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Oakmoss and cigarette butts: ROGUE!!!

post #1 of 32
Thread Starter 
Have any of you tried Rogue by Beverly Hills Polo Club? I've been seeing this cheapie recently popping up in TJMaxx and Marshalls, and it's a definite powerhouse. This is so 80s in style that I'd call it outdated, if I didn't like it so much. I think this is a recent release, but you'd never know it from the smell. This easily could have come out in 1981. This juice makes Drakkar Noir smell modern.

Basically this is a somewhat sweeter, more leathery take on Quorum. It's a big tobacco, leather and moss bomb. It literally smells to me like a bunch of cigarette butts blended with loud green oakmoss and a ton of leather. This is open-shirt, medallion wearing macho man stuff. You cannot wear this discreetly, even if you apply it lightly. Even in small doses, it's brash and crude. This a perfect fragrance for disco freaks, porn stars, leg breakers, bookies, etc.. I wore this a few days ago to work with a suit and tie, and I felt a bit ridiculous, as if the smell didn't suit the occasion. It's just too in-your-face for work, even for me. This is a great power scent for hanging out.

No, it's not the strongest frag I own, but on my skin it produces almost obnoxious sillage. Fans of Halston Z-14, Gianfranco Ferre For Him, Witness, Quorum, and the like, will love this. If you hate 80s frags, I guarantee this will have your stomach churning.
post #2 of 32
ebay here i come!
post #3 of 32
nothing! what is this going for in tj's?15 0r so? ive seen something from beverly hills polo club but never even paid attention. watch, it will be all gone by the time i get out to the city again.
post #4 of 32
Thread Starter 
I wouldn't worry about this stuff disappearing from the shelves. There's not a big audience for loud macho 80s colognes. They also sell it at CVS for $10 for a 1.7 oz. bottle, in the shelves where the cosmetics are (not in the fragrance cabinet). It sells at the Maxx for $12.99 for a 2.5 oz. bottle.

Strange, I just Googled the name, and this frag is nowhere to be found. I don't get it, because I've seen it in at least two TJ/Marshalls over the past week, and I saw it at three CVS stores recently, as late as yesterday. CVS also has a small tester of it, so you can try it out before you buy.
post #5 of 32
Just about a month ago, I bought a set at TJM that had a travel spray, a 100ml and a deodorant. The deo is inadequate, but the scent is a big strapping lad. They fade a little quickly for my taste, but they layer very well with Polo (or Classic Match), which ends those worries. I like it. I can't even find it in the BHPC catalogue, though...

Interestingly enough, only the travel spray has ROGUE on the label -- the big one doesn't, but they definitely contain the same scent.
post #6 of 32
Sounds like its right down my alley, I'll be looking for it next time a TJMaxx
post #7 of 32
I have it and I think it's a Polo knockoff with a touch of Z-14, but like Polo used to be: strong and loud. It has better longevity than the current rendering of Polo but it's not a Lapidus-level power. For about $7.99 it's a steal and defintely a throwback to the fragrances discussed in this forum.
post #8 of 32
Sounds great!! As expected I can't find this anywhere - even just Googling the name brings up this thread and nothing else! Any chance of a pic please shamu so we know what to look out for?
post #9 of 32
Thread Starter 
Sorry man, I can't even find a picture of this online. I'll have to take a picture of my own bottle myself and post it. I've even tried searching "JDL Enterprises", which is their distributor, online, and no luck. This frag is a complete mystery online, because it's not hard to find in stores here.

I never really thought of this as being like Polo, but now that Swanky mentioned it I can smell some similarity. However, Polo to me smells timeless and Rogue smells totally locked into a hairy chested Eighties night club vibe. Polo smells more aromatic and woody to me, while Rogue is much more leathery. Also, I wear Polo to work a lot, whereas Rogue for me is too brash for work, even in small doses.
post #10 of 32
weeeeeeeeird! mystery cologne.
post #11 of 32
I totally agree -- this stuff is all muscle and swagger. Very likable. Wore it yesterday 1:1 with Aficionado, two sprays of each and they complemented rather well.

OK, finally found it! Look in the back few pages of the catalogue here:
http://www.bhpc.com/catalog/

Cutesy, but annoying interface, so beware.
post #12 of 32
I will have to find it I almost bet Marshalls has it.
post #13 of 32
I saw it today at my local Marshall's. It was a set of four (0.5 oz each) bottles of BHPC for $19.99 and one of them was Rogue, I put it in my cart and then a bright yellow box caught my eyes, Giorgio of BH was calling me, $12.99 for the 1.6 oz bottle, what to do? WHAT TO DO?????
I ended up deciding for Giorgio, so next time at Marshall's I will be looking for Rogue again.
post #14 of 32
Thread Starter 
I wouldn't spend $19.99 on that four-pack, because the other three frags are horrendous. BHPC Classic is the worst fragrance I've ever smelled, tied with Wings For Men. The other two are rubbish as well. Which means you're paying $20 for a dinky bottle of Rogue. It's a really good power scent, but not $20 for that small of a bottle. I would have bought the Giorgio For Men too.

