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    Default Re: what the heck is Iso E Super

    Timbersilk has been released in the fall, I got my sample, then bought a kilo.


    Sorry, no, I don't know what frags use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smcphaed View Post
    I ordered 80ml of ISO E Super ($10.50) from perfumersapprentice.com. I bought 95% grain alcohol to use as a base (about $7.00/200ml, where I live.) Using a small perfume spray bottle, I created a solution I'd estimate at about 15% E Super.

    Wearing it alone, it smells like a very light cedar scent. I don't sense much sillage, and I didn't get any comments at work. It does, however, seem to have reasonable longevity, but stays close to the skin.

    Using it in layering is much more interesting. I put a drop of Lavender essential oil (from l'Occitane) on one wrist; another drop on the other wrist, but with a single over spray of the Super E solution.

    The lavender/E Super combination is much more than just lavender+light cedar. The Super E seems to open it up, and the scent lasted much longer than the lavender alone.

    So: is Super E a pheromone that's going to make you irresistible? No. Is it the "silver bullet" for which you've been searching all these years? No.

    Is it something really interesting, and inexpensive, that you can use in combination with other scents? Yes.

    That's my take on it, anyway. And there's no reason to pay over a hundred bucks for Molecule 1 when you can roll your own.
    I agree, it stays close to the skin.
    I love this stuff. It reminds me of something pleasant but I can't quite put my finger on it at the moment. Perhaps the remnants of a classy, very smooth, woody cologne on clothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkiler View Post
    Timbersilk has been released in the fall, I got my sample, then bought a kilo.


    Sorry, no, I don't know what frags use it.
    Just got some. Lovely stuff.

    I made a very simple Timbersilk/Ambroxan/Romandolide/Hedione blend and it's light and subtle and airy. Looking forward to refining it a little.

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    Hi,
    Where can I get some Timbersilk?
    TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberz View Post
    Hi,
    Where can I get some Timbersilk?
    TIA

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    Default Re: what the heck is Iso E Super

    Hi Paul,
    I meant a supplier.

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    i have bought iso e super and dillute with pure ethnol 25% ratio (i think 20% is enough or 100 ml)
    YES....
    this is realy somthing els....
    fells nothing...........
    buts its all over you........
    you cannot put it into the words
    just get it and see yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberz View Post
    Hi Paul,
    I meant a supplier.
    Hekserij.nl sells it since april.

    Your'e welcome to visit my formulation blog, with a dozen of perfume formulations and accords to share!

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    Default Re: what the heck is Iso E Super

    huh? i've bought this stuff there some years ago.

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    Hi Gido, my post refers to Timbersilk, not to the original Iso E Super thread.
    Paul started to refer to Timbersilk as an upgraded Iso E
    Timbersilk was not available to me by Hekserij the past three years and they started selling it some two months ago, as far as i'm informed...

    Your'e welcome to visit my formulation blog, with a dozen of perfume formulations and accords to share!

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    Default Re: what the heck is Iso E Super

    oops, sorry, my bad. must do some research on timbersilk, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gido View Post
    . . . do some research on timbersilk, then.
    Timbersilk is essentially a development in the sequence Isocyclemone E --> Iso E Super --> Timbersilk

    Isocyclemone E is a mixture of four isomers. Where IES is richer in the gamma isomer, than Isocyclemone E, Timbersilk is almost the pure gamma isomer as I understand it.

    The difference is quite obvious when you smell them together though and I'm quite impressed with it. BTW it's made by IFF (the same who make Iso E Super) and, so far as I know, not by Symrise. Also although De Hekserij have it on their Dutch website it isn't yet on their International List - I dare say they would sell some on request though.

    I hear IFF are promoting Timbersilk and Nectarate a the BSP Symposium next week so I'll check my information with them while I'm there and update this if there is anything to add.

    I'm probably going to be buying a fair amount of it I think, by which I mean 1-5Kg as I think it's going to be really useful in higher end work to replace IES.
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    Default Re: what the heck is Iso E Super

    Numberz, It appears that I never answered you in this matter, sorry,
    But I got mine from John D. Walsh Co.
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    thank you, chris. that's interesting. so it's really a finer version of iso e super, the same but better?

    i'm glad they resisted to calling it iso e super-duper! ;)

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    Hello All,
    Just a quick FYI, Timbersilk is offered now through Perfumer Supply House (www.perfumersupplyhouse.com).
    Have a wonderful day!
    Christine

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