I'm testing today Milano Caffèe No 4. I see it as an independent scent to No 3 instead of an interation of the idea. They really behave different on my skin. While both are not intense on me, No 4 is more quiet, sometimes i have to search for it to notice it's still on my skin. The boozy effect, saddly, is gone, so i don't get any chocolate or coffee licqueur on it. Instead, the roasted coffee aroma is more noticeable, but not intense. It's detectable at the opening, with something that intrigues me and produces a kind of baby soap aura on my skin. I wonder if there is some neroli on the formula, maybe in small amount, because it's an effect that stays closer to skin. The base doesn't have the amber impression, it's more woody, the vetiver is very noticeable to me. But it seems more linear too. This version seems more safe, elegant but it doesn't leave you space for surprises. While i like the roasted coffee opening, i miss the spices, the licquer effect and in my opinion the base of the original one would work better maybe than the vetiver one, that seems more commonplace to me.