Check out CVS Pharmacy. That's where I bought mine last week.
post #15 of 32
I'll check my local CVS next week.
post #16 of 32
Yep I bought it at Marshalls for $13. I don't know how old this one actually is but as soon as I smelled it I felt like I had smelled it many times as a small child, but I feel that way about several fragrances. Anyway this is a pretty decent scent it smells nice and masculine reminds me of Ralph Lauren's Polo but much sweeter. I think I will keep this one in the car.
post #17 of 32


This is Classic, but Rogue looks pretty much the same with a slightly different color scheme.
post #18 of 32
I bought Rogue yesterday on Shamu's recommendation, and look forward to wearing it sometime this weekend.
post #19 of 32
Thread Starter 
Be careful guys, and don't make the mistake of buying the Classic. It is truly ghastly. The worst fragrance, tied with Wings For Men, I have ever smelled.
post #20 of 32
The others in the BHPC lineup are junk, as Shamu says. They have another called Sexy that is a bad Acqua di Gio ripoff (and that's saying something) and Classic is a cheap, watery waste as well. Only Rogue has been a pleasant surprise.

Wings for Men is atrocious. It may not be the worst thing I've smelled but it'll do until the worst gets here.
post #21 of 32
Rogue is actually a pretty enjoyable wear. It is a bit on the weak side, imho, but 12 shots brought it to life. BHPC Classic is, as agreed to here, hideous. Also....anyone who wants my 50 ml of Wings for Men need only pay postage for it. Back to the Rogue. When I first sprayed some on (before the full day wear), I sprayed three shots on each arm and left it on for about an hour before getting into the bathtub. Right after I submerged, I lifted my arm out of the water and smelled the dampened Rogue, which after getting wet really smelled exactly like (1)cigarette butts and (2)oakmoss. After getting wet, the cigarette butt/oakmoss combo was more evident than when wearing it straight up. You really hit this one on the head. Try the wet test sometime. I didn't find it to be powerhouse status on my skin, but it was strong enough to be enjoyable. While I wouldn't wear it to work, BHPC Rogue is decent, casual juice. Thanks for the tip, Shamu!
post #22 of 32
4 sprays- right off the bat, smells a lot like halston 1-12. wich is not a bad thing. (what is that note???) now it smells like a cross between 1-12 and van cleef and arpels pour homme! but...wheres the leather? im applying more, but only because i like the opening.
post #23 of 32
i couldnt pinpoint what it was that i immediatly smelled when i first sprayed it but now i have it- it is an expensive granite sealant- used by tile guys. i did a house in south county and our tile guy applied this sealant and when i smelled it i asked him what it was that smelled so good. he said "this" and held up a clear bottle marked "sealant". exactly the same smell.
post #24 of 32
what IS that note????
post #25 of 32
I would bet that THAT NOTE is pine needles. Sealants are often dissolved in turpentine which is distillated from woods, mostly pine tree
The major components of turpentine are alpha-pinene and beta-pinene, present in pine needles.
post #26 of 32
hmmm... says coumarin as the first ingredient. isnt there also coumarin in vc&a pour homme? i dont even know if coumarin is a smelly or a preservative or what.
post #27 of 32
i like pine though!~
post #28 of 32
and im getting the polo similarity you guys mentioned.
post #29 of 32
Coumarin is the smell component of Tonka Bean and it is very similar to Vanilla.
Coumarin is one of the elements of the fougere accord (Lavender/Coumarin/Oakmoss).
Coumarin has fallen is disuse because it is a potent blood thinner (not by itself, but the body transforms coumarin into a strong anticoagulant) and it is a potent rodenticide.
post #30 of 32
darren1, thanks for your comment "where's the leather?" that made me want to pick this one up. i can't stand birch tar and all the comparisons to Polo and Quorum were getting me rather nervous. i just got a bottle of this at Ross along with Giorgio. I've got a spray of each on each arm and am just getting the beginnings of the arc now. so far so good! no birch tar in sight yet for the Rogue, but a very aromatic, synthetic, green, intense opening for sure. smells cheap and extremely old school, but somehow i dig it! i'm getting pine, herbal synthetics, oakmoss, tobacco, patchouli and driftwood so far. could this be my long sought-after "Polo without the birch tar"?? i'll report back!
post #31 of 32
The coumarin in Rogue is pretty subtle. I do get a lot of moss and tobacco, and no birch tar! Hallelujah. This is crude but of average potency, though I can see it as a powerhouse. Longevity seems average but I will know more in a few hours. It's foresty, woody, earthy, and mossy tobacco with hardly any sweetness, and relatively synthetic but certainly not in a harsh way. Very bold and a little cheap smelling, but relatively balanced. I haven't yet smelled anything quite like it, so if it's a knockoff, I haven't come across the model.

Very fitting name!
post #32 of 32
Thread Starter 
I think you're absolutely right about Rogue, MB - I don't think there's any birch tar or leather either in Rogue. For the longest time, I'd suspected there was a walloping dose of leather in this, but now I realize that what I've been smelling all this time is not leather, but LAUREL (i.e., bay leaf). I've come to realize that laurel, when it's blended with patchouli and oakmoss, tends to give fragrances a rich, leathery smell. I've since bought a bottle of laurel essential oil, and I realized that laurel is the culprit in Rogue.
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