlock Basenotes!
post #124 of 375
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Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post

The registrant of IlumDean.com is "Maison du Parfum".

http://www.linkedin.com/in/maisonduparfum

Ilum Dean NY = DrScent.com


To limit the extent of a possible lawsuit?
post #125 of 375
Posted this on the FB groups today.

Got Fresco in today, and this does not smell like my X02 batch! It has a black pepper/musk/moss smell to it and it is nowhere as sweet as my X02. Sorry but this is not 90 to 95% Aventus. Unless I got a bad batch!

The atomizer was not even put on correctly so it leaked during shipping, and is still leaking out of the box. Also, it has a very strong alcohol scent at the beginning.

Overall, not happy!
post #126 of 375
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Originally Posted by Vento97gt View Post

Posted this on the FB groups today.

Got Fresco in today, and this does not smell like my X02 batch! It has a black pepper/musk/moss smell to it and it is nowhere as sweet as my X02. Sorry but this is not 90 to 95% Aventus. Unless I got a bad batch!

The atomizer was not even put on correctly so it leaked during shipping, and is still leaking out of the box. Also, it has a very strong alcohol scent at the beginning.

Overall, not happy!

Really? Maybe everyone is getting different juice...I just smelt a sample from a co-worker who had received his sample today. It was pretty much a Aventus clone to my nose and his. A heavy pineapple opening with a light smoke drydown. As close as ive smelt. We just compared to my bottle of Aventus and I couldn't smell the difference. EXCEPT for Aventus having a better drydown...I say about 95 percent the same.
post #127 of 375
Maybe because of the bottle being open for a while, and during shipping air could have an impact on the scent?
post #128 of 375
Regardless this wont have a scent trail and longevity compared to Aventus. Not to big of a fan of Aventus anyways but its a cheap alternative, so thats cool.
post #129 of 375
Does anyone know which batch it compares to most?
I have a sample of the C4 batch, which isn't too bad.
Also, which batch is the one that everyone is hyping?
post #130 of 375
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Originally Posted by MikeJ View Post

Does anyone know which batch it compares to most?
I have a sample of the C4 batch, which isn't too bad.
Also, which batch is the one that everyone is hyping?

It's smells like Aventus plain and simple. It's not going to smell like a particular batch because it's not a super strong fragrance. That's part of why Aventus has had issues. It's too strong for it's own good.
post #131 of 375
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Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post

Good job Sherlock Basenotes!

LOL, Thanks!
Love your avatar BTW.

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Originally Posted by khulk View Post

To limit the extent of a possible lawsuit?

I don't think there will be a lawsuit TBH.
They did a bad job of covering up the connection between DrScent and Ilum Dean.
The Ilum Dean website is a bit "fishy".
When you click on About Us > Our Story, there are 2 lines of text.... lol
It's a brand new fashion house, but without clothing.
IlumDean and DrScent use the same hosting.
So I continued googling and found the linkedin url.
I think it was clear to a lot of people that DrScent and Ilum Dean are 1 company.
Now we know it for a fact.

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Originally Posted by Vento97gt View Post

The atomizer was not even put on correctly so it leaked during shipping, and is still leaking out of the box.

Wow, now that is a huge problem.
I have also read comments on Youtube about leaking bottles.
I am definitely not ordering this.
If they would ask $40 or $50 for the 3.4, and put it in a better bottle, people would still buy it.
Such a shame.
post #132 of 375
I just got my sample in today and applied it right on skin... So far it is indeed very close to the Aventus pineapple open, but it seems to be missing the cloying overly smoky aspect of its dry-down that I disliked. While I won't be buying a bottle myself as it still really isn't for me, at least early-on I would say I prefer it to Aventus and would say it is indeed a great substitute for a lot less money. I guess time will tell if the performance holds up. So far, so good if you like this kind of scent.

