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    Default Ambrette seed products, price variation

    There seems to be quite a bit of variation in the price of Ambrette Seed oil and absolutes.

    CO2 extracted Ambrette Seed oil for $68/ounce:
    http://www.edenbotanicals.com/essentials1.html#ambrette

    Distilled Ambrette Seed oil for $331/ounce:
    http://www.sunrosearomatics.com/eodesc/ambrette.html

    Ambrette Seed Absolute for $432/ounce:
    http://www.wellnaturally.com/essenti...eseed_oil.html
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    I was once ordering ambrette seed from White Lotus Aromatics but find that it has no aroma, at least none that I can detect. Has anyone tried it? Or am I anosmic? (Unfortunately, they're also very unpleasant people to work with.)

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    I'm sorry that your experience with White Lotus has been less than what you'd like, My experience has never been anything but great.

    My Ambrette on the shelf came from this seller:
    http://stores.ebay.com/Sleeping-Dragons-Company

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Peterson View Post
    I was once ordering ambrette seed from White Lotus Aromatics but find that it has no aroma, at least none that I can detect. Has anyone tried it? Or am I anosmic? (Unfortunately, they're also very unpleasant people to work with.)
    My goodness, my experience has been quite the opposite.

    Is it simply that they did not bend on their $100 minimum order policy?

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    White Lotus Aromatics also sells an ambrette seed essential oil, but it has no aroma and it isn't cheap. They are also extremely unpleasant to work with.

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    Perhaps a third post saying what kind of people you say they are will manage to shout over Paul and me having opposite findings. If so go for it, but as for me I don't find a need for repetition.

    Sometimes unpleasantness brings apparent unpleasantness. Some might think it not so pleasant to repetitively impugn widely-respected vendors. Personal opinion, obviously yours varies. But I would guess everyone already got your point the first time around.
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    Oh no. The order was over $300. I mistakenly thought that I had never received some essential oils I had ordered. I emailed them three times to try to clear up the situation. When I didn't hear from them, I contested the charge with the credit card company. When White Lotus finally got back to me and made clear what had happened, I immediately called the credit card company to stop my contesting the order. The have now "black listed" me (they won't sell to me anymore) for a simple and innocent mistake that I set about clearing up as expeditiously as possible. This was extremely hostile and upsetting. I of course wouldn't buy anything from them again, but they've made it easy since they won't sell to me anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Peterson View Post
    White Lotus Aromatics also sells an ambrette seed essential oil, but it has no aroma and it isn't cheap. They are also extremely unpleasant to work with.


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    James, I have found the people at WLA to be nothing other than a total pleasure to work with. Chris always gets back to me immediately, if not sooner, with answers to any questions that I have about their products, or, recommendations that I ask for. Maybe you would desire to go back and see exactly how it is that you stated your comments to them about what you perceived as being their error, but, as you describe, turned out to be nothing other than your own.

    If you wrote to them with an antagonistic attitude about the error that "they" made, well, you know, you receive in turn what it is that you give....

    As to the comments in the other thread about them diluting things in Ethanol, I think their site offerings make it clear which items are diluted in ethanol. It is possible I may have missed something, I have not read the blog mentioned (yet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcampen View Post
    There seems to be quite a bit of variation in the price of Ambrette Seed oil and absolutes.

    CO2 extracted Ambrette Seed oil for $68/ounce:
    http://www.edenbotanicals.com/essentials1.html#ambrette

    Distilled Ambrette Seed oil for $331/ounce:
    http://www.sunrosearomatics.com/eodesc/ambrette.html

    Ambrette Seed Absolute for $432/ounce:
    http://www.wellnaturally.com/essenti...eseed_oil.html

    You can find top grade and reasonably priced ambrette seed and other absolsute oils here: http://etsy.me/2j4R3Uq

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    Dear Damselbibi,
    You're so kind to have sent the list of suppliers. Their high prices reassure me that I'd be getting the real thing. Faulty reasoning I know, but still.
    What's your experience with ambrette seed absolute? I've never smelled it and have always gone for the essential oil. Of course its being more dear makes me think it's better. Is it? Or is the process simply more expensive and preferences subjective? I hope not too many questions.
    Again, thank you jp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Peterson View Post
    Their high prices reassure me that I'd be getting the real thing.
    FWIW, this is not the best rationale on which to rely when ordering materials. There are plenty of overpriced poor materials available on the market, and though not always the case, there are often good deals on high-quality finds. Think about how much crappy overpriced perfume exists on the market. I realize ambrette is a de facto expensive good, but while quality can command high price, high price doesn't necessarily denote exceptional, or even "real"/unadulterated stuff.
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    The Eden Ambrette Seed CO2 — the least-expensive option of the three — is gorgeous. Dilute to at least 50% upon receipt to help prevent oxidation, cold filter the lipids, and enjoy. The odor quality is truly fine, musky, effusive, and giving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by islearom View Post
    James, I have found the people at WLA to be nothing other than a total pleasure to work with. Chris always gets back to me immediately, if not sooner, with answers to any questions that I have about their products, or, recommendations that I ask for. Maybe you would desire to go back and see exactly how it is that you stated your comments to them about what you perceived as being their error, but, as you describe, turned out to be nothing other than your own.

    If you wrote to them with an antagonistic attitude about the error that "they" made, well, you know, you receive in turn what it is that you give....

    As to the comments in the other thread about them diluting things in Ethanol, I think their site offerings make it clear which items are diluted in ethanol. It is possible I may have missed something, I have not read the blog mentioned (yet).
    I'm not pointing a finger at James but I do agree that Chris at White Lotus has always been a pleasure to work with and I get the vast majority of my natural products from them including some things that are stunning in their uniqueness and quality.

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    Only chiming in here to mention that in addition to being intrigued to find this thread to have risen from the grave three years later, that the WLA Ambrette Absolute, offered after the EO that I made reference to in a related topic thread, is now offered by WLA, and priced reasonably at $250. an ounce. I have found it to be a pleasant material.

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