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Oscar de la Renta Pour Lui

post #1 of 65
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AromiE already posted an earlier thread on the old formulation of Oscar de la Renta Pour Lui, and this thread is dedicated to the current version of this baby.

When I smelled this the first time several months ago, I didn't like it at all. But since that time, I've smelled the vintage version again, loved it, and that helped me recently revisit and appreciate the new formulation of this juice. I've changed my mind about this, and I've accordingly edited my review of it. This new version is a bit drier, cleaner and a tad less complex than the original, but it's still a damn good powerhouse scent. It still smells like the big green, leathery monster that it is, and while it's not quite as intense as it used to be, it still captures the same overall feel and attitude of the original, in my opinion. I just sampled this again a couple of weeks ago.

Any of you like this new formulation?
post #2 of 65
shamu1 how about sillage & longetivy? I so scare coz confirm by seller my Oscar is reformulation. Although this reformulation got some negative review on quality, strenght & intense than vintage but i keep to try. I haven't received yet and cannot wait to share it
post #3 of 65
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I only sprayed some on my hand, thus breaking my own rule, and I like it, but I can't judge it in terms of longevity or sillage. I'll need a full day's wearing.

SillageMonger has a bottle of this one, and I believe perfaddict wrote a review on the new formulation, so they would be better people to answer your question.

Anyone out there able to answer this?
post #4 of 65
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Keep in mind too, ruffin, that there are some members that get all bent out of shape at the mere mention of a reformulation of anything, even without even smelling the reformulation. I think this is paranoia and a bit ridiculous. No one likes the idea of a favorite scent being reformulated, but personally, as long as the new version still captures the key essence of the original, I'm a happy guy.
post #5 of 65
Ruffin, i have used both, and quite a few bottles of the original at that. The difference is not important. I enjoy the new version quite a lot.
post #6 of 65
Good to hear that shamu1 & perfaddict...This makes me so interested
post #7 of 65
Ruffin......I plan to sample the vintage Oscar de la Renta Pour Lui later this month, but I can hardly imagine that it is that much superior to the reformulation. In my opinion, OdlR Pour Lui is a must have for every powerhouse enthusiast, and one look at your wardrobe would indicate to me that you would most likely love it. This would definitely be a "safe" blind buy for you, ruffin. It is in the top 5 fragrances in my wardrobe, and it is a fragrance that I hope I will always have access to. I suggest that you read through all the posts in this wonderful discussion of the vintage versus the reformulated Oscar de la Renta Pour Lui -----> http://www.basenotes.net/threads/232...t=#post1694658
post #8 of 65
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I think you're right, SM, though I had to take a pretty roundabout way of getting to eventually appreciate the new version of this. I had to go back, smell the original, appreciate that, and then re-smell the new version before I could appreciate it. It is a very good scent, and I'm sort of embarrassed about the review I initially wrote about it. All I can say is that opinions do change, as mine did, and I changed my review accordingly.

There are too many people who incessantly whine about every reformulation that comes around the block, often without even smelling it first. They talk about every reformulation as if the apocalypse has arrived. No, the new Oscar isn't quite as dirty or heavy as the original, but the difference isn't that significant. It's still a pretty fearsome scent.
post #9 of 65
I just try the reformulation version after received it....Oscar opening with dry, dirty spices, sharp of citrus and star anise give hint of sweet structure. First snift like a older scent but I like the sharp and strong opening which remind me a border between Gentleman & Sung. I can detect cinamon, vetiver and patchouli. This juice not weak like i thinking previously. Drydown bold, completed with galant of leather bombing oakmoss. Like SM mention this is will be in my top 5 powerhouse...although i blind buy, the juice give me clarify & definition in sillage, longevity & attidue 10/10...