Edit: Now further into the development I am getting a better picture of the two scents (especially as I now have Aventus from my large decant that has been gathering dust on one arm and Fresco on the other). They are *very* similar nearly from start to finish as I am now even getting a bit of the smoky dry-down with the Fresco too. The difference is the Aventus is much stronger and projects a lot more. In my case, I view both of these as deficiencies as Aventus is just so overbearing and synthetic that it drives me crazy the longer I wear it. With Fresco, even though the scent profile is nearly identical throughout, it is much more wearable as it does not get cloying like Aventus over time. It also should be able to be worn to work a lot more readily without one worrying the entire office will smell them. I stand by my initial thoughts that if I could only own one it would be the Fresco for the cost savings and the lack of crazy potency. Luckily I don't have to own either as I still slightly dislike the Aventus and am indifferent to Fresco. If cloning Aventus was Ilum Deam's goal, they get a gold star.

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Originally Posted by silentrich View Post

It's smells like Aventus plain and simple. It's not going to smell like a particular batch because it's not a super strong fragrance. That's part of why Aventus has had issues. It's too strong for it's own good.

Absolutely correct, IMO.
post #133 of 375
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Originally Posted by chili_willi View Post

Well I'm in too... dammit. Snagged by the hype.

FYI- about a buck cheaper than ebay when you use the drscent.com website with the discount code COACHROB. Including shipping mine came to $31.41.

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Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post

Wait, coach Rob already has his own discount code on the website that's selling the fragrance? That seem fishy to anyone else?

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Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post

The registrant of IlumDean.com is "Maison du Parfum".

http://www.linkedin.com/in/maisonduparfum

Ilum Dean NY = DrScent.com

Now Im starting to think this is fishy...it looks like coachrob maybe getting a kickback from the site for hyping this. This doesn't make any sense.
post #134 of 375
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Originally Posted by goody2141 View Post

I decided to give it a try. Wanted to try Midnight in Paris, but that will probably always be $30

It smells like someone burned rubber on their tires in a garage full of baby powder. Atrocious.
post #135 of 375
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Originally Posted by Oupavoc View Post

Now Im starting to think this is fishy...it looks like coachrob maybe getting g a kickback from the site for hyping this. This doesn't make any sense.

While not implying that is the case at all, even if it is does it really matter as long as he is correct in his assertions?
post #136 of 375
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Originally Posted by Oupavoc View Post

Now Im starting to think this is fishy...it looks like coachrob maybe getting g a kickback from the site for hyping this. This doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, he's a thief. Pfft. Great observation!!! People never do things because they just want to help people. Had to LOL at this comment.
post #137 of 375
Idk some people would feel cheated...anyone can have a deal with a supplier and hype a fragrance and get a kickback in return!
post #138 of 375
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Originally Posted by silentrich View Post

Yeah, he's a thief. Pfft. Great observation!!! People never do things because they just want to help people. Had to LOL at this comment.

Are you familiar with the term shill? Do you really think CoachRob discovered this scent all on his own, and then decided to upload a vid comparing it to Aventus because he genuinely wanted to help people? I'm guessing things went more like this; "hey CoachRob, Mr. Ilum Dean here. We've just developed a cologne that smells exactly like Creed Aventus, but since we're trying to come across as a legitimately run business we can't come out and market it as such. However if you were to make a YouTube vid saying that it smells exactly like Aventus, we'll line your pockets!"
post #139 of 375
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Originally Posted by silentrich View Post

Yeah, he's a thief. Pfft. Great observation!!! People never do things because they just want to help people. Had to LOL at this comment.

Lol are you serious. First of all I never said he was a thief. Its just not all adding up. With his discount code from the same manufacturer of this scent.

According to this video he even says he's a business man and entrepreneur.



All I care as of now is the bottle I bought off ebay. If it leaks you better know I'm leaving negative feedback!
post #140 of 375
Does anyone think that he's not getting a little money or free product at least? I though it was a given.
Its probably not much money though since its not like they are selling thousands of bottles or even hundreds. The only reason they have sold 5 bottles is because of his video, so they should be paying him for being their entire ad campaign.
post #141 of 375
Well like ive said smells pretty good.
post #142 of 375
Can't believe that some people here are getting their knickers in a twist about this.

