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    Default Why do we wear less than *5 star frags?

    Assuming we're mortal and time is limited . . .

    WHY THE HELL DO WE WEAR ANYTHING LESS THAN A 5 STAR FRAG?

    ( Granting, of course *that *"5 star ratings" *are completely subjective. *Someone, somewhere probably worships Acqua Velva )

    I have a few theories and I'd like your feedback:

    1. We hate our jobs. * Why wear a 5 star frag to a 1 star orifice--er, *office?

    2. Indecision. *Is Havana a 5 or a 4? Or a 4.5?

    3. Impulse buying. *We could have ordered a decant, *but nooooo, *we had to have the full bottle NOW! **And now we're stuck with it.

    4. Some 3-4 star ones are an absolute hoot, *eg; Quasar.

    5. Some 3-4 star ones are magical in certain weather, eg; Jacomo de Jacomo outdoors on *rainy days.

    6. Sloth. ** We'll blow our $ on readily avalable junk and then bewail the fact that *we can't find Nicole Miller for Men, *Antaeus, *Patou Prive, *Havana, *or other dicontinued gems.

    7. WE'RE SO FREAKING ADDICTED WE ACTUALLY BELIEVE *WE ARE "COLLECTORS"

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    # 7 *is undoubtedly true for some, but not for me, *I don't collect frags, I wear them, and there's plenty of 5 star ones to 'fit my mood.'

    What do you think? *I've come to the conclusion that I do NOT have too many frags, *but I sure as hell have bought too many that I don't really like all that much. *

    So, I repeat, given that we're mortal, time is limited and life is precious

    WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING WEARING ANYTHING LESS THAN (what we consider) A 5 STAR FRAG?

    (sigh)

    thx in advance, it's rather puzzling . . .

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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than  5 star frags?

    For the same reason we don't wear haute couture for the morning run or to the office or for taking out the garbage, I suppose. :
    "Wovon man nicht lesen kann, darüber muss man schreiben."

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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than  5 star frags?

    Because a frag that smells like 2 stars today may be 5 stars tomorrow. As simple as that.

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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than *5 star frags?

    Well, for starters you listed a number of good reasons. I'll add some.

    -Opinions change. What is one day a 5 star is a 3 star the next day.
    -We have to test out fragrances in the first place that could be anywhere from 1-5 stars in order to hopefully find one of the elusive 5 star scents
    -5 star scents are usually mad pricey so one cannot always afford to own enough of them to create a solid rotation
    -I dunno about everyone else, but I'm pretty impulsive. I just grab what feels right whether it's 3 stars or 5 stars
    -People often feel compelled to give Kouros way too many "second: chances
    -The artistic nuances of a 5 star fragrance might not be fully appreciated when one is wildin' out up in da club
    -And last but not least, humans are simply moody little creatures who don't always make sense

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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than  5 star frags?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xen
    Because a frag that smells like 2 stars today may be 5 stars tomorrow. As simple as that.
    But does this mean you would only wear it on the day you consider it as a 5-star fragrance?

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    Every scent has its merits. Not every composition garners an extra star on every level I judge a fragrance on, but what means everything to me the most is how a certain accord or note just strikes the right feeling and makes the lightbulb go on in my head.

    The huge quantity (compared to the normal bloke's standards) in my collection is absolutely because of collective purposes, how one style of scent echoes the style of another, how one scent describes perfectly the mood that I'm in.

    Honestly, does one always feel that they're always in a 4-5 star element or moment? There's days when a scent will wear me if I'm not up to its grandeur.

    When I just want to disappear and create a "lack of presence" so to speak, I definitely wear Ungaro's Apparition Homme! ;D
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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than  5 star frags?

    Quote Originally Posted by apekrul
    [quote author=Xen link=1150176314/0#2 date=1150178932]Because a frag that smells like 2 stars today may be 5 stars tomorrow. As simple as that.
    But does this mean you would only wear it on the day you consider it as a 5-star fragrance?[/quote]
    If it matches the mood, occasion, weather etc, and I feel like wearing it, I would consider it as a 5 star fragrance for that day and wear it. So yes, it's sort of like what you said but not that "mechanical".

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    I welcome this completely new subject and thread! Splendid thoughts, Mario!

    (a) My first answer (I am just beginning to ponder now) would be similar to your No. 1, and Tigrushka's haute couture argument: I do feel respect for all the 5*-ones! Our bathroom cabinet is kind of a holy shrine. I want to protect the 'treasures' from spiritual wear and tear. Nipping at the holy grail in a rush, at work, in the garden? - No, I am afraid that could destroy the magic.