Wish to wear in night time..
post #10 of 65
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Yep. Even the new juice has plenty of swagger, and is still nice and strong. What I like about this scent is how green and leathery it smells, with the patchouli giving it some dirty grittiness.
post #11 of 65
Now I'm sure even blind buy any powerhouse is worth and no loss....I don't care about reformulation becasue they still produce amazing juice...
post #12 of 65
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Now that's the attitude!
post #13 of 65
A treasured reviewer friend here has warned me against ODLRPL containing loads of licorice, and she has categorised the scent as very feminine. Shamu: What do you think in this respect, if I may?
post #14 of 65
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Licorice???? I don't smell any licorice at all in this. ODRP is ultra-dense and smells like it contains everything including the kitchen sink in it, but I don't get any licorice at all. And your friend thinks it smells feminine? Wow. I know everyone can have a different perception about a fragrance, and I'm certainly not trying to question your friend's reviewing talents, but are you sure we're all talking about the same scent here? I don't think you need to worry about anyone thinking you smell feminine while wearing Oscar de la Renta Pour Lui.
post #15 of 65
I wear this one all the time and there isn't even a trace of anise/licorice in the mix (and I sniff it incessantly). I must also add that this is not unisex or even remotely femine. Oscar de la Renta Pour Lui has a set of balls on it like a 700 kilo bull moose. This is as ultra-masculine a fragrance as Quorum....and to my nose, maybe even more masculine (in my opinion).
post #16 of 65
Damm...OdlR like the dark age of evil comes to regional prosperity will snatch any prey without mercy.The powerfull of nailbomb with a millions armada of cinamon, vetiver and patchouli, leather & oakmoss that appears as a masculine powerhouse. Attitude is harsh, rude, stubborn & dirty. Agree that OdlR is for real confident men.

post #17 of 65
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ODPL smells to me like a scent that is trying to be sophisticated, due to its density and complexity, but ends up being a brute of a Powerhouse. Though I don't consider it to be crass, some people think it is. I love it.
post #18 of 65
Thank you very much.
Regards.
post #19 of 65
Now that I had compared the vintage and the reformulated versions, I can say I like the fragrance very much. On my skin, however, it behaves like a skin scent and has no lasting power whatsoever.
post #20 of 65
I've worn this three times in the past 2 weeks, and what a winner it is! Compliments from every female within sniffing distance. This one, Oscar de la Renta Pour Lui will always be one of the finest powerhouses I own. Superb!
post #21 of 65
I tried Pour Lui. It's really nice stuff. It sort of takes the leathery bits of Quorum and combines them with the oakmoss and patchouli of Giorgio for men. I would say that anyone who enjoys either of these would like this. I have the current formulation and it definately has powerhouse strength.

I've seen it described as citrusy but I get zero citrus from this. I've also seen it described as floral like VC&A. There seems to be a floral element but it's very faint and the leather/mossy/patchouli feel dominates.

Good, masculine, potent juice.
post #22 of 65
I remember reading about Mr. De la Renta saying in an interview He actually wears this Almost exclusively (besides some Great Spanish Classics, We know Who they are) I forgot which Magazine it was, Must of been one of My Girlfriend Helen's old Mags. Not that I really ever read that sort of stuff
post #23 of 65
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He wears this almost exclusively?? I'm surprised he has any sense of smell left, wearing that every day. Kind of like picking Lapidus PH as your signature fragrance.
post #24 of 65
Maybe I'm nuts, but I really believe that I could wear OdlR Pour Lui every single day as my signature scent (but NOT Lapidus pour Homme - every third day, perhaps). The last few 9 hour flights back from Germany (today included) have featured OdlR pour Lui as my SotD, and what a lovely, masculine fragrance this is indeed! I get more than a few compliments from my female coworkers as to what a "wonderful, masculine smell [you're wearing]." I really enjoy smelling it on myself also. I know the passengers can smell it (tactfully applied - one shot to the chest, one shot to the top of my bald head, and one shot to each backhand then dabbed to each side of my neck), and it's a pleasant enough scent that I think it a positive all the way around. The reformulation is to me as good as the original, and in tems of longevity, I think it's better. Anyway, OdlR pour Lui is one of the half dozen or so fragrances that I hope I am NEVER without. It is truly superb!!!
post #25 of 65
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I'm going to have to get a bottle of the new formulation of this because I think it's a bit better constructed than the old version and better balanced. It's not quite as rugged as the original, but I don't care. It's a great frag, still.

I'll keep my two splash bottles of the original for days when I want something ultra-brash. I'll get the new version when I want something more balanced, but still powerful nonetheless. The new version still has that dark green, ass kickin oakmoss note in it, which I think is the real core of this scent.
post #26 of 65
Wow Sham, You have 2 splash Bottles of this. Old School. That's Great
post #27 of 65
Hey guys, I got some new frags yesterday (OMS, Oscar, Giorgio), and while I chose One Man Show as my edt yesterday, I couldn't resist to use a bit of Oscar after shower before I went to bed. I'm awful at discerning different notes, but is it possible that Oscar shares some notes with Azzaro in the drydown? A bit like Azzaro's crude little brother that was out partying all night, unshaven and the shirt partially unbuttoned.
post #28 of 65
I've bravely pushed forward with wearing powerhouses to work but tonight I'm upping the ante. Powerhouse on the first date! My man Oscar de la Renta is flying copilot. This stuff is outstanding though. I can't imagine it not well received.