100mls of this Fresco juice is only £25 for crying out loud ! Even if the bottles are filled with tap water it's hardly the end of the world.

Worth a punt in anybody's language.
post #143 of 375
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Originally Posted by Carvalho Diablo View Post

Can't believe that some people here are getting their knickers in a twist about this.

100mls of this Fresco juice is only £25 for crying out loud ! Even if the bottles are filled with tap water it's hardly the end of the world.

Worth a punt in anybody's language.


But these are sealed correctly and are not leaking.
post #144 of 375
I got my sample today and I'll be testing it out tomorrow. Also, I really don't mind if this guy is getting a kickback or whatever because if this fragrance is a more subtle version of Aventus (plus a lot cheaper), then hey, thanks Mr.Guy for letting us know!
post #145 of 375
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Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post

Are you familiar with the term shill? Do you really think CoachRob discovered this scent all on his own, and then decided to upload a vid comparing it to Aventus because he genuinely wanted to help people? I'm guessing things went more like this; "hey CoachRob, Mr. Ilum Dean here. We've just developed a cologne that smells exactly like Creed Aventus, but since we're trying to come across as a legitimately run business we can't come out and market it as such. However if you were to make a YouTube vid saying that it smells exactly like Aventus, we'll line your pockets!"

This thread has been very entertaining, especially with conspiracy theorists like yourself lol. Before I address this, if my username doesn't reveal it, I'M COACHROB619 FROM YOUTUBE. So let's hear it from the horse's mouth since you didn't get it from my video. Like a movie sometimes you need to watch it twice because you may have missed some things..

1) First of all I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH ILUM DEAN NY. I DIDN'T DISCOVER FRESCO. I clearly state that in the beginning of the video. A subscriber of mine did, and HE told me it smells extremely close to Aventus and to check it out for myself. 01:15-01:45. So I bought a bottle, that didn't leak by the way and agreed with his assessment. So being a reviewer, it's my obligation TO REVIEW MY OPINION, and let people know what I think.

2) Do I genuinely want to help people? Hmmm.. Let me see, I've been reviewing fragrances for about a year now, have over 80 (one were I compare ALL THE CREEDS) and haven't MADE ONE PENNY! What the hell else would I be doing it for other than my passion for fragrances and helping people out?

3) You guessed WRONG. Things went like this, I contacted Dr.scent and told them what I do, and that I have a nice following on YouTube and could possibly help generate sales for them being I think the Fresco will do extremely well once people smell it. All I ask is that you CREATE A DISCOUNT CODE FOR MY SUBSCRIBERS THAT I SEND TO YOU. That's it, I don't get a kick back, percentage, or anything. I get to use the same discount code everyone else does. Based on Fresco taking off like wildfire, I WILL CONTACT THEM AGAIN, and try to work out a percentage I can get every time somebody uses my discount code for ANY fragrance on their site, that's the businessman/entrepreneur in me. Who wouldn't? Should I not get reimbursed for my time, effort and exposure I brought to this fragrance? But as of 1/19/13 that's not the case, I get nothing.

Just a FYI, I plan on doing another underrated/under the radar fragrance review. Unfortunately Dr.scent nor Ebay sells it, I've only found it on Amazon.com. So be prepared to conjure up another conspiracy of how I'm secretly the CEO of Amazon.com and did a review on this fragrance to increase revenue for Amazon's fragrance department.. SMH #Illhavemypopcornready

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Originally Posted by CologneFan85 View Post

Of course CoachRob is part of this. But who cares...They made a great clone. They just wanted to get their clone out and make cash, plain and simple.