    (b) 3-4 star frags: these deserve indeed five stars in certain situations, like the office, in a certain climate of the year, or under certain mental conditions, to name the most important.

    (c) Museum aspect/sentimental reasons: : there are perfumes I would hardly ever wear, in spite of thinking highly of them (rated five, but do not make me happy). A few feminines belong there. I respect them, I enjoy smelling a drop or two, but not for wearing. Some masculine frags also - I want to maybe use them as reference, long after I have taken them out of the wardrobe . That is different from being a collection addict. I have more than 8 Guerlains, and appreciate that house. I do not need 9 & 10, but if they fall into my lap, I shall add them to 'be complete' - ok addict here!

    (d) Being an auction and 'sales' addict does not help.
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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than  5 star frags?

    I'm going with:


    6. Sloth. We'll blow our $ on readily avalable junk and then bewail the fact that we can't find Nicole Miller for Men, Antaeus, Patou Prive, Havana, or other dicontinued gems.

    Hell, I'm extremely lucky if I can find readily avalable junk in my area. I have to buy vertually everything blind. Recent blind purchases like Gucci Envy, Rive Gauche, Live Jazz, Azzoro Visit, and Angel Men seem exotic to me. I hate the midwest.


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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than *5 star frags?

    Some of my scents smell like 5 star frags, but I rate them as 4 stars because of subpar sillage, development, or other miscellaneous reasons. But they still smell good.

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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than *5 star frags?

    this is an interesting question, Id like to put forward an answer. lately I have actually been trying to get around to archiving my non 5 star bottles because really, I don't even wear them anymore at all since I've bought up alot of 5 stars I've always wanted. I think a reason that alot of us are still wearing our 3 stars is because we

    a) haven't found enough 5 stars to wear for the multitude of situations we put ourselves in
    b) feel bad about all the 80% full bottles of our pre enlightened collecting... and still continue to wear them
    c) wear the 3 stars for memories

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    I support the emotional/situational 5stars theory:
    Many frags, even not being 5 stars rated, in some emotional state or in some situation or in some climate become perfect. I believe it's almost impossible to find the scent perfect for any state, specially for me, having endless eagerness of change and new knowledge.
    Moreover taste changes through the years and thus rating of a scent could change according to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czesc
    this is an interesting question, Id like to put forward an answer. lately I have actually been trying to get around to archiving my non 5 star bottles because really, I don't even wear them anymore at all since I've bought up alot of 5 stars I've always wanted. I think a reason that alot of us are still wearing our 3 stars is because we

    a) haven't found enough 5 stars to wear for the multitude of situations we put ourselves in
    b) feel bad about all the 80% full bottles of our pre enlightened collecting... and still continue to wear them
    c) wear the 3 stars for memories
    Seriously, czesc, after your holier-than-thou posts, do you really want to consider having anything hanging around in your arsenal, despite those pre-enlightenment/3-star givings, wouldn't you have the resources to actually have Guerlain or Creed create one for you? Perhaps Clive Christian can use you as a frame of inspiration???

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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than  5 star frags?

    I think it's rationalization in part. If you've spent for something, you have to use it (even if rarely) otherwise you made a mistake. As long as you keep it in rotation, it's not a mistake.

    on a side note, I've seen two references in the past few days to Antaeus being discontinued. But just yesterday I checked the Chanel site and it is listed. Can someone give me a pointer here, I'm a bit confused. (and Antaeus is on my 'to be acquired' list, so I'm concerned, too)

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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than *5 star frags?

    For me, the following reasons:

    - ratings are somewhat arbitrary. Any fragrance I buy, I obviously quite like to begin with (I don't buy blind) so whilst I rate my wardrobe from 3-5, pretty much all of them are IMO good
    - thus, the difference between 3 and 5 is not great
    - some "5"s are ones that must be kept for special occasions
    - some move up and down the rating ladder with mood, season, getting to know them
    - some might not get 5 because of poor longevity, but might still be gorgeous frags

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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than *5 star frags?

    Mario- This is one of the best posts I have seen in a while. Once you realize what a true 5 star frag is, and Havana IS a 5 Star Frag, you want to find others at that level. It simply requires going through 200+ swaps/purchases to do so.

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    Why do I wear less than 5 star fragrances?

    For me the answer is simple, no matter how good it is, I'd get bored wearing Kiton all the time.

    So I save it for special occasions and make do with the three star ones like GIT and the MPG ones for more mundane occasions.
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    Different day... Different mood... Different choices!

    My reason is: I simply just LOVE VARIETY in my life

    ...and the truth is that at times you have to try, and in fact wear some of your not so hot picks in order to TRULY appreciate your HG status fragrances... But maybe that's just me

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    I wouldn`t never wear anything less than a 4 star fragrance. To me, wearing a 3 (not to mention less) star frag is murder.