This stuff has strange potency by the way. When I smell my wrist it's hardly detectable but I pretty much constantly detect a swirling sillage breeze around me. Weird.
post #29 of 65
Oldspice.....all of the female compliments I receive when wearing Oscar de la Renta pour Lui have been from gals 40+. I should think that your date, whatever her age - if she has good taste - she should recognize that you are a classy guy sporting this excellent juice. OdlR pour Lui is a beautiful fragrance. If she complains and asks that you wear an aquatic next date - my advice - drop her like a hot rock! The 40+ chicks are the best anyway. I learned that in my early 30s.
post #30 of 65
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"If she complains and asks that you wear an aquatic next date - my advice - drop her like a hot rock!" LOL!!!
post #31 of 65
At the end of the night she leaned in close and said "ohh you smell good". She's my age, 31. Might be a keeper!
post #32 of 65
Hey oldspice, She's a keeper. I'm also lucky, My Girl's in Her Late 20's and She loves all my nasty Powerhouse Frags. Hey Sillage, I'm rolling and Dying on the floor here. Drop Her like a Hot rock, Oh Man, Great.
post #33 of 65
My last girlfriend passionately hated everything I ever wore except for platinum egoiste which she just "tolerated". She'd say I smelled like an old lady no matter what I was wearing, even M7! That was the last straw, it was either her or M7 so she had to pack her bags.
post #34 of 65
If everything else lines up (and there is a hell of a lot that has to), Oldspice, it sounds like she might be a keeper alright! Don't base the whole package (as I'm sure you won't) on her like or dislike of the powerhouses. I would rather go back in the time machine and do a tour in Vietnam than re-live my divorce. Anyway........OdlRpourLui really is a fabulous fragrance. I get a ton of "you smell great" comments from my female coworkers when I wear this one, however, just lately I have also gotten a few (for the first time) "that's not the best I've smelled on you......does it have patchouli in it?" remarks. More positives than negatives, but the patchouli comments I have found to be interesting (interesting in that more than one non-Basenotes person even knows what 'patchouli' smells like). What do you guys make of this?
post #35 of 65
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Sillage, I'm not trying to be funny, but I think what they're saying is that Oscar smells to them like a hippie fragrance! Most people who don't care about perfume associate patchouli with hippies.

It's so damn aromatic and spicy, and I consider it to be a patchouli-powered bomb. I'm not surprised you're getting those questions. To me, the patchouli and oakmoss are the strongest notes in ODL.
post #36 of 65
I met up with two friends the other night and both said right away that I smelled good. This was the first compliment on a frag I've got from one of them. By the end of the night the other one said she thought I smelled "weird", I guess because she's unaccustomed to old school frags.

I agree with Shamu that most people who are turned off by patchouli prob have a bad hippie association. The only scent I associate with hippies is that of nag champa incense.
post #37 of 65
Me too oldspice, thus Sham is correct in some People's perception with Patchouli. Though We do know this is not the case. Keep wearing it Bro
post #38 of 65
wonderful juice
post #39 of 65
I got this last night as a belated fathers' day present. Wow I like it! My initial impression is that it has a similarity with Giorgio for Men, but on me is far more subdued. I have already sprayed 6 sprays and it is only 7:50 AM.
post #40 of 65
I found some Pour Lui last night and bought it blind based solely on its reputation here. I tested in on my wrists and arms last night. The initial burst was very flowery to me, with an overload of smokey leather. After the first few minutes it settled into a smooth, rounded variation of Quorum. Not to denigrate either masterpiece, I sense Pour Lui as being the tuxedo version or more formal variation of Quorum. I am considering returning to buy a back-up bottle today.

By the way, Quorum is for me the only fragrance that consistently draws compliments, and those from women over 40 or so. I can see Pour Lui being a real attention-getter.
post #41 of 65
P.S. I bought Pour Lui hoping it would be a good winter choice, and for my birthday month (September). It was an EXCELLENT purchase on both counts!
post #42 of 65
How does this one smell like? Does it smell like something I might be accustomed with?
post #43 of 65
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It smells awesome, but it sure as hell isn't a barbershop scent. You didn't post your wardrobe, so I can't tell what it is you've worn before, other than Brut and Jade East.