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This coach rob guy is saying ppl should call him basenote Rob on Basenotes...geez The comments on his youtube are ridiculous

It was just a joke, lighten up! Also read my reply, a bunch of rumor starters on here.. #getfacts
post #146 of 375
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Originally Posted by ScentsforRob View Post

This thread has been very entertaining, especially with conspiracy theorists like yourself lol. Before I address this, if my username doesn't reveal it, I'M COACHROB619 FROM YOUTUBE. So let's hear it from the horse's mouth since you didn't get it from my video. Like a movie sometimes you need to watch it twice because you may have missed some things..

1) First of all I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH ILUM DEAN NY. I DIDN'T DISCOVER FRESCO. I clearly state that in the beginning of the video. A subscriber of mine did, and HE told me it smells extremely close to Aventus and to check it out for myself. 01:15-01:45. So I bought a bottle, that didn't leak by the way and agreed with his assessment. So being a reviewer, it's my obligation TO REVIEW MY OPINION, and let people know what I think.

2) Do I genuinely want to help people? Hmmm.. Let me see, I've been reviewing fragrances for about a year now, have over 80 (one were I compare ALL THE CREEDS) and haven't MADE ONE PENNY! What the hell else would I be doing it for other than my passion for fragrances and helping people out?

3) You guessed WRONG. Things went like this, I contacted Dr.scent and told them what I do, and that I have a nice following on YouTube and could possibly help generate sales for them being I think the Fresco will do extremely well once people smell it. All I ask is that you CREATE A DISCOUNT CODE FOR MY SUBSCRIBERS THAT I SEND TO YOU. That's it, I don't get a kick back, percentage, or anything. I get to use the same discount code everyone else does. Based on Fresco taking off like wildfire, I WILL CONTACT THEM AGAIN, and try to work out a percentage I can get every time somebody uses my discount code for ANY fragrance on their site, that's the businessman/entrepreneur in me. Who wouldn't? Should I not get reimbursed for my time, effort and exposure I brought to this fragrance? But as of 1/19/13 that's not the case, I get nothing.

Just a FYI, I plan on doing another underrated/under the radar fragrance review. Unfortunately Dr.scent nor Ebay sells it, I've only found it on Amazon.com. So be prepared to conjure up another conspiracy of how I'm secretly the CEO of Amazon.com and did a review on this fragrance to increase revenue for Amazon's fragrance department.. SMH #Illhavemypopcornready

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It was just a joke, lighten up! Also read my reply, a bunch of rumor starters on here.. #getfacts

Why be so offended? No big deal...

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Called being sarcastic...

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Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post

The registrant of IlumDean.com is "Maison du Parfum".

http://www.linkedin.com/in/maisonduparfum

Ilum Dean NY = DrScent.com

yep...But they made a good alternative.
post #147 of 375
Get what you can while you can Rob.
post #148 of 375
Thanks for clearing the air Rob. I apologize for jumping to conclusions. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but things looked fishy for a while, not only to myself, but many others on this forum. Keep up the good work my friend.
post #149 of 375
Things still look a little fishy to me. I just got spammed by the coachrob video. I understand wanting to promote one's youtube channel, but... this looks a little sales/PR oriented and perhaps sketchy. Anyway... I bought a sample a few days ago because I own and enjoy Aventus, so I figured that for $2 it would be fun to do a comparison.
post #150 of 375
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Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post

Things still look a little fishy to me. I just got spammed by the coachrob video. I understand wanting to promote one's youtube channel, but... this looks a little sales/PR oriented and perhaps sketchy. Anyway... I bought a sample a few days ago because I own and enjoy Aventus, so I figured that for $2 it would be fun to do a comparison.

Everything's a conspiracy with you guys lol. So you never received a video message ever on YT? Sorry for trying to promote my channel..

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Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post

Thanks for clearing the air Rob. I apologize for jumping to conclusions, but I am not a conspiracy theorist. Things looked fishy for a while, not only to myself, but many others on this forum. Keep up the good work my friend.

Will do, and apology accepted. I'm the last to pull some elaborate Ponzi scheme lol. I'm not that smart you guys give me too much credit.
post #151 of 375
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Originally Posted by ScentsforRob View Post

Everything's a conspiracy with you guys lol. So you never received a video message ever on YT? Sorry for trying to promote my channel..