    The line between 4 and 5 can be very thin, and I guess I need those a bit less exciting frag-days to feel something exceptional again.
    So, if 5 star fragrances are Kings and Queens, 4 star fragrances are Princes and Princesses.

    And you know, I`ve heard the two of the latter can be quite a sight for sore eyes, too.

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    Great topic! I just couldn't think of anything other than everything's relative in the frag world even our opinions on a certain frag today (wich might change over time). I also love variety , as Pm said.

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    I love this question. I was pondering this yesterday when I was picking out a scent to wear. I don't have a real great idea why. I believe this would be the same reason you don't eat your favorite foods everyday or only listen to the best songs on an album. Would it remain a 5 star if you used it everyday? I don't know if I would want to find out.
    Also, 5 star scents can also be specific (e.g. great in winter, summer, at the club).

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    I started out with an interest in fragrance, but no idea of what I actually liked. I bought quite a few bottles in the beginning that today I wish I hadn't bought. Now I think I understand my tastes better and make fewer mistakes in purchasing, but still I end up loosing interest in things that I liked at one time. I still occationally wear these for: variety, to use them up, or to just reevaluate them. I liked it enough to buy it at some point, right? Sometimes scents that get "downgraded" really just need a break and I eventually bring them back into rotation.

    I also have swapped 2-3 star frags (basically frags that I have lost interest in) for things I'm not sure I'll like, but I am willing to swap just to change things up. These new items often automatically get a 2-3 star rating and go immediately on the swap list. Even in these cases, I have never felt that I was worse off after the swap. At least I was rid of something I knew I didn't want and took a chance on something new.

    I think we rate scents on a scale rather than just like/don't like because there are shades of grey in how much you like something. Somethings are desirable, but not a favorite. As many have said, I'd get totally bored wearing only my 5 stars(I think I have 4-5 scents rated with 5 stars).

    As a final analogy - its like asking why bother with anyone except your very closest friends. Would you ALWAYS prefer to be with your best friends than any other acquaintance? I'm guessing not. I'd guess most people have a place in their life for a variety of types and levels of acquaintances and its not ALWAYS the right time or place for your best friend. Just my 2c

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    It is easy to reply to this question - at least for me:

    If we wear 5 star scents every day we would never have a "special" day.

    In fact I have been thinking about this question several times and I always come to this conclusion. Most days it is absolutely all right "just" to smell good - the 5 stars scents I save for special occations.

    Mic.

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    Wearing a scent is the only real way to get to know it in my opinion. A scent may be a two-star scent during the first wearing, but there is something that makes me intrigued, and I want to discover that more, so I wear it another time, and another. I have sometime wore scents that I really felt uncomfortable in (eg. Rive Gauche), thinking that I will still learn a lot from it. I have not made up my mind - not REALLY made up my mind - about any of my scents. I may start to think that one scent, which I initially loved, really is a bore (eg. Gaultier2), and another scent I will grow to love. One, two, three, four or five stars.? It's nothing constant.

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    Agitation reduces the ability to discern Stars....

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    in order for me to rate a fragrance 3/+ stars I must consider it to be worth wearing... I'm not sure if that answers your question.
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    My reasons are blind buys and loss of passion for a certain type of smell. I am currently fazing them out to only allow the best but that is taking a lot of time...

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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than *5 star frags?

    OK, I'm gonna take the response Tig's gave and put a Chicago spin on it........just for fun!!

    To answer the question as to "Why would we wear a sub-five-star rated scent......?"

    Listen!! 'Ya can't be eatin' Filet Mignon and Prime Rib every dang day!! If 'ya don't get tired of it first, you'd be broke as a joke before 'ya knew it!! Know whatahmean?? Someday's 'ya gotta just have a turkey sandwich and a Diet Dr. Pepper and be happy with it!! Then....that fat steak (or lobster or whatever) tastes mighty good!! It's all about the mood, too. Sometimes 'ya just want "nice" as opposed to "mind-blowing."

    Helps you keep everything in perspective, I think.

    Besides, just because you can drive 55 MPH on the freeway doesn't mean you can do it all the time!!


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    Default Re: Why do we wear less than  5 star frags?

    I almost forgot - Marlen started something similar a while ago - lots of responses:
    http://www.basenotes.net/community/Y...num=1147187491
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    Further to earlier...

    Life is full of distractions. Opportunities abound. For a Student, the prospect of arduous study is one choice among many. Passing Examinations with Laurel Leaves though, reveals the Study Option as the 5 Star choice.

    Stars are the places where our own shining Discrimination breaks through....

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