It is very heavy, spicy and strong. It's a total 80s macho frag. Think dark green smell, sharp spices, heavy leather, tons of patchouli and oakmoss. It's as transparent as a brick. I can't really think of another scent it's similar to. Anyone have any thoughts?
post #44 of 65
If Aramis and Xeryus had a love child...
post #45 of 65
It's very mysterious, that's for sure. Also unlike any other fragrance I know, save some slight associations at different stages with Paco Rabanne PH and Van Cleef & Arples.
post #46 of 65
Received this 90 ml frag today as I could have it dirt cheap as a tester bottle without cap (reformulation).
My last buy till Feb/March 2012

Smells really really good (when sprayed from 20 cm distance! and lightly) and it resembles a little from Aramis, Versace L'Homme, Tsar, Paco ph and others. Can't get my finger on the smell exactly yet as it looks like a really well blended frag!
Thought I would re-sell it when I would not like it but this one is definitely a keeper for me!

Thumbs up!
post #47 of 65
It's a great fragrance for sure and having had a bottle of the original reformulation (which I sold) I personally think that the reformulation is much better. The older version was possibly slightly stronger but didn't smell as smooth or well blended (to my nose anyway) and developed a strange 'off smell' after a few hours. It could have just been my bottle but, whatever, the current one is awesome - one of the best out there I reckon!
post #48 of 65
Yes, I agree

I have a vintage mini bottle of Oscar pour lui (see my pics) and that has the same problem! Rich, potent and fresh in the first hour and then as u call it an "off smell"............But it could also be an old smell as that bottle is from the early 80's. I have the same with some other vintage mini bottles............great the first hour and then they have a kind of weird old smell or just vanish almost completely (Aramis, Lagerfeld, Pino, 3d homme) My bottles of Eau Sauvage and Equipage were not wearable at all (30+ years old).
post #49 of 65
Tried Oscar some more and I had always in my mind a review which said it had a cola smell.
I agree in a way, it has a kind of cola smell to it, but that smell is good and original!
Also after two/three hours it indeed has a kind of liqourice smell (I know as here in Holland liquorice is almost as normal as bread, in hundreds of variations and tasts/smells). For me that phase is less of all phases, though I like liqourice in itself. That liquorice smell disappears 1 hour later and the drydown is for me still spicy with a musky undertone that last for a long while though close to the skin. First two/three hours are definitely the best! I don't agree on applying this one only lightly..............you can spray quite liberally, only not from too close a distance or twice at same place! For me smell does not become cloying neither does it for my g'friend who tested it on me by smelling in all sprayed variations.
post #50 of 65
Wow! That's weird - I'd always got a strange 'coca-cola' vibe from Oscar too! I once searched for reviews confirming this but found nothing - I'll have to have another look. It's not a straightforward 'smells like cola' thing for me - more a vibe / 'reminiscent of' type of thing - hard to explain but at least I know I'm not the only one who's picked up on it! I get a similar thing with Aramis Havana - like a 'rum & coke' vibe....!
post #51 of 65
Yeah, I would say it's not the real Coke (Coca Cola) smell but a generic cola like smell, which in De La Renta is not bad as it's mixed with spices etc. which makes it highly original!


It is a review by "manicboy" here on BN, two reviews below Shamu1's one, lol (see copy below)

Be advised that Pour Lui has been reformulated. The new version pales in comparison to the older-vintage version so much so that the new version is unwearable. The opening is pure watered-down cola. Even the drydown is thin and feeble. Yes, it’s true - Lui’s manhood has been severed.

Now let’s talk about the vintage version which still can be scored for a good price if you know where to look. The opening is quite unique in that it smells great but you are unsure as to what you are smelling. Aldehydes? I believe so. There’s a pleasant green-pine note that pops up from time to time. The midnotes of carnation and patchouli shift this beast into overdrive as the sillage gets stronger and bolder. One also gets a faint breeze of cinnamon and incense. Ends with a big oak mossy finish that would put most 70’s scents to shame. This is truly a great scent and deserves better treatment from Oscar. Shame.


3rd April, 2009. (Last Edited: 29th May, 2009.)
post #52 of 65
Thanks Slayerized - I missed that one! Don't agree with much of it though! I've tested both literally side by side and there's little difference in power as far as I'm concerned. I agree that the base of the new one is not as rich/heavy as the original but it's not radically different. It's the same with new vs vintage Havana - the basenotes are a little denser but the sillage / projection and overall smell are still there.
post #53 of 65
Next time CTRL F on "cola".....................can't miss then, lol!

I don't know the vintage as my mini bottle smells "completely" different as it's probably too old.
For me ODLRPL is a frag which is best to reapply after 5 hrs as the first 3 hrs are definitely the best!
post #54 of 65
I snagged a a vintage 2 oz. splash cheap recently & I agree with Derbyman: no real difference between it & the new version. It does not warrant a special search as they both are great.
post #55 of 65
I had not tried Oscar de la Renta pour lui until 2 weeks ago, I bought a 1.7 oz. bottle in ebay for a great prize. The juice is amazing, it went straight to my top ten list, I liked it so much I bought 3 more bottles, this shit is THAT good. Now my problem is: which one of the top ten will it displace? Tough choice LOL.
post #56 of 65
Newest formula?
post #57 of 65
I don't mean to be insulting, but how can this be that you, PerfumeCollector, just smelled Oscar de la Renta POUR Lui (not PER!) for the first time in your life?????

This is one of the classic powerhouse male fragrances made in the last 32 years since its release!!!!

For the record, I have written about this fragrance and most definitely prefer Vintage formulation to the Current Reformulation. The current is good, very good actually - but a bit screechy in the top and the notes are not as well defined. Though, it still offers a very nice heart & drydown.

The Vintage juice is a classic and a near-masterpiece! It is stunning! The top notes are much smoother and go on with an incredible, sophisticated yet masculine vibe. This is the epitome of a "refined powerhouse".

I have both and find myself wearing Vintage far more often than Current formulation - and I do not layer as I find that some of the beauty is lost when the sharper and more aggressive Current juice hits your skin.

For those that want a good, solid bottle and don't care to seek out Vintage...Current is fine. For those that truly know the difference - there is no substituting Vintage Oscar Pour Lui! It is incredible!
post #58 of 65
The first bottle looks like this:




with Oscar de la Renta exactly at half hight of the bottle and inside an oval shaped frame, while the three I bought later look like this:


with POUR LUI at half heigh and Oscar de la Renta at the bottom and not framed by an oval.

Can you tell which is vintage and which is reformulated?

To me they smell identical.

And excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Eric for not trying this jewel before, but I started collecting about 4 years ago, and I've trying about 4/5 different perfumes a week (I have over 700 in my collection by now) so I am bound to miss some of them, with more than 30000 perfumes in the market, it will take me about 600 years to try them all, and I am only human, so please understand.
post #59 of 65
Hi PerfumeCollector -

Like I said, I don't mean to be insulting - but with a huge collection of fragrances that you have...and you just tried this was rather hard-to-believe. I will say this - "Better late, than never." And..."Good things come, to those that wait." And, finally, "Patience is a virtue..."

All 3 sayings apply to you in this case :-) ! This is Oscar de la Renta's personal signature scent, by the way. Glad you found it!

The first bottle you got was Vintage formulation, indeed. The last 3 are the Current formulation (and your picture above is that of a 90ml/3oz bottle), but the layout is identical on the 50ml/1.6oz tall and narrow bottles. Take your time to identify the two formulations as there are noticeable differences in how they present themselves. The ingredients are not the same due to IFRA regulation and the amount of Oakmoss that can be put into current fragrances - .1% only at this point in modern perfumery. The top notes of Vintage are much more discernable and the heart and drydowns rather similar, but the missing Oakmoss is key.

Most people on here agree that they are both good - as do I. I have posted reviews and discussed this scent in forums. As I don't believe in "Top 5/10/25" lists as one could interchange lists for day/night, seasons & weather, work/formal/casual/intimate (occasion), etc. - it is simply classic and, as I said, the Vintage formulation a near-masterpiece, in my humble opinion.

Ironically, the reformulation is one of the few fragrances out there that I accept as a very good scent and solid attempt by a perfumer to replicate the classic bottling. Vintage Oscar Pour Lui, however, is superior.

Try to get some Vintage After Shave Lotion - it is fantastic and very suave. Wonderful scent that layers perfectly with the Vintage EdT and it has an amazing soft feel on your skin with its moisturizing compounds/ingredients.

Enjoy...and, make sure you try Oscar de la Renta's only other wonderful bottle of male fragrance, Oscar for Men (in the yellow box). That is a very unique creation and has never been reformulated. It was introduced in 1999. I have also written extensively on that.

Cheers,

ericrico
post #60 of 65
4 Years and already over 700 perfumes? My oh my! You just found yourself a hobby 4 years ago, didn't you?
Mr. Renta made two mens fragrances! The other one is Oscar for men which I own as well and is also a gem. Very original, fresh and spicy!

One below is current juice, above is vintage.
I own the current as well and love it!

Apologies not accepted, u should have tried this earlier! I am sorry! (JK)
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