I'm not very active on youtube, so, no. I've never received one.
post #152 of 375
Wow Coach Bobby pulling out the hashtags on us! #basenotesnottwitternotes

That being said, keep the vids coming, I enjoy your takes.
post #153 of 375
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I'm not very active on youtube, so, no. I've never received one.

I guess that explains why you call receiving a response video "being spammed."
post #154 of 375
Hey Rob, thanks for clearing some of the confusion. All I care to be honest is a perfect working bottle of Fresco that smells like my bottle of Aventus. No leaky sprayer is all I'm asking for lol.

Oh on a side note Rob, hashtags don't work here. This isn't Twitter. Lol :P
post #155 of 375
#hastagsarewaybetterthansmileyswhenmakingapoint
#PerfumeIlluminati
#CouchRobControlsTheMedia
#IlumDeanTruthUncovered
post #156 of 375
#hastagsarewaybetterthansmileyswhenmakingapoint
#PerfumeIlluminati
#CouchRobControlsTheMedia
#IlumDeanTruthUncovered

Good one Hepard.
post #157 of 375
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Originally Posted by heperd View Post

#hastagsarewaybetterthansmileyswhenmakingapoint
#PerfumeIlluminati
#CouchRobControlsTheMedia
#IlumDeanTruthUncovered

Lmao good one man!
post #158 of 375
I got my FB in today and it smells excellent! I feel like a winner, regardless for that price point and the quality. Tell me what you can get from your local department store of this quality and price?
post #159 of 375
I think it's safe to say when it comes to Aventus they come out of the woodwork. Way to go guys. You didn't disappoint.
post #160 of 375
Okay who came out the woodwork?

#confused?
post #161 of 375
Guess people are dying to pay top dollar, folks hate a good deal....Reminds me of starbury sneakers and how nobody wanted them because they were not expensive. Gotta have that nike check even though I cant afford it!
post #162 of 375
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Originally Posted by xray View Post

I guess that explains why you call receiving a response video "being spammed."

Not sure what you mean by a response video. It was just an email recommending checking out the Ilum Dean Fresco video, but it wasn't a response to a video I'd watched or commented on. To me, that's spam since it's unsolicited PR. I promise I don't mean to be rude to CoachRob. I just hate spam. I get so much junk email.
post #163 of 375
^ Okay, in that case I agree with you.
post #164 of 375
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Originally Posted by heperd View Post

#hastagsarewaybetterthansmileyswhenmakingapoint
#PerfumeIlluminati
#CouchRobControlsTheMedia
#IlumDeanTruthUncovered

Will you do a Fresco split?

post #165 of 375
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Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post

Will you do a Fresco split?


Probably a good idea. Do a 30 way split. Wouldn't want anyone to think they got cheated.
post #166 of 375
Lol
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Originally Posted by silentrich View Post

probably a good idea. Do a 30 way split. Wouldn't want anyone to think they got cheated.
post #167 of 375
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Originally Posted by ScentsforRob View Post

I contacted Dr.scent and told them what I do, and that I have a nice following on YouTube and could possibly help generate sales for them being I think the Fresco will do extremely well once people smell it. All I ask is that you CREATE A DISCOUNT CODE FOR MY SUBSCRIBERS THAT I SEND TO YOU. That's it, I don't get a kick back, percentage, or anything.

You have to understand why others think or thought otherwise, don't you? These are your exact words in your last video:

Me bein' the businessman, entrepreneur that I am, you know, I worked out a deal with the online retailer drscent.com; worked out a deal for my subscribers.

Anyone hearing that would think that the business man and entrepreneur that you claim to be worked out a deal to get a percentage.
post #168 of 375
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Will you do a Fresco split?


#LoLIDontEvenJokeAboutMakingDealsOutsideOfTheMarke tplace

#FollowTheLinkInMySignatureIn3Days
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post #170 of 375
Haha nice work Suppressor!!

New conspiracy:
#CreedCreatedFresco&IlumDean&CoachRobIsOnThePayrol l
post #171 of 375
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Originally Posted by xray View Post

You have to understand why others think or thought otherwise, don't you? These are your exact words in your last video:

Me bein' the businessman, entrepreneur that I am, you know, I worked out a deal with the online retailer drscent.com; worked out a deal for my subscribers.

Anyone hearing that would think that the business man and entrepreneur that you claim to be worked out a deal to get a percentage.

The problem is that people assumed he was a con artist without actually getting their noses on it. I knew better, because I actually had a bottle of it and I'm the one that PM'd the OP about this fragrance. The information about Ilum Dean and Dr.Scent being the same entity was a fact and a useful piece of information. Accusing someone of being a con man and trying to steal their money under false pretenses isn't acceptable. Matter of fact if you do it to someone's face you'll likely walk away with a few less teeth. Just for the record I will take your money.
post #172 of 375
#JiveHippoIsNotInFactAHippoButHeIsIndeedJiveAndAls oCanadianButHeIsNotOnIlumDeansPayroll

#WhyIsBasenotesBustinUpMyMonsterHashtag ...?

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Uhm... who or what exactly is Dr.Scent? I'm not familiar.
post #173 of 375
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Originally Posted by silentrich View Post

The problem is that people assumed he was a con artist without actually getting their noses on it.

It doesn't matter if they got their noses on it. Would you trust a restaurant critic giving positive reviews to a restaurant he had a stake in? Reviews are trusted when there's no bias and Coach Rob heavily inferred that he had a stake in sales.
post #174 of 375
I heard CoachRob is really who killed Kennedy. Just sayin........

#noMorehashTagjokes
post #175 of 375
Best thread ever.
post #176 of 375
^ He also wrote in this thread:

I WILL CONTACT THEM AGAIN, and try to work out a percentage I can get every time somebody uses my discount code for ANY fragrance on their site, that's the businessman/entrepreneur in me. Who wouldn't? Should I not get reimbursed for my time, effort and exposure I brought to this fragrance?

The answer to his question is, no, you shouldn't. Not if you want your reviews to be trusted. People won't trust your reviews if your trying to make a buck off the companies you're reviewing.
post #177 of 375
Go back to not watching his videos if you are worried about him making $1 from every $25 bottle of fragrance that they sell because of his promotion of it.

Oh no!!!! What will we all do now that we cant trust some guy named Coach Rob who reviews fragrances on Youtube!!???!!
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#noMorehashTagjokes

Ah, the classic non-joke joke. Well played, sir. Well played.

#ThisIsNotAHashTagJoke

#ThisHoweverMayOrMayNotInFactBeAHashTagJoke

#ButEvenIfThoseWereBothActuallyHashtagJokesBasenot esIsStillNotTwitter
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Originally Posted by xray View Post

It doesn't matter if they got their noses on it. Would you trust a restaurant critic giving positive reviews to a restaurant he had a stake in? Reviews are trusted when there's no bias and Coach Rob heavily inferred that he had a stake in sales.

You do realize that I have a bottle and I did give my impression on it right? I'm pretty sure many more people will comment on this thread with their opinions of it also. If you don't trust his opinion then don't buy a bottle. I believe he also stated that he wasn't getting compensated. Be honest I could care less.
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Originally Posted by heperd View Post

Go back to not watching his videos if you are worried about him making $1 from every $25 bottle of fragrance that they sell because of his promotion of it.

Oh no!!!! What will we all do now that we cant trust some guy named Coach Rob who reviews fragrances on Youtube!!???!!

I'm not worried about anything. I'm simply explaining why others would be dubious of someone reviewing something he has a stake in. But you knew that.

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You do realize that I have a bottle and I did give my impression on it right?

That's relevant how?

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I believe he also stated that he wasn't getting compensated. Be honest I could care less.

I mentioned that already. I also mentioned that his plan is to get compensated